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Thanks a lot, i will definitely read through the mails.

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From: Sindhu Kan <sindhukan@...>Subject: (unknown)Autism Treatment Date: Monday, 30 August, 2010, 22:13

Hi,

My 3 1/2 year old daughter who is diagnosed with autism, grinds her teeth quite frequently andclose her ears while watching some tv programmeat the same time make some sound to avoid hearing or watching the programme. We finished AIT(auditory integration treatment) from sound learning centre couple of days back, but nothing seems to be working.

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Thanks ken for the information, i will definitely get her checked for williams syndrome. I had no clue about it. Thanks once again.

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From: Sindhu Kan <sindhukan@...>Subject: (unknown)Autism Treatment Date: Monday, 30 August, 2010, 22:13

Hi,

My 3 1/2 year old daughter who is diagnosed with autism, grinds her teeth quite frequently andclose her ears while watching some tv programmeat the same time make some sound to avoid hearing or watching the programme. We finished AIT(auditory integration treatment) from sound learning centre couple of days back, but nothing seems to be working.

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Hi

sorry to cut in late, my internet has been down for 6 days, grrr! My son Harry used to grind his teeth, we added in magnesium & B6 and he no longer grinds his teeth.

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Autism Treatment From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:08:36 -0400Subject: Re: (unknown)

>>Sometimes you don't see the benefit of AIT for a few weeks or even months. Teeth grinding maybe low minerals I think but mind is foggy on that

Mandi x

Hi,

My 3 1/2 year old daughter who is diagnosed with autism, grinds her teeth quite frequently andclose her ears while watching some tv programmeat the same time make some sound to avoid hearing or watching the programme. We finished AIT(auditory integration treatment) from sound learning centre couple of days back, but nothing seems to be working.

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On 31 August 2010 08:17, Sindhu Kan <sindhukan@...> wrote:

Thanks for replying, her x fragile came out negative. She has lot of antimony toxicity in her blood and very few good bacteria.

Hmm this is interesting as I've been a tooth grinder for sometime now and my hairtest showed high antimony as well.  

She is on mild TD-DMPS,

i dont understand how is TD-DMPS mild? Which dose is this please? Has to be taken every 8 hours. 

glutathione,probiotics,prebiotics and nutritional supplements.

Have any of the supplements that you give your daughter changed since the teeth grinding issue came up? Some patients react badly to glutathione and need milk thistle or something more gentle instead. Could you list what she is on and the doses please?

" children with starving brains " has excellent supplement mineral levels for autistics. However the DAN! protocol is less effective than the AC one which i have been following for the past 3 months.

Just because your child is non verbal doesn't mean the professionals have to pass her off as being unable to communicate. Non verbal communication does exist, the bruxism for example is communicating something to you.

Are you on a b12 protocol? Some parents find that helps their kids to speak. For me it helped me find the words and remember what i was going to say (so i interrupted less) than pre b12.-- is

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On 31 August 2010 09:37, Sindhu Kan <sindhukan@...> wrote:

Last month we started with 5 drops for 3 days,then 11 days off, then 3 days 5 drops, yesterday i started with 10 drops for 2 weeks same amount then increase upto 15 drops.

After that We have to get her blood test done again to find out how much more antimony toxicity is left.i dont know who advised you about this protocol but it could do more harm than good. DMPS is taken every 8 hours day and night for at least 52 hours (i think)? Trying to research and double check.

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On 31 August 2010 12:19, KEN AITKEN <drken.aitken@...> wrote:

Hi Sindhu,

 

did she get checked for syndrome? The gene locus is 7q11.23. There is typically a cardiac issue (SVAS), characteristic dental malformation, and short stature.

It doesn't cause muteness though? -- is

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On 31 August 2010 18:23, michelle lacey <michelle0471@...> wrote:

Hi

 

sorry to cut in late, my internet has been down for 6 days, grrr! My son Harry used to grind his teeth, we added in magnesium & B6 and he no longer grinds his teeth.Ah sounds good, in that case sounds like a muscle or anxiety reason?

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On 31 August 2010 18:23, michelle lacey <michelle0471@...> wrote:

Hi

 

sorry to cut in late, my internet has been down for 6 days, grrr! My son Harry used to grind his teeth, we added in magnesium & B6 and he no longer grinds his teeth.Ah sounds good, in that case sounds like a muscle or anxiety reason?

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On 31 August 2010 18:23, michelle lacey <michelle0471@...> wrote:

Hi

 

sorry to cut in late, my internet has been down for 6 days, grrr! My son Harry used to grind his teeth, we added in magnesium & B6 and he no longer grinds his teeth.Ah sounds good, in that case sounds like a muscle or anxiety reason?

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Good point, is! I know a young woman with Syndrome and she talks a

lot - it's typical of the syndrome that they are very chatty.

Margaret

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> > did she get checked for syndrome? The gene locus is 7q11.23. There

> > is typically a cardiac issue (SVAS), characteristic dental malformation, and

> > short stature.

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On 31 August 2010 20:43, Margaret <m.collins9@...> wrote:

> Good point, is! I know a young woman with Syndrome and she talks

a lot - it's typical of the syndrome that they are very chatty.

> Margaret

In some respects they are the opposite to aspergers. They tend to have

below average intelligence, be very socially adept

and have excellent theory of mind.

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Hello

Just found out TD-DMPS has to be taken at least 3 days and 2 nights.

Also has to be dosed every 8 hours.

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Does he spend much time online?  That can be a place to meet others

with similar interests.  I think my son spends more time talking to

his friends online than in person.

On 1/09/2010 9:38 AM, Candy Crouch wrote:

 

Does anyone in this group live in Visalia Ca or

somewhere nearby. My son is 15 and wants desperately to

find someone who understands him and what he is going

thru everyday. He has "normal friends", but they just

are not close, more like aquaintances who tolerate him,

they are nice boys, but he has no "real" friends.

Thanks 

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Your son spends more time talking to his friends online than in person?

blog URL: http://verte76.blogspot.com/

From: Riley <klriley@...>Autism and Aspergers Treatment Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 7:35:02 PMSubject: Re: (unknown)

Does he spend much time online? That can be a place to meet others with similar interests. I think my son spends more time talking to his friends online than in person.On 1/09/2010 9:38 AM, Candy Crouch wrote:

Does anyone in this group live in Visalia Ca or somewhere nearby. My son is 15 and wants desperately to find someone who understands him and what he is going thru everyday. He has "normal friends", but they just are not close, more like aquaintances who tolerate him, they are nice boys, but he has no "real" friends. Thanks

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Yes.  At school he spends most of his time either in the library or

the computer lab.  He is getting better at talking to people, but he

says little to them at school, then comes home and spends time

chatting to them.  He has also just recently started using

facebook.  When he brings friends home they talk very little as they

are too busy playing games.

On 1/09/2010 10:39 AM, Hefner wrote:

 

Your son spends more time talking to his friends

online than in person?

 

blog URL: http://verte76.blogspot.com/

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Riley <klriley@...>

To:

Autism and Aspergers Treatment

Sent:

Tue, August 31, 2010 7:35:02 PM

Subject:

Re: (unknown)

 

Does he spend much time online?  That can be a

place to meet others with similar interests.  I

think my son spends more time talking to his

friends online than in person.

On 1/09/2010 9:38 AM, Candy Crouch wrote:

 

Does anyone in this group live in Visalia

Ca or somewhere nearby. My son is 15 and

wants desperately to find someone who

understands him and what he is going thru

everyday. He has "normal friends", but they

just are not close, more like aquaintances

who tolerate him, they are nice boys, but he

has no "real" friends. Thanks 

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I spend time online alot.

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similar interests. I think my son spends more time talking to his friends online

than in person.

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> Does anyone in this group live in Visalia Ca or somewhere nearby. My son is

15 and wants desperately to find someone who understands him and what he is

going thru everyday. He has " normal friends " , but they just are not close, more

like aquaintances who tolerate him, they are nice boys, but he has no " real "

friends. Thanks

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At school he spends most of his time either in the library or the computer lab?

blog URL: http://verte76.blogspot.com/

From: Riley <klriley@...>Autism and Aspergers Treatment Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 8:02:14 PMSubject: Re: (unknown)

Yes. At school he spends most of his time either in the library or the computer lab. He is getting better at talking to people, but he says little to them at school, then comes home and spends time chatting to them. He has also just recently started using facebook. When he brings friends home they talk very little as they are too busy playing games.On 1/09/2010 10:39 AM, Hefner wrote:

Your son spends more time talking to his friends online than in person?

blog URL: http://verte76.blogspot.com/

From: Riley <klriley@...>Autism and Aspergers Treatment Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 7:35:02 PMSubject: Re: (unknown)

Does he spend much time online? That can be a place to meet others with similar interests. I think my son spends more time talking to his friends online than in person.On 1/09/2010 9:38 AM, Candy Crouch wrote:

Does anyone in this group live in Visalia Ca or somewhere nearby. My son is 15 and wants desperately to find someone who understands him and what he is going thru everyday. He has "normal friends", but they just are not close, more like aquaintances who tolerate him, they are nice boys, but he has no "real" friends. Thanks

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The question for me is " Is your son happy? " Does he enjoy spending time in the

library and computer lab? Is he satisfied with the social contact he has after

school and online? Some children on the spectrum are perfectly happy with this

level of interaction. They love their intellectual pursuits, and tend to avoid

emotional relating. They enjoy interacting around their common interests or

intellectual pursuits, and feel more comfortable relating online where they do

not have to regulate the nonverbal pragmatics of face to face relating. In

other words they often feel more comfortable with intellectual interaction,

rather then emotional interaction. That's ok. As long as they learn to live

and work along side of others, they will do just fine.

Bill

> >

> >> Does anyone in this group live in Visalia Ca or somewhere nearby. My

> >> son is 15 and wants desperately to find someone who understands him

> >> and what he is going thru everyday. He has " normal friends " , but they

> >> just are not close, more like aquaintances who tolerate him, they are

> >> nice boys, but he has no " real " friends. Thanks

> >>

> >

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Sometimes it's hard, as a parent, to see that.

Francine

Speak with Him Thou for He hearest.

Spirit with Spirit can speak.

Closer is Love than breathing,

Nearer than hands and feet.

(with appreciation for Tennyson)

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Does anyone in this group live in Visalia Ca or somewhere nearby. My son is 15 and wants desperately to find someone who understands him and what he is going thru everyday. He has "normal friends", but they just are not close, more like aquaintances who tolerate him, they are nice boys, but he has no "real" friends. Thanks

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My son longs for someone to be a real friend to him. He had it once, but the boy moved away several years ago and we lost contact with him, they were exactly the same and were inseprable. He misses him terribly and I had tried to contact his family but I think they may moved again, they had moved about an hour away. They kept in contact for a couple of years, but they seem to disappeared now. He still stays that he is the only true friend he ever had, and its sad, he just wont let it go and move on. He seems happy most of the time, but I don't like for him to be online alot, I monitor it closely because in the past I have found him on some questionable sites and he looks for gaming cheat codes alot and we got a virus one time that wiped out our computer. I would actually prefer

for him to have real life friends, and he would too, if he could only find someone he could realte to. He is very talented at drawing, and likes yugioh and dragons, and pokemon, but we have tried to discourage the pokemon, he gets too obsessed with it.

From: Bill <nasonbill@...>Autism and Aspergers Treatment Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 6:51:11 PMSubject: Re: (unknown)

The question for me is "Is your son happy?" Does he enjoy spending time in the library and computer lab? Is he satisfied with the social contact he has after school and online? Some children on the spectrum are perfectly happy with this level of interaction. They love their intellectual pursuits, and tend to avoid emotional relating. They enjoy interacting around their common interests or intellectual pursuits, and feel more comfortable relating online where they do not have to regulate the nonverbal pragmatics of face to face relating. In other words they often feel more comfortable with intellectual interaction, rather then emotional interaction. That's ok. As long as they learn to live and work along side of others, they will do just fine.Bill> >> >> Does anyone in this group live in Visalia Ca or somewhere nearby. My > >> son is 15 and wants desperately to find someone who understands him > >> and what he is going thru everyday. He has "normal friends", but they > >> just are not close, more like aquaintances who tolerate him, they are > >> nice boys, but he has no "real"

friends. Thanks> >>> >>

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It's not a bad thing. My son as more online friends than real life friends. at least it's social interaction of a type. MarilynFrom: Hefner <hefnerpatriciahefnerpatricia@...>To:

Autism and Aspergers Treatment Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 8:39:24 PMSubject: Re: (unknown)

Your son spends more time talking to his friends online than in person?

blog URL: http://verte76.blogspot.com/

From: Riley <klriley@...>Autism and Aspergers Treatment Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 7:35:02 PMSubject: Re: (unknown)

Does he spend much time online? That can be a place to meet others with similar interests. I think my son spends more time talking to his friends online than in person.On 1/09/2010 9:38 AM, Candy Crouch wrote:

Does anyone in this group live in Visalia Ca or somewhere nearby. My son is 15 and wants desperately to find someone who understands him and what he is going thru everyday. He has "normal friends", but they just are not close, more like aquaintances who tolerate him, they are nice boys, but he has no "real" friends. Thanks

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Ben is happy with things the way they are.  The other kids accept

him as he is.  He can work with people when he has to, so we don't

worry too much about how he wants to organise his social life.  He

is spending more time with people as he gets older.

On 1/09/2010 11:51 AM, Bill wrote:

 

The question for me is "Is your son happy?" Does he enjoy

spending time in the library and computer lab? Is he

satisfied with the social contact he has after school and

online? Some children on the spectrum are perfectly happy

with this level of interaction. They love their

intellectual pursuits, and tend to avoid emotional

relating. They enjoy interacting around their common

interests or intellectual pursuits, and feel more

comfortable relating online where they do not have to

regulate the nonverbal pragmatics of face to face

relating. In other words they often feel more comfortable

with intellectual interaction, rather then emotional

interaction. That's ok. As long as they learn to live and

work along side of others, they will do just fine.

Bill

> >

> >> Does anyone in this group live in Visalia Ca

or somewhere nearby. My

> >> son is 15 and wants desperately to find

someone who understands him

> >> and what he is going thru everyday. He has

"normal friends", but they

> >> just are not close, more like aquaintances

who tolerate him, they are

> >> nice boys, but he has no "real" friends.

Thanks

> >>

> >

>

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Ben has always spent time looking for cheat codes.  That is one

reason we got him his own computer.  He has a limit on how much time

he can spend online.  I check on where he is going online, but his

mother has stopped doing so as she really doesn't want to know.  She

can't see the attraction of gaming.  He knows if he gets caught

going to porn sites he is in big trouble.  He's told us not to worry

as he knows how to surf the web without leaving tracks :)  Sometimes

I think it would be somewhat comforting if he would take time to

look for porn rather than always focusing on gaming.

On 1/09/2010 12:27 PM, Candy Crouch wrote:

 

My son longs for someone to be a real friend to him.

He had it once, but the boy moved away several years

ago and we lost contact with him, they were exactly the

same and were inseprable. He misses him terribly and I

had tried to contact his family but I think they may

moved again, they had moved about an hour away. They

kept in contact for a couple of years, but they seem to

disappeared now. He still stays that he is the only true

friend he ever had, and its sad, he just wont  let it go

and move on. He seems happy most of the time, but I

don't like for him to be online alot, I monitor it

closely because in the past I have found him on some

questionable sites and he looks for gaming cheat codes

alot and we got a virus one time that wiped out our

computer. I would actually prefer for him to have real

life friends, and he would too, if he could only find

someone he could realte to. He is very talented at

drawing, and likes yugioh and dragons, and pokemon, but

we have tried to discourage the pokemon, he gets too

obsessed with it.

From:

Bill <nasonbill@...>

To:

Autism and Aspergers Treatment

Sent:

Tue, August 31, 2010 6:51:11 PM

Subject:

Re: (unknown)

 

The question for me is "Is your son happy?" Does

he enjoy spending time in the library and computer

lab? Is he satisfied with the social contact he

has after school and online? Some children on the

spectrum are perfectly happy with this level of

interaction. They love their intellectual

pursuits, and tend to avoid emotional relating.

They enjoy interacting around their common

interests or intellectual pursuits, and feel more

comfortable relating online where they do not have

to regulate the nonverbal pragmatics of face to

face relating. In other words they often feel more

comfortable with intellectual interaction, rather

then emotional interaction. That's ok. As long as

they learn to live and work along side of others,

they will do just fine.

Bill

> >

> >> Does anyone in this group live in

Visalia Ca or somewhere nearby. My

> >> son is 15 and wants desperately to

find someone who understands him

> >> and what he is going thru everyday.

He has "normal friends", but they

> >> just are not close, more like

aquaintances who tolerate him, they are

> >> nice boys, but he has no "real"

friends. Thanks

> >>

> >

>

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a really excellent computer monitoring software is webwatcherdata.com. Not the cheapest out there, but very very effective and pretty much hack-proof by teenagers. You can approve all, nothing, or in-between, and also monitor texts, emails, and now they even have a cell phone version. I've used it for 7 years and can HIGHLY recommend it.My 9 year old is totally into Pokemon-- he can probably name all 400 of them. He loves Japanese Dragons too. This summer it's all things Wizards & Hogwarts. MarilynFrom: Candy Crouch <dclecrouch@...>Autism and Aspergers Treatment Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 10:27:57 PMSubject: Re: Re: (unknown)

My son longs for someone to be a real friend to him. He had it once, but the boy moved away several years ago and we lost contact with him, they were exactly the same and were inseprable. He misses him terribly and I had tried to contact his family but I think they may moved again, they had moved about an hour away. They kept in contact for a couple of years, but they seem to disappeared now. He still stays that he is the only true friend he ever had, and its sad, he just wont let it go and move on. He seems happy most of the time, but I don't like for him to be online alot, I monitor it closely because in the past I have found him on some questionable sites and he looks for gaming cheat codes alot and we got a virus one time that wiped out our computer. I would actually prefer

for him to have real life friends, and he would too, if he could only find someone he could realte to. He is very talented at drawing, and likes yugioh and dragons, and pokemon, but we have tried to discourage the pokemon, he gets too obsessed with it.

From: Bill <nasonbill@...>Autism and Aspergers Treatment Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 6:51:11 PMSubject: Re: (unknown)

The question for me is "Is your son happy?" Does he enjoy spending time in the library and computer lab? Is he satisfied with the social contact he has after school and online? Some children on the spectrum are perfectly happy with this level of interaction. They love their intellectual pursuits, and tend to avoid emotional relating. They enjoy interacting around their common interests or intellectual pursuits, and feel more comfortable relating online where they do not have to regulate the nonverbal pragmatics of face to face relating. In other words they often feel more comfortable with intellectual interaction, rather then emotional interaction. That's ok. As long as they learn to live and work along side of others, they will do just fine.Bill> >> >> Does anyone in this group live in Visalia Ca or somewhere nearby. My > >> son is 15 and wants desperately to find someone who understands him > >> and what he is going thru everyday. He has "normal friends", but they > >> just are not close, more like aquaintances

who tolerate him, they are > >> nice boys, but he has no "real"

friends. Thanks> >>> >>

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Most people with WS are relativelyt good verbally - books often talk about 'cocktail party chatter', but this is the stereotype. There are cases described with 'elective mutism'. Similarly not all peoplec with WS have a learning difficulty - some score out with good average figures on IQ tests.Ken

> Good point, is! I know a young woman with Syndrome and she talks a lot - it's typical of the syndrome that they are very chatty.

> Margaret

In some respects they are the opposite to aspergers. They tend to have

below average intelligence, be very socially adept

and have excellent theory of mind.

--

is

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