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In a message dated 2/2/99 6:31:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, PackerMB@...

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<< Last week, my hair started to come out. Any ideas as to why? >>

Mine started coming out too, and I can not tell you why. It just happened.

I'm wondering to if it may be thyroid problems (???). If you hear, let me

know! I thought maybe it was the name brand Minocin that Dr. Mercola

prescribed for me. When I mentioned that to him he said that the generic that

I was taking by Lederle is the best to be found, and to go ahead and get back

on that. Well, I am now taking the Lederle daily and the Brand Name Minocin

on MWF (can't bring myself to just throw it away, at $279 a bottle). I

actually think I have little fuzzies growing on my scalp, so maybe my hair's

coming back. But, this doesn't do you any good since you're not on Minocin,

huh? But what I'm thinking is my thyroid was messed up too, so it may have

something to do with that. Hope you get some answers and some hair regrowth!

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would you share why you switched to Doxy. Were you having a setback

and is the dose the same. How long were you on the Minocin before you

switched. A lot of us right now are stuck and either going backwards or

not progressing.

Thanks.

Hugs

Bev

rheumatic hair loss

>From: M Carroll <LCARROLL@...>

>

>HI Mike,

> I have a head full of new hair since switching to the doxi from mincocin.

>My hair is the show piece of the beautyshop becasue they have never seen so

>much regrowth in such a short time. I had been losing hair by the handfuls

>when I was on mincoin. But I have a lot more pain since I switched...

>

>

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Hi Bev,

The main reason I switched to Doxi was because of permanent grey marks

that developed about 5 months into the minocin. If I would bang or cut

myself , I would bruise with an ugly dark bruise and it would not fade for

months. I then noticed after about three months these bruises were staying

a grey color and would not fade anymore. Several wrote me that the

discoloration was permanent . I have some very troublesome grey marks all

over my legs now. Very noticable. It will take lazer surgery to have them

removed at a handsome price!

I had great success with the mincocin at first but I had begun to slip

in both pain and in blood values. This was about the time the discoloration

started so when I saw my rheumo he did not want me to take any more minocin

as he was very unamused with the way my legs looked and told me to switch

to doxi.

The doxi has reacted in a TOTALLY different way as the mincoin. I never

had a flare up with the mincoin except in my lungs ( and this was pretty

severe). The doxi has caused a daily flare up for the past four months but

has really helped with the lung problems that I was experiencing while on

the minocin.

I am better in many ways on the doxi. Incredible energy and health.

Great sleeping and for the first time in YEARS I get up at 5:30 a.m. and I

am awake and full of energy, not dragging around like I used to. I never

was a morning person and now I as fuctioning like one! My mind is clearer

and anxiety levels have dropped tremendously.

In a strange wasy ( despite all of this pain) I feel the doxi will be

the drug of choice for me in the long run as I feel it is really

aggrevating the infections in the joints as where the mincocin didn't cause

this flare up. I feel it is " geting down into the joints and really

stirring things up " ! When I go see Dr. Franco in April I will know more.

Sorry so long!

healtherdible At 08:57 AM 2/27/99 -0500, you wrote:

> would you share why you switched to Doxy. Were you having a setback

>and is the dose the same. How long were you on the Minocin before you

>switched. A lot of us right now are stuck and either going backwards or

>not progressing.

>

>Thanks.

>Hugs

>

>Bev

> rheumatic hair loss

>

>

>>From: M Carroll <LCARROLL@...>

>>

>>HI Mike,

>> I have a head full of new hair since switching to the doxi from mincocin.

>>My hair is the show piece of the beautyshop becasue they have never seen so

>>much regrowth in such a short time. I had been losing hair by the handfuls

>>when I was on mincoin. But I have a lot more pain since I switched...

>>

>>

>>

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Hi ,

I'm glad you shared this. Now if I have to switch I won't feel so bad.

The only reason I used Minocin first was because I get yeast infections

from Doxy. Now I know how to keep rhe yeast down. Do you know if you

need the name brand of Doxy to work like you need name brand Minocin to

work?

Thanks again

Cooky

M Carroll wrote:

>

> From: M Carroll <LCARROLL@...>

>

> Hi Bev,

> The main reason I switched to Doxi was because of permanent grey marks

> that developed about 5 months into the minocin. If I would bang or cut

> myself , I would bruise with an ugly dark bruise and it would not fade for

> months. I then noticed after about three months these bruises were staying

> a grey color and would not fade anymore. Several wrote me that the

> discoloration was permanent . I have some very troublesome grey marks all

> over my legs now. Very noticable. It will take lazer surgery to have them

> removed at a handsome price!

> I had great success with the mincocin at first but I had begun to slip

> in both pain and in blood values. This was about the time the discoloration

> started so when I saw my rheumo he did not want me to take any more minocin

> as he was very unamused with the way my legs looked and told me to switch

> to doxi.

> The doxi has reacted in a TOTALLY different way as the mincoin. I never

> had a flare up with the mincoin except in my lungs ( and this was pretty

> severe). The doxi has caused a daily flare up for the past four months but

> has really helped with the lung problems that I was experiencing while on

> the minocin.

> I am better in many ways on the doxi. Incredible energy and health.

> Great sleeping and for the first time in YEARS I get up at 5:30 a.m. and I

> am awake and full of energy, not dragging around like I used to. I never

> was a morning person and now I as fuctioning like one! My mind is clearer

> and anxiety levels have dropped tremendously.

> In a strange wasy ( despite all of this pain) I feel the doxi will be

> the drug of choice for me in the long run as I feel it is really

> aggrevating the infections in the joints as where the mincocin didn't cause

> this flare up. I feel it is " geting down into the joints and really

> stirring things up " ! When I go see Dr. Franco in April I will know more.

> Sorry so long!

>

>

> healtherdible At 08:57 AM 2/27/99 -0500, you wrote:

> > would you share why you switched to Doxy. Were you having a setback

> >and is the dose the same. How long were you on the Minocin before you

> >switched. A lot of us right now are stuck and either going backwards or

> >not progressing.

> >

> >Thanks.

> >Hugs

> >

> >Bev

> > rheumatic hair loss

> >

> >

> >>From: M Carroll <LCARROLL@...>

> >>

> >>HI Mike,

> >> I have a head full of new hair since switching to the doxi from mincocin.

> >>My hair is the show piece of the beautyshop becasue they have never seen so

> >>much regrowth in such a short time. I had been losing hair by the handfuls

> >>when I was on mincoin. But I have a lot more pain since I switched...

> >>

> >>

> >>

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> >

> >

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Hi

How long had you been on minocin? I have been doing so well on it. I

had a herk flare when I started then I just got better only my left

wrist was slightly sore, the swelling that had been in my right knee for

two years disappeared. Then this last week my right ankle has gotten

really sore amd so have my wrists and my knee is bothering me again.

Since I am new to this diagnosed 11/98 AP 12/98 I don't know if this is

just RA's way of playing with me or the cycle of treatment or February.

M Carroll wrote:

>

> From: M Carroll <LCARROLL@...>

>

> Hi Bev,

> The main reason I switched to Doxi was because of permanent grey marks

> that developed about 5 months into the minocin. If I would bang or cut

> myself , I would bruise with an ugly dark bruise and it would not fade for

> months. I then noticed after about three months these bruises were staying

> a grey color and would not fade anymore. Several wrote me that the

> discoloration was permanent . I have some very troublesome grey marks all

> over my legs now. Very noticable. It will take lazer surgery to have them

> removed at a handsome price!

> I had great success with the mincocin at first but I had begun to slip

> in both pain and in blood values. This was about the time the discoloration

> started so when I saw my rheumo he did not want me to take any more minocin

> as he was very unamused with the way my legs looked and told me to switch

> to doxi.

> The doxi has reacted in a TOTALLY different way as the mincoin. I never

> had a flare up with the mincoin except in my lungs ( and this was pretty

> severe). The doxi has caused a daily flare up for the past four months but

> has really helped with the lung problems that I was experiencing while on

> the minocin.

> I am better in many ways on the doxi. Incredible energy and health.

> Great sleeping and for the first time in YEARS I get up at 5:30 a.m. and I

> am awake and full of energy, not dragging around like I used to. I never

> was a morning person and now I as fuctioning like one! My mind is clearer

> and anxiety levels have dropped tremendously.

> In a strange wasy ( despite all of this pain) I feel the doxi will be

> the drug of choice for me in the long run as I feel it is really

> aggrevating the infections in the joints as where the mincocin didn't cause

> this flare up. I feel it is " geting down into the joints and really

> stirring things up " ! When I go see Dr. Franco in April I will know more.

> Sorry so long!

>

>

> healtherdible At 08:57 AM 2/27/99 -0500, you wrote:

> > would you share why you switched to Doxy. Were you having a setback

> >and is the dose the same. How long were you on the Minocin before you

> >switched. A lot of us right now are stuck and either going backwards or

> >not progressing.

> >

> >Thanks.

> >Hugs

> >

> >Bev

> > rheumatic hair loss

> >

> >

> >>From: M Carroll <LCARROLL@...>

> >>

> >>HI Mike,

> >> I have a head full of new hair since switching to the doxi from mincocin.

> >>My hair is the show piece of the beautyshop becasue they have never seen so

> >>much regrowth in such a short time. I had been losing hair by the handfuls

> >>when I was on mincoin. But I have a lot more pain since I switched...

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >>Come check out our brand new web site!

> >>

> >>Onelist: Making the Internet intimate

> >>

> >

> >

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It is really annoying to have a setback because you expect to keep getting

better. Someone recently mentioned February being a bad month for us and

that is probably part of the equation too. I am thinking of trying Doxy if

my gp will agree. No one treatment plan seems to work for everyone here

does it? But I had a bad flu over Christmas and took a month to get back on

my feet while everyone else in our house either never got it or had a mild

episode. Maybe I'm still not fully back to where I was before the flu. I

was easing off Metho at the time too, so I should try to build up my

immunity. There are so many things to consider and we are all in the same

boat driving by the seat of our pants.

Love

Bev

rheumatic hair loss

>> >

>> >

>> >>From: M Carroll <LCARROLL@...>

>> >>

>> >>HI Mike,

>> >> I have a head full of new hair since switching to the doxi from

mincocin.

>> >>My hair is the show piece of the beautyshop becasue they have never

seen so

>> >>much regrowth in such a short time. I had been losing hair by the

handfuls

>> >>when I was on mincoin. But I have a lot more pain since I switched...

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>>

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Hair loss is usually a hormonal imbalance thing; toxic metals cause

hormonal imbalances. But some other things do too. Also aging can

bring some hormonal changes that affect hair. For men, saw palmeta

reverses some adverse hormonal changes and MSM helps a lot of people;

but some have problem with it.

bernie

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maybe it's time to look into wigs, some are very nice these days and you

can't even tell. that must be hard. kathy in il

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Pam: eating low fat is not a problem i face. i love food and i love fatty foods, like steak and fatty fish....Pam <nannapam3103@...> wrote:

I tried a low fat diet once and after about a month my hair was coming out in huge clumps. I came across an article about low fat and hair loss and immediately added some fat back to my diet. My hair stopped falling out!Just my 2 cents! Pam

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All my endos and derms state that you need GOOD FATS for hair. Omega oils, olive oils, the good stuff. I went on a low fat diet for 18 months (eating less than 15 grams of fat per day) and little protein, and anemia. It caused some degree of permanent hair loss. Long term anorexia, low fat, protein, iron diets can cause follicular death. I was told I will get more regrowth but never be as dense as I once was. My lifestyle excellerated the process of involutionary alopecia (aging hair loss, every one gets this to a degree).

I was eating better but I've been sick lately, I must eat more. The last few days I've had a bowl of cereal and juice every day, that's it. I'm going to fry and egg and eat on orange now.janeVickie <gracie17db@...> wrote:

Pam: eating low fat is not a problem i face. i love food and i love fatty foods, like steak and fatty fish....Pam <nannapam3103@...> wrote: I tried a low fat diet once and after about a month my hair was coming out in huge clumps. I came across an article about low fat and hair loss and immediately added some fat back to my diet. My hair stopped falling out!Just my 2 cents! Pam

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Pam:

Your 2 cents is worth a lot here. Thanks for sharing. I had hair loss from the same thing but had multiple surgeries(6) too and two hormone disruptions from thyroid meds and HGH, so if you get "interuptions" it's hard to regrow hair.

Has your hair regrown?

Hey All, check out this website www.florisene.com

iron is essential to regrow hair. I take Vtiron C iron pills with l lysine.

janePam <nannapam3103@...> wrote:

I tried a low fat diet once and after about a month my hair was coming out in huge clumps. I came across an article about low fat and hair loss and immediately added some fat back to my diet. My hair stopped falling out!Just my 2 cents! Pam

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My hair came back pretty quickly after I went back to a normal diet.

But, with the implants came more hair loss. I've always had thin

hair, but it got to the point where I was losing a handful a day. I

thought it was normal until after getting them out. Now I lose in a

week what I was losing in a day! It's never been noticeable to

anyone but me though, thank God. I can't imagine what you all go

through. My best friend has hair loss in her family. She has

beautiful hair down to her butt. She's so afraid of losing it. So

far she doesn't have any signs, but her mom is nearly bald. It's so

sad. Is there something she can do even if it's hereditary?

Thanks!

Pam

> I tried a low fat diet once and after about a month my hair was

> coming out in huge clumps. I came across an article about low fat

> and hair loss and immediately added some fat back to my diet. My

> hair stopped falling out!

>

> Just my 2 cents!

>

> Pam

>

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>

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I agree that diets are not good for our bodies, or hair, nails etc. I

try to eat good, and usually don't have any problems getting enough

of things like protein, good carbs and oils. My biggest problem is a

sweet tooth! hee hee, I love sugar! I just have always been a

chocolate, cookie, pie kind of girl, now I just do it in moderation

and when i do it I get on my spinning bike or my eliptical and ride

for an hour. This week i have been really good though. We ate out at

applebees and they have a new weight watchers menu, good stuff, all

low calorie, I had shrimp and it was yummy! I LOVE SEAFOOD, that is

my favorite!You def need to get more protien and fat in your diet.

Get that virgin coconut oil by garden of life and melt it then put it

in a yummy protein shake, that is the best treat!

-C

In , Jane Doe <oceanlilly_csu@y...>

wrote:

> All my endos and derms state that you need GOOD FATS for hair.

Omega oils, olive oils, the good stuff. I went on a low fat diet for

18 months (eating less than 15 grams of fat per day) and little

protein, and anemia. It caused some degree of permanent hair loss.

Long term anorexia, low fat, protein, iron diets can cause follicular

death. I was told I will get more regrowth but never be as dense as I

once was. My lifestyle excellerated the process of involutionary

alopecia (aging hair loss, every one gets this to a degree).

>

> I was eating better but I've been sick lately, I must eat more. The

last few days I've had a bowl of cereal and juice every day, that's

it. I'm going to fry and egg and eat on orange now.

> jane

> Vickie <gracie17db@y...> wrote:

> Pam: eating low fat is not a problem i face. i love food and i

love fatty foods, like steak and fatty fish....

>

> Pam <nannapam3103@y...> wrote: I tried a low fat diet once and

after about a month my hair was

> coming out in huge clumps. I came across an article about low fat

> and hair loss and immediately added some fat back to my diet. My

> hair stopped falling out!

>

> Just my 2 cents!

>

> Pam

>

>

>

>

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Yes, I have and many more have too according to the surveys I receive.

Barth

TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

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aac> Hi, Has anyone experienced extreme hairloss due to mold?I have hip length

aac> hair  that is falling out in gobs.I am taking Fo-Ti (He Shu WU) but can not

use

aac> topical solutions due to MCS.After all I have lost my hairloss feels like

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Yes, I have and many more have too according to the surveys I receive.

Barth

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aac> hair  that is falling out in gobs.I am taking Fo-Ti (He Shu WU) but can not

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Yes. my hair fell out in goobs when I was expossed to the mold. You need

to get out of the house or building right away. and see Dr. Richie

Shoemaker in land.

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Yes. my hair fell out in goobs when I was expossed to the mold. You need

to get out of the house or building right away. and see Dr. Richie

Shoemaker in land.

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I understand that hair loss is a frequent complaint related to mold. I

just ran across a story of someone else who lost hair in big hunks at

the http://www.moldacrossamerica.org/ web site.

Judi

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> need

> to get out of the house or building right away. and see Dr. Richie

> Shoemaker in land.

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I understand that hair loss is a frequent complaint related to mold. I

just ran across a story of someone else who lost hair in big hunks at

the http://www.moldacrossamerica.org/ web site.

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> need

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> Shoemaker in land.

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>

> I've been having major hair loss over the past year. Trying to

> narrow down the causes. Has anyone had any hair loss and has it

been

> related to thier RA? I know my iron is low and that is a main

cause

> for women loosing thier hair at my age (34) but I've been taking a

> supplement for about 2 months now and I don't notice it stopping.

> Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. People/doctors are

> very insensitive to this is women and tend to minimize it.

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I have experienced major hair loss, over the last 2 years. I went

from hair to my waist and very thick, to almost nothing. I had to

finally cut it, because all I had was broken pieces of hair.

It's growing little at a time, but really don't know what was going

on. At the time, I was not on any meds, hadn't been diagnosed with

the RA, so No meds at all. It still falls out, some days more then

others. I never found out why. I was told that the RA doesn't cause

the hair loss.

>

>

> I've been having major hair loss over the past year. Trying to

> narrow down the causes. Has anyone had any hair loss and has it

been

> related to thier RA? I know my iron is low and that is a main

cause

> for women loosing thier hair at my age (34) but I've been taking a

> supplement for about 2 months now and I don't notice it stopping.

> Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. People/doctors are

> very insensitive to this is women and tend to minimize it.

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Mtx can cause hair loss as well. Another reason could be that you

are low on B-vitatmins. It's best to talk with your doc about it.

> >

> >

> > I've been having major hair loss over the past year. Trying to

> > narrow down the causes. Has anyone had any hair loss and has it

> been

> > related to thier RA? I know my iron is low and that is a main

> cause

> > for women loosing thier hair at my age (34) but I've been taking

a

> > supplement for about 2 months now and I don't notice it

stopping.

> > Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. People/doctors

are

> > very insensitive to this is women and tend to minimize it.

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The only thing I worry about with Nioxin is the harmful chemicals in it. I

try not to use any harmful chemicals at all anymore - whether it's on my body

or cleaning house. I wonder if there is a natural way to promote hair growth

and stop hair loss? If you detoxify your body and get your ph back to normal

along with getting candida under control - I wonder if hair loss would stop?

Just wondering....

God Bless,

ML

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The only thing I worry about with Nioxin is the harmful chemicals in it. I

try not to use any harmful chemicals at all anymore - whether it's on my body

or cleaning house. I wonder if there is a natural way to promote hair growth

and stop hair loss? If you detoxify your body and get your ph back to normal

along with getting candida under control - I wonder if hair loss would stop?

Just wondering....

God Bless,

ML

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Thanks to everyone who replied back. I'm thinking that my hair loss is

probably a severe allergic reaction. I'm now looking into NAET &

Bioset, but with the holidays lots of practitioners are unavailable to

answer my questions. At this point, I'm leaning towards Bioset.

--- In , " xhannahx24 " <xhannahx24@y...>

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> Hi all - been experiencing hair loss for the past 2 months (started

> developing severe allergy symptoms a couple of days after a hailstorm

> in October). Anyone have any suggestions for supplements? I've been

> taking Vitamin B Complex daily, but that doesn't seem to help.

>

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