Guest guest Posted May 1, 2002 Report Share Posted May 1, 2002 I give you some of mine! debby [ ] (unknown)>Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 16:51:40 -0400>>Hi everyone,>>I just wanted to let everyone who is having a problem losing weight from >the>Prednisone that there is hope!! Weight has always been one of my huge>problems with the medicine. I gained a total of 40 lbs from it. My >friends>and I tried Weight Watchers. My friend had all the information from when>she joined before and we hold our own little meetings and weigh in once a>week. We pay $2.00 a week and then everyday that we go over our allowed>food points we pay $1.00. We also pay $1.00 when we gain a pound when we>weigh in. In the end we're going to all take the money and go out to eat >or>out on the town one night. So far out of everyone, I've lost the most >(much>to my suprise). Nothing else worked for me at all. I still go to the gym>though. I was 160lbs when I started and now I am 136lbs. We started the>day after the Superbowl, which was in the beginning of February. Not too>bad!! I'm pretty excited!! My goal is to be 125lbs again, which is what I>was before I started the Prednisone. So anybody who wants to lose>weight.....it sure worked for me!! And it's not hard to stick to either. >I>have no disciple to eat good at all, and this was really very easy. I>encourage everyone to try it!! That's all for now!! Good luck!!>>>Philadelphia, PA>>_________________________________________________________________>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.>_________________________________________________________________Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2002 Report Share Posted May 1, 2002 Congratulations! You are doing great! [ ] (unknown) Hi everyone,I just wanted to let everyone who is having a problem losing weight from the Prednisone that there is hope!! Weight has always been one of my huge problems with the medicine. I gained a total of 40 lbs from it. My friends and I tried Weight Watchers. My friend had all the information from when she joined before and we hold our own little meetings and weigh in once a week. We pay $2.00 a week and then everyday that we go over our allowed food points we pay $1.00. We also pay $1.00 when we gain a pound when we weigh in. In the end we're going to all take the money and go out to eat or out on the town one night. So far out of everyone, I've lost the most (much to my suprise). Nothing else worked for me at all. I still go to the gym though. I was 160lbs when I started and now I am 136lbs. We started the day after the Superbowl, which was in the beginning of February. Not too bad!! I'm pretty excited!! My goal is to be 125lbs again, which is what I was before I started the Prednisone. So anybody who wants to lose weight.....it sure worked for me!! And it's not hard to stick to either. I have no disciple to eat good at all, and this was really very easy. I encourage everyone to try it!! That's all for now!! Good luck!!Philadelphia, PA_________________________________________________________________Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 Hi , I'll gladly give you some. Wish I could:) Ruth > I give you some of mine! > debby > [ ] (unknown) > >Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 16:51:40 -0400 > > > >Hi everyone, > > > >I just wanted to let everyone who is having a problem losing weight from > >the > >Prednisone that there is hope!! Weight has always been one of my huge > >problems with the medicine. I gained a total of 40 lbs from it. My > >friends > >and I tried Weight Watchers. My friend had all the information from when > >she joined before and we hold our own little meetings and weigh in once a > >week. We pay $2.00 a week and then everyday that we go over our allowed > >food points we pay $1.00. We also pay $1.00 when we gain a pound when we > >weigh in. In the end we're going to all take the money and go out to eat > >or > >out on the town one night. So far out of everyone, I've lost the most > >(much > >to my suprise). Nothing else worked for me at all. I still go to the gym > >though. I was 160lbs when I started and now I am 136lbs. We started the > >day after the Superbowl, which was in the beginning of February. Not too > >bad!! I'm pretty excited!! My goal is to be 125lbs again, which is what I > >was before I started the Prednisone. So anybody who wants to lose > >weight.....it sure worked for me!! And it's not hard to stick to either. > >I > >have no disciple to eat good at all, and this was really very easy. I > >encourage everyone to try it!! That's all for now!! Good luck!! > > > > > >Philadelphia, PA > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 , I am so glad to hear your good news.. Keep up the good work and recouperate.. !! I don't post often, but was thinking of you. Lyn in Ark katydid562002 <katydid562002@...> wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm home! Got to come home on Monday. 2 days sooner than anticipated. The operation was a success. They essentially rerouted half of my venous circulation through the kidney vein back to the vena cava bypassing the liver. My platelets are 66 at last reading. They haven't been that high for 6 years! My friend had to go home yesterday so I am on my own for the first time today. Still have a heck of a tummy ache! Am trying to get through my E-mail. I want to thank everyone. I talked to a member when I was in ICU at the University of Washington. I was on a narcotic that I wasn't tolerating so I don't remember who she was. I hung up when the doctor came in. I wish I had another two hours to talk to her. She was newly diagnosed. The last 14 years haven't been bad and they say that everything is flowing well and it may be another 10 years before a transplant. I had a Distal spleno renal shunt. Please feel free to ask questions. Going into surgery I felt wrapped in a cocoon of love and support...it was awsome. Thanks to you all. I'm a bit lost now and overwhelmed but I know things will get better. They did a liver biopsy while they were there and I go in Tuesday to have my staples out and more tests. Thanks again. Love and Blessings... from Washington State. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 Rad I have never looked through the entire index. . . maybe you can find an answer here http://www.allabouthome.com/directories/dir_cleaning.html Kathy (unknown) I had a question. Do you know how to get permanent marker, like a visa visa pen out of a car seat material. (rad) ===== Since I don't have a silly one. My AOL IM chat symbol is a batman symbol. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 > Rad > I have never looked through the entire index. . . maybe you can find an answer > here > http://www.allabouthome.com/directories/dir_cleaning.html > > Kathy Hi Kathy, Great cleaning tips, hee hee. Guess which one I was curious on? Well, close enough, its under the cleaning after the pet. You know with the accidents on the carpet with the number 1. Not that Stevie is a pet but I'm pretty sure the tips is worth a trial. Thanks. Irma,13,DS/ASD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 That's a good site for anything (rad) --- mum592001 <ICANFIELD@...> wrote: > > > Rad > > I have never looked through the entire index. . . > maybe you can > find an answer > > here > > > http://www.allabouthome.com/directories/dir_cleaning.html > > > > Kathy > > Hi Kathy, > Great cleaning tips, hee hee. Guess which one I was > curious on? Well, > close enough, its under the cleaning after the pet. > You know with the > accidents on the carpet with the number 1. Not that > Stevie is a pet > but I'm pretty sure the tips is worth a trial. > Thanks. > Irma,13,DS/ASD > > ===== Since I don't have a silly one. My AOL IM chat symbol is a batman symbol. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 Darn right it can and it is somewhat of the talking points I just recieved from the ACA's govermental affairs today. I will be sending this out to the field in the form of a ACA Legislative Alert! and with the contact information for all of our congressmen and women. We are going to need to have our Medicare patients also call and fax letters to our folks in Washington DC. Vern Saboe, DC ACA Delegate (Oregon) (unknown) > Vern, > > The same article can be used in Washington, DC to support the proposed > Medicare legislation. > > DeSiena > > > OregonDCs rules: > 1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve members will be tolerated. > 2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name. > 3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without his or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 In a message dated 5/2/02 9:47:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, outerspace@... writes: > > > > > Rad > I have never looked through the entire index. . . maybe you can find an > answer > here > http://www.allabouthome.com/directories/dir_cleaning.html > Cool site Kathy. And , it says hair spray will remove magic marker. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 , So glad you're home and doing well. If we can offer any support just let us know. I know what it's like to see that platelet count go up. Mine is now in the 70 range. Higher than its been in months. So I'm as excited for you as anyone. Keep up the good work and try to take care. Being alone can be frightening so let us know if we can help. Always someone here to talk to you. WELCOME HOME!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 In a message dated 5/4/2002 6:46:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, e_shawley@... writes: > THAT was too funny!!!! It's refreshing to see a NEWBEE on here with such a wonderful sense of humor... not to put down anyone here, but your wit about this " terror creepy thing " ie... candidiasis, is helpful and funny! Please keep up the humor and maybe we can all deal with this in a much stronger fight, than half alive and " just getting through it " without any humor whatsoever... I'm grateful to read your story and as you said, sorry you have this fight to deal with but if we have to fight, it's nice to know " humor " can live THROUGH OUT... ) Michele* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 Dear " Iscalera " and everyone else , I am new to this group also. I have been enjoying reading the various " posts. " I can identify with the various school problems and it feels comforting to know that I am not the only one who is waiting tensely (before anything else happens) until the school year ends. I have an eight year old son who has just come down with full blown OCD, which we think was aggravated by a stressful school situation. You asked about medication which I can't help you with as I would only use it as a last resort in a child. I have been doing a lot of reading lately (this forum plus any book I can find). Tamar Chansky's book, Freeing Your Child from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is excellent. Today I was reading somewhat technical (but worth the effort) articles off of " OCD Online " website. This is a website put together by a Dr. on, who is a cognitive therapist. He has a large clinic and he is in the New York area. The lesson for me today (from my reading) is that we are helping our child when we let them experience anxiety. My son will ask repeatedly for reassurance. He will apologize when he hasn't done anything (because he gets an image of some minor mistake that he has made in the past and this causes him anxiety). Yesterday when he did this, I just said quietly (we were at a Mrs. Field's cookie shop), " don't let it boss you around. " I think he felt empowered (this is a technique from Chansky if I'm using it right) and we went and sat down and ate our cookies. Today, he was asking me repeatedly if I loved him. It was an " OCD " type of questioning. I did--what I never like to do with children (because I remember when I was a kid how I used to hate it when adults would ignore me)-- I didn't respond. This caused him anxiety--but this was what he was supposed to feel. What he was getting was what behaviorists call an " exposure. " My son tried to get a little bossy and then tried to bribe me with a cookie, but I said nothing. About a half hour later I gave him special check mark and positive reinforcement for sitting through that anxiety. Tomorrow and I are going to see a cognitive behavioral psychologist who was trained at UCLA. She knows Chansky and she knows March's work. I have been trying to get help for about a month, and she will be the third therapist. we will have seen. I want someone who is excellent and who knows this stuff. We are driving about sixty miles into L.A. to see her--but I feel it is worth it. I feel I am helping to save my son's life. When I read Chansky's book, I wanted to go to Philadelphia. It is hard to find therapists who are properly trained in this area and who will work with children. I think there is a factory system with children these days and medications. It is easier to put children (with their developing brains) on medications than it is to do the hard work of good cognitive behavioral therapy. Medication might be necesary for some children--but I have heard that when the child goes off of it, then the symptoms come back. I would rather my son be empowered with skills to confront and face OCD--which he can then use his whole life. I wish you and your son the best of luck and understand when you say he is frustrated by the " impulses " to touch and with even numbers. My son is going through this also. I wish your son and you best of luck. I hope you are able to find the medication and therapy that will work best for your son. Sincerely, Alyssa On Mon, 06 May 2002 02:08:10 -0000 " lscalera " writes: > I am new to this as I am a parent of a child who has OCD. I would > really like to speak to any parent who has some information > regarding > medications that have worked for their child. My son, who is 10, > has > not had any luck with any meds because he seems to get the side > effects that they come with. It there is one to be had, my son > gets > it. He is presently on Celexa, 10mg for 3 months. When we > attempted > to up the dose slowly, 12mg...he became extremely hyper, non-stop. > > He was diagnosed with ADHD at first when he was 6, but the OCD just > > seems to be more prevalent. We just started Cognitive Therapy, and > > hoping that it will help. He is extremely frustrated with his > impulses, (touches things over and over, in even #s, to the point > where it is so hard for him to concentrate. When he is involved in > > activities though, he dosent seem to have the OCD symptoms. They > come out when he worries or is nervous about something. > I would appreciate any information that any parent can give me, also > > it would nice to talk to someone who understands what we are going > through. I am in the the NY area, so if anyone can add what drs or > > therapists too that they have had luck with, it would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 Dear " Iscalera " and everyone else , I am new to this group also. I have been enjoying reading the various " posts. " I can identify with the various school problems and it feels comforting to know that I am not the only one who is waiting tensely (before anything else happens) until the school year ends. I have an eight year old son who has just come down with full blown OCD, which we think was aggravated by a stressful school situation. You asked about medication which I can't help you with as I would only use it as a last resort in a child. I have been doing a lot of reading lately (this forum plus any book I can find). Tamar Chansky's book, Freeing Your Child from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is excellent. Today I was reading somewhat technical (but worth the effort) articles off of " OCD Online " website. This is a website put together by a Dr. on, who is a cognitive therapist. He has a large clinic and he is in the New York area. The lesson for me today (from my reading) is that we are helping our child when we let them experience anxiety. My son will ask repeatedly for reassurance. He will apologize when he hasn't done anything (because he gets an image of some minor mistake that he has made in the past and this causes him anxiety). Yesterday when he did this, I just said quietly (we were at a Mrs. Field's cookie shop), " don't let it boss you around. " I think he felt empowered (this is a technique from Chansky if I'm using it right) and we went and sat down and ate our cookies. Today, he was asking me repeatedly if I loved him. It was an " OCD " type of questioning. I did--what I never like to do with children (because I remember when I was a kid how I used to hate it when adults would ignore me)-- I didn't respond. This caused him anxiety--but this was what he was supposed to feel. What he was getting was what behaviorists call an " exposure. " My son tried to get a little bossy and then tried to bribe me with a cookie, but I said nothing. About a half hour later I gave him special check mark and positive reinforcement for sitting through that anxiety. Tomorrow and I are going to see a cognitive behavioral psychologist who was trained at UCLA. She knows Chansky and she knows March's work. I have been trying to get help for about a month, and she will be the third therapist. we will have seen. I want someone who is excellent and who knows this stuff. We are driving about sixty miles into L.A. to see her--but I feel it is worth it. I feel I am helping to save my son's life. When I read Chansky's book, I wanted to go to Philadelphia. It is hard to find therapists who are properly trained in this area and who will work with children. I think there is a factory system with children these days and medications. It is easier to put children (with their developing brains) on medications than it is to do the hard work of good cognitive behavioral therapy. Medication might be necesary for some children--but I have heard that when the child goes off of it, then the symptoms come back. I would rather my son be empowered with skills to confront and face OCD--which he can then use his whole life. I wish you and your son the best of luck and understand when you say he is frustrated by the " impulses " to touch and with even numbers. My son is going through this also. I wish your son and you best of luck. I hope you are able to find the medication and therapy that will work best for your son. Sincerely, Alyssa On Mon, 06 May 2002 02:08:10 -0000 " lscalera " writes: > I am new to this as I am a parent of a child who has OCD. I would > really like to speak to any parent who has some information > regarding > medications that have worked for their child. My son, who is 10, > has > not had any luck with any meds because he seems to get the side > effects that they come with. It there is one to be had, my son > gets > it. He is presently on Celexa, 10mg for 3 months. When we > attempted > to up the dose slowly, 12mg...he became extremely hyper, non-stop. > > He was diagnosed with ADHD at first when he was 6, but the OCD just > > seems to be more prevalent. We just started Cognitive Therapy, and > > hoping that it will help. He is extremely frustrated with his > impulses, (touches things over and over, in even #s, to the point > where it is so hard for him to concentrate. When he is involved in > > activities though, he dosent seem to have the OCD symptoms. They > come out when he worries or is nervous about something. > I would appreciate any information that any parent can give me, also > > it would nice to talk to someone who understands what we are going > through. I am in the the NY area, so if anyone can add what drs or > > therapists too that they have had luck with, it would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 Dear " Iscalera " and everyone else , I am new to this group also. I have been enjoying reading the various " posts. " I can identify with the various school problems and it feels comforting to know that I am not the only one who is waiting tensely (before anything else happens) until the school year ends. I have an eight year old son who has just come down with full blown OCD, which we think was aggravated by a stressful school situation. You asked about medication which I can't help you with as I would only use it as a last resort in a child. I have been doing a lot of reading lately (this forum plus any book I can find). Tamar Chansky's book, Freeing Your Child from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is excellent. Today I was reading somewhat technical (but worth the effort) articles off of " OCD Online " website. This is a website put together by a Dr. on, who is a cognitive therapist. He has a large clinic and he is in the New York area. The lesson for me today (from my reading) is that we are helping our child when we let them experience anxiety. My son will ask repeatedly for reassurance. He will apologize when he hasn't done anything (because he gets an image of some minor mistake that he has made in the past and this causes him anxiety). Yesterday when he did this, I just said quietly (we were at a Mrs. Field's cookie shop), " don't let it boss you around. " I think he felt empowered (this is a technique from Chansky if I'm using it right) and we went and sat down and ate our cookies. Today, he was asking me repeatedly if I loved him. It was an " OCD " type of questioning. I did--what I never like to do with children (because I remember when I was a kid how I used to hate it when adults would ignore me)-- I didn't respond. This caused him anxiety--but this was what he was supposed to feel. What he was getting was what behaviorists call an " exposure. " My son tried to get a little bossy and then tried to bribe me with a cookie, but I said nothing. About a half hour later I gave him special check mark and positive reinforcement for sitting through that anxiety. Tomorrow and I are going to see a cognitive behavioral psychologist who was trained at UCLA. She knows Chansky and she knows March's work. I have been trying to get help for about a month, and she will be the third therapist. we will have seen. I want someone who is excellent and who knows this stuff. We are driving about sixty miles into L.A. to see her--but I feel it is worth it. I feel I am helping to save my son's life. When I read Chansky's book, I wanted to go to Philadelphia. It is hard to find therapists who are properly trained in this area and who will work with children. I think there is a factory system with children these days and medications. It is easier to put children (with their developing brains) on medications than it is to do the hard work of good cognitive behavioral therapy. Medication might be necesary for some children--but I have heard that when the child goes off of it, then the symptoms come back. I would rather my son be empowered with skills to confront and face OCD--which he can then use his whole life. I wish you and your son the best of luck and understand when you say he is frustrated by the " impulses " to touch and with even numbers. My son is going through this also. I wish your son and you best of luck. I hope you are able to find the medication and therapy that will work best for your son. Sincerely, Alyssa On Mon, 06 May 2002 02:08:10 -0000 " lscalera " writes: > I am new to this as I am a parent of a child who has OCD. I would > really like to speak to any parent who has some information > regarding > medications that have worked for their child. My son, who is 10, > has > not had any luck with any meds because he seems to get the side > effects that they come with. It there is one to be had, my son > gets > it. He is presently on Celexa, 10mg for 3 months. When we > attempted > to up the dose slowly, 12mg...he became extremely hyper, non-stop. > > He was diagnosed with ADHD at first when he was 6, but the OCD just > > seems to be more prevalent. We just started Cognitive Therapy, and > > hoping that it will help. He is extremely frustrated with his > impulses, (touches things over and over, in even #s, to the point > where it is so hard for him to concentrate. When he is involved in > > activities though, he dosent seem to have the OCD symptoms. They > come out when he worries or is nervous about something. > I would appreciate any information that any parent can give me, also > > it would nice to talk to someone who understands what we are going > through. I am in the the NY area, so if anyone can add what drs or > > therapists too that they have had luck with, it would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2002 Report Share Posted May 6, 2002 Hi, I too have a 10 yr old son (soon to be 11) with OCD and has been on Zoloft for over 2 years now and is in therapy. It has been a really slow process but we have made much progress. He also has other medical issues which get in the way of his recovering from the OCD ... allergies and asthma....and the two of them really play on his OCD. When his asthma gets cranked up ... then his OCD goes haywire. He obsesses about his breathing and is afraid of dying from a reaction. It's very hard somedays but I have to say we have come a long way. I'm currently reading a book called Freeing Your Child from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder that someone in the group recommended to me. It's written by Tamar Chansky and it has really helped me. Get this if you can ... it will be a great help to you and your son. As far as the Zoloft is concerned, we're not really sure that it has helped much either. He's been on as high as 150mg and we are now slowly weaning him off to see how he does. He feels that the progress he has made has been mostly from the therapy so we are trying to go drug free for the summer to see how he does while school is out. I do feel that the medication helped him until the therapy was in place however. I'm learning the hard way that there isn't a magical answer for what is right for my child but we are struggling hard to find what works and it has gotten much, much better and it will for you too. You're headed in the right direction just by getting him help. One thing though ... check with your therapist and see if the manuel they are following to treat your son is the work of Dr. March and Mulle. This is the state of the art treatment for OCD in children and it's the manual that our pshychologist follows. Good luck. glenda in NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2002 Report Share Posted May 6, 2002 Hi, I too have a 10 yr old son (soon to be 11) with OCD and has been on Zoloft for over 2 years now and is in therapy. It has been a really slow process but we have made much progress. He also has other medical issues which get in the way of his recovering from the OCD ... allergies and asthma....and the two of them really play on his OCD. When his asthma gets cranked up ... then his OCD goes haywire. He obsesses about his breathing and is afraid of dying from a reaction. It's very hard somedays but I have to say we have come a long way. I'm currently reading a book called Freeing Your Child from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder that someone in the group recommended to me. It's written by Tamar Chansky and it has really helped me. Get this if you can ... it will be a great help to you and your son. As far as the Zoloft is concerned, we're not really sure that it has helped much either. He's been on as high as 150mg and we are now slowly weaning him off to see how he does. He feels that the progress he has made has been mostly from the therapy so we are trying to go drug free for the summer to see how he does while school is out. I do feel that the medication helped him until the therapy was in place however. I'm learning the hard way that there isn't a magical answer for what is right for my child but we are struggling hard to find what works and it has gotten much, much better and it will for you too. You're headed in the right direction just by getting him help. One thing though ... check with your therapist and see if the manuel they are following to treat your son is the work of Dr. March and Mulle. This is the state of the art treatment for OCD in children and it's the manual that our pshychologist follows. Good luck. glenda in NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2002 Report Share Posted May 6, 2002 Hi, I too have a 10 yr old son (soon to be 11) with OCD and has been on Zoloft for over 2 years now and is in therapy. It has been a really slow process but we have made much progress. He also has other medical issues which get in the way of his recovering from the OCD ... allergies and asthma....and the two of them really play on his OCD. When his asthma gets cranked up ... then his OCD goes haywire. He obsesses about his breathing and is afraid of dying from a reaction. It's very hard somedays but I have to say we have come a long way. I'm currently reading a book called Freeing Your Child from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder that someone in the group recommended to me. It's written by Tamar Chansky and it has really helped me. Get this if you can ... it will be a great help to you and your son. As far as the Zoloft is concerned, we're not really sure that it has helped much either. He's been on as high as 150mg and we are now slowly weaning him off to see how he does. He feels that the progress he has made has been mostly from the therapy so we are trying to go drug free for the summer to see how he does while school is out. I do feel that the medication helped him until the therapy was in place however. I'm learning the hard way that there isn't a magical answer for what is right for my child but we are struggling hard to find what works and it has gotten much, much better and it will for you too. You're headed in the right direction just by getting him help. One thing though ... check with your therapist and see if the manuel they are following to treat your son is the work of Dr. March and Mulle. This is the state of the art treatment for OCD in children and it's the manual that our pshychologist follows. Good luck. glenda in NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2002 Report Share Posted May 6, 2002 dear everyone, im also new to this group, i have a 10 year old son, who was diagnosised with ocd in feb, me and my husband knew something was going on for almost a year, but tried to talk to him, we were iliterate on the subject, we feel horrible, is now on 75 miligrams of zoloft daily and is attending therapy sessions every 10 days, we seem to be getting no where, he was also diagnosised with depression and generalized anxiety disorder, if you have time, i would like all the help i can get, thank you rondy Re: (unknown) Dear " Iscalera " and everyone else , I am new to this group also. I have been enjoying reading the various " posts. " I can identify with the various school problems and it feels comforting to know that I am not the only one who is waiting tensely (before anything else happens) until the school year ends. I have an eight year old son who has just come down with full blown OCD, which we think was aggravated by a stressful school situation. You asked about medication which I can't help you with as I would only use it as a last resort in a child. I have been doing a lot of reading lately (this forum plus any book I can find). Tamar Chansky's book, Freeing Your Child from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is excellent. Today I was reading somewhat technical (but worth the effort) articles off of " OCD Online " website. This is a website put together by a Dr. on, who is a cognitive therapist. He has a large clinic and he is in the New York area. The lesson for me today (from my reading) is that we are helping our child when we let them experience anxiety. My son will ask repeatedly for reassurance. He will apologize when he hasn't done anything (because he gets an image of some minor mistake that he has made in the past and this causes him anxiety). Yesterday when he did this, I just said quietly (we were at a Mrs. Field's cookie shop), " don't let it boss you around. " I think he felt empowered (this is a technique from Chansky if I'm using it right) and we went and sat down and ate our cookies. Today, he was asking me repeatedly if I loved him. It was an " OCD " type of questioning. I did--what I never like to do with children (because I remember when I was a kid how I used to hate it when adults would ignore me)-- I didn't respond. This caused him anxiety--but this was what he was supposed to feel. What he was getting was what behaviorists call an " exposure. " My son tried to get a little bossy and then tried to bribe me with a cookie, but I said nothing. About a half hour later I gave him special check mark and positive reinforcement for sitting through that anxiety. Tomorrow and I are going to see a cognitive behavioral psychologist who was trained at UCLA. She knows Chansky and she knows March's work. I have been trying to get help for about a month, and she will be the third therapist. we will have seen. I want someone who is excellent and who knows this stuff. We are driving about sixty miles into L.A. to see her--but I feel it is worth it. I feel I am helping to save my son's life. When I read Chansky's book, I wanted to go to Philadelphia. It is hard to find therapists who are properly trained in this area and who will work with children. I think there is a factory system with children these days and medications. It is easier to put children (with their developing brains) on medications than it is to do the hard work of good cognitive behavioral therapy. Medication might be necesary for some children--but I have heard that when the child goes off of it, then the symptoms come back. I would rather my son be empowered with skills to confront and face OCD--which he can then use his whole life. I wish you and your son the best of luck and understand when you say he is frustrated by the " impulses " to touch and with even numbers. My son is going through this also. I wish your son and you best of luck. I hope you are able to find the medication and therapy that will work best for your son. Sincerely, Alyssa On Mon, 06 May 2002 02:08:10 -0000 " lscalera " writes: > I am new to this as I am a parent of a child who has OCD. I would > really like to speak to any parent who has some information > regarding > medications that have worked for their child. My son, who is 10, > has > not had any luck with any meds because he seems to get the side > effects that they come with. It there is one to be had, my son > gets > it. He is presently on Celexa, 10mg for 3 months. When we > attempted > to up the dose slowly, 12mg...he became extremely hyper, non-stop. > > He was diagnosed with ADHD at first when he was 6, but the OCD just > > seems to be more prevalent. We just started Cognitive Therapy, and > > hoping that it will help. He is extremely frustrated with his > impulses, (touches things over and over, in even #s, to the point > where it is so hard for him to concentrate. When he is involved in > > activities though, he dosent seem to have the OCD symptoms. They > come out when he worries or is nervous about something. > I would appreciate any information that any parent can give me, also > > it would nice to talk to someone who understands what we are going > through. I am in the the NY area, so if anyone can add what drs or > > therapists too that they have had luck with, it would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2002 Report Share Posted May 6, 2002 dear everyone, im also new to this group, i have a 10 year old son, who was diagnosised with ocd in feb, me and my husband knew something was going on for almost a year, but tried to talk to him, we were iliterate on the subject, we feel horrible, is now on 75 miligrams of zoloft daily and is attending therapy sessions every 10 days, we seem to be getting no where, he was also diagnosised with depression and generalized anxiety disorder, if you have time, i would like all the help i can get, thank you rondy Re: (unknown) Dear " Iscalera " and everyone else , I am new to this group also. I have been enjoying reading the various " posts. " I can identify with the various school problems and it feels comforting to know that I am not the only one who is waiting tensely (before anything else happens) until the school year ends. I have an eight year old son who has just come down with full blown OCD, which we think was aggravated by a stressful school situation. You asked about medication which I can't help you with as I would only use it as a last resort in a child. I have been doing a lot of reading lately (this forum plus any book I can find). Tamar Chansky's book, Freeing Your Child from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is excellent. Today I was reading somewhat technical (but worth the effort) articles off of " OCD Online " website. This is a website put together by a Dr. on, who is a cognitive therapist. He has a large clinic and he is in the New York area. The lesson for me today (from my reading) is that we are helping our child when we let them experience anxiety. My son will ask repeatedly for reassurance. He will apologize when he hasn't done anything (because he gets an image of some minor mistake that he has made in the past and this causes him anxiety). Yesterday when he did this, I just said quietly (we were at a Mrs. Field's cookie shop), " don't let it boss you around. " I think he felt empowered (this is a technique from Chansky if I'm using it right) and we went and sat down and ate our cookies. Today, he was asking me repeatedly if I loved him. It was an " OCD " type of questioning. I did--what I never like to do with children (because I remember when I was a kid how I used to hate it when adults would ignore me)-- I didn't respond. This caused him anxiety--but this was what he was supposed to feel. What he was getting was what behaviorists call an " exposure. " My son tried to get a little bossy and then tried to bribe me with a cookie, but I said nothing. About a half hour later I gave him special check mark and positive reinforcement for sitting through that anxiety. Tomorrow and I are going to see a cognitive behavioral psychologist who was trained at UCLA. She knows Chansky and she knows March's work. I have been trying to get help for about a month, and she will be the third therapist. we will have seen. I want someone who is excellent and who knows this stuff. We are driving about sixty miles into L.A. to see her--but I feel it is worth it. I feel I am helping to save my son's life. When I read Chansky's book, I wanted to go to Philadelphia. It is hard to find therapists who are properly trained in this area and who will work with children. I think there is a factory system with children these days and medications. It is easier to put children (with their developing brains) on medications than it is to do the hard work of good cognitive behavioral therapy. Medication might be necesary for some children--but I have heard that when the child goes off of it, then the symptoms come back. I would rather my son be empowered with skills to confront and face OCD--which he can then use his whole life. I wish you and your son the best of luck and understand when you say he is frustrated by the " impulses " to touch and with even numbers. My son is going through this also. I wish your son and you best of luck. I hope you are able to find the medication and therapy that will work best for your son. Sincerely, Alyssa On Mon, 06 May 2002 02:08:10 -0000 " lscalera " writes: > I am new to this as I am a parent of a child who has OCD. I would > really like to speak to any parent who has some information > regarding > medications that have worked for their child. My son, who is 10, > has > not had any luck with any meds because he seems to get the side > effects that they come with. It there is one to be had, my son > gets > it. He is presently on Celexa, 10mg for 3 months. When we > attempted > to up the dose slowly, 12mg...he became extremely hyper, non-stop. > > He was diagnosed with ADHD at first when he was 6, but the OCD just > > seems to be more prevalent. We just started Cognitive Therapy, and > > hoping that it will help. He is extremely frustrated with his > impulses, (touches things over and over, in even #s, to the point > where it is so hard for him to concentrate. When he is involved in > > activities though, he dosent seem to have the OCD symptoms. They > come out when he worries or is nervous about something. > I would appreciate any information that any parent can give me, also > > it would nice to talk to someone who understands what we are going > through. I am in the the NY area, so if anyone can add what drs or > > therapists too that they have had luck with, it would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2002 Report Share Posted May 6, 2002 dear everyone, im also new to this group, i have a 10 year old son, who was diagnosised with ocd in feb, me and my husband knew something was going on for almost a year, but tried to talk to him, we were iliterate on the subject, we feel horrible, is now on 75 miligrams of zoloft daily and is attending therapy sessions every 10 days, we seem to be getting no where, he was also diagnosised with depression and generalized anxiety disorder, if you have time, i would like all the help i can get, thank you rondy Re: (unknown) Dear " Iscalera " and everyone else , I am new to this group also. I have been enjoying reading the various " posts. " I can identify with the various school problems and it feels comforting to know that I am not the only one who is waiting tensely (before anything else happens) until the school year ends. I have an eight year old son who has just come down with full blown OCD, which we think was aggravated by a stressful school situation. You asked about medication which I can't help you with as I would only use it as a last resort in a child. I have been doing a lot of reading lately (this forum plus any book I can find). Tamar Chansky's book, Freeing Your Child from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is excellent. Today I was reading somewhat technical (but worth the effort) articles off of " OCD Online " website. This is a website put together by a Dr. on, who is a cognitive therapist. He has a large clinic and he is in the New York area. The lesson for me today (from my reading) is that we are helping our child when we let them experience anxiety. My son will ask repeatedly for reassurance. He will apologize when he hasn't done anything (because he gets an image of some minor mistake that he has made in the past and this causes him anxiety). Yesterday when he did this, I just said quietly (we were at a Mrs. Field's cookie shop), " don't let it boss you around. " I think he felt empowered (this is a technique from Chansky if I'm using it right) and we went and sat down and ate our cookies. Today, he was asking me repeatedly if I loved him. It was an " OCD " type of questioning. I did--what I never like to do with children (because I remember when I was a kid how I used to hate it when adults would ignore me)-- I didn't respond. This caused him anxiety--but this was what he was supposed to feel. What he was getting was what behaviorists call an " exposure. " My son tried to get a little bossy and then tried to bribe me with a cookie, but I said nothing. About a half hour later I gave him special check mark and positive reinforcement for sitting through that anxiety. Tomorrow and I are going to see a cognitive behavioral psychologist who was trained at UCLA. She knows Chansky and she knows March's work. I have been trying to get help for about a month, and she will be the third therapist. we will have seen. I want someone who is excellent and who knows this stuff. We are driving about sixty miles into L.A. to see her--but I feel it is worth it. I feel I am helping to save my son's life. When I read Chansky's book, I wanted to go to Philadelphia. It is hard to find therapists who are properly trained in this area and who will work with children. I think there is a factory system with children these days and medications. It is easier to put children (with their developing brains) on medications than it is to do the hard work of good cognitive behavioral therapy. Medication might be necesary for some children--but I have heard that when the child goes off of it, then the symptoms come back. I would rather my son be empowered with skills to confront and face OCD--which he can then use his whole life. I wish you and your son the best of luck and understand when you say he is frustrated by the " impulses " to touch and with even numbers. My son is going through this also. I wish your son and you best of luck. I hope you are able to find the medication and therapy that will work best for your son. Sincerely, Alyssa On Mon, 06 May 2002 02:08:10 -0000 " lscalera " writes: > I am new to this as I am a parent of a child who has OCD. I would > really like to speak to any parent who has some information > regarding > medications that have worked for their child. My son, who is 10, > has > not had any luck with any meds because he seems to get the side > effects that they come with. It there is one to be had, my son > gets > it. He is presently on Celexa, 10mg for 3 months. When we > attempted > to up the dose slowly, 12mg...he became extremely hyper, non-stop. > > He was diagnosed with ADHD at first when he was 6, but the OCD just > > seems to be more prevalent. We just started Cognitive Therapy, and > > hoping that it will help. He is extremely frustrated with his > impulses, (touches things over and over, in even #s, to the point > where it is so hard for him to concentrate. When he is involved in > > activities though, he dosent seem to have the OCD symptoms. They > come out when he worries or is nervous about something. > I would appreciate any information that any parent can give me, also > > it would nice to talk to someone who understands what we are going > through. I am in the the NY area, so if anyone can add what drs or > > therapists too that they have had luck with, it would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 Thanks and Hope you had a Great Mother's Day!!!!!!:):)Tree:):) (unknown) Hiya ((((friends))))..just wanted to wish all the mothers on here an earlyHAPPY MOTHERS DAY!!!!!!! We are going to visit my mom for the weekend andshe lives about 3 hrs from me. So i am sure when i get home..i will have abunch of post to read..lol!So all have a great, safe, and painless weekend!!!!!Yall will be in mythoughts!!!!karen(tab17..poly)_________________________________________________________________MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 Have a SAVE TRIP ! and to all the wonderful MOM'S out there, I just want to take a moment to say, Happ Mothers' Day! to all..... She raises in the morning her love fille with love, her hands ready to toil. Laboring through out the day to see to the meeds of her loved ones. Undaunted by interruptions she carries out her tasks at hand. A scraped knee, a bruised elbow their first broken heart. Ever incompusing is the love of a Mothers' Heart! So to all you Beautiful Ladies, I bow my head in awe and sing a song of praise for you on this joyous Mother's Day! On Fri, 10 May 2002 07:31:46 -0400 "karens tribe" <nutsomom5@...> writes: Hiya ((((friends))))..just wanted to wish all the mothers on here an early HAPPY MOTHERS DAY!!!!!!! We are going to visit my mom for the weekend and she lives about 3 hrs from me. So i am sure when i get home..i will have a bunch of post to read..lol!So all have a great, safe, and painless weekend!!!!!Yall will be in my thoughts!!!!karen(tab17..poly)_________________________________________________________________MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 HAPPY MOTHERS DAY back at you lolol Robbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 In a message dated 5/10/2002 6:04:34 AM Central Daylight Time, s_bachrach@... writes: > Hello and welcome. Coffee is the eighth wonder of the world. Don't > give it up. It is a great thermogenic. Be sure to drink an equal > amount of water though because it tends to be a diuretic. So does > tea. Don't forget to use some non sugar sweetener in these beverages > to keep them authorized. > > That is So good to know... (that At least one person advocates Coffee on this program) I was half afraid Someone was going to eventually tell me Coffee was really bad for me on this program... And that would be terrible because it's totally my crutch right now. I had to give up the Diet Pepsi because even though the artificial Sweetener doesn't have calories it does still raise your Blood sugar ( There's No way in heck I can quit the caffeine Cold turkey... and Besides that, I just dont want to, LOL I miss my Diet Pepsi terribly and plan to have one on my free day tomorrow. I had made myself a deal when I started BFL that I would Drink all my required water in a day and still indulge in my coveted pop ... but then after about the 4th week and no progress with my weight or shape (other than firmer fat) I made a rule that I would cut back on the pop, and that when ever I did Drink a can of diet Pepsi I would Drink 2 more glasses of water... As you can tell I was really reluctant to quit the pop..and willing to go to some lenghts to keep it. (it's what makes My Life livable and I want to do a diet and exercise program that I can Live with, I felt that cutting out the pop would make me feel very deprived and would eventually lead to me failing and quitting the program) So then after 8 weeks and no results (after I did Quit BFL) I decided to try and find out why I was getting no results and what I could do about it... found out about the insulin resistance probelm some people have (especially Thyroid People) and decided to get right back on the program before losing any more ground and try changing the diet portion of the program to account for the Glycemic ramifications. Amost everything I've read so far say no diet soft drinks.. ( So I've switched to coffee and although I'm Drinking my water...I also Drink At least a pot of black Coffee a day (this Low Glycemic Stuff is not very exciting eating I've GOT to have something left to me, ya know?) The Wonderful News is that I have lost Some Weight this Week! I have lost 2lbs and 2% body fat ... (if my Tanita Scale can be trusted) And what is even Better.... For the very first time since Starting BFL 10 weeks ago my pants feel slightly looser.... And that never happened the whole 8 weeks I was so religious on the program. In 8 whole weeks I'd only lost 4 lbs and 2% BF. I dont expect 2lbs and 2 % every week, but man I really needed to see this change... My whole Mental outlook needed it in the worst way. Bec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2002 Report Share Posted May 11, 2002 Hey Bec, I am a huge coffee fan (just didn't want you and Stasia to feel alone). I also drink at least a pot (black) a day and sometimes 2! (I use the french press style so that is probably the equivalent of 6 mugs). I drink one pot from 7:30-noon and the second (if I have it) from 3:00-7:00pm. I know I am addicted to it but for now I just don't care. I have lost 54 lbs as of last Sunday. I gave up alcohol completely on 11/26/01 and can't give up EVERYTHING!! Park Re: (unknown) In a message dated 5/10/2002 6:04:34 AM Central Daylight Time, s_bachrach@... writes: > Hello and welcome. Coffee is the eighth wonder of the world. Don't > give it up. It is a great thermogenic. Be sure to drink an equal > amount of water though because it tends to be a diuretic. So does > tea. Don't forget to use some non sugar sweetener in these beverages > to keep them authorized. > > That is So good to know... (that At least one person advocates Coffee on this program) I was half afraid Someone was going to eventually tell me Coffee was really bad for me on this program... And that would be terrible because it's totally my crutch right now. I had to give up the Diet Pepsi because even though the artificial Sweetener doesn't have calories it does still raise your Blood sugar ( There's No way in heck I can quit the caffeine Cold turkey... and Besides that, I just dont want to, LOL I miss my Diet Pepsi terribly and plan to have one on my free day tomorrow. I had made myself a deal when I started BFL that I would Drink all my required water in a day and still indulge in my coveted pop ... but then after about the 4th week and no progress with my weight or shape (other than firmer fat) I made a rule that I would cut back on the pop, and that when ever I did Drink a can of diet Pepsi I would Drink 2 more glasses of water... As you can tell I was really reluctant to quit the pop..and willing to go to some lenghts to keep it. (it's what makes My Life livable and I want to do a diet and exercise program that I can Live with, I felt that cutting out the pop would make me feel very deprived and would eventually lead to me failing and quitting the program) So then after 8 weeks and no results (after I did Quit BFL) I decided to try and find out why I was getting no results and what I could do about it... found out about the insulin resistance probelm some people have (especially Thyroid People) and decided to get right back on the program before losing any more ground and try changing the diet portion of the program to account for the Glycemic ramifications. Amost everything I've read so far say no diet soft drinks.. ( So I've switched to coffee and although I'm Drinking my water...I also Drink At least a pot of black Coffee a day (this Low Glycemic Stuff is not very exciting eating I've GOT to have something left to me, ya know?) The Wonderful News is that I have lost Some Weight this Week! I have lost 2lbs and 2% body fat ... (if my Tanita Scale can be trusted) And what is even Better.... For the very first time since Starting BFL 10 weeks ago my pants feel slightly looser.... And that never happened the whole 8 weeks I was so religious on the program. In 8 whole weeks I'd only lost 4 lbs and 2% BF. I dont expect 2lbs and 2 % every week, but man I really needed to see this change... My whole Mental outlook needed it in the worst way. Bec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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