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Hi ,

You can post your results to the list. Tracey is an expert at reading and

interpreting the results. I always show her mine and get her opinion. I tend

to look at the WBC and Platelets first and breath a sigh of relief when they

are in the normal range.

Zavie

Zavie (age 71)

67 Shoreham Avenue

Ottawa, Canada, K2G 3X3

dxd AUG/99

INF OCT/99 to FEB/00, CHF

No meds FEB/00 to JAN/01

Gleevec since MAR/27/01 (400 mg)

CCR SEP/01. #102 in Zero Club

2.8 log reduction Sep/05

3.0 log reduction Jan/06

2.9 log reduction Feb/07

3.6 log reduction Apr/08

3.6 log reduction Sep/08

3.7 log reduction Jan/09

3.8 log reduction May/09

3.8 log reduction Aug/09

4.0 log reduction Dec/09

e-mail: zmiller@...

Tel: 613-726-1117

Fax: 613-482-4801

Cell: 613-282-0204

ID: zaviem

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Sent: December 21, 2009 11:12 PM

Subject: [ ] (unknown)

Thanks y'all...I sent Zavie some numbers on my bloodwork from Sept so

hopefully he can tell me more than the Drs are telling me. I'm sorry, I just

don't understand all this stuff. It's all foreign language to me. Maybe he

can help me understand it more. Keeping my fingers crossed!

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Besides the usual are you eating protein, veg, fruit, then starch, healthy oils, etc. does she separate solids, fluids, does she chew carefully? Maybe she won't come, I've found that referrals for long-term patients from different programs have a high no-show rate, June, Vista WLS, Waukegan, IL

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Hello everyone,

I was hoping to run this case by the rest of the group and get some feedback. I just received a call from a woman who had bypass surgery 20 years ago. She is complaining of severe N/V/D which she has had ever since her surgery. She says she has eliminated dairy from her diet, she does not eat red meat, but she does drink coffee and regular soda (possibly dumping?). She says she never eats more than what fits on a small salad plate and that it can take her up to one hour to eat that amount. I've scheduled an appointment to meet with her on Monday the 28th. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can best help her problem solve?

Thank you in advance and happy holidays!

Amber Seewald, RD

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I apologize for this, my e-mail address has been hijacked twice in the last

couple of weeks. My virus scan catches it before it's open but apparently others

haven't. another friend of mine had the same thing happen.

H.

(unknown)

Suspend sunshinebeaches3@...

sunshinebeaches3@... on suspicion of Spyware and referring to possible

armful program.

This link is nothing but trash that I seen while surfing website.

The Virus Scanner is a hoax and shouldn't be heed.

When it ask you if you want to stay on the webpage? You are suppose to click on

ancel because it is a trick question just to get you stay on the website.

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I apologize for this, my e-mail address has been hijacked twice in the last

couple of weeks. My virus scan catches it before it's open but apparently others

haven't. another friend of mine had the same thing happen.

H.

(unknown)

Suspend sunshinebeaches3@...

sunshinebeaches3@... on suspicion of Spyware and referring to possible

armful program.

This link is nothing but trash that I seen while surfing website.

The Virus Scanner is a hoax and shouldn't be heed.

When it ask you if you want to stay on the webpage? You are suppose to click on

ancel because it is a trick question just to get you stay on the website.

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Oh so you were hacked.

 

I see, antivirus going to clean it up? It is difficult to remove virus from

computer.

 

The last thing I need is someone to spoof their sender email address to be like

it were coming from me but I think may have a better antispoof.

 

Ok, well let us know if the virus is still in the computer, you may have to take

the extreme measure.

 

Thank you :-)

 

 

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Oh so you were hacked.

 

I see, antivirus going to clean it up? It is difficult to remove virus from

computer.

 

The last thing I need is someone to spoof their sender email address to be like

it were coming from me but I think may have a better antispoof.

 

Ok, well let us know if the virus is still in the computer, you may have to take

the extreme measure.

 

Thank you :-)

 

 

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I was correcting myself after discovering that she is legit and declared that

she must be hacked. When your email is hacked, it either spoof or you really

have a bad security situation where the person got your email accout, computer,

or worst both.

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Thanks, Pyle...I will look in to this.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

(unknown)

Suspend sunshinebeaches3@...

sunshinebeaches3@... on suspicion of Spyware and referring to possible

harmful program.

This link is nothing but trash that I seen while surfing website.

The Virus Scanner is a hoax and shouldn't be heed.

When it ask you if you want to stay on the webpage? You are suppose to click

on Cancel because it is a trick question just to get you stay on the website.

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I was correcting myself after discovering that she is legit and declared that

she must be hacked. When your email is hacked, it either spoof or you really

have a bad security situation where the person got your email accout, computer,

or worst both.

Re: (unknown)

Thanks, Pyle...I will look in to this.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

(unknown)

Suspend sunshinebeaches3@...

sunshinebeaches3@... on suspicion of Spyware and referring to possible

harmful program.

This link is nothing but trash that I seen while surfing website.

The Virus Scanner is a hoax and shouldn't be heed.

When it ask you if you want to stay on the webpage? You are suppose to click

on Cancel because it is a trick question just to get you stay on the website.

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Thanks, Pyle...I will look in to this.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

(unknown)

Suspend sunshinebeaches3@...

sunshinebeaches3@... on suspicion of Spyware and referring to possible

harmful program.

This link is nothing but trash that I seen while surfing website.

The Virus Scanner is a hoax and shouldn't be heed.

When it ask you if you want to stay on the webpage? You are suppose to click

on Cancel because it is a trick question just to get you stay on the website.

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Thanks, Pyle...I will look in to this.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

(unknown)

Suspend sunshinebeaches3@...

sunshinebeaches3@... on suspicion of Spyware and referring to possible

harmful program.

This link is nothing but trash that I seen while surfing website.

The Virus Scanner is a hoax and shouldn't be heed.

When it ask you if you want to stay on the webpage? You are suppose to click

on Cancel because it is a trick question just to get you stay on the website.

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Thanks for responding, . It happens. I had that terrible worm a couple of

years ago that crashed my computer and messed up the computers of many of my

contacts. It was really frustrating. I did open your card, but I closed it

immediately...it didn't look right and so far, I haven't had any problems...I am

crossing my fingers, my toes and my eyes!

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

(unknown)

Suspend sunshinebeaches3@...

sunshinebeaches3@... on suspicion of Spyware and referring to possible

armful program.

This link is nothing but trash that I seen while surfing website.

The Virus Scanner is a hoax and shouldn't be heed.

When it ask you if you want to stay on the webpage? You are suppose to click

on

ancel because it is a trick question just to get you stay on the website.

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Thanks for responding, . It happens. I had that terrible worm a couple of

years ago that crashed my computer and messed up the computers of many of my

contacts. It was really frustrating. I did open your card, but I closed it

immediately...it didn't look right and so far, I haven't had any problems...I am

crossing my fingers, my toes and my eyes!

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

(unknown)

Suspend sunshinebeaches3@...

sunshinebeaches3@... on suspicion of Spyware and referring to possible

armful program.

This link is nothing but trash that I seen while surfing website.

The Virus Scanner is a hoax and shouldn't be heed.

When it ask you if you want to stay on the webpage? You are suppose to click

on

ancel because it is a trick question just to get you stay on the website.

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I would run like hell from those surgeons and towards an OS who

practices 21st century medicine.

First, NO hip replacement procedure removes ligaments. What happens in

most of them is that the muscles and ligaments are cut during the

process but eventually they heal.

FWIW the anterior (approach) which I had does NOT cut any muscles or

ligaments as the incisions go in through the front through naturally

occurring openings.

I have no restrictions -- many people (even with the posterior more

standard approach) have no restrictions and certainly they engage in

the activities you set forth. Biking was one of the first activities

the PT people had me do to warm up -- granted it was on a stationary

bicycle but the movement is the same and falling from a bike may or

may not be an issue for people with no hip replacements.

I would certainly opt for surgery and get back to all the activities

you seem to enjoy. But do find an OS who isn't practicing voodoo

medicine LOL.

On Dec 24, 2009, at 6:05 AM, Kathleen Dougherty wrote:

> Good morning to everyone - I know it is the holidays, but I thought

> I might get started trying to understand how to maneuver this

> process of getting in contact with people about THR. I am glad you

> are out there!

> My problem is this:

> My doctors are telling me that since they remove ALL the LIGAMENTS

> around the hip, I will never ever be able to do certain things

> again. NEVER cross my legs, or bend the hip beyond 45 degrees, NEVER

> ride a bike or ski or do anything that would cause me to fall.

> Because of this information I feel I would almost rather live with

> the pain of my bone crunching arthritic hip than be so totally un-

> enabled by the lifestyle AFTER THR.

> Does anyone know what the name of this procedure is, and are there

> other procedures that do not remove the ligaments??

> Please help if you can,

> Thank you, and good holidays to all,

> Kathleen

>

>

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Hello Kathleen,

I have never heard of a doctor removing ligaments...I am 40 years old and just

had a THR Sept. 1st. You might want to get a 2nd and maybe a 3rd opinion. I

cross my legs, ride my bike, etc. Now since I just had my surgery about 4

months ago I can't do everything just yet but I am getting there. Now my doctor

did tell me that I could never play hard sports again like volleyball, baseball,

etc. but I could swim, play golf (although I hate golf :o) Please do your

homework about THR before having it because the more you know the better off you

will be.

Joint Replacement

From: artdough@...

Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 06:05:59 -0800

Subject: (unknown)

Good morning to everyone - I know it is the holidays, but I thought I might get

started trying to understand how to maneuver this process of getting in contact

with people about THR. I am glad you are out there!

My problem is this:

My doctors are telling me that since they remove ALL the LIGAMENTS around the

hip, I will never ever be able to do certain things again. NEVER cross my legs,

or bend the hip beyond 45 degrees, NEVER ride a bike or ski or do anything that

would cause me to fall.

Because of this information I feel I would almost rather live with the pain of

my bone crunching arthritic hip than be so totally un-enabled by the lifestyle

AFTER THR.

Does anyone know what the name of this procedure is, and are there other

procedures that do not remove the ligaments??

Please help if you can,

Thank you, and good holidays to all,

Kathleen

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Hello Kathleen!

 

And may I add my concerns, too!  I just had THR 26 Oct and have been doing a

little more every day.  But never, ever had I heard anything like this doc is

telling you.  Removal of ligaments?  Sounds like this man is practicing dark

ages medicine!

 

Please, go get another opinion...two or three if necessary.  There must be

better doctors in your area.  Don't take this doc's word as the only way. 

Listen to this group...lots of wisdom and experience here!

 

Lynn

 There is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in. 

    Leonard Cohen

Here's my art blog:  http://www.adreamseyeview.blogspot.com/

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Subject: RE: (unknown)

Joint Replacement Surgery

Date: Thursday, December 24, 2009, 2:49 PM

Hello Kathleen,

I have never heard of a doctor removing ligaments...I am 40 years old and just

had a THR Sept. 1st.  You might want to get a 2nd and maybe a 3rd opinion.  I

cross my legs, ride my bike, etc.  Now since I just had my surgery about 4

months ago I can't do everything just yet but I am getting there.  Now my doctor

did tell me that I could never play hard sports again like volleyball, baseball,

etc. but I could swim, play golf (although I hate golf :o)  Please do your

homework about THR before having it because the more you know the better off you

will be. 

Joint Replacement

From: artdough@...

Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 06:05:59 -0800

Subject: (unknown)

 

Good morning to everyone - I know it is the holidays, but I thought I might get

started trying to understand how to maneuver this process of getting in contact

with people about THR. I am glad you are out there!

My problem is this:

My doctors are telling me that since they remove ALL the LIGAMENTS around the

hip, I will never ever be able to do certain things again. NEVER cross my legs,

or bend the hip beyond 45 degrees, NEVER ride a bike or ski or do anything that

would cause me to fall.

Because of this information I feel I would almost rather live with the pain of

my bone crunching arthritic hip than be so totally un-enabled by the lifestyle

AFTER THR.

Does anyone know what the name of this procedure is, and are there other

procedures that do not remove the ligaments??

Please help if you can,

Thank you, and good holidays to all,

Kathleen

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I have never heard of ligaments being removed and I have had two hip

replacements, a fusion and a few other surgeries. But I have had so much damage

done from so many surgeries that I can never ride a bike, ski and always walk

with a cane. I know a lot about life long restrictions and the fear of falling

may cause the need for another surgery and I just turned 30. So yup the

ligaments really stand out for me a second opion defintely is a wise choice.

~Contessica

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Well if you don't hear anything tomorrow then I would try and go somewhere else. Is your son verbal? Has he been involved in an early intervention programs? Are there any resources where he attends school? Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by AlltelFrom: "pure_sweetness_27" <pure_sweetness_27@...>Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:12:45 -0000<autism >Subject: (unknown) Well I got him in with a social worker first thing this morning an she has to find someone capable of dealing with him said he is too severe! So I get to wait by the phone for a call. But she is tryingto down play the severity of this I know this is serious and NOT normal or ok and she was trying to tell me it was!

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Well I have to go thru our insurence so I'm limited on what I can do, and yes

he was in early intervention but that stopped when he turned 3 years old and was

put into the school system and I don't know if the school has anything availble

or not the schools here are out until Jan 4th..... He is verbal but he mostly

scripts when talking or he talks as a 3rd person

>

> Well if you don't hear anything tomorrow then I would try and go somewhere

else. Is your son verbal? Has he been involved in an early intervention

programs? Are there any resources where he attends school?

> Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel

>

> (unknown)

>

> Well I got him in with a social worker first thing this morning an she has to

find someone capable of dealing with him said he is too severe! So I get to

wait by the phone for a call. But she is tryingto down play the severity of

this I know this is serious and NOT normal or ok and she was trying to tell me

it was!

>

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I don't click on links that have no explaination (easiest way to pick up a

computer virus or have malware installed on your computer). If these are valid

links (this is the second one from this email address), could you please put a

subject on your post and a sentence or two explaining what the link is (story,

article, quiz) and how it related to IOWL?

thanks!

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I don't click on links that have no explaination (easiest way to pick up a

computer virus or have malware installed on your computer). If these are valid

links (this is the second one from this email address), could you please put a

subject on your post and a sentence or two explaining what the link is (story,

article, quiz) and how it related to IOWL?

thanks!

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weightloss ; jonandpeggy2@...;

stephenminton@...; pdgunther@...

Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 9:13:55 PM

Subject: (unknown)

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Dear D,

I think you need some basic background work in immunology and the

answers to your questions would be more self-evident. Rather than looking

for a forum that meets your needs of expectations for infallibility, I would

suggest you broaden your knowledge on physiology and particularly the immune

system.

Lastly, your assumption that AIDS patients :have little or no immune

system is not true. They do indeed have an immune system working, if

dysfunctional, and this dysfunctonality varies from individual to

individual. They would be dead in hours, if your assumptions were true of

virtually no immune system existing.

I am not " sold " on the infallibility of sodium chlorite. Practical

experience in the real world will tell you that there is nothing that is

infallible. Your perceptions for MMS is what is off. I have personally seen

it heal animals that were doomed and not others. That is good enough for me

at the moment to consider it a valuable alternative in some cases.

Consistent miracles, I never expect in a world of so many variables, and you

should not either.

good luck,

doug

[ ] (unknown)

> Well, we have no Aids patient under the hand to tell us if it worked for

> him or not, this is unfortunate. Aids patients have no or little immune

> system and they are lucky they can still be be cured by MMS.

>

> We have someone with a simple cold but taking MMS and this person needs a

> good immune system to heal and cannot rely on MMS alone.

>

> Guys, Do you succeed to communicate directly with Jim ?

>

> Do you know a more general forum where I can discuss MMS or other

> alternative stuff, for people a little more expecting, i.e not sold to MMS

> ?

>

> I hope for those who take blindly MMS everyday as maintenance that you

> will not regret if ever your doctor discover in 5 years you have permanent

> inflamatory problems in your tissues.

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I am glad this topic has been brought up as I am married to a SA.

I find myself unable to cope with this some days. Most days I should say.

It is horrible on both sides.

(unknown)

Over active libido is usually the result of addictive process. Immediate gratification, need for acceptance, depression, and low self esteme can make anything that is pleasurable,...addictive.

If you mistake love for sex, acceptance for sex,....low self esteme can set you up to act out impulsively or seek out sexual encounters.

Anti depressants are sometimes used for addictive behaviors and along with therapy can put libido back into perspective and make sex less enthralling.

Sexual addiction can be treated successfully but not if the person in treatment is harbouring secrets and hides personal issues of shame and guilt.

Bret

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Why in 5 years, not 1 , 2, 3, 4, would my doctor tell me I have inflammatory tissues from MMS maintenance dose. Wht does MMS do to inflame anything:

Are you a medical doctor that would KNOW or do you just make frivilous statements based on nothing.

[ ] (unknown)

Well, we have no Aids patient under the hand to tell us if it worked for him or not, this is unfortunate. Aids patients have no or little immune system and they are lucky they can still be be cured by MMS. We have someone with a simple cold but taking MMS and this person needs a good immune system to heal and cannot rely on MMS alone.Guys, Do you succeed to communicate directly with Jim ?Do you know a more general forum where I can discuss MMS or other alternative stuff, for people a little more expecting, i.e not sold to MMS ?I hope for those who take blindly MMS everyday as maintenance that you will not regret if ever your doctor discover in 5 years you have permanent inflamatory problems in your tissues.

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Sounds like a great plan for the week, Sapphy!

(unknown)

I've tracked my food for tomorrow (not good but can't be helped). I've tracked my Monday morning exercise, no evening exercise as it's my chat night with . Will resume the gym on Tuesday. I've started filling in spaces on my Biggest Loser calendar, thinking of goals. I think 7 pounds in January is doable. So that's my short term goal, 7 pounds by 2/1. I'm going to buy a small notebook to carry with me to the gym so I can log my minutes/mph/mileage so I can challenge myself to push myself every week. I can visualize me doing all this, and I see me getting smaller. I think that's important, to keep visualizing success so as we work for it, we can see our new selves in the distance.

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"You can deprive the body, but the soul needs chocolate" -Sapphyre

*~*~*~*

"Meditate. Live purely. Be quiet. Do your work with mastery. Like the moon, come out from behind the clouds! Shine".-Buddha

*~*~*~*

"Giving Up Is NOT An Option." - Sapphyre

*~*~*~*

"Whoever Said 'Nothing Tastes As Good As Thin Feels' Obviously Never Had A Jalapeno Double Cheeseburger ..." - Sapphyre

*~*~*~*

"Don't Dig Your Grave With Your Own Knife and Fork." - English Proverb

*~*~*~*

If I look down the road and see how far I have to go, I may get discouraged. If I overthink every aspect of what I need to do to succeed I may give up. If I focus on just today and make it as perfect as I can, I will succeed.

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I am impressed. Good for you. You go! I decided to just record on my e-mail calendar my exercise and weekly weight. Also anything out of the ordinary. I don't think I would be able to stick with the recording everything. I don't want to set myself up for something I can't keep up with. I think I will be able to monitor my eating without writing it down. I took last night off of exercise, because I had done a lower body balance ball work out on Friday and my legs were just too sore. Tonight I will probably just do the treadmill and bike. apmleehere@...From: Sapphyre <sapphyreonalosingstreak@...>100Plus List <100-plus >Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 6:52:57 PMSubject: (unknown)

I've tracked my food for tomorrow (not good but can't be helped). I've tracked my Monday morning exercise, no evening exercise as it's my chat night with . Will resume the gym on Tuesday. I've started filling in spaces on my Biggest Loser calendar, thinking of goals. I think 7 pounds in January is doable. So that's my short term goal, 7 pounds by 2/1. I'm going to buy a small notebook to carry with me to the gym so I can log my minutes/mph/mileage so I can challenge myself to push myself every week. I can visualize me doing all this, and I see me getting smaller. I think that's important, to keep visualizing success so as we work for it, we can see our new selves in the distance.

*~*~*~* "You can deprive the body, but the soul needs chocolate" -Sapphyre *~*~*~* "Meditate. Live purely. Be quiet. Do your work with mastery. Like the moon, come out from behind the clouds! Shine".-Buddha *~*~*~* "Giving Up Is NOT An Option." - Sapphyre *~*~*~* "Whoever Said 'Nothing Tastes As Good As Thin Feels' Obviously Never Had A Jalapeno Double Cheeseburger ..." - Sapphyre *~*~*~* "Don't Dig Your Grave With Your Own Knife and Fork." - English Proverb

*~*~*~*

If I look down the road and see how far I have to go, I may get discouraged. If I overthink every aspect of what I need to do to succeed I may give up. If I focus on just today and make it as perfect as I can, I will succeed.

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