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Dry eyes can do that . . . PH's recommendations are excellent.

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Well here I am again today with extreme fatigue and when I woke up, I noticed that my right eye was a little swollen and it looked infected. Has that ever happened to anyone?> > > > >> > > > > Stephie,> > > > > > > > > > I don't know of any particular schedule for doing Espom Salt > > > > baths . . . > > > > > > > > > > But since you had such a reaction (tan water), I'd wait at > > least a > > > >

few days while drinking a lot of water. . . > > > > > > > > > > You may feel a bit worse tomorrow. Wait until that's over.> > > > > > > > > > I know you want to get this over with as soon as possible. . . > > I'll > > > > let PH explain it the way Mercola's clinic explained it to > > her. . . > > > > This is something that must be done slowly. . . .Your body needs > > time > > > > to flush the toxins. > > > > > > > > > > You can do too much too fast. Not good.> > > > > > > > > > Hugs,> > > > > > > > > > Rogene> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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My temperature was in the 96 ranges! I could never get it higher.

That was a definite sign that I had a thyroid issue, but I didn't

know it was Hashi's until 4 years after explant.

Patty

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> > > > > > Stephie,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't know of any particular schedule for doing Espom

> Salt

> > > > > baths . . .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But since you had such a reaction (tan water), I'd wait

at

> > > least a

> > > > > few days while drinking a lot of water. . .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You may feel a bit worse tomorrow. Wait until that's over.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I know you want to get this over with as soon as

> > possible. . .

> > > I'll

> > > > > let PH explain it the way Mercola's clinic explained it to

> > > her. . .

> > > > > This is something that must be done slowly. . . .Your body

> > needs

> > > time

> > > > > to flush the toxins.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You can do too much too fast. Not good.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hugs,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rogene

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Steph ~

It is normal to loose hair with the change

of seasons, and also when you have anesthesia.

So, I am sure you are having enough loss that it

is scarey. Mine always fell out for about 8 weeks

or so after surgery. Then as it grew back in, it looked

like I had a mohawk til it got long enough to lay down

then my hair looked much thicker. I always knew

when I had the mohawk look that I would soon

have hair with bounce and volumn again.

Please dont worry, that in itself will stiffel things...

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Hi PH, If I could just ask you how much hair did you lose or how much

of it was falling out? It seems lately when I brush my hair or run my

hand through my hair a lot of it comes out. Thanks

Steph

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> > > > > > Stephie,

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> > > > >

> > > > > > Some women do have some hair loss after surgery - any

kind

> of

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> > > > > surgery . . . as well as with implants.

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> > > > >

> > > > > > It should grow back as you begin feeling better.

> > > > >

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> > > > > > How are you feeling today? . . . Forgive me if you've

> already

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> > > > > posted, I'm just getting to my computer.

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Hi Stephie,

I've always had baby fine, whispy hair so even to lose a little felt

like a lot. About a year before explant, my hair began losing its

luster and every time I'd brush I'd have 10-20 strands on my shirt.

Everywhere I'd go, people were picking strands off my shirt, coat.

Same as you, if I'd run my hands through my hair, some would come

out.

My hair stylist says people lose 75-100 hairs a day and more with the

change of the seasons. After explant surgery it was a lot worse but

then stopped. I'd say I've lost about a third of my hair...no bald

spots just a lot thinner but I can see where new growth is coming

in. Just try to be patient. - PH

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Stephie,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Some women do have some hair loss after surgery - any

> kind

> > of

> > > > > >

> > > > > > surgery . . . as well as with implants.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > It should grow back as you begin feeling better.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > How are you feeling today? . . . Forgive me if you've

> > already

> > > > > >

> > > > > > posted, I'm just getting to my computer.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hugs,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rogene

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Thanks Dede. I hope that mine will grow back. Before explant it was

falling out but it wasn't growing back. I hope after a couple of

months it'll stop falling out and start re-growing!

Love,Steph

>

> Steph ~

> It is normal to loose hair with the change

> of seasons, and also when you have anesthesia.

> So, I am sure you are having enough loss that it

> is scarey. Mine always fell out for about 8 weeks

> or so after surgery. Then as it grew back in, it looked

> like I had a mohawk til it got long enough to lay down

> then my hair looked much thicker. I always knew

> when I had the mohawk look that I would soon

> have hair with bounce and volumn again.

> Please dont worry, that in itself will stiffel things...

> Loveya~Dede

>

>

>

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Thanks PH. I always had a lot of hair and it's just thinner than it

was before. It worries me because before explant it would fall out

without any regrowth at all. I'm hoping for it to stop falling out

and then hopefully growing back again. I have an appointment with a

naturopath tomorrow night. He said that he tests via serum IgG, IgM

and IgA. Have you ever heard of that. I told him that I have a

candida problem. He also does the hair analysis and saliva tests. He

also takes my health insurance so I'm happy about that! I'm just

afraid that it won't grow back.

Steph

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Stephie,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Some women do have some hair loss after surgery - any

> > kind

> > > of

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > surgery . . . as well as with implants.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It should grow back as you begin feeling better.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > How are you feeling today? . . . Forgive me if you've

> > > already

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > posted, I'm just getting to my computer.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hugs,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rogene

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Not sure about dry skin, but hair loss is a symptom of poor circulation. Or at

least my doctor notes the hair on my toes and comments about my having good

circulation.

O

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Have heard of that before years ago when my doctor was checking my leg when

it was swollen pretty bad. That was when they found the Lyme diagnosis.

They had no idea why my leg was so swollen. Anyway, he checked my toes for

hair and said about the circulation issue. I still had it then, that was

back in 99. Will have to check out the ole toes later. (don't really like

feet)

Teri

-- Re: Hair loss

Not sure about dry skin, but hair loss is a symptom of poor circulation. Or

at least my doctor notes the hair on my toes and comments about my having

good circulation.

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---- SNIP ----

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> " In many people with CMT sensory loss is associated with dry skin

and hair

> loss in the affected area " .

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Wow! At least I still have all the hair on my head!

:)

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Hi Barbara,

I had a similar problem in the first couple of years that I was

taking Gleevec. I had a very thin patch right in the front but only

on one side. It was very bizarre.

I never needed a wig and the hair loss did eventually subside (or

maybe I just got used to it).

One thing I would check out though is your thyroid and B12 level.

Both of which could play a role in hair loss.

Take care,

Tracey

dx Jan 2002

>

> I have been on 400mg Gleevec since July 2006 and along with the

joint/bone

> pain, nausea, fatigue, I had noticed slight hair loss. It was

enough loss

> that I had to clean out the drain before I finished my shower, but

that had

> been the most I'd noticed. I had very thick hair, so it wasn't

noticeable to

> anyone else.

>

> However, this past week, I noticed it was in my hands when I washed

my hair,

> which was different than before. I sleep on my right side mainly

because of

> hip pain and now I've noticed a large patch of missing hair and it

looks

> like the right side is noticeable thinner than the left side. My

sister

> noticed also that my hair was starting to look really thin.

>

> I'm wondering how long before I have to go to a wig? I also have

noticed my

> thick and long eyelashes are now so short and thin I can hardly

pull my

> eyelid out with them. I wondered if anyone else was having this

problem?

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

> Barbara

>

> Fayetteville, Ga

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Barbara:

I experienced hair loss from Gleevec several years ago. I started

using Nioxin shampoo and conditioner and it made a big difference. I

have thick hair and like you said it was coming out all the time. I

bought some hats because I thought everyone would notice.

You can buy Nioxin at the beauty salon or online. It really helps.

K

>

> I have been on 400mg Gleevec since July 2006 and along with the

joint/bone

> pain, nausea, fatigue, I had noticed slight hair loss. It was

enough loss

> that I had to clean out the drain before I finished my shower, but

that had

> been the most I'd noticed. I had very thick hair, so it wasn't

noticeable to

> anyone else.

>

> However, this past week, I noticed it was in my hands when I washed

my hair,

> which was different than before. I sleep on my right side mainly

because of

> hip pain and now I've noticed a large patch of missing hair and it

looks

> like the right side is noticeable thinner than the left side. My

sister

> noticed also that my hair was starting to look really thin.

>

> I'm wondering how long before I have to go to a wig? I also have

noticed my

> thick and long eyelashes are now so short and thin I can hardly

pull my

> eyelid out with them. I wondered if anyone else was having this

problem?

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

> Barbara

>

> Fayetteville, Ga

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I have used Nioxin for several years. I use the shampoo and the scalp therapy. 

I had started losing my hair in the 3rd month of sprycel and (was not using the

scalp therapy at the time)

I once again added it to the reguime and the hair loss decrease.

I have long hair so I also use the conditioned.

I wouldn't leave home without it.

Anita

[ ] Hair loss

Dear (Knotts),

I bought a whole kit of Nioxin products from my hairdresser, but they had so

many different things you had to do, I got tired of reading all the directions

to see which I had to use before and after. Is that all you use, just the

shampoo and conditioner? Then maybe I will try it again. I notice my son bought

some from J. C. Penney. I'll have to put it on my list of supplies I need to

get.

Blessings,

Lottie

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Dear Lottie:

I know Nioxin has a bunch of different products. I just use the

shampoo and scalp therapy and it has worked so far. My hair is back to

its noraml thickness. It does cost more than normal shampoos but to me

it is worth it. I try to get it on sale or sometimes I buy it online

with free shipping.

K

>

> Dear (Knotts),

> I bought a whole kit of Nioxin products from my hairdresser, but

they had so many different things you had to do, I got tired of reading

all the directions to see which I had to use before and after. Is that

all you use, just the shampoo and conditioner? Then maybe I will try

it again. I notice my son bought some from J. C. Penney. I'll have to

put it on my list of supplies I need to get.

> Blessings,

> Lottie

>

>

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a,

Hon, I really feel for you. I now cut my hair shorter than I like it

so that it doesn't look so thin. Trying to cover the back is a real

time consuming pain. I spread it out the best I can and then spray

it down.

Like you my rheummy said it would correct itself over time. 17

months and counting. It's MTX that causes my hair loss. I guess it

varies from person to person. I haven't heard the guys in the group

comment much about this.

Hope you have a good day.

Shirley

>

> Hi Clora....

>

> My med (arava) is thinning my hair also and its always been so

thin anyway.

> Baby thin. My rheumy told me that plaquinel and artava can cause

alopecia.

> He also said that my body should become used to the med and the

hair should

> grow back. It hasn't and its been about a year. I hate it since

my hair is so

> baby fine already. Now I can see my ears thru it which I could

before, but

> this is more obvious.

>

> I am using Nioxin cleaning system for shampoo and conditioner. It

makes it

> feel a little heavier but it still is thin. Everytime i use my

hair brush, I

> can see lots of the brush. I don't blow dry or curl with a

curling iron.

>

> I take 10 mg of arava everyday. Wish there was something I could

do to make

> it grow.

>

> Hugs..a

>

>

>

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Thanks for the info on Nioxin. I just ordered some and was able to

find a discount code for 5%.

I used to love my hair. I would like to enjoy it again!

Shirley

>

> ...also, I think my enbrel can do it too...so along with the

> arava....alopecia here I come. lol

>

> Hugs..a

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a,

Just to be on the safe side I would call the rheummy's ofc and ask

to pick up a copy of your bloodwork. If you have a fax, that could

work also. I don't like assuming when it comes to doctors. I know

the lab my insurance requires my rheummy to send to has failed twice

to send the results. This was not noticed until I asked about them.

The pointing fingers is awful. Worse is, you are in the middle with

no control over either but you are the one that suffers from it.

My boss wears her hair cut like a man's and she loves it. It is so

short that people have asked me about her sexual preference. Why!

She is straight but why ask?

Sorry you are having a bout with sleeping. I hope you get a better

night of rest tonight.

Shirley

>

> Sorry that meant Shirley and wrote Clora's name....

>

> Too earluy...lol woke up at 4:30 am and couldn't fall back to

sleep.

>

> I'm thinking of cutting my hair shorter too...but I'm afraid it

will look

> like I'm bald. lol

> I feel the back thinning....at the crown..where you put your head

on the

> pillow. That's the first place I could tell it was getting

sparse.

>

> I don't spray my hair very much because i'm afraid of breakage

when I come it

> out. My hair is so fragile.

>

> I think I have been on the arava and enbrel about 2 yrs now.

>

> I've thought about vitamins for the hair. I believe it is E but

already take

> a one a day vitamin,/ I had this done to ask my rheumy about on

my visit in

> June..but my medicaid care source in Ohio and rheumy are having

problems..he

> blames them for not paying and they say he is prob not doing the

paperwork

> correctly. Yeah, right. So, us Aged Blind and/or disabled card

holders are

> having a tough time kepping drs.

> He gave me my prescriptions and told me to always get the

bloodwork done at

> the hospital...they fax results to him. I sure hope he's looking

at them. So,

> it's quite discouraging but i digress.

>

> Dave's sister cuts her hair so short that people have asked her

about her

> chemo. I don't think I could cut my hair like she has. she loves

it!

>

> I wish there was something else I can do.

>

> Hugs and good luck...a

>

>

>

> a,

> Hon, I really feel for you. I now cut my hair shorter than I like

it

> so that it doesn't look so thin. Trying to cover the back is a

real

> time consuming pain. I spread it out the best I can and then spray

> it down.

> Like you my rheummy said it would correct itself over time. 17

> months and counting. It's MTX that causes my hair loss. I guess it

> varies from person to person. I haven't heard the guys in the

group

> comment much about this.

> Hope you have a good day.

> Shirley

>

>

>

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I don't know if you have posted before about Dave or if I just

missed it. Honey, I am so sorry that both of you are having his

illness to deal with.

My prayers are with you.

Shirley

>

> Hi Shirley....

>

> I always get the copies of my bloodwork mailed to me. But haven't

done that

> the last two times. I think I've been so busy with my hubby Dave

(dx'd with

> leukemia and getting chemo trtmts) I just didn't bother. I always

send a SASE

> and have them mail them to me. I do have a fax. I had labs drawn

the end of

> July for my gyn surgery. but they don't keep the results and they

don't test

> all that the rheumy tests for.

>

> I just don't think short hair works for me. Maybe I'm just

keeping it

> because its there at least and I don't want to lose any of it. lol

>

> Have a good one..a

>

> Just to be on the safe side I would call the rheummy's ofc and ask

> to pick up a copy of your bloodwork. If you have a fax, that could

> work also. I don't like assuming when it comes to doctors. I know

> the lab my insurance requires my rheummy to send to has failed

twice

> to send the results. This was not noticed until I asked about them.

>

> The pointing fingers is awful. Worse is, you are in the middle

with

> no control over either but you are the one that suffers from it.

>

> My boss wears her hair cut like a man's and she loves it. It is so

> short that people have asked me about her sexual preference. Why!

> She is straight but why ask?

>

> Sorry you are having a bout with sleeping. I hope you get a better

> night of rest tonight.

> Shirley

>

>

>

>

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I haven't had any hair loss from Enbrel. I'm glad, since my hair is

very fine and also thin.

Sue

On Saturday, October 11, 2008, at 07:24 AM, rascalsniche@... wrote:

> ...also, I think my enbrel can do it too...so along with the

> arava....alopecia here I come. lol

>

> Hugs..a

>

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Hi a

I take 5mg of folic acid and now she has just put me on calcium

folinate as wel. It says " Leucovorin calcium " on the bottle. I take

1/2 a tablet (7.5mg) 8 - 12 hours after I take mtx.

>

> Hi there..this is the same as folic acid, correct? I take folic

acid

> also...3 mgs. What is your dosage?

>

> Thanks..a

>

> Clora

>

> I noticed some hair thinning after I started mtx.  The rheumy has

now

> prescribed calcim folinate (Leucovorin calcium) to offset this.  So

> far so good. My hair seems to be getting back to normal

>

>

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