Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

[Guest guest]

> I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

> radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

> anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It

> is what has been killing me in this house.

Are these cell towers all on the same side of the house? Perhaps you only

need to shield that one side of the house?

I take it that the Quantum Home did not help with this?

Marc

[Guest guest]

> > I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

> > radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

> > anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It

> > is what has been killing me in this house.

Also, for cellphone towers, I've read about people placing " orgonite

tower busters " near the offending tower. I don't have any personal

experience with this, nor do I recall anyone here having any success

with this. So it may not do anything. However, orgonite devices are

typically so cheap (less than $10) that it might be worth a try...

just do a Google search on " Orgonite " , " Holy Hand Grenades " (HHG),

" Tower Busters " , etc.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Here's one idea that could help. We had radiation coming through the wall

from our neighbours' cordless phones, wifi etc. We took the shielding

canopy for the bed (where it didn't help us much) and hung it along the

wall. It worked well and cut down the signal to almost nothing - at a

fraction of the cost and hassle of shielding paints, metals etc. Worth a

go?

Getting a school to move antennas, and getting anyone to accept their

effects, could take months or years. Doubt whether you'd find a lawyer who

would take it on -except for a fat fee - don't go there :-(

Ian

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Marc

Sent: 25 June 2008 22:40

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

> I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

> radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

> anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It

> is what has been killing me in this house.

Are these cell towers all on the same side of the house? Perhaps you only

need to shield that one side of the house?

I take it that the Quantum Home did not help with this?

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi Marc, Thanks for the reply.

 

No, I am returning the Quantum Home. Not what I really need here. Need some

shielding. The cell towers are on the back side of my house. I have a direct

view of all of them. They are on the light posts at the football stadium & I

thought they were part of the lighting. This was the worse house I could have

chosen. These anntennas are all over this area too because it is a busy

intersection.

 

The levels in the den which is in the front were too high for me also. Skin was

burning when I tried to sleep in there.

 

I was thinking about one side but the tint contractor usually does whole houses.

I need the back wall covered to so I am getting bids. But...you know....... this

shielding material is very expensive.

 

I would like get ideas on how to fight this & get them to move the darn killers.

 

Ideas on shielding are great too. I am looking in to the tint for windows & then

the screen material to line the back of the house with.

 

Now the rood is made of concrete tile so do you think it will be slower to get

through the roof????

 

Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 2:39 PM

> I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

> radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

> anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It

> is what has been killing me in this house.

Are these cell towers all on the same side of the house? Perhaps you only

need to shield that one side of the house?

I take it that the Quantum Home did not help with this?

Marc

[Guest guest]

How would you make sure they stayed there. They are on school property. Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 2:51 PM

> > I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

> > radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

> > anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It

> > is what has been killing me in this house.

Also, for cellphone towers, I've read about people placing " orgonite

tower busters " near the offending tower. I don't have any personal

experience with this, nor do I recall anyone here having any success

with this. So it may not do anything. However, orgonite devices are

typically so cheap (less than $10) that it might be worth a try...

just do a Google search on " Orgonite " , " Holy Hand Grenades " (HHG),

" Tower Busters " , etc.

Marc

[Guest guest]

> How would you make sure they stayed there. They are on school property.

As I recall, the orgonite devices only need to be near the towers (like,

within a 1/4 mile, although closer is better), so you could place them

somewhere just outside of the property. Also, you could bury them in

the ground or hide them in a bush where they'd likely not be moved.

But again, I don't think we have anyone here on this group who's done

this, so I don't know how well it would work for people with ES. I

just recall that these things are cheap, and have a certain following.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Ok thanks. Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 4:43 PM

> How would you make sure they stayed there. They are on school property.

As I recall, the orgonite devices only need to be near the towers (like,

within a 1/4 mile, although closer is better), so you could place them

somewhere just outside of the property. Also, you could bury them in

the ground or hide them in a bush where they'd likely not be moved.

But again, I don't think we have anyone here on this group who's done

this, so I don't know how well it would work for people with ES. I

just recall that these things are cheap, and have a certain following.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Loni,

I do live mostly in my tent; but because you shouldn't have to, this

article may inspire you to find an angle of attack.

From The Times

November 20, 2006

Health fears lead schools to dismantle wireless networks

# Radiation levels blamed for illnesses

# Teacher became too sick to work

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/education/article642575.ece

- in Philly

>

>

> Hi All, I need your help & direction:

>

> I had a Building Biologist come to my home to test due to my

electrical sensitivities. (Thank you Bob Grommes for the referral).

..

SNIP

..

> I could get better & get my life back if I could get them to move

these antennas.

>

> I have some pictures of me in this canopy. I am going to get letters

from my doctors to send to the superindendants.

>

> I would love to go around the neighborhood & find out who has had

medical problems but getting closer to the waves will be to dangerous

for me right now.

>

> Loni

[Guest guest]

Hello,

a faraday canopy is the very last thing we do recommend, because they

generally do have some disadvantages.

Some people cannot stand them and throw them away after a few weeks.

One disadvantage is, that the material is too close to the body, and

electrical fields are attracted by the material.

Also, something is happening with the air inside.

The best canopies however are those of ia. They do shield much more, do

not have this *air-thing*, but cost more.

We prefer shielding against SOME walls and windows.

And aluminium should be avoided.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Bitdefender

Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Hi All, I need your help & direction:

I had a Building Biologist come to my home to test due to my electrical

sensitivities. (Thank you Bob Grommes for the referral).

I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It is

what has been killing me in this house.

As a lot of you know I have progressively gotten worse since living in this

house & had resorted to sleeping at the park in my van & now that it got

hot; on top of my van. Then I go in to my house for as little time as

possible back out to a safe public place. Well, safer than my house I mean.

ha

The reading was 1000 times what the body can handle in my bedroom & my

kitchen & family room. My living areas. So being immune compromised as we

all are makes it much more harmful.

I called the superindendant of schools & they pretty much said tuff.

I am trying a faraday canopy from the biologist that keeps 99 % of the

radiation out. It works, my symptoms go away & I can now sleep in my bed.

However, I can not live in my bed. I know for sure it is the radiation from

these antennas however.

Shielding products are very expensive & times are tuff for us right now but

I am getting quotes.

I just can't afford to shield the whole house which is probably what is

needed for someone with MCS who may get more sensitive if I don't block it

all. Scary stuff.

Symtoms are: Headache, brain fog, no energy, pain in gut, nervous stress to

a huge degree, body frame weakness like I am going to break at any moment.

How can I get them to move these anntennas? Any ideas. Is there a lawyer

anyone knows that has a passion for this that might do Pro Bono?

I need help before this non stop radiation kills me.

I went to a friends last night in Gold Canyon. It was heaven to me. I could

breath. He said he drops calls all the time. I wasn't surprised.

I could get better & get my life back if I could get them to move these

antennas.

I have some pictures of me in this canopy. I am going to get letters from my

doctors to send to the superindendants.

I would love to go around the neighborhood & find out who has had medical

problems but getting closer to the waves will be to dangerous for me right

now.

Loni

[Guest guest]

Further thoughts. In the UK we can get metal woven fabric, the same

material as the faraday canopy but for much lower prices. This was good for

hanging on the inside of the walls to give shielding. (We used the faraday

canopy for this as wel in the end - as says, it may be of limited

use).

The biggest single gain comes from putting shielding netting over the

windows. The reason is that walls do tend to absorb and cut down the

microwave signal (as they contain water). British houses with thick brick

walls are good on this, US houses less so if they are only think wood

planking (though wood is a good absorber). But glass has no absorptive

power at all and lets the signal straight through. If you have an acoustic

meter and hold it by the wall and by a window, you should notice a big

difference! So shield the windows - like net curtains in appearance, but

metallised.

Best wishes, Ian and Sue

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Ian

Kemp

Sent: 25 June 2008 22:55

Subject: RE: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Here's one idea that could help. We had radiation coming through the wall

from our neighbours' cordless phones, wifi etc. We took the shielding

canopy for the bed (where it didn't help us much) and hung it along the

wall. It worked well and cut down the signal to almost nothing - at a

fraction of the cost and hassle of shielding paints, metals etc. Worth a

go?

Getting a school to move antennas, and getting anyone to accept their

effects, could take months or years. Doubt whether you'd find a lawyer who

would take it on -except for a fat fee - don't go there :-(

Ian

_____

From: groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com

[mailto:groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com] On Behalf

Of Marc

Sent: 25 June 2008 22:40

groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

> I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

> radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

> anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It

> is what has been killing me in this house.

Are these cell towers all on the same side of the house? Perhaps you only

need to shield that one side of the house?

I take it that the Quantum Home did not help with this?

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi Ian,

Do you have any explanation for why hanging the same material on the windows was

helpful, but when you made an enclosure (canopy) it was not? Maybe, it depends

on what you mean but not helpful?

Emil

RE: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

[Guest guest]

Hallo,

I had the chance to test one small orgonite device - tower buster - of about 7

cm in diameter. Attached to the metallic construction of a base station they may

work; buried in the ground even only 10 m away is not sufficient.

It needs a special technology, to do the neutralizing of this radiation from a

distance. Even this I would not prefer, because in the case of ES this often

would not be enough. This has to do with the very strong resonance ES-people

have for the causing scalar waves, usually stronger than the known neutralizing

devices. And this resonance is influenced greatly by distance. So a neutralizing

device best has to be attached to the tower.

dietrich gruen

-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung-----

Von: Loni Rosser <loni326@...>

An:

Verschickt: Do., 26. Jun. 2008, 1:54

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Ok thanks. Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 4:43 PM

> How would you make sure they stayed there. They are on school property.

As I recall, the orgonite devices only need to be near the towers (like,

within a 1/4 mile, although closer is better), so you could place them

somewhere just outside of the property. Also, you could bury them in

the ground or hide them in a bush where they'd likely not be moved.

But again, I don't think we have anyone here on this group who's done

this, so I don't know how well it would work for people with ES. I

just recall that these things are cheap, and have a certain following.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi

 

Have you been fighting to get the anntenna's removed? What is your story if you

don't mind sharing. My skin burns in this house. I don't have much time for a

change. I keep trying to figure out how to get out of here. I just don't know

what to do. Loni

From: prophit1970 <prophit1970@...>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 9:26 PM

Loni,

I do live mostly in my tent; but because you shouldn't have to, this

article may inspire you to find an angle of attack.

From The Times

November 20, 2006

Health fears lead schools to dismantle wireless networks

# Radiation levels blamed for illnesses

# Teacher became too sick to work

http://www.timesonl ine.co.uk/ tol/life_ and_style/ education/ article642575.

ece

- in Philly

>

>

> Hi All, I need your help & direction:

>

> I had a Building Biologist come to my home to test due to my

electrical sensitivities. (Thank you Bob Grommes for the referral).

..

SNIP

..

> I could get better & get my life back if I could get them to move

these antennas.

>

> I have some pictures of me in this canopy. I am going to get letters

from my doctors to send to the superindendants.

>

> I would love to go around the neighborhood & find out who has had

medical problems but getting closer to the waves will be to dangerous

for me right now.

>

> Loni

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

 

Is ia the fabric, do you have a good source of which to purchase these?

 

I would rather do the shielding of the house itself but it is so expensive.

 

I am concerned about reacting to the material.

 

I am having a reaction to the one I am trying. I think some radiation is getting

in.

 

Loni

From: charles <charles@...>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 11:30 PM

Hello,

a faraday canopy is the very last thing we do recommend, because they

generally do have some disadvantages.

Some people cannot stand them and throw them away after a few weeks.

One disadvantage is, that the material is too close to the body, and

electrical fields are attracted by the material.

Also, something is happening with the air inside.

The best canopies however are those of ia. They do shield much more, do

not have this *air-thing*, but cost more.

We prefer shielding against SOME walls and windows.

And aluminium should be avoided.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Bitdefender

Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Hi All, I need your help & direction:

I had a Building Biologist come to my home to test due to my electrical

sensitivities. (Thank you Bob Grommes for the referral).

I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It is

what has been killing me in this house.

As a lot of you know I have progressively gotten worse since living in this

house & had resorted to sleeping at the park in my van & now that it

got

hot; on top of my van. Then I go in to my house for as little time as

possible back out to a safe public place. Well, safer than my house I mean.

ha

The reading was 1000 times what the body can handle in my bedroom & my

kitchen & family room. My living areas. So being immune compromised as we

all are makes it much more harmful.

I called the superindendant of schools & they pretty much said tuff.

I am trying a faraday canopy from the biologist that keeps 99 % of the

radiation out. It works, my symptoms go away & I can now sleep in my bed.

However, I can not live in my bed. I know for sure it is the radiation from

these antennas however.

Shielding products are very expensive & times are tuff for us right now but

I am getting quotes.

I just can't afford to shield the whole house which is probably what is

needed for someone with MCS who may get more sensitive if I don't block it

all. Scary stuff.

Symtoms are: Headache, brain fog, no energy, pain in gut, nervous stress to

a huge degree, body frame weakness like I am going to break at any moment.

How can I get them to move these anntennas? Any ideas. Is there a lawyer

anyone knows that has a passion for this that might do Pro Bono?

I need help before this non stop radiation kills me.

I went to a friends last night in Gold Canyon. It was heaven to me. I could

breath. He said he drops calls all the time. I wasn't surprised.

I could get better & get my life back if I could get them to move these

antennas.

I have some pictures of me in this canopy. I am going to get letters from my

doctors to send to the superindendants.

I would love to go around the neighborhood & find out who has had medical

problems but getting closer to the waves will be to dangerous for me right

now.

Loni

[Guest guest]

Ian & Sue,

 

Thanks for this info. That gives me some hope. I am getting a quote on doing

tint on the windows. This tint is supposed to cut it down 99.5% is the claim.

 

Do you know anything about the tint?

 

My walls are wood frame with stucco. Must be some insulation in the walls too.

I'd like to avoid the walls but think because of my sensitivy I'll have to them

also.

 

Ok, I will shield the windows. I can't do it quick enough. I am suffering so

much here.

 

Loni

 

From: Ian Kemp <ianandsue.kemp@...>

Subject: RE: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 12:43 AM

Further thoughts. In the UK we can get metal woven fabric, the same

material as the faraday canopy but for much lower prices. This was good for

hanging on the inside of the walls to give shielding. (We used the faraday

canopy for this as wel in the end - as says, it may be of limited

use).

The biggest single gain comes from putting shielding netting over the

windows. The reason is that walls do tend to absorb and cut down the

microwave signal (as they contain water). British houses with thick brick

walls are good on this, US houses less so if they are only think wood

planking (though wood is a good absorber). But glass has no absorptive

power at all and lets the signal straight through. If you have an acoustic

meter and hold it by the wall and by a window, you should notice a big

difference! So shield the windows - like net curtains in appearance, but

metallised.

Best wishes, Ian and Sue

_____

From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:groups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Ian

Kemp

Sent: 25 June 2008 22:55

groups (DOT) com

Subject: RE: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Here's one idea that could help. We had radiation coming through the wall

from our neighbours' cordless phones, wifi etc. We took the shielding

canopy for the bed (where it didn't help us much) and hung it along the

wall. It worked well and cut down the signal to almost nothing - at a

fraction of the cost and hassle of shielding paints, metals etc. Worth a

go?

Getting a school to move antennas, and getting anyone to accept their

effects, could take months or years. Doubt whether you'd find a lawyer who

would take it on -except for a fat fee - don't go there :-(

Ian

_____

From: groups (DOT) <mailto:% 40groups. com> com

[mailto:@ groups. <mailto:% 40groups. com> com] On Behalf

Of Marc

Sent: 25 June 2008 22:40

groups (DOT) <mailto:% 40groups. com> com

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

> I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

> radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

> anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It

> is what has been killing me in this house.

Are these cell towers all on the same side of the house? Perhaps you only

need to shield that one side of the house?

I take it that the Quantum Home did not help with this?

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi there, So these antennas are on a light post at the school. How would I get

them on?

 

Loni

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

groups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 4:43 PM

> How would you make sure they stayed there. They are on school property.

As I recall, the orgonite devices only need to be near the towers (like,

within a 1/4 mile, although closer is better), so you could place them

somewhere just outside of the property. Also, you could bury them in

the ground or hide them in a bush where they'd likely not be moved.

But again, I don't think we have anyone here on this group who's done

this, so I don't know how well it would work for people with ES. I

just recall that these things are cheap, and have a certain following.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hello Loni,

The ia material can be seen at:

http://test1.contenttest.net/ia-Shield_en.shtml

I suppose, that you are in the USA.

Perhaps Lessemf does have this in their programm also.

I meant the ia canopies.

If you want to shield the walls and windows, other materials can be

considered.

Lessemf can supply the necessary materials.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Bitdefender

Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Hi All, I need your help & direction:

I had a Building Biologist come to my home to test due to my electrical

sensitivities. (Thank you Bob Grommes for the referral).

I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It is

what has been killing me in this house.

As a lot of you know I have progressively gotten worse since living in this

house & had resorted to sleeping at the park in my van & now that it

got

hot; on top of my van. Then I go in to my house for as little time as

possible back out to a safe public place. Well, safer than my house I mean.

ha

The reading was 1000 times what the body can handle in my bedroom & my

kitchen & family room. My living areas. So being immune compromised as we

all are makes it much more harmful.

I called the superindendant of schools & they pretty much said tuff.

I am trying a faraday canopy from the biologist that keeps 99 % of the

radiation out. It works, my symptoms go away & I can now sleep in my bed.

However, I can not live in my bed. I know for sure it is the radiation from

these antennas however.

Shielding products are very expensive & times are tuff for us right now but

I am getting quotes.

I just can't afford to shield the whole house which is probably what is

needed for someone with MCS who may get more sensitive if I don't block it

all. Scary stuff.

Symtoms are: Headache, brain fog, no energy, pain in gut, nervous stress to

a huge degree, body frame weakness like I am going to break at any moment.

How can I get them to move these anntennas? Any ideas. Is there a lawyer

anyone knows that has a passion for this that might do Pro Bono?

I need help before this non stop radiation kills me.

I went to a friends last night in Gold Canyon. It was heaven to me. I could

breath. He said he drops calls all the time. I wasn't surprised.

I could get better & get my life back if I could get them to move these

antennas.

I have some pictures of me in this canopy. I am going to get letters from my

doctors to send to the superindendants.

I would love to go around the neighborhood & find out who has had medical

problems but getting closer to the waves will be to dangerous for me right

now.

Loni

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know about the roof?  I have a concrete tile roof. The tiles are

about an inch thick. Will the radiation get through them? 

 

I am getting a bid on these square screens to put up on the outside wall of the

house where it is coming in the worse.  Loni

From: Ian Kemp <ianandsue.kemp@...>

Subject: RE: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 12:43 AM

Further thoughts. In the UK we can get metal woven fabric, the same

material as the faraday canopy but for much lower prices. This was good for

hanging on the inside of the walls to give shielding. (We used the faraday

canopy for this as wel in the end - as says, it may be of limited

use).

The biggest single gain comes from putting shielding netting over the

windows. The reason is that walls do tend to absorb and cut down the

microwave signal (as they contain water). British houses with thick brick

walls are good on this, US houses less so if they are only think wood

planking (though wood is a good absorber). But glass has no absorptive

power at all and lets the signal straight through. If you have an acoustic

meter and hold it by the wall and by a window, you should notice a big

difference! So shield the windows - like net curtains in appearance, but

metallised.

Best wishes, Ian and Sue

_____

From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:groups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Ian

Kemp

Sent: 25 June 2008 22:55

groups (DOT) com

Subject: RE: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Here's one idea that could help. We had radiation coming through the wall

from our neighbours' cordless phones, wifi etc. We took the shielding

canopy for the bed (where it didn't help us much) and hung it along the

wall. It worked well and cut down the signal to almost nothing - at a

fraction of the cost and hassle of shielding paints, metals etc. Worth a

go?

Getting a school to move antennas, and getting anyone to accept their

effects, could take months or years. Doubt whether you'd find a lawyer who

would take it on -except for a fat fee - don't go there :-(

Ian

_____

From: groups (DOT) <mailto:% 40groups. com> com

[mailto:@ groups. <mailto:% 40groups. com> com] On Behalf

Of Marc

Sent: 25 June 2008 22:40

groups (DOT) <mailto:% 40groups. com> com

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

> I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

> radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

> anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It

> is what has been killing me in this house.

Are these cell towers all on the same side of the house? Perhaps you only

need to shield that one side of the house?

I take it that the Quantum Home did not help with this?

Marc

[Guest guest]

Yes I am in the USA. Where are you?

 

I would rather shield the house than to have a canopy but it is so expensive.

I'll look into this. Thank you so much charles.

 

Loni

From: charles <charles@...>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 11:30 PM

Hello,

a faraday canopy is the very last thing we do recommend, because they

generally do have some disadvantages.

Some people cannot stand them and throw them away after a few weeks.

One disadvantage is, that the material is too close to the body, and

electrical fields are attracted by the material.

Also, something is happening with the air inside.

The best canopies however are those of ia. They do shield much more, do

not have this *air-thing*, but cost more.

We prefer shielding against SOME walls and windows.

And aluminium should be avoided.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

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Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Hi All, I need your help & direction:

I had a Building Biologist come to my home to test due to my electrical

sensitivities. (Thank you Bob Grommes for the referral).

I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It is

what has been killing me in this house.

As a lot of you know I have progressively gotten worse since living in this

house & had resorted to sleeping at the park in my van & now that it

got

hot; on top of my van. Then I go in to my house for as little time as

possible back out to a safe public place. Well, safer than my house I mean.

ha

The reading was 1000 times what the body can handle in my bedroom & my

kitchen & family room. My living areas. So being immune compromised as we

all are makes it much more harmful.

I called the superindendant of schools & they pretty much said tuff.

I am trying a faraday canopy from the biologist that keeps 99 % of the

radiation out. It works, my symptoms go away & I can now sleep in my bed.

However, I can not live in my bed. I know for sure it is the radiation from

these antennas however.

Shielding products are very expensive & times are tuff for us right now but

I am getting quotes.

I just can't afford to shield the whole house which is probably what is

needed for someone with MCS who may get more sensitive if I don't block it

all. Scary stuff.

Symtoms are: Headache, brain fog, no energy, pain in gut, nervous stress to

a huge degree, body frame weakness like I am going to break at any moment.

How can I get them to move these anntennas? Any ideas. Is there a lawyer

anyone knows that has a passion for this that might do Pro Bono?

I need help before this non stop radiation kills me.

I went to a friends last night in Gold Canyon. It was heaven to me. I could

breath. He said he drops calls all the time. I wasn't surprised.

I could get better & get my life back if I could get them to move these

antennas.

I have some pictures of me in this canopy. I am going to get letters from my

doctors to send to the superindendants.

I would love to go around the neighborhood & find out who has had medical

problems but getting closer to the waves will be to dangerous for me right

now.

Loni

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/26/2008 5:14:18 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,

loni326@... writes:

Does anyone know about the roof? I have a concrete tile roof. The tiles are

about an inch thick. Will the radiation get through them?

I am getting a bid on these square screens to put up on the outside wall of

the house where it is coming in the worse. Loni

Depending on frequencies involved and other factors allowing for a certain

amount of absorption microwave radiation will penetrate the tiles after all

they have gaps where the grout is they will also have many interstices where

the waves will find their way through.

[Guest guest]

Is there a US distributor for ia? I don't see one on google. Loni

From: charles <charles@...>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 11:30 PM

Hello,

a faraday canopy is the very last thing we do recommend, because they

generally do have some disadvantages.

Some people cannot stand them and throw them away after a few weeks.

One disadvantage is, that the material is too close to the body, and

electrical fields are attracted by the material.

Also, something is happening with the air inside.

The best canopies however are those of ia. They do shield much more, do

not have this *air-thing*, but cost more.

We prefer shielding against SOME walls and windows.

And aluminium should be avoided.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Bitdefender

Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Hi All, I need your help & direction:

I had a Building Biologist come to my home to test due to my electrical

sensitivities. (Thank you Bob Grommes for the referral).

I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It is

what has been killing me in this house.

As a lot of you know I have progressively gotten worse since living in this

house & had resorted to sleeping at the park in my van & now that it

got

hot; on top of my van. Then I go in to my house for as little time as

possible back out to a safe public place. Well, safer than my house I mean.

ha

The reading was 1000 times what the body can handle in my bedroom & my

kitchen & family room. My living areas. So being immune compromised as we

all are makes it much more harmful.

I called the superindendant of schools & they pretty much said tuff.

I am trying a faraday canopy from the biologist that keeps 99 % of the

radiation out. It works, my symptoms go away & I can now sleep in my bed.

However, I can not live in my bed. I know for sure it is the radiation from

these antennas however.

Shielding products are very expensive & times are tuff for us right now but

I am getting quotes.

I just can't afford to shield the whole house which is probably what is

needed for someone with MCS who may get more sensitive if I don't block it

all. Scary stuff.

Symtoms are: Headache, brain fog, no energy, pain in gut, nervous stress to

a huge degree, body frame weakness like I am going to break at any moment.

How can I get them to move these anntennas? Any ideas. Is there a lawyer

anyone knows that has a passion for this that might do Pro Bono?

I need help before this non stop radiation kills me.

I went to a friends last night in Gold Canyon. It was heaven to me. I could

breath. He said he drops calls all the time. I wasn't surprised.

I could get better & get my life back if I could get them to move these

antennas.

I have some pictures of me in this canopy. I am going to get letters from my

doctors to send to the superindendants.

I would love to go around the neighborhood & find out who has had medical

problems but getting closer to the waves will be to dangerous for me right

now.

Loni

[Guest guest]

Yes, contact www.kaltmancreations.com

Emil

> Is there a US distributor for ia? I don't see one on google. Loni

[Guest guest]

Microwaves can travel around shielding like liquid.

You have to totally seal the room or it will leak and bounce around

inside.

Shielding can also resonate with the frequencies and cause a

detrimental effect in the room.

Earth grounding can pull frequencies into the room.

All doom and gloom? Are we totally fu..,ked?

After thousands of dollars, I have been unsuccessful in shielding my

bedroom from WiFi, TV towers, Cell Towers or Radar.

Yes they are diminished on the meters, but after painting the room with

Copper paint (grounded) and putting two different layers of fabric over

the windows, I feel worse in their and consequently have made the room

worse. I now sleep in another room of the house.

Now if I were in a really bad area like it seems you are, yes, some

shielding could help get the readings and hopefully the sensations

down.

I recommend moving.

Good luck.

I turn off the power at night and sleep on an organic foam mattress.

On Jun 26, 2008, at 5:20 PM, paulpjc@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 6/26/2008 5:14:18 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,

> loni326@... writes:

>

> Does anyone know about the roof? I have a concrete tile roof. The

> tiles are

> about an inch thick. Will the radiation get through them?

>

> I am getting a bid on these square screens to put up on the outside

> wall of

> the house where it is coming in the worse. Loni

>

>

>

> Depending on frequencies involved and other factors allowing for a

> certain

> amount of absorption microwave radiation will penetrate the tiles

> after all

> they have gaps where the grout is they will also have many interstices

> where

> the waves will find their way through.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I recommend moving.

Yes, that was my initial recommendation, but I think Loni

cannot afford that -- it can cost a lot of money to move.

Although it can also cost a lot of money to shield...

Marc

[Guest guest]

> Yes they are diminished on the meters, but after painting the room with

> Copper paint (grounded) and putting two different layers of fabric over

> the windows, I feel worse in their and consequently have made the room

> worse.

Yes, this is why I'd be reluctant to do anything that cannot be

" undone " easily. There is just too much risk of making the place

worse than it was already.

Marc