MSM

[Guest guest]

Yes, the MSM is probably what is keeping you awake. I take it for soft tissue

and joint pain and it works just great. I have recomended it to others with

the same results. But I recomend that they take like a gram early in the

morning and again in the afternoon. But not in the evening. This works well

if you can control the pain in that matter. But if needed, there is other

things that one can take to help induce sleep.

Gene Downey

[Guest guest]

Tangerine,

I don't know much about MSM, but in general, if the evening is when the body

rests & rebuilds, then anything that is energizing will keep you awake. If you

were deficient in someting that MSM helps you manufacture, that alone might be

energizing to a deficient body. But, sometimes these effects wear off after your

body adapts to the normality of no longer being deficient. It will depend on

whether you are getting something truly energizing from the MSM, or just getting

the energizing effect of something in which you were dificient.

jim

Tangerine wrote:

> From: " Tangerine " <jurimed@...>

>

> I have been taking MSM for a couple of weeks now, and notice a big change in

> my level of energy -- I have a lot more. However, I find that if I take it

> even in the afternoon, I have trouble sleeping at night. It is as if my

> brain is hyperactive and I wake up a lot. Can anyone tell me why the MSM is

> doing this? I am not really tired the next day, but I like sleeping better

> than that.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Tangerine

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Tangerine wrote:

>

> From: " Tangerine " <jurimed@...>

>

> I have been taking MSM for a couple of weeks now, and notice a big change in

> my level of energy -- I have a lot more. However, I find that if I take it

> even in the afternoon, I have trouble sleeping at night.

Just a thought, MSM is a paracitide and you could also be having some

die-off that would be symptomatic this way??

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[Guest guest]

Hi:

Has anyone heard of MSM? My husband bought me the book on it. It is

supposed to help with chronic pain, among other things. My daughter went to

a Naturopathic dr. the day after I got the book and he put her one it along

with Colostrum. I went to the health food store and got some MSM and took

it. It works quite well for me. I have less pain, (I had started taking

aspirin recently for it) and I noticed my stamina is better. I don't really

feel any different when I take it, but noticed the benefits the first day. I

thought it may be a coincidence, so I didn't take it one day. I was back to

aspirin. I just hope it keeps up and doesn't fizzle out like so many other

things have after time.

Also, has anyone taken colostum? I thought it was really stupid when I first

heard of it a couple of months ago. Why would a grown person take something

that is made for a newborn cow? My daughter says it really gives her a lot

of energy. She even has to watch when she takes it in the afternoon. If she

takes it too late, she has trouble sleeping. I plan to try it after I have

been on the MSM for a month. I want to know exactly what each one does and

it is hard to tell what is doing what if you start them at the same time.

Dianne

[Guest guest]

hi all, also according to dr. jeffrey anderson( 25 years specilize in

enviromental medicne and chronic degenrative disorders inf Marin county,

calif. one of several things as a good starting point for milder heavy metal

binding/chealting process in the sicker patients. (versus use dmsa, dmps)

..suggested also use whey protein product with msm+(nac etc.) when working on

heavy metal detox. or can use a branched chain amino acid formula( leucine

especailly, isolecuine, ? forgot last one) somish

[Guest guest]

A great place to buy MSM and also for information on

the product is at http://www.pennysaved.com. They sell

a pure form of MSM with no fillers or binders.

_________________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Dear Lash,

MSM - METHYL SULPHONYL METHANE

MSM is extracted from DMSO by the process of adding another oxygen molecule

to it so that it separates the dimethyl solvent from the sulphur. The

sulphur left after this process is a biologically active sulphur, and it is

the active ingredient in DMSO.

DMSO is a byproduct of the timber industry. At one time, Crown Zellerbach

attempted to get rid of this " waste " by spraying it on dirt roads to compact

the earth. This caused problems, because animals of every description would

come and lick it all up. The deer would lick six inch potholes in the road.

Dr. Stanley of the Oregon Health Sciences University observed this and

later identified this substance as DMSO, a healing penetrant that instantly

soaks through the skin and reduces pain. Eventually, Dr. discovered

that the active healing agent in DMSO is MSM.

MSM is a sulphur-bearing amino acid and is available to the cell, creating

a flexible bond. Cells with insufficient sulphur lose their ability to flex.

A wrinkle is caused by cells that have lost their ability to flex.

Sulphur has a vital relationship with protein, since sulphur is found in

the amino acids methionine, cystine and cysteine. The sulphur-bearing amino

acid is absolutely essential to health.

-Sulphur acts as an activator with all the B vitamins, thiamin, biotin,

Vitamin C and pantothenic acid.

-Sulphur aids the liver in bile secretion and helps maintain the overall

body balance between acidity and alkalinity.

-Sulphur plays a role in carbohydrate metabolism, which is significant for

controlling hypoglycemia and diabetes. The lack of biological sulphur in the

body results in low insulin production.

-Sulphur is a component of insulin, which is secreted by the pancreas for

metabolizing carbohydrates.

-Sulphur keeps hair, nails and skin healthy.

-In addition, sulphur plays an important part in cell respiration and

assimilation.

MSM is therefore essential to good health.

Medical research has proven that a minimal concentration od MSM is critical

to function and structure, and the concentration in the body drops as time

passes, directly contributing to aging. There has been extensive medical

testing over the last fifteen years on the use of MSM in the diet. Some

diseases considered irreversible, such as emphysema, have been overcome

through use of supplemental MSM.

Other diseases treated with excellent results are: pyorrhea, skin burns,

scars, eczema, psoriasis, dandruff, loss of hair, PMS, diabetes,

hyperacidity, constipation, arthritis, carpal tunnel syndrome, candida,

chronic fatigue syndrome, Epstein-Barr and low energy level. MSM helps with

the oxygenation of cells and free radical scavenging, and is thus

anti-aging.

Because it helps in the production of methionine, a basic liver amino acid,

MSM is very important to proper digestion and assimilation of food. The

liver cannot do its job of regulating enzymes and metering sugar and

filtering toxins properly without MSM.

MSM occurs in eggs, fresh fruit and vegetables, raw milk, wheat grass juice

and aloe vera. Absorption of vitamins and minerals will be optimally

enhanced with daily supplementation with MSM. There is no toxic dose, and

the body will excrete an excess.

Best of Health!

Saul Pressman

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>From: LASHLIN@...

>

>Saul,

>What's MSM?

>Lash

>

>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Excellent article, Saul. That was the best one I have seen so far. I am glad

there is someone out there that likes to type all of this out like that. I

have done this in the past but many times have felt that it was wasted time.

That is the wrong approch to this but it seems to happen.

Thanks again. Another one of your e-mails put into the files.

Gene Downey

[Guest guest]

On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 14:36:39 -0500, susan falci <faltrk@...> wrote:

>Hello to all!!

> Just recently I found a source for MSM-but it has as additional

>ingrediates-soduim silico aluminate,which I suspect could be a

>preservative! I tried to do a search to locate what it is-what it

>does-but no luck!!The company that is selling it-is suppose to have a

>web page-but can't seem to " access " it!!Any ideas!!don't want to take

>something w/out being really sure!!Thanks for any info!!

Try Dancing Wolf.

Good prices, no additives

http://www.dancingwolf-inc.com/

Chuck

money is the root of all evil. But man needs roots.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Sodium silicoaluminate is an anti-caking agent. I know that because

Morton Salt took it out of their salt and replaced it with calcium

silicate. That's all I know though. J.

[Guest guest]

susan falci wrote:

>

> From: susan falci <faltrk@...>

>

> Hello to all!!

> Just recently I found a source for MSM-but it has as additional

> ingrediates-soduim silico aluminate,which I suspect could be a

> preservative! I tried to do a search to locate what it is-what it

> does-but no luck!!The company that is selling it-is suppose to have a

> web page-but can't seem to " access " it!!Any ideas!!don't want to take

> something w/out being really sure!!Thanks for any info!!

>

:

You want 99.99 present pure MSM. If is has anything else in it don't use

it. There is pure MSM available. Do a web search for Rich Distributing,

Portland, Oregon. Or just MSM. Anyone know where to get MSM for under

$65 for two pound bulk MSM ?

Del Snow

[Guest guest]

At 04:50 PM 11/8/99 -0800, you wrote:

>From: Martha Pfeiffer <kmpfeiffer@...>

>

> wrote:

>

>DMSO is the forerunner of MSM. MSM is derived from

>DMSO which is still

>available and used mainly as a topical solution. I use

>MSM too, at onepoint

>as much as 20 grams a day. Sulfar is a basic mineral

>so it helps withwide

>range of things, like garlic. Helps relieve

>instestinal inflamation and

>constipation. I find it very energizing.

>

>Question from Martha: Sounds as if you have had alot

>of experience with MSM. It is on my list of things to

>try next. Does it matter what brand or kind of MSM

>one takes, or will any brand work? In what form did

>you take 20 grams a day? Currently, I am addressing

>the energy and constipation syptoms. Thanks for your

>in-put.

>

>Martha,

Powdered is economical. I found Jarrow to be good. I have also tried

Orboyce, not in stores, but did not find it any better really. I think

brands always matter. There is no overdose level. Take it until you are

loose or it doesn't give you a little energy kick.

>

>=====

>

>>This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jill, thanks for the kind wods, they really mean a lot to me. I am very

fortunate to have such a wonderful husband. It's amazing what the Lord can

do if we let Him!

Sincerely,

Tami

In a message dated 3/15/00 8:15:25 PM Pacific Standard Time,

steveandjillharris@... writes:

<< From: " Jill " <steveandjillharris@...>

I have read that some of you guys are taking MSM. I have seen in it

powder form and as a lotion. Which are you using and how do you take

it?

Tami, each day I am even more amazed at your ability to be postive no

matter what you face. You make me strive to be a better person. I

am so glad that your husband knows what a gem he has and is so

supportive of you.

Jill in Florida >>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jill,

I take MSM in tablet form. I use Natural Balance brand and I love it.

Rashelle

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MSM

From: "Jill " <steveandjillharris@...> I have read that some of you guys are taking MSM. I have seen in itpowder form and as a lotion. Which are you using and how do you takeit?Tami, each day I am even more amazed at your ability to be postive nomatter what you face. You make me strive to be a better person. Iam so glad that your husband knows what a gem he has and is sosupportive of you. Jill in Florida

[Guest guest]

Hi Bonnie,

I take 3000 mgs of MSM. This was the recommended daily dosage for arthritis,

which is why I started taking it in the first place. I did not start taking

that much, but about a month after I increased the dosage, I started

noticing relief from the arthritis as well as smooth skin and hair. My nails

seem better too.

Marie

[Guest guest]

Bonnie,

I take 500mg per 50 lbs. of body weight twice a day.

~Karma

MSM

From: "Bonnie" <block312@...>

Hi again. How many mg of MSM is everyone taking????

God bless, Bonnie

**********************************With God, ALL things are possible**********************************

[Guest guest]

Thanks Karma. Appreciate you replying :-)

God bless, Bonnie

**********************************With God, ALL things are possible**********************************

[Guest guest]

Hi, ,

>What about MSM(Methyl Sulphonyl Methane) can this act as a methyl

>donor also? I have just been forwarded this link

>http://www.bulkmsm.com which I will check out later.

As far as I know MSM does not act as a methyl donor in the body. But very

few studies have been done on it so far.

My suspicion is that the extra methyl groups are grabbed by gut flora.

The site looks like a typical sales site - lots of testimonials, a bunch of

non-scitentificese explanations of how MSM does what it does etc. Also, I

didn't see anything about purity/quality of the bulk MSM. This can be a real

worry, as some bulk chemicals are made to industrial standards instead of

drug standards. (Bulk DMSO, for instance, is often loaded with heavy metals.

For those who want DMSO to use for themselves, veterinary grade is good, and

Autn Sophie's arthritic old German shepard is a big consumer :-) )

Jerry

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

Thanks for this tip! With all that we take, we need more inexpensive

supplements!

Christie

>Jarrow makes a cheap MSM powder, 200 grms/70z. for around $14, 1/4 tsp. =

>1000 mg. You can buy it even cheaper at a tack store (horse supplies), my

>acupuncturist swears its the same grade as sold for human consumption.

>This is a pretty cheap fix if it helps.

>

>Judith

[Guest guest]

Beyond a century carries MSM in bulk $15lb and caps.

http://www.beyond-a-century.com/

I buy lots of stuff from them.

I've used Rich's MSM drops too.

I've since then made up my own with distilled water,MSM, and colloidal silver.

I expect the CS to keep the mix sterile.

Chuck

I'm proud to be paying taxes in the United States, but I could be twice as proud

for half the money!

On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:59:21 EDT, dbates3809@... wrote:

>Wonder if someone can tell me a good place online to order MSM? I have been

>using

>it for quite a while, ordered from Rich Distributing. I also ordered

>MSM eyedrops but just as I started using them, I had a vivid dream in which a

>man in a lab coat, who seemed to be a doctor or medical person grabbed the

>bottle out of my hand, glared at me, and emptied the bottle on the floor!

>I stopped using the eyewash immediately. Today I received a

>notice from Rich Distributing containing an article in an Oregon newspaper

>stating that bacteria had been found in the eyewash, bacteria that could be

>damaging to the eyes, and though there had been no reports of people having

>reactions, Rich Distributing was voluntarily recalling all bottles and offers

>refund. Can anyone recommend another distributor of MSM? thanks, dorothy

>

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[Guest guest]

> I've since then made up my own with distilled water,MSM, and colloidal

silver.

> I expect the CS to keep the mix sterile.

> Chuck

>

What are the proportions and percentages????

Thanks

[Guest guest]

HEY! I'm a GUY!!

We don't NEED no steenkin' PROPORTIONS!!

Seriously, a teaspoon of MSM crystals dissolved in about 3 oz of distilled

water, added an oz of homemade ~5ppm colloidal silver.

Added an eyedropperful of eyebright extract.

Filled the empty Riches eyedrop container (it holds an ounce).

Drank the rest.

Stings a little due to the distilled water.

Considering adding a pinch of salt to get rid of the sting, but it's tolerable

anyway. Haven't had the nerve to add cayenne yet. Just a matter of time.

Chuck

666A The Tenant of the Beast !

On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:43:40 -0700, " Westmoreland "

<heartsdesireranch@...> wrote:

>> I've since then made up my own with distilled water,MSM, and colloidal

>silver.

>> I expect the CS to keep the mix sterile.

>> Chuck

>>

>

>What are the proportions and percentages????

>Thanks

[Guest guest]

Ethleen,

I have been taking MSM for about 2 years or more now.

There is nothing dangerous about it as it only contains sulphur so you

can not overdose on it! Yes it is true that it is for joint problems

and I started taking it for breathing problems. A little over 2 years

ago I could hardly move because of breathing problems. When I visited

my daughter in Lake Tahoe, I could only stay a couple of days because I

couldn't breathe. She lived there before and I never had any problems

so I was mystified as to what the problem was. Then I couldn't breathe

at home or at work either if I did any type of physical work so I knew

it was getting worse. At the time I was taking Tenormin (Atenanol)

for my blood pressure the lowest dosage possible because I am VERY sensitive

to drugs. I had asthma and am missing (long name) in my blood that

paralyzes me if I am given too large a dosage of any drug. The dentist

gives me 1/4 of any shots and the doctor is glad I am staying healthy.

I take aspirin as a sleeping pill. Anyway my breathing problem turned

out to be the blood pressure pill and I was fine after I went off it but

by that time I noticed my fingernails were long and tough and the gal where

I have my haircut says she has never seen such healthy hair. Since

then I have noticed that I don't get sick even being around sick people.

I take six pills a day when I am exposed to sickness. I just cut

my nails yesterday because they just never break and they were way too

long to be good at typing. I have noticed that after I polish my

nails that after one week you can see at least 1/4 inch from the cuticle

where there is no nail polish. There is one side affect for some

people and that is heartburn. If you tend to suffer from it don't

take it at night and take it with a meal. I usually take two in the

morning before going to work.

This is probably more than you ever wanted to know about

me but I am sold on MSM. By the way I haven't had an asthma attack

since I started taking it. My asthma was related to allergies which

I don't have anymore either. Happy Thanksgiving!

Iva

ETimm wrote:

Iva-can

you please elaborate a little more on MSM? Interesting that just

this week I purchased some from the HealthFood Store and started taking

it. The clerk/owner of the store said that she thought it was for

those with joint problems or lung problems, of which I have neither, but

I was so sure that somewhere I read it was for better cell assimilation

of O2. She'd never heard of that but I took a risk and bought some

anyway. I was especially intrigued that you said you are taking it.

I did not know about the healthier nails from MSM but that will be worth

everything if it helps my splitting and fragile nails. (How long

til I could expect to see some results with the nails?) I'd love to hear

more about this product.Ethleen

[Guest guest]

Iva-thanks so much for the info. Most interesting and I am so happy that you were able to get off the other medications and onto something far far far healthier.

How many mg do you take a day? The capsules which I purchased are 1100 mg each. I've been taking 2 in the mornings and 2 at noon but perhaps that is too many.

Ethleen

[Guest guest]

No that isn't too much. I take 1000 mg, two in the morning if everyone

around me is well. With this flu season, I take 2 morning, noon and

night.

ETimm wrote:

Iva-thanks

so much for the info. Most interesting and I am so happy that you

were able to get off the other medications and onto something far far far

healthier. How many

mg do you take a day? The capsules which I purchased are 1100 mg

each. I've been taking 2 in the mornings and 2 at noon but perhaps

that is too many. Ethleen