Guest guest Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 MSM >never< tasted badly to me. My wife hated it at first, but after she discovered the benefits, she woofed it down like candy and never complained. Now she says she likes the taste just fine. Bitter? Maybe some, but its the cold clean taste of healing that really gets it.. . and never having joint pain again makes it taste ever so wonderful. I love the stuff! Its kinda like when I took cod liver oil as a kid and got kinda addicted to it. Even now, 65 years later, I still like the taste of it. Too bad we over fished the cod and virtually killed off that industry in New England. Jim >My solution to te bad taste is usingf MSM tablets, which I chew before swallowing along with a mouthful of water with ascorbic acid. The tartness of vivamin C helps with the bitterness of the MSM. Alobar< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Interesting on the MSM I thought a while back on joint pain that MSM did not have any proven effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 As with many other supplements. the " researchers " give far too little to be of any use. I look at testimonials of people who used MSM to reverse crippling arthritis. http://www.bulkmsm.com/research/Coburn/james-coburn.html Alobar On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:22 AM, S <beaucerongirl101@...> wrote: > > > Interesting on the MSM I thought a while back on joint pain that MSM did not have any proven effects. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Alobar I have learned much from you thes past few years. So now may I can return something. Here is a much cheaper source of msm. mike http://www.jeffersequine.com/pro-msm/camid/EQU/cp/11585/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 That is a very good price. As my regular suppler is now out of stock, http://store.ourhealthcoop.com/MSM_p/msm.htm I may give the horse MSM a try. Thanks. Alobar On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 12:03 PM, michaelinde <michaelinde@...> wrote: > > Alobar > I have learned much from you thes past few years. So now may I can return something. Here is a much cheaper source of msm. > mike > > http://www.jeffersequine.com/pro-msm/camid/EQU/cp/11585/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I love the health coop!! I've been with them since Dr Jon started it, and now his daughter runs it. They seem to be very honest and helpful people, and prices are very good. Judy On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote: > > > That is a very good price. As my regular suppler is now out of stock, > http://store.ourhealthcoop.com/MSM_p/msm.htm > I may give the horse MSM a try. Thanks. > > Alobar > > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 12:03 PM, michaelinde <michaelinde@...> > wrote: > > > > Alobar > > I have learned much from you thes past few years. So now may I can return > something. Here is a much cheaper source of msm. > > mike > > > > http://www.jeffersequine.com/pro-msm/camid/EQU/cp/11585/ > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 here is another manufacture from the same site a little cheaper http://www.jeffersequine.com/msm-99.9%2337%3B-pure-powder/camid/EQU/cp/0027038/c\ n/235/ mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 The prices are indeed good but it is tragic animals have a better source and cheaper nutrition then we do mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 I am really new to MSM. I am really new to everything that gets talked about on this group. So here I go with another question. I am puzzled why and how this is an animal feed supplement. MSM tastes so vile that how in the world would anyone get an animal to eat it? I dowse mine with peppermint oil to mask the bitterness to get it down. But if any flakes stay in my mouth, Ugh. How does someone get this into an animal? ________________________________ From: michaelinde <michaelinde@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 9:26:48 PM Subject: Re: MSM here is another manufacture from the same site a little cheaper http://www.jeffersequine.com/msm-99.9%2337%3B-pure-powder/camid/EQU/cp/0027038/c\ n/235/ mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Not sure if was on this list or another health list, but some years ago someone posted about how much her dog really loved MSM. That startled me. Then I recalled that dogs sniff each other's butts and eat spoiled meat. No accounting for taste amongst the various animals on this planet. Alobar On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Lyn K <godisbest4me@...> wrote: > I am really new to MSM. I am really new to everything that gets talked about on > this group. So here I go with another question. I am puzzled why and how this is > an animal feed supplement. MSM tastes so vile that how in the world would anyone > get an animal to eat it? I dowse mine with peppermint oil to mask the bitterness > to get it down. But if any flakes stay in my mouth, Ugh. How does someone get > this into an animal? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Chuckle. Well, I don't know what to say about that one. But considering that the MSM site we were sent was for an MSM supplement for farm animals, that is what got me wondering. Personally, I'd think it more successful to give my animals coconut oil for their health. ________________________________ From: Alobar <Alobar@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 5:58:43 PM Subject: Re: Re: MSM Not sure if was on this list or another health list, but some years ago someone posted about how much her dog really loved MSM. That startled me. Then I recalled that dogs sniff each other's butts and eat spoiled meat. No accounting for taste amongst the various animals on this planet. Alobar On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Lyn K <godisbest4me@...> wrote: > I am really new to MSM. I am really new to everything that gets talked about on > this group. So here I go with another question. I am puzzled why and how this >is > an animal feed supplement. MSM tastes so vile that how in the world would >anyone > get an animal to eat it? I dowse mine with peppermint oil to mask the >bitterness > to get it down. But if any flakes stay in my mouth, Ugh. How does someone get > this into an animal? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Lyn, that has me puzzled, also. MSM is sooooo bitter, I have to force it down, but just take it in water. I can't imagine an animal willingly taking it at all!!! On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Lyn K <godisbest4me@...> wrote: > > > Chuckle. Well, I don't know what to say about that one. But considering > that > the MSM site we were sent was for an MSM supplement for farm animals, that > is > what got me wondering. > > Personally, I'd think it more successful to give my animals coconut oil for > > their health. > > ________________________________ > From: Alobar <Alobar@...> > Coconut Oil > Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 5:58:43 PM > Subject: Re: Re: MSM > > Not sure if was on this list or another health list, but some years > ago someone posted about how much her dog really loved MSM. That > startled me. Then I recalled that dogs sniff each other's butts and > eat spoiled meat. No accounting for taste amongst the various animals > on this planet. > > Alobar > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Lyn K <godisbest4me@...> wrote: > > I am really new to MSM. I am really new to everything that gets talked > about > on > > this group. So here I go with another question. I am puzzled why and how > this > >is > > an animal feed supplement. MSM tastes so vile that how in the world would > > >anyone > > get an animal to eat it? I dowse mine with peppermint oil to mask the > >bitterness > > to get it down. But if any flakes stay in my mouth, Ugh. How does someone > get > > this into an animal? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 I used to give it to an older horse and it never seemed to be a problem. I used a powder form and would just mix it in with some grain, one with a little molasses or something sweet works best and the powder sticks to the grain. It is amazing what horses will do for grain. Jennie Sent from my iPad On Mar 2, 2011, at 16:37, J Trettel <gnp222@...> wrote: > Lyn, that has me puzzled, also. MSM is sooooo bitter, I have to force it > down, but just take it in water. I can't imagine an animal willingly taking > it at all!!! > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Lyn K <godisbest4me@...> wrote: > >> >> >> Chuckle. Well, I don't know what to say about that one. But considering >> that >> the MSM site we were sent was for an MSM supplement for farm animals, that >> is >> what got me wondering. >> >> Personally, I'd think it more successful to give my animals coconut oil for >> >> their health. >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Alobar <Alobar@...> >> Coconut Oil >> Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 5:58:43 PM >> Subject: Re: Re: MSM >> >> Not sure if was on this list or another health list, but some years >> ago someone posted about how much her dog really loved MSM. That >> startled me. Then I recalled that dogs sniff each other's butts and >> eat spoiled meat. No accounting for taste amongst the various animals >> on this planet. >> >> Alobar >> >> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Lyn K <godisbest4me@...> wrote: >>> I am really new to MSM. I am really new to everything that gets talked >> about >> on >>> this group. So here I go with another question. I am puzzled why and how >> this >>> is >>> an animal feed supplement. MSM tastes so vile that how in the world would >> >>> anyone >>> get an animal to eat it? I dowse mine with peppermint oil to mask the >>> bitterness >>> to get it down. But if any flakes stay in my mouth, Ugh. How does someone >> get >>> this into an animal? >>> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 The key word here is TASTE. MSM only tastes badly to some. I never minded it, but my wife did. She has since gotten use to it. Think about what it is doing for you. I actually enjoy the cold part and am neutral to the slight bitter taste. My golden Retriever got a terrible case of arthritis at age 8 and could not go up stairs. I wrapped it in raw hamburger and he woofed it down like candy. In two weeks he was running up and down stairs like a puppy. His hips finally failed at age 15 after I failed to exercise him in bad weather. This is the 2nd part of this supplement... exercise. You have to get it worked into the joints for it to be effective. Regards, Jim >I am really new to MSM. I am really new to everything that gets talked about on this group. So here I go with another question. I am puzzled why and how this is an animal feed supplement. MSM tastes so vile that how in the world would anyone get an animal to eat it? I dowse mine with peppermint oil to mask the bitterness to get it down. But if any flakes stay in my mouth, Ugh. How does someone get this into an animal?< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Nice post, Jim... I do not mind the taste, tho can understand that some might... I personally think about the benefits... and I think we have gotten used to a 'spoonful of sugar mentality'Â Â thank you Poppins...lol... And...I do give it to my dog...a 9 y/o choc lab... I do feel it helps her... MSM is good stuff... d From: Huuman <huuman60@...> Subject: Re: MSM Coconut Oil Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 8:45 AM Â The key word here is TASTE. MSM only tastes badly to some. I never minded it, but my wife did. She has since gotten use to it. Think about what it is doing for you. I actually enjoy the cold part and am neutral to the slight bitter taste. My golden Retriever got a terrible case of arthritis at age 8 and could not go up stairs. I wrapped it in raw hamburger and he woofed it down like candy. In two weeks he was running up and down stairs like a puppy. His hips finally failed at age 15 after I failed to exercise him in bad weather. This is the 2nd part of this supplement... exercise. You have to get it worked into the joints for it to be effective. Regards, Jim >I am really new to MSM. I am really new to everything that gets talked about on this group. So here I go with another question. I am puzzled why and how this is an animal feed supplement. MSM tastes so vile that how in the world would anyone get an animal to eat it? I dowse mine with peppermint oil to mask the bitterness to get it down. But if any flakes stay in my mouth, Ugh. How does someone get this into an animal?< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 When I first began taking it I mixed it with water and had the same experience. VERY bitter. Then I did a little research and found an alternate way. I now put the entire amount (one scoop=5 grams) on my tongue, close my mouth and let it dissolve in the saliva without moving my tongue. No chewing. It only takes a few minutes. I follow that with 8 oz of water with a squirt of lime juice. There is very little bitterness this way. Sounds counterintuitive but it works for me. Best, Dee > > > I am really new to MSM. I am really new to everything that gets talked > > about > > on > > > this group. So here I go with another question. I am puzzled why and how > > this > > >is > > > an animal feed supplement. MSM tastes so vile that how in the world would > > > > >anyone > > > get an animal to eat it? I dowse mine with peppermint oil to mask the > > >bitterness > > > to get it down. But if any flakes stay in my mouth, Ugh. How does someone > > get > > > this into an animal? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 On the subject of MSM, I have read that Organic Sulfur Crystals more potent than MSM. Anyone have any experience with this? Consider the organic sulfur crystal study update http://www.naturalnews.com/031441_organic_sulfur_crystals.html Organic sulfur crystals are a miracle food that provides amazing health benefits http://www.NaturalNews.com/029263_sulfur_joint_health.html Some NaturalNews readers are probably already familiar with methylsulfonylmethane (MSM), the chemical name for sulfur, and some may already take this supplement, but did you know that many powdered supplement versions of MSM have lost most of their potency due to processing? When sulfur crystals are converted into powdered form, as most are, they lose about 85 percent of their effectiveness. And they become even less effective when synthetic anti-caking agents are added. Hesh Goldstein, nutritionist and moderator of the radio show " Health Talk Hawaii " , has introduced a potent, crystallized form of organic sulfur crystals that far surpasses most other MSM products on the market. Goldstein's crystals are made from the lignans of pine trees, which according to Goldstein, is the most effective form. These organic sulfur crystals are highly at preventing, and treating, a whole host of diseases and illnesses. Some of the many benefits of organic sulfur crystals include: -Increasing enzyme production within bodily glands and improving resistance to illness -Increasing flexibility in muscle tissue -Increasing blood circulation -Reducing muscle inflammation and promoting muscle healing -Promoting the healthy growth of hair and fingernails -Discouraging the growth of cancer cells through oxygenation -Reversing osteoporosis, Alzheimer's disease and Parkinson's disease -Promoting healthy skin production and reducing wrinkles -Regulating insulin production -Improving colon function and eliminating colonic parasites Twelve years ago, researchers began the Cellular Matrix Study, the purpose of which is to evaluate the effects of sulfur on cell regeneration. McGean, director of the study, had successfully used organic sulfur crystals to cure his son's terminal germ cell testicular cancer. Since it started, the study has found that people from around the world have experienced similar incredible results from taking organic sulfur crystals. Diabetics have significantly lowered or even eliminated the need for taking insulin, people with high blood pressure no longer need medication, and people with osteoporosis have reversed their bone loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 I put the powder under my tongue because taste bud are on top of tongue. Then dump in a mouthful of water, swallw quickly, then tke more water. Vitamin C in the water also helps. Alobar On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Dolores <dgk@...> wrote: > When I first began taking it I mixed it with water and had the same experience. VERY bitter. Then I did a little research and found an alternate way. I now put the entire amount (one scoop=5 grams) on my tongue, close my mouth and let it dissolve in the saliva without moving my tongue. No chewing. It only takes a few minutes. I follow that with 8 oz of water with a squirt of lime juice. There is very little bitterness this way. Sounds counterintuitive but it works for me. > > Best, > Dee > > >> >> Lyn, that has me puzzled, also. MSM is sooooo bitter, I have to force it >> down, but just take it in water. I can't imagine an animal willingly taking >> it at all!!! >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 I generally add a tablespoon or two to something with vitamin C. My recent ritual is to put half a teaspoon of Ascorbic Powder in a glass, half a teaspoon of baking soda, add an inch or less of warm water and stir. I then add a packet of Emergen-C and stir wildly to keep it from overlflowing the glass, then I add my warm herb tea. Have read many things saying VitC is unstable but the EmergenC people say it's ok to use their product with hot water so I do that. Will move to warm or tepid water as spring arrives here. MSM gives an off flavor but...ho hum. Dr has studies on his site indicating that MSM is synergistic with Vitamin C. Saralou On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote: > > > I put the powder under my tongue because taste bud are on top of > tongue. Then dump in a mouthful of water, swallw quickly, then tke > more water. Vitamin C in the water also helps. > > Alobar > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Dolores <dgk@...> wrote: > > When I first began taking it I mixed it with water and had the same > experience. VERY bitter. Then I did a little research and found an alternate > way. I now put the entire amount (one scoop=5 grams) on my tongue, close my > mouth and let it dissolve in the saliva without moving my tongue. No > chewing. It only takes a few minutes. I follow that with 8 oz of water with > a squirt of lime juice. There is very little bitterness this way. Sounds > counterintuitive but it works for me. > > > > Best, > > Dee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 On 2011-03-03 5:12 PM, Deneen wrote: > On the subject of MSM, I have read that Organic Sulfur Crystals more > potent than MSM. Anyone have any experience with this? > > Consider the organic sulfur crystal study update > http://www.naturalnews.com/031441_organic_sulfur_crystals.html > > Organic sulfur crystals are a miracle food that provides amazing health > benefits > http://www.NaturalNews.com/029263_sulfur_joint_health.html > > Some NaturalNews readers are probably already familiar with > methylsulfonylmethane (MSM), the chemical name for sulfur, and some may > already take this supplement, but did you know that many powdered > supplement versions of MSM have lost most of their potency due to > processing? When sulfur crystals are converted into powdered form, as > most are, they lose about 85 percent of their effectiveness. And they > become even less effective when synthetic anti-caking agents are added. <snip> Interesting... it is much more expensive, but maybe it is worth it? Maybe, maybe not... it is also interesting to note that the recommended dosage for this stuff is 1-2 Tablespoons, and the recommended dosage of the MSM powder Jim recommended is 1-2 TEAspoons... So, not only is the stuff Jim recommends much much cheaper, you use less of it... As a purist, I don't mind paying more for a better quality product, but I'd sure like to know if there is any legitimacy to the argument about crystals vs powder... also, I guess that could explain the dosage difference - ie, crystals have more 'volume', so it takes more to equal the same amount you get in a teaspoon of powder. <sigh> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Yes...I take mine with rose hips tincture... My body is organic and the things I put in it work best if they are organic... d > > When I first began taking it I mixed it with water and had the same > experience. VERY bitter. Then I did a little research and found an alternate > way. I now put the entire amount (one scoop=5 grams) on my tongue, close my > mouth and let it dissolve in the saliva without moving my tongue. No > chewing. It only takes a few minutes. I follow that with 8 oz of water with > a squirt of lime juice. There is very little bitterness this way. Sounds > counterintuitive but it works for me. > > > > Best, > > Dee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 If it's sulfur you want (as opposed to MSM's other benefits) consider a homeopathic. They work if you need them and don't taste like anything. Saralou research links. :// 74.95.82.237:591/boericke/FMPro?-db=whp_boericke.fp5 & -lay=allfields & -format=sear\ ch.html & -findany ://www.homeoint.org/site/classhom/sulphur.htm :// hpathy.com/homeopathy-books-online/materia-medica-pura-samuel-hahnemann/sulphur/ ://www.homeopathy.com.pk/boericke/r-s/sulphur.php On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@...> wrote: > > > On 2011-03-03 5:12 PM, Deneen wrote: > > On the subject of MSM, I have read that Organic Sulfur Crystals more > > potent than MSM. Anyone have any experience with this? > > > > Consider the organic sulfur crystal study update > > http://www.naturalnews.com/031441_organic_sulfur_crystals.html > > > > Organic sulfur crystals are a miracle food that provides amazing health > > benefits > > http://www.NaturalNews.com/029263_sulfur_joint_health.html > > > > Some NaturalNews readers are probably already familiar with > > methylsulfonylmethane (MSM), the chemical name for sulfur, and some may > > already take this supplement, but did you know that many powdered > > supplement versions of MSM have lost most of their potency due to > > processing? When sulfur crystals are converted into powdered form, as > > most are, they lose about 85 percent of their effectiveness. And they > > become even less effective when synthetic anti-caking agents are added. > > <snip> > > Interesting... it is much more expensive, but maybe it is worth it? > > Maybe, maybe not... it is also interesting to note that the recommended > dosage for this stuff is 1-2 Tablespoons, and the recommended dosage of > the MSM powder Jim recommended is 1-2 TEAspoons... > > So, not only is the stuff Jim recommends much much cheaper, you use less > of it... > > As a purist, I don't mind paying more for a better quality product, but > I'd sure like to know if there is any legitimacy to the argument about > crystals vs powder... also, I guess that could explain the dosage > difference - ie, crystals have more 'volume', so it takes more to equal > the same amount you get in a teaspoon of powder. > > <sigh> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 > > Lyn, that has me puzzled, also. MSM is sooooo bitter, I have > to force it down, but just take it in water. I can't imagine > an animal willingly taking it at all!!! I found that I could no longer taste the bitterness if I dissolved a teaspoon of MSM in a liter of water. I was able to go through the bulk pound I'd purchased simply by using it up in my daily drinking water. I didn't feel any difference from taking it, so I never bought it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Hi , That sounds like the best idea yet. I'm going to try that next. I always add a squirt of lime or lemon juice to my drinking water anyway so that should help as well. Lots of good ideas coming out of the e-woodwork here :-) Dee > > I found that I could no longer taste the bitterness if I dissolved a teaspoon of MSM in a liter of water. I was able to go through the bulk pound I'd purchased simply by using it up in my daily drinking water. I didn't feel any difference from taking it, so I never bought it again. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 On 2011-03-04 10:05 AM, Stanley wrote: > I didn't feel any difference from taking it, so I never bought it again. Not all MSM is created equal - there are crappy versions that are almost worthless... I'm really curious now about the claim that once the crystal flakes are powdered, they lose much of their potency... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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