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good point, like it.

steve

>From: " billy frew " <billyfrew@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: (unknown)

>Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:33:57

>

>Stuart wrote:

>

>

> >I work with many 'Asian' doctors - in fact many doctors in the UK are

> >Indian or Pakistani, a fact that *I* think is irrelevant when considering

> >the competence of an individual doctor. I'm sure you're not suggesting

>that

> >an offshore medic is as medically proficient as a GMC registered doctor,

> >but could you please clarify this?... I think your message could possibly

> >be read as being racist.

> >

> > > Funny, all the GMC registered 'Asian' docs I know are paid exactly the

> >same as their 'non-Asian' colleagues - but if an offshore company can get

>a

> >doctor on-board for the same price as a nurse or ex-military " medic " then

> >good for them (and for their employees).

>

>I don't see anything wrong with comments and thoroughly agree with

>them. I think you've got the wrong end of the stick Stuart. My perception

>is

>that I don't think was being racist as he wasn't talking about GMC

>Registered Doctors, rather more the TCN's from various countries (some with

>very dubious qualifications) working in remote locations for the oil and

>gas

>industry.

>

>The 'GMC' Doctors who work offshore get paid mega bucks (a contract I was

>on

>recently £86/hour) and are seldom found on installations abroad. It is far

>easier/cheaper for agencies to get TCN's in (by take a chance airlines) and

>pay them US$80/day and keep them in country for 9 months at a time, whereas

>the trusty remote medic will expect to be rotated every 4/5/6 weeks (on

>premium airline)and be paid £200+ per day.

>

>My local hospital in the UK(NHS) has just taken on a shed load of Filipino

>nurses who they told everyone were as qualified as their UK counterparts.

>Why then are they working as auxillaries and receiving special (nurse)

>training prior to being unleashed on the general public as RGNs?? Are they

>being paid as much? No danger, the NHS has learnt a lesson from our

>world!!!

>

>Cheers,

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi to work on a fear of bees (which my daughter has had) you don't

have to actually have the child handle bees, etc. A child with this worry

would probably avoid going outside, or refuse to be outdoors alone, etc., or

at school would refuse recess. Kellen also would check the car thoroughly

for bees before she'd get in, ask me to do this, and insist that the windows

were never rolled down to keep bees from flying in as we drove. The

exposures would target whatever behaviors (compulsions) the child is doing,

which are interfering with his life. By targeting the behaviors, it's not

absolutely necessary to understand exactly what the obsession is. Germs,

dogs, storms, any number of things could be causing a child to refuse to go

outside, but the E & RP would be about the same. It is all about changing

behavior first, and the feelings follow.

So if the child can't go outside at all for fear of bees, then a first step

could be simply opening the door for increasing lengths of time while

acclimating to the anxiety this causes, then outside a few steps with Mom,

later alone, etc. always increasing the length of time or distance from the

house and " safety " a doable amount until the child is again able to be

outdoors comfortably.

In addition, I bought Kellen a shirt with realistic bees screened on the

front, showed her a dead bumblebee I found, watched nature programming about

bees, how they make honey, find flowers, etc., read books about bees, and in

general worked bees in wherever I could.

BZZZZ :-)

A good book for educators is " Teaching the Tiger " , I am sorry the author's

name escapes me at the moment.

Kathy R in Indiana

----- Original Message -----

From: <jtjohnson@...>

> I was talking to my older child's teacher

> today about 's OCD and she said it's so hard to know how to

> help the children in her class who have OCD. Are there any good books

> specifically geared towards educators? For instance, if she has a

> child who is deathly afraid of bees, cognitive behavior therapy would

> advise you to gradually expose the child to bees, but how could you

> possibly do that?! Even if you had the parent's permission to try to

> help?

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Kathy. I'll pass the information on to my daughter's teacher.

She is such a compassionate, wonderful woman who has faced her own

demons, so she would do practically anything to help the kids face

their own.

-Jean

> Hi to work on a fear of bees (which my daughter has had) you

don't

> have to actually have the child handle bees, etc. A child with

this worry

> would probably avoid going outside, or refuse to be outdoors alone,

etc., or

> at school would refuse recess. Kellen also would check the car

thoroughly

> for bees before she'd get in, ask me to do this, and insist that the

windows

> were never rolled down to keep bees from flying in as we drove. The

> exposures would target whatever behaviors (compulsions) the child is

doing,

> which are interfering with his life. By targeting the behaviors,

it's not

> absolutely necessary to understand exactly what the obsession is.

Germs,

> dogs, storms, any number of things could be causing a child to

refuse to go

> outside, but the E & RP would be about the same. It is all about

changing

> behavior first, and the feelings follow.

>

> So if the child can't go outside at all for fear of bees, then a

first step

> could be simply opening the door for increasing lengths of time

while

> acclimating to the anxiety this causes, then outside a few steps

with Mom,

> later alone, etc. always increasing the length of time or distance

from the

> house and " safety " a doable amount until the child is again able to

be

> outdoors comfortably.

>

> In addition, I bought Kellen a shirt with realistic bees screened on

the

> front, showed her a dead bumblebee I found, watched nature

programming about

> bees, how they make honey, find flowers, etc., read books about

bees, and in

> general worked bees in wherever I could.

>

> BZZZZ :-)

>

> A good book for educators is " Teaching the Tiger " , I am sorry the

author's

> name escapes me at the moment.

>

> Kathy R in Indiana

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: <jtjohnson@j...>

> > I was talking to my older child's teacher

> > today about 's OCD and she said it's so hard to know how to

> > help the children in her class who have OCD. Are there any good

books

> > specifically geared towards educators? For instance, if she has a

> > child who is deathly afraid of bees, cognitive behavior therapy

would

> > advise you to gradually expose the child to bees, but how could

you

> > possibly do that?! Even if you had the parent's permission to try

to

> > help?

[Guest guest]

Hi you wrote:

> How do you OCD tantrums

> from just plain bad behavior?

It's not always possible to know for sure, but when children are prevented

from doing a compulsion, or are triggered, they experience increased anxiety

which can spark a tantrum or meltdown. When the OCD is successfully

treated, the tantrums peter out because the OCDer is not constantly being

triggered and experiencing the adversive anxiety spikes.

One hint is if consequencing works. If a child responds to consequences

imposed on tantruming by reducing tantrums, then OCD is probably not

involved. Consequencing OCD-related behavior is usually not successful (ie

no reduction in the tantrums.)

Tantrums are also a way to control other family members and discourage them

from breaking OCD's " rules " and so triggering anxiety in the OCDer.

> Does OCD give people a license to

> misbehave?

No--and a goal of recovery is to help the OCDer be accountable for his

behavior and help him find more acceptable ways of handling anxiety,

irritability and anger. BTW a lot of compulsions can look just like

misbehavior, willful disobedience, etc. But if OCD is untreated or

inadequately treated, it's unrealistic to expect a child to be in complete

control of these meltdowns. As the child's OCD improves, behavior

expectations can be raised and the child will have a chance of meeting them.

A child saddled with OCD is already expending considerable effort on that,

and doesn't have the resources a " normal " child may have.

> How do you know when to punish as opposed to just love

> the person and understand? Help if you can please.

How old is your child, and is he receiving effective treatment? Can he tell

you about his tantrums? If he's older than three he probably wishes he

didn't " have " to behave this way either. Effectively treating the OCD is

the place to start, and the priority--and then you can begin addressing

remaining unwanted behaviors. With the OCD symptoms significantly reduced,

other problems can vanish as well. It's less confusing to then begin to

address any remaining problems once the OCD is minimized.

Kathy R. in Indiana

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

Thanks for the input on the OCD and tantrums. Dan is 12 and just

started therapy for his OCD. He has not been in school for over a month and

spent over two weeks of this time in hospitals. How soon does improvement

begin to show with treatment? He also takes Luvox and clonopin(spelling may

be off).

Chris

Re: (unknown)

> Hi you wrote:

>

> > How do you OCD tantrums

> > from just plain bad behavior?

>

> It's not always possible to know for sure, but when children are prevented

> from doing a compulsion, or are triggered, they experience increased

anxiety

> which can spark a tantrum or meltdown. When the OCD is successfully

> treated, the tantrums peter out because the OCDer is not constantly being

> triggered and experiencing the adversive anxiety spikes.

>

> One hint is if consequencing works. If a child responds to consequences

> imposed on tantruming by reducing tantrums, then OCD is probably not

> involved. Consequencing OCD-related behavior is usually not successful

(ie

> no reduction in the tantrums.)

>

> Tantrums are also a way to control other family members and discourage

them

> from breaking OCD's " rules " and so triggering anxiety in the OCDer.

>

> > Does OCD give people a license to

> > misbehave?

>

> No--and a goal of recovery is to help the OCDer be accountable for his

> behavior and help him find more acceptable ways of handling anxiety,

> irritability and anger. BTW a lot of compulsions can look just like

> misbehavior, willful disobedience, etc. But if OCD is untreated or

> inadequately treated, it's unrealistic to expect a child to be in complete

> control of these meltdowns. As the child's OCD improves, behavior

> expectations can be raised and the child will have a chance of meeting

them.

> A child saddled with OCD is already expending considerable effort on that,

> and doesn't have the resources a " normal " child may have.

>

> > How do you know when to punish as opposed to just love

> > the person and understand? Help if you can please.

>

> How old is your child, and is he receiving effective treatment? Can he

tell

> you about his tantrums? If he's older than three he probably wishes he

> didn't " have " to behave this way either. Effectively treating the OCD is

> the place to start, and the priority--and then you can begin addressing

> remaining unwanted behaviors. With the OCD symptoms significantly

reduced,

> other problems can vanish as well. It's less confusing to then begin to

> address any remaining problems once the OCD is minimized.

>

> Kathy R. in Indiana

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 4/18/01 1:27:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

Da_@... writes:

<< I can certainly appreciate one's wanting to stop the massive inflow of

email. I do wish it could be cut down more, which it can. >>

Yes, it can. In addition to the hellos and thank you's, all order requests

and confirmations of orders should be kept private. Also many of the " sounds

good, I'll try it " type. Another thing, usually one can do a very simple

websearch and get a needed website--it's rarely necessary to ask the list for

a website if the name of the product and/or company is known. As for

off-topic posts of the cow slaughter type, I personally was glad to get this

one, and others. Such posts can be posted very judiciously, I feel; however,

feedback should definitely be private.

Back in the day (of One List btw), two years ago, such stringent measures

were not so necessary. But with the volume on this list, one should really

think before posting. Otherwise it gets out of control.

Robin G.

[Guest guest]

Mybe this was their Apirl Fools Joke??

Randi Allaire wrote:

> List:

> Below is a letter from MAJ General West to the Army Times. I suggest

> everyone sit before reading, might make the fall to the floor a little

> shorter and softer. I'm working on my rebuttal to send to the Army Times, in

> addition to sending a cc to " General " West. UNFREAKINBELIEVEABLE!

>

> Army Times

> April 23, 2001

> Pg. 61

>

> Article Misled Service Members

>

SNIP

[Guest guest]

I was hoping that this List moderator (is their one?) would

help to keep the posts list-relevant also.

- Vito

>From: rjgoldsmit@...

>In a message dated 4/18/01 1:27:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

>Da_@... writes:

>

><< I can certainly appreciate one's wanting to stop the massive inflow of

>email. I do wish it could be cut down more, which it can. >>

>

>Yes, it can. In addition to the hellos and thank you's, all order requests

> >and confirmations of orders should be kept private. Also many of the

> " sounds

>good, I'll try it " type. Another thing, usually one can do a very simple

> >websearch and get a needed website--it's rarely necessary to ask the list

>for >a website if the name of the product and/or company is known. As for

> >off-topic posts of the cow slaughter type, I personally was glad to get

>this >one, and others. Such posts can be posted very judiciously, I feel;

>however,

>feedback should definitely be private.

>

>Back in the day (of One List btw), two years ago, such stringent measures

>were not so necessary. But with the volume on this list, one should really

>think before posting. Otherwise it gets out of control.

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[Guest guest]

Hi it can take a couple of months at the correct dose to see symptom

improvement from an SSRI, though some respond more quickly. You should also

see progress from CBT in a month to six weeks. This list has an unofficial

" five-visit " rule, which means actual CBT with ERP should be happening

within this time frame, or it may be wise to look for another therapist.

Let us know how things go.

Kathy R. in Indiana

----- Original Message -----

From: " Zobels1 " <Zobels1@...>

> Thanks for the input on the OCD and tantrums. Dan is 12 and just

> started therapy for his OCD. He has not been in school for over a month

and

> spent over two weeks of this time in hospitals. How soon does improvement

> begin to show with treatment? He also takes Luvox and clonopin(spelling

may

> be off).

[Guest guest]

This letter is no different than the slap in the face comments made by

Cohen(he hasn't grown a third eye after the shots) and Ken Bacon(he has

more hair, runs farther, feels so much better). As far as the

Congressional testimony he speaks of, he might go back and do a little

closer reading of the text. Too many of the big boys have been caught

passing on their own brand of misinformation. THERE ARE " SHOTS " IN THE

DARK, THERE ARE HUMAN GUINEA PIGS, AND THERE ARE VOLUMES ABOUT THE AVA

THAT THE DOD DOESN'T WANT US TO KNOW!!!!!

Maybe the General needs to pick up a copy of the October 11, 2000 GAO

report and do some serious reading. The facts are there. When 71% of the

respondents report that they knew and know nothing of the FDA VAERS,

this tells me that there is something that the DoD doesn't want us to

know, and it would seem to me that with this experimental vaccine, it

would only be appropriate that feed back be vital, if our leaders really

cared!!! And speaking of experimental, has the DoD explained to their

troops that there are (2) IND's pending approval? Has the DoD now told

the troops that TESTING is underway to see if the 6 shot regime is

really necessary? Has the DoD told the troops that there is

investigation into whether or not the vaccine has to be given

subcutaneous or directly into the muscle, investigation that only proves

that the way this vaccine has been given is possibly wrong, key word

here again, investigation. A few of us have found this fact out, using

the same source that the DoD has condemned for so long, THE MEDIA. THE

BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THIS VACCINE HAS NOT BEEN FDA APPROVED FOR

INHALATION PROTECTION CONTRARY TO THE VERBAL DOD APPROVAL. THE 1996 AND

1999 IND APPLICATIONS PROVE THIS.

Just one more thing before I head out, and this goes along with what is

being said about misinformation. How many strains of anthrax have you

been told exist? Our DoD sponsored briefer stated that there were 84

known strains and possibly 140.Possibly 140 different strains? And

General Blanck assured us that this vaccine will protect against all

strains?????? Hard to believe when it is unknown how many there really

are. Strange that the flu vaccine has to be changed each year because of

a different flu strain that is guessed to be prevalent.

Major General West, your letter only reaffirms what we have been saying

all along.

Bill Colley

Randi Allaire wrote:

> List:

> Below is a letter from MAJ General West to the Army Times. I suggest

> everyone sit before reading, might make the fall to the floor a little

> shorter and softer. I'm working on my rebuttal to send to the Army Times, in

> addition to sending a cc to " General " West. UNFREAKINBELIEVEABLE!

>

>

> Army Times

> April 23, 2001

> Pg. 61

SNIP

[Guest guest]

Hi

It strikes me that the potential damage caused by the perception of the BW

threat is far greater than that arising from the threat itself.

Just like the stars wars defence programme, this vaccination business has

more to do with morale boosting and corporate greed than anything else.

Therefor it is not surprising the spin doctors are out in force trying to

influence the minds of the populous. There are spin doctors in uniform too.

Stay well

Angus

Vice chair

NGV & FA

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/23/01 9:20:46 PM GTB Daylight Time,

lashannasmall@... writes:

<<

What's up with the rabies shot? What can you do for rabies? >>

The shot is risky.I know a mother on the AOL boards just had her dd get

rounds for a cat bite.Wonder how the child is doing.Anyway emeds had a good

description of the rabies/rates.I don't know any alternative treatments

though.Aventis makes a rabies vaccine and the RIG.I think there are one or 2

more brands.

<A HREF= " http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic493.htm " >Click here: Rabies from

Emergency Medicine / Infectious Diseases</A>

http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic493.htm

Sara

[Guest guest]

I agree with this philosophy. I just sent someone a note saying somewhat the

same thing. I have seen some people really mess themselves up by being overly

aggressive in bowel cleaning, for instance and then they have to repair from

damage they did to their digestive system. Sometimes it can take several years

to recover from over aggressive cleansing.

I say it alot, 'Slow and steady wins the race "

Blessings,

Donna

(unknown)

snip

And I can

say from personal experience that it's not how " fast " you improve, just that

you continue to do so. It's better to go slow and stay at all times focused

and peaceful than to push yourself to far for that moment and end up going

back on yourself. No matter what anyone else thinks or says, you will always

know you are doing your best and you WILL SUCCEED!!! , I promise from the

God of my being. All my Love!!!

Wishing you the very best of everything in Life...

With you always in Love and Truth,

Brandauer

energytoawaken@...

" Only the ego can be enlightened, the Truth that You Are can never be

Unenlightened " -know You Are pure-

,

I'll have some contact info tomorrow. It is in MAssachussetts, costs about

$1800 for 10 days. It not only CLEANS you out, they teach you how to cook &

eat. Say hey!

jim

Brandauer wrote: > > Dear Jim, > > Could you tell me more info

about this place? I would also like to check it > out. When are you going?

Drop me a personal email if you like at: > energytoawaken@... . All

my Love!!! > > Wishing you the very best of everything in Life... > > With

you always in Love and Truth, > > > energytoawaken@... >

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[Guest guest]

Here are some possibilities--

Perhaps he is switching from symptoms " on " to symptoms " off " . From what I'm

reading this seems to happen to some of our kids. They start out with

symptoms during the cycle, but later are better " on " , then " off " . It's

almost as though their bodies start wanting to be chelated. Eventually

symptoms seem to even out. (We're 8-9 months into this.)

Are you on Phase 2? (DMSA/ALA) Dr. Amy says some of these kids start

developing Clostridia after dumping mercury into the intestines for a period

of time. That can cause a major change in behavior and progress. This can

be tested for, and usually a round of Vancomycin or some other effective

agent takes care of the problem.

That's what I know, for what it's worth.

Barb

[ ] (unknown)

>

>Just wondering if anyone else who has been chelating their child has had

>this experience that we are having. We are in between rounds (last one

>was 10 days ago and we're on the 11 day off cycle so we'll start round

>#14 tomorrow) My son is having symptoms as he does when on the " on days "

>with DMSA. He is extremely gassy and urinating all day long. He's also

>stimming a lot which he rarely does anymore. He also had one crying spell

> out of no where which he also rarely does anymore. ??????

>

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Barb,

That's all interesting... Yes, we're on phase two with the ALA added in.

I forgot to also mention that the other night, my son was on a " high "

from 2:00 in the am until 3:00 that next afternoon. Went to school, had

therapy, etc... He hasn't done this in so long. He did this when he ate

something he shouldn't (before GFCF and corn-free diet) or when he had a

yeast problem. I couldn't figure out why he was up. Clostridia is a

bacteria, isn't it?

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Yes. We happened to be at Dr. Amy's so we just went ahead and tested for

this and sure enough, my son was starting to get this, so we did a course of

Vancomycin and are now on Culturelle.

Barb

Re: [ ] (unknown)

>Barb,

>That's all interesting... Yes, we're on phase two with the ALA added in.

>I forgot to also mention that the other night, my son was on a " high "

>from 2:00 in the am until 3:00 that next afternoon. Went to school, had

>therapy, etc... He hasn't done this in so long. He did this when he ate

>something he shouldn't (before GFCF and corn-free diet) or when he had a

>yeast problem. I couldn't figure out why he was up. Clostridia is a

>bacteria, isn't it?

>

>Thanks.

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Tammy,

Your Gabby sounds like my Skyler. When he was born he was in the 95% for his

age. Keeping in mind that his mom is 5'11 " , I am 6'3 " and the smallest man in

his mom's family is 6'4 " while grandpa is 6'6 " .

When he was first sick at 6 months of age and was not keeping food down, he

slowed in growth, at 8 mo's they said he was " failure to thrive " . At 10 mo's he

was in the 30% size for age, then at 14 mo's he was around 18%. He just stopped

growing. Since then he has been very very slow. He is in about the same group

as Gabby ~ 28 to 31lbs and he JUST reached 33 3/4 " at 3 yrs & 4 mo's. They had

to re-check his height because he has orthodics in his shoes.

Well, got to run, Time to see the Shriners Doc. Wish me luck.

~ [ & Skyler]

(unknown)

After reading a few more I had to comment on the

growth factors, or lack thereof. Gabby has fallen in

the past 18 months from the 60th percentile of childen

to the 30th. In a nutshell she just hasn't grown in

height and/or gained any weight in close to 18 months.

She is 3+ and fluctuates between 27-30 lbs and 35 "

tall. On the other end of the spectrum is her sister

who is 8 years old. I had to laugh when someone wrote

5'5 " is so tall for a 4th grader. She's in 2nd grade

and is 5'2 " and wears a size 8 womans shoe! lol My

husband and I couldn't have two different children.

Gabby has a light complexion, blonde curly hair and is

so small & petite but MIGHTY in will and mouth where

Annie has an olive complexion, dark brown long

straight hair and tall with large built but backwards

and quiet...lol If I had my druthers I mess with the

older one instead of the little one - she'd kick your

butt! lol Probably from all she's been through as

well. Sorry to ramble - just had to write...Tammy

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Tammy

i had to laugh on this lolol

i have a son thats 23 years old then melissa whos 14 now

and my mother in law told me you never have 2 kids alike

she was right on my 2 kids also

my son was always low keyed never got into trouble very quiet

and into the nintendo games and wrestling and track running

he finally got interested in girls when he started college lolol had his

first date at 20 years old lololol his skin is tan use to have the long

wavy hair

on the other hand

melissa has always been outgoing mouth to take up for the shortness she is

long hair straight as a board lololol light skinned the teacher said shes

milky color lololol she will argue with you til you understand her point and

seems like shes a little oprah cause this kid can talk and talk lololol

the thing both have in common is they are dareing in their own ways

i love each one the same though lololol

a kid is like a flower some bloom quicker than others

my son i taught alot early where melissa due to her size i waited til she

was taller

but both know how to cook and do whats needed

another thing that gets me lololol

my son never got his drivers lic he just dont have a interest in even trying

for it

but melissa thats another story lololol she would try and take off in a car

if i said ok heres the keys lolololol

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Kathy

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Hello Chris!

I still don't know what a homework contract is. I emailed his case manager back and asked. I told her I did not know why he didn't write his assignments down, and that it could be his ADD but it could be his OCD and there was no way to be sure. I explained I thought it was OCD related because he Usually remembers what the assignment is and if it was an attention issue, he probably wouldn't know. I explained that if he doesn't remember to write it down, he really most likely would not remember to ask the teacher. He is going into 7th grade, also and I am really getting nervous about the increased demands as he approaches high school. Anyway..to make a long story shorter, I got an email back from the case manager saying his teachers will ask him if he wrote down his homework daily. This will go into his IEP. Just one terse line, so I am hoping she is not mad I was so demanding, but frankly I do not think it was an unreasonable request. Oh well, what can I say, I guess the kids with the pushiest (as long as they are polite!) parents get the most help. Maybe someone could offer a class in assertiveness for OCD parents!

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Hi a!What would a "homework contract" be?I have the very same problem with my son (12). He never writes down homework (actually none of my 3 sons do) but he almost always remembers it; the few times he doesn't, we've had some problems. However, he also practically never turns any in!! At the last meeting with the teachers, I asked them to try to ask him each Monday for any missing assignments, but from looking through his notebook, they haven't been doing this as I pulled out a bunch yesterday. And some of them looked sort of old so I think it's too late to turn them in!! I'm getting just as exasperated as you must be! As an additional problem, they go over homework in class each day; used to put check marks, etc., by each answer; now he has suddenly quit doing this (says he can't due to some OCD thing); anyway, I can't tell what's counted right/wrong, etc. And he's not turning them in or apparently he just "tells the teacher" what he made. And with the end of the school year coming up and 7th grade to "look forward" to, I'd like to find some solution now and be prepared when next year begins.So please let me know if you come up with any great answers to this problem!in N.C.> > I just received an email from my son's case manager at school. My son is 12 and is rather disorganized. He frequently is thinking of something else..i.e...will I get to my next class in time, is this a bad time to bother the teacher, and who ever knows what else. As a result he often forgets to write his homework down. His IEP states that his teachers are to check his homework book and sign off. At his annual review last week I explained OCD and brought a report from his doctor confirming his diagnosis. So here is my question, How do I respond to this email:> I shared with the team the doctor's report you shared at the annual review. We also discussed signing 's handbook. I talked with on Friday about asking his teachers to sign the handbook. Yesterday I> noticed he is not following through with the process. Please talk to him about this request. If signing the handbook does not work, we could use a> homework contract.> > The reason doesn't write down his homework is that sometimes he forgets. Am I wrong in wondering if the suggested solution above doesn't make sense, if he forgets to write it down, why would he remember to ask his teachers to sign it?? I am just exasperated that they cannot understand OCD. Does anyone have any suggestions? Also, If you agrees with the suggested solution please let me know also. Thanks so much.> aYou may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. You may subscribe to the Parents of Adults with OCD List at parentsofadultswithOCD-subscribe . You may subscribe to the OCD and Homeschooling List at ocdandhomeschooling-subscribe . You may change your subscription format or access the files, bookmarks, and archives for our list at . Our list advisors are Tamar Chansky, Ph.D., Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D., and Dan Geller, M.D. Our list moderators are Birkhan, Kathy Hammes, Jule Monnens, Gail Pesses, Kathy , and Jackie Stout. Subscription issues or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at lharkins@... .

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Just one terse line, so I am hoping she is not mad I was so

demanding, but frankly I do not think it was an unreasonable request.

Oh well, what can I say, I guess the kids with the pushiest (as long

as they are polite!) parents get the most help. Maybe someone could

offer a class in assertiveness for OCD parents!

> a

Did someone say ASSERTIVE? <perk!> *big laugh*

I think I'm the most assertive person I know! I don't give a RIP

what others think about me and THAT'S where your problem is, a.

You stated, 'I hope she is not mad because I was so demanding...'

Who cares what she thinks? Be concerned about YOU and YOUR CHILD

only!!! Believe me, if it were HER child, s/he would get what

they're supposed to get. No If's, Ands, or Buts!!!

Try it. 'The squeaky wheel gets the grease' and believe me, if you

don't SQUEAK, no one will listen. The school systems are

overwhelmed. Overwhelmed teachers, overwhelmed administrations, and

overwhelmed STUDENTS and PARENTS. Make some noise and summon up all

that stored up COURAGE you have and give it a voice. You're doing it

for your child. Is there any greater mission in life?

Go get 'em, Tiger!

Joni

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Joni, YES YES YES. I agree. I actually have learned to be quite a squeaky wheel to all concerned despite the fact that I am out of my comfort zone! I was secretly hoping somebody would gig me on that hope shes not mad line!

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Just one terse line, so I am hoping she is not mad I was so demanding, but frankly I do not think it was an unreasonable request. Oh well, what can I say, I guess the kids with the pushiest (as long as they are polite!) parents get the most help. Maybe someone could offer a class in assertiveness for OCD parents! > aDid someone say ASSERTIVE? <perk!> *big laugh*I think I'm the most assertive person I know! I don't give a RIP what others think about me and THAT'S where your problem is, a. You stated, 'I hope she is not mad because I was so demanding...' Who cares what she thinks? Be concerned about YOU and YOUR CHILD only!!! Believe me, if it were HER child, s/he would get what they're supposed to get. No If's, Ands, or Buts!!! Try it. 'The squeaky wheel gets the grease' and believe me, if you don't SQUEAK, no one will listen. The school systems are overwhelmed. Overwhelmed teachers, overwhelmed administrations, and overwhelmed STUDENTS and PARENTS. Make some noise and summon up all that stored up COURAGE you have and give it a voice. You're doing it for your child. Is there any greater mission in life?Go get 'em, Tiger!Joni

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> How long is a non antibiotically treated ear infection last?

Believe it or not our pediatrician's assistant told us this a few years ago

when our adopted son was having repeated ear infections:

" With antibiotics, the ear infection will go away in about 7 days, without

antibiotics the infection will go away in about a week. "

He had a long talk with my husband saying how he disagreed with the routine

use of antibiotics on children, but they get unbelievable pressure from

parents to prescribe them. We got off the merry go round with my son, he had

a few more minor infections and then never had another one. None of my 3

biological children have ever had ear infections, antibiotics, tylenol or

any med. whatsoever.

Long answer to a short question!!!

H. in Utah