Re: It's unbelievable

[Guest guest]

hi lloyde...

 

so you didnt finish treatment huh...i have not done anything this far,just

eating good and taking liver formula and milk thistle. ive had this bout 14 yrs

and feel perfectly normal,as far as my liver well i have no clue wat that may

look like but im to scared to do biopsy/treatment,i have excellent insurance but

im just to freaked out about how treatment may make me feel,i have enough

depression off and on i dont need to aggrivate it any worst either. anyhow,youve

had this quite awhile,how is your health for the most part? do you work? i made

it threw the early seventies without falling prey to the needle,i was totally

against that shit. i was 8 months p.g. and me and my boyfriend watched his

friend shoot up about 10 times in a row and god only knows how long he was doing

it before we got there,it was pretty gross,he was a fanatic about it,im sure hes

got hep and probably dead by now. after he shot all that crap up,he and a chick

went to disney world in

florida and he o.d. right in the middle of it,crazy stuff...i was married 17

yrs and divorced in 91 and was dating a guy for 4 yrs,broke off with him,just

hanging out with friends after that and which was in 95,i went to a house party

and a guy i knew ask if i wanted to and i did it 1 time 1 fricken time,when i

look back i remember him doing it first and then he did me,i still cant believe

i did it,yep...i was drinking!!! my daughter is thee only one that knows the

truth,other family members and some people in here i told was from my tattoo,but

we really dont know do we...im sure it was from the needle,how embarressing!!!

now we pay... 

From: h.fertig <h.fertig (DOT) com>

Subject: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

oooh, how did your biopsy turn out?

From: h.fertig <h.fertig (DOT) com>

Subject: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

oooh, how did your biopsy turn out?

From: h.fertig <h.fertig (DOT) com>

Subject: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

Hey Deb, The biopsy was both good and bad. The good meaning after all these

yrs my liver was still in early deterioration and the bad was out of the many

strains of hep c I have the hardest to get rid of. The biopsy itself was a

breeze. Still I have fatigue and as a result of the treatment I take

anti-depressents but I dont want to discourage anyone from taking the medication

because it has a pretty good success rate. I have been in AA and sober for the

last 20 yrs and seen a lot of people use interferon with success and I would say

about 20 per cent had to quit treatment because of depression or a bad reaction

to it. The only way to know for yourself is to go on it and see. Just because I

cant take it doesnt mean that you cant. Will pray for you dear. Lloyd

________________________________

From: deborah brown <heaven_scent_in_55@...>

Hepatitis C

Cc: deborah kay mand <heaven_scent_in_55@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:36:15 PM

Subject: Re: It's unbelievable

oooh, how did your biopsy turn out?

From: h.fertig <h.fertig (DOT) com>

Subject: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

Hey Deb, The biopsy was both good and bad. The good meaning after all these

yrs my liver was still in early deterioration and the bad was out of the many

strains of hep c I have the hardest to get rid of. The biopsy itself was a

breeze. Still I have fatigue and as a result of the treatment I take

anti-depressents but I dont want to discourage anyone from taking the medication

because it has a pretty good success rate. I have been in AA and sober for the

last 20 yrs and seen a lot of people use interferon with success and I would say

about 20 per cent had to quit treatment because of depression or a bad reaction

to it. The only way to know for yourself is to go on it and see. Just because I

cant take it doesnt mean that you cant. Will pray for you dear. Lloyd

________________________________

From: deborah brown <heaven_scent_in_55@...>

Hepatitis C

Cc: deborah kay mand <heaven_scent_in_55@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:36:15 PM

Subject: Re: It's unbelievable

oooh, how did your biopsy turn out?

From: h.fertig <h.fertig (DOT) com>

Subject: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

well,thats good that your liver is early stage then ...the thing i dont get is

that they say a high viral load doesnt mean more damage,how can that be because

it sounds to me like if theres high virus load then theres been more virus

avtivity going on in the liver so that i dont really understand. my v.l. was

244,000 in feb 09 but im doing the a and b hep series shots to be safe and i

heard those shots can raise v.l. but it goes back then to what they said that

high load dont mean more damage,kinda weird thou. i want a fibrosure test but

they wont do it,they want my ins. moneies for treatment lol so im gonna find

another doc!

From: h.fertig <h.fertig (DOT) com>

Subject: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

well,thats good that your liver is early stage then ...the thing i dont get is

that they say a high viral load doesnt mean more damage,how can that be because

it sounds to me like if theres high virus load then theres been more virus

avtivity going on in the liver so that i dont really understand. my v.l. was

244,000 in feb 09 but im doing the a and b hep series shots to be safe and i

heard those shots can raise v.l. but it goes back then to what they said that

high load dont mean more damage,kinda weird thou. i want a fibrosure test but

they wont do it,they want my ins. moneies for treatment lol so im gonna find

another doc!

From: h.fertig <h.fertig (DOT) com>

Subject: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

Lloyd,

I was severely depressed during the process of 8 months of taking interferon. My

doctor stopped mine because I was nonresponsive and my white count dropped to

1.4 I was feeling like warmed over death.

I am sober also go to church some but usually spend quiet time or take nice

walk without the children sunday and have time to talk to God. Which helps me

much more than the rolled eye back row church goers in my small town. lol.

Anyways just lately I am not depressed so much just so cotton pickin angry. I

count to 10 a lot and I use to not let myself get mad ever. But even today I was

mad at a doctor about something and I asked a coworker could she tell I was mad

as a wet hen. She says I never would have thought you were mad. So I guess

people cant tell or they dont say anything lol. I yelled at a telemarketer last

saturday morning. I felt really bad lol. So yes in recovery they say keep it

simple stupid lol. Me I feel like I keep my feelings on my sleeve. But I am

still trunkin. Not doped up and got this cutie pie little boy over here showing

me his 2 little teeth popping out. So I am not doing to bad. Have a roof over my

head, a full tummy and a good movie to watch on tv.

have a nice night all

It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't

Know ??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

Lloyd,

I was severely depressed during the process of 8 months of taking interferon. My

doctor stopped mine because I was nonresponsive and my white count dropped to

1.4 I was feeling like warmed over death.

I am sober also go to church some but usually spend quiet time or take nice

walk without the children sunday and have time to talk to God. Which helps me

much more than the rolled eye back row church goers in my small town. lol.

Anyways just lately I am not depressed so much just so cotton pickin angry. I

count to 10 a lot and I use to not let myself get mad ever. But even today I was

mad at a doctor about something and I asked a coworker could she tell I was mad

as a wet hen. She says I never would have thought you were mad. So I guess

people cant tell or they dont say anything lol. I yelled at a telemarketer last

saturday morning. I felt really bad lol. So yes in recovery they say keep it

simple stupid lol. Me I feel like I keep my feelings on my sleeve. But I am

still trunkin. Not doped up and got this cutie pie little boy over here showing

me his 2 little teeth popping out. So I am not doing to bad. Have a roof over my

head, a full tummy and a good movie to watch on tv.

have a nice night all

It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't

Know ??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

Lloyd,

I was severely depressed during the process of 8 months of taking interferon. My

doctor stopped mine because I was nonresponsive and my white count dropped to

1.4 I was feeling like warmed over death.

I am sober also go to church some but usually spend quiet time or take nice

walk without the children sunday and have time to talk to God. Which helps me

much more than the rolled eye back row church goers in my small town. lol.

Anyways just lately I am not depressed so much just so cotton pickin angry. I

count to 10 a lot and I use to not let myself get mad ever. But even today I was

mad at a doctor about something and I asked a coworker could she tell I was mad

as a wet hen. She says I never would have thought you were mad. So I guess

people cant tell or they dont say anything lol. I yelled at a telemarketer last

saturday morning. I felt really bad lol. So yes in recovery they say keep it

simple stupid lol. Me I feel like I keep my feelings on my sleeve. But I am

still trunkin. Not doped up and got this cutie pie little boy over here showing

me his 2 little teeth popping out. So I am not doing to bad. Have a roof over my

head, a full tummy and a good movie to watch on tv.

have a nice night all

It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't

Know ??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

Lloyd,

I was severely depressed during the process of 8 months of taking interferon. My

doctor stopped mine because I was nonresponsive and my white count dropped to

1.4 I was feeling like warmed over death.

I am sober also go to church some but usually spend quiet time or take nice

walk without the children sunday and have time to talk to God. Which helps me

much more than the rolled eye back row church goers in my small town. lol.

Anyways just lately I am not depressed so much just so cotton pickin angry. I

count to 10 a lot and I use to not let myself get mad ever. But even today I was

mad at a doctor about something and I asked a coworker could she tell I was mad

as a wet hen. She says I never would have thought you were mad. So I guess

people cant tell or they dont say anything lol. I yelled at a telemarketer last

saturday morning. I felt really bad lol. So yes in recovery they say keep it

simple stupid lol. Me I feel like I keep my feelings on my sleeve. But I am

still trunkin. Not doped up and got this cutie pie little boy over here showing

me his 2 little teeth popping out. So I am not doing to bad. Have a roof over my

head, a full tummy and a good movie to watch on tv.

have a nice night all

It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't

Know ??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

I understand that the normal viral load is 0 and it doesnt matter if it is

100,000 or 300,000 it operates at the same speed on the liver. For the last 12

yrs every doctor I see sees that I have hep c and they have me get a blood test

and make a big deal about my viral load which is what it is but that will just

keep going up and down. What Im trying to say is that if your viral load is 0

you dont have hep and anywhere above that you do. I dont even look to see what

it is anymore because it doesnt really matter. There is no other way to get rid

of it other than interferon. Meanwhile I take a lot of milk thistel and

vitimans and try to get as much rest as possible. If anyone else out there

knows more about this than I do I would like to know. Lloyd

________________________________

From: deborah brown <heaven_scent_in_55@...>

Hepatitis C

Cc: deborah kay mand <heaven_scent_in_55@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:07:08 PM

Subject: Re: It's unbelievable

well,thats good that your liver is early stage then ...the thing i dont get is

that they say a high viral load doesnt mean more damage,how can that be because

it sounds to me like if theres high virus load then theres been more virus

avtivity going on in the liver so that i dont really understand. my v.l. was

244,000 in feb 09 but im doing the a and b hep series shots to be safe and i

heard those shots can raise v.l. but it goes back then to what they said that

high load dont mean more damage,kinda weird thou. i want a fibrosure test but

they wont do it,they want my ins. moneies for treatment lol so im gonna find

another doc!

From: h.fertig <h.fertig (DOT) com>

Subject: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

I understand that the normal viral load is 0 and it doesnt matter if it is

100,000 or 300,000 it operates at the same speed on the liver. For the last 12

yrs every doctor I see sees that I have hep c and they have me get a blood test

and make a big deal about my viral load which is what it is but that will just

keep going up and down. What Im trying to say is that if your viral load is 0

you dont have hep and anywhere above that you do. I dont even look to see what

it is anymore because it doesnt really matter. There is no other way to get rid

of it other than interferon. Meanwhile I take a lot of milk thistel and

vitimans and try to get as much rest as possible. If anyone else out there

knows more about this than I do I would like to know. Lloyd

________________________________

From: deborah brown <heaven_scent_in_55@...>

Hepatitis C

Cc: deborah kay mand <heaven_scent_in_55@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:07:08 PM

Subject: Re: It's unbelievable

well,thats good that your liver is early stage then ...the thing i dont get is

that they say a high viral load doesnt mean more damage,how can that be because

it sounds to me like if theres high virus load then theres been more virus

avtivity going on in the liver so that i dont really understand. my v.l. was

244,000 in feb 09 but im doing the a and b hep series shots to be safe and i

heard those shots can raise v.l. but it goes back then to what they said that

high load dont mean more damage,kinda weird thou. i want a fibrosure test but

they wont do it,they want my ins. moneies for treatment lol so im gonna find

another doc!

From: h.fertig <h.fertig (DOT) com>

Subject: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

I understand that the normal viral load is 0 and it doesnt matter if it is

100,000 or 300,000 it operates at the same speed on the liver. For the last 12

yrs every doctor I see sees that I have hep c and they have me get a blood test

and make a big deal about my viral load which is what it is but that will just

keep going up and down. What Im trying to say is that if your viral load is 0

you dont have hep and anywhere above that you do. I dont even look to see what

it is anymore because it doesnt really matter. There is no other way to get rid

of it other than interferon. Meanwhile I take a lot of milk thistel and

vitimans and try to get as much rest as possible. If anyone else out there

knows more about this than I do I would like to know. Lloyd

________________________________

From: deborah brown <heaven_scent_in_55@...>

Hepatitis C

Cc: deborah kay mand <heaven_scent_in_55@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:07:08 PM

Subject: Re: It's unbelievable

well,thats good that your liver is early stage then ...the thing i dont get is

that they say a high viral load doesnt mean more damage,how can that be because

it sounds to me like if theres high virus load then theres been more virus

avtivity going on in the liver so that i dont really understand. my v.l. was

244,000 in feb 09 but im doing the a and b hep series shots to be safe and i

heard those shots can raise v.l. but it goes back then to what they said that

high load dont mean more damage,kinda weird thou. i want a fibrosure test but

they wont do it,they want my ins. moneies for treatment lol so im gonna find

another doc!

From: h.fertig <h.fertig (DOT) com>

Subject: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

I understand that the normal viral load is 0 and it doesnt matter if it is

100,000 or 300,000 it operates at the same speed on the liver. For the last 12

yrs every doctor I see sees that I have hep c and they have me get a blood test

and make a big deal about my viral load which is what it is but that will just

keep going up and down. What Im trying to say is that if your viral load is 0

you dont have hep and anywhere above that you do. I dont even look to see what

it is anymore because it doesnt really matter. There is no other way to get rid

of it other than interferon. Meanwhile I take a lot of milk thistel and

vitimans and try to get as much rest as possible. If anyone else out there

knows more about this than I do I would like to know. Lloyd

________________________________

From: deborah brown <heaven_scent_in_55@...>

Hepatitis C

Cc: deborah kay mand <heaven_scent_in_55@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:07:08 PM

Subject: Re: It's unbelievable

well,thats good that your liver is early stage then ...the thing i dont get is

that they say a high viral load doesnt mean more damage,how can that be because

it sounds to me like if theres high virus load then theres been more virus

avtivity going on in the liver so that i dont really understand. my v.l. was

244,000 in feb 09 but im doing the a and b hep series shots to be safe and i

heard those shots can raise v.l. but it goes back then to what they said that

high load dont mean more damage,kinda weird thou. i want a fibrosure test but

they wont do it,they want my ins. moneies for treatment lol so im gonna find

another doc!

From: h.fertig <h.fertig (DOT) com>

Subject: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

Hey Em, I too am prone to anger especially the first 13 yrs but I turned a

corner when I found a real good church (never went in my life) and now its

better but not gone. The warmed over death feeling that I got from taking

Interferon actually helped me to experience (feel) evil while totaly sober so I

started concentrating on the opposite of that and I have never been happier.

Sounds like your a great mom. Lloyd

________________________________

From: emily <emily_sweethang@...>

Hepatitis C

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 7:35:58 PM

Subject: Re: It's unbelievable

Lloyd,

I was severely depressed during the process of 8 months of taking interferon. My

doctor stopped mine because I was nonresponsive and my white count dropped to

1.4 I was feeling like warmed over death.

I am sober also go to church some but usually spend quiet time or take nice

walk without the children sunday and have time to talk to God. Which helps me

much more than the rolled eye back row church goers in my small town. lol.

Anyways just lately I am not depressed so much just so cotton pickin angry. I

count to 10 a lot and I use to not let myself get mad ever. But even today I was

mad at a doctor about something and I asked a coworker could she tell I was mad

as a wet hen. She says I never would have thought you were mad. So I guess

people cant tell or they dont say anything lol. I yelled at a telemarketer last

saturday morning. I felt really bad lol. So yes in recovery they say keep it

simple stupid lol. Me I feel like I keep my feelings on my sleeve. But I am

still trunkin. Not doped up and got this cutie pie little boy over here showing

me his 2 little teeth popping out. So I am not doing to bad. Have a roof over my

head, a full tummy and a good movie to watch on tv.

have a nice night all

It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

Hey Em, I too am prone to anger especially the first 13 yrs but I turned a

corner when I found a real good church (never went in my life) and now its

better but not gone. The warmed over death feeling that I got from taking

Interferon actually helped me to experience (feel) evil while totaly sober so I

started concentrating on the opposite of that and I have never been happier.

Sounds like your a great mom. Lloyd

________________________________

From: emily <emily_sweethang@...>

Hepatitis C

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 7:35:58 PM

Subject: Re: It's unbelievable

Lloyd,

I was severely depressed during the process of 8 months of taking interferon. My

doctor stopped mine because I was nonresponsive and my white count dropped to

1.4 I was feeling like warmed over death.

I am sober also go to church some but usually spend quiet time or take nice

walk without the children sunday and have time to talk to God. Which helps me

much more than the rolled eye back row church goers in my small town. lol.

Anyways just lately I am not depressed so much just so cotton pickin angry. I

count to 10 a lot and I use to not let myself get mad ever. But even today I was

mad at a doctor about something and I asked a coworker could she tell I was mad

as a wet hen. She says I never would have thought you were mad. So I guess

people cant tell or they dont say anything lol. I yelled at a telemarketer last

saturday morning. I felt really bad lol. So yes in recovery they say keep it

simple stupid lol. Me I feel like I keep my feelings on my sleeve. But I am

still trunkin. Not doped up and got this cutie pie little boy over here showing

me his 2 little teeth popping out. So I am not doing to bad. Have a roof over my

head, a full tummy and a good movie to watch on tv.

have a nice night all

It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

Hey Em, I too am prone to anger especially the first 13 yrs but I turned a

corner when I found a real good church (never went in my life) and now its

better but not gone. The warmed over death feeling that I got from taking

Interferon actually helped me to experience (feel) evil while totaly sober so I

started concentrating on the opposite of that and I have never been happier.

Sounds like your a great mom. Lloyd

________________________________

From: emily <emily_sweethang@...>

Hepatitis C

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 7:35:58 PM

Subject: Re: It's unbelievable

Lloyd,

I was severely depressed during the process of 8 months of taking interferon. My

doctor stopped mine because I was nonresponsive and my white count dropped to

1.4 I was feeling like warmed over death.

I am sober also go to church some but usually spend quiet time or take nice

walk without the children sunday and have time to talk to God. Which helps me

much more than the rolled eye back row church goers in my small town. lol.

Anyways just lately I am not depressed so much just so cotton pickin angry. I

count to 10 a lot and I use to not let myself get mad ever. But even today I was

mad at a doctor about something and I asked a coworker could she tell I was mad

as a wet hen. She says I never would have thought you were mad. So I guess

people cant tell or they dont say anything lol. I yelled at a telemarketer last

saturday morning. I felt really bad lol. So yes in recovery they say keep it

simple stupid lol. Me I feel like I keep my feelings on my sleeve. But I am

still trunkin. Not doped up and got this cutie pie little boy over here showing

me his 2 little teeth popping out. So I am not doing to bad. Have a roof over my

head, a full tummy and a good movie to watch on tv.

have a nice night all

It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

Hey Em, I too am prone to anger especially the first 13 yrs but I turned a

corner when I found a real good church (never went in my life) and now its

better but not gone. The warmed over death feeling that I got from taking

Interferon actually helped me to experience (feel) evil while totaly sober so I

started concentrating on the opposite of that and I have never been happier.

Sounds like your a great mom. Lloyd

________________________________

From: emily <emily_sweethang@...>

Hepatitis C

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 7:35:58 PM

Subject: Re: It's unbelievable

Lloyd,

I was severely depressed during the process of 8 months of taking interferon. My

doctor stopped mine because I was nonresponsive and my white count dropped to

1.4 I was feeling like warmed over death.

I am sober also go to church some but usually spend quiet time or take nice

walk without the children sunday and have time to talk to God. Which helps me

much more than the rolled eye back row church goers in my small town. lol.

Anyways just lately I am not depressed so much just so cotton pickin angry. I

count to 10 a lot and I use to not let myself get mad ever. But even today I was

mad at a doctor about something and I asked a coworker could she tell I was mad

as a wet hen. She says I never would have thought you were mad. So I guess

people cant tell or they dont say anything lol. I yelled at a telemarketer last

saturday morning. I felt really bad lol. So yes in recovery they say keep it

simple stupid lol. Me I feel like I keep my feelings on my sleeve. But I am

still trunkin. Not doped up and got this cutie pie little boy over here showing

me his 2 little teeth popping out. So I am not doing to bad. Have a roof over my

head, a full tummy and a good movie to watch on tv.

have a nice night all

It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

to deb

 

everyones reaction to interferon is different but you MUST HAVE FAMILY AND

FRIENDS SUPPORT.  Don't try to do it alone.  I went to Costa Rica as the

treatment there is 360 and i didn't have insurance.  Now explain that one since

they get their interferon from here.  The dr there told me I would never make it

without family and friends and he didn't advise it.  Then I met a man who has it

there and he said he was ready to blow his brains out and quit it to come back

to the U>Ss

 

Last month I was diagnosed with cancer cells in the blood.  Will know what stage

next week.  Whatever stage, I'm going to Roatan Honduras, not do the treatment. 

I love scuba, snorkeling.  It is healing to me.  I feel so much more energized

around the salt water.  I will probably die there and that's cool.  I have no

family left.  Let the fish eat me.  I can't donate any part of me to people but

fish can't catch it and when all my friends eat fish, they can say, there's a

piece of Patti.  I believe in God and I beleve there is a better life.

Oneil <lloydoneil@...> wrote:

From: Lloyd Oneil <lloydoneil@...>

Subject: Re: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis C

Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 3:53 PM

Hey Deb, The biopsy was both good and bad. The good meaning after all these yrs

my liver was still in early deterioration and the bad was out of the many

strains of hep c I have the hardest to get rid of. The biopsy itself was a

breeze. Still I have fatigue and as a result of the treatment I take

anti-depressents but I dont want to discourage anyone from taking the medication

because it has a pretty good success rate. I have been in AA and sober for the

last 20 yrs and seen a lot of people use interferon with success and I would say

about 20 per cent had to quit treatment because of depression or a bad reaction

to it. The only way to know for yourself is to go on it and see. Just because I

cant take it doesnt mean that you cant. Will pray for you dear. Lloyd

____________ _________ _________ __

From: deborah brown <heaven_scent_ in_55 (DOT) com>

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Cc: deborah kay mand <heaven_scent_ in_55 (DOT) com>

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:36:15 PM

Subject: Re: It's unbelievable

oooh, how did your biopsy turn out?

From: h.fertig <h.fertig (DOT) com>

Subject: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

to deb

 

everyones reaction to interferon is different but you MUST HAVE FAMILY AND

FRIENDS SUPPORT.  Don't try to do it alone.  I went to Costa Rica as the

treatment there is 360 and i didn't have insurance.  Now explain that one since

they get their interferon from here.  The dr there told me I would never make it

without family and friends and he didn't advise it.  Then I met a man who has it

there and he said he was ready to blow his brains out and quit it to come back

to the U>Ss

 

Last month I was diagnosed with cancer cells in the blood.  Will know what stage

next week.  Whatever stage, I'm going to Roatan Honduras, not do the treatment. 

I love scuba, snorkeling.  It is healing to me.  I feel so much more energized

around the salt water.  I will probably die there and that's cool.  I have no

family left.  Let the fish eat me.  I can't donate any part of me to people but

fish can't catch it and when all my friends eat fish, they can say, there's a

piece of Patti.  I believe in God and I beleve there is a better life.

Oneil <lloydoneil@...> wrote:

From: Lloyd Oneil <lloydoneil@...>

Subject: Re: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis C

Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 3:53 PM

Hey Deb, The biopsy was both good and bad. The good meaning after all these yrs

my liver was still in early deterioration and the bad was out of the many

strains of hep c I have the hardest to get rid of. The biopsy itself was a

breeze. Still I have fatigue and as a result of the treatment I take

anti-depressents but I dont want to discourage anyone from taking the medication

because it has a pretty good success rate. I have been in AA and sober for the

last 20 yrs and seen a lot of people use interferon with success and I would say

about 20 per cent had to quit treatment because of depression or a bad reaction

to it. The only way to know for yourself is to go on it and see. Just because I

cant take it doesnt mean that you cant. Will pray for you dear. Lloyd

____________ _________ _________ __

From: deborah brown <heaven_scent_ in_55 (DOT) com>

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Cc: deborah kay mand <heaven_scent_ in_55 (DOT) com>

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:36:15 PM

Subject: Re: It's unbelievable

oooh, how did your biopsy turn out?

From: h.fertig <h.fertig (DOT) com>

Subject: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

to deb

 

everyones reaction to interferon is different but you MUST HAVE FAMILY AND

FRIENDS SUPPORT.  Don't try to do it alone.  I went to Costa Rica as the

treatment there is 360 and i didn't have insurance.  Now explain that one since

they get their interferon from here.  The dr there told me I would never make it

without family and friends and he didn't advise it.  Then I met a man who has it

there and he said he was ready to blow his brains out and quit it to come back

to the U>Ss

 

Last month I was diagnosed with cancer cells in the blood.  Will know what stage

next week.  Whatever stage, I'm going to Roatan Honduras, not do the treatment. 

I love scuba, snorkeling.  It is healing to me.  I feel so much more energized

around the salt water.  I will probably die there and that's cool.  I have no

family left.  Let the fish eat me.  I can't donate any part of me to people but

fish can't catch it and when all my friends eat fish, they can say, there's a

piece of Patti.  I believe in God and I beleve there is a better life.

Oneil <lloydoneil@...> wrote:

From: Lloyd Oneil <lloydoneil@...>

Subject: Re: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis C

Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 3:53 PM

Hey Deb, The biopsy was both good and bad. The good meaning after all these yrs

my liver was still in early deterioration and the bad was out of the many

strains of hep c I have the hardest to get rid of. The biopsy itself was a

breeze. Still I have fatigue and as a result of the treatment I take

anti-depressents but I dont want to discourage anyone from taking the medication

because it has a pretty good success rate. I have been in AA and sober for the

last 20 yrs and seen a lot of people use interferon with success and I would say

about 20 per cent had to quit treatment because of depression or a bad reaction

to it. The only way to know for yourself is to go on it and see. Just because I

cant take it doesnt mean that you cant. Will pray for you dear. Lloyd

____________ _________ _________ __

From: deborah brown <heaven_scent_ in_55 (DOT) com>

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Cc: deborah kay mand <heaven_scent_ in_55 (DOT) com>

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:36:15 PM

Subject: Re: It's unbelievable

oooh, how did your biopsy turn out?

From: h.fertig <h.fertig (DOT) com>

Subject: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

to deb

 

everyones reaction to interferon is different but you MUST HAVE FAMILY AND

FRIENDS SUPPORT.  Don't try to do it alone.  I went to Costa Rica as the

treatment there is 360 and i didn't have insurance.  Now explain that one since

they get their interferon from here.  The dr there told me I would never make it

without family and friends and he didn't advise it.  Then I met a man who has it

there and he said he was ready to blow his brains out and quit it to come back

to the U>Ss

 

Last month I was diagnosed with cancer cells in the blood.  Will know what stage

next week.  Whatever stage, I'm going to Roatan Honduras, not do the treatment. 

I love scuba, snorkeling.  It is healing to me.  I feel so much more energized

around the salt water.  I will probably die there and that's cool.  I have no

family left.  Let the fish eat me.  I can't donate any part of me to people but

fish can't catch it and when all my friends eat fish, they can say, there's a

piece of Patti.  I believe in God and I beleve there is a better life.

Oneil <lloydoneil@...> wrote:

From: Lloyd Oneil <lloydoneil@...>

Subject: Re: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis C

Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 3:53 PM

Hey Deb, The biopsy was both good and bad. The good meaning after all these yrs

my liver was still in early deterioration and the bad was out of the many

strains of hep c I have the hardest to get rid of. The biopsy itself was a

breeze. Still I have fatigue and as a result of the treatment I take

anti-depressents but I dont want to discourage anyone from taking the medication

because it has a pretty good success rate. I have been in AA and sober for the

last 20 yrs and seen a lot of people use interferon with success and I would say

about 20 per cent had to quit treatment because of depression or a bad reaction

to it. The only way to know for yourself is to go on it and see. Just because I

cant take it doesnt mean that you cant. Will pray for you dear. Lloyd

____________ _________ _________ __

From: deborah brown <heaven_scent_ in_55 (DOT) com>

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Cc: deborah kay mand <heaven_scent_ in_55 (DOT) com>

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:36:15 PM

Subject: Re: It's unbelievable

oooh, how did your biopsy turn out?

From: h.fertig <h.fertig (DOT) com>

Subject: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

Also have thtem check your platelet count.  Normal is a400,000, mine is 70,000

and so tired I'm in bed 2 out of 3 days.  They;re talking blood transfusions

soon.  I'l; give it a try but if I don't feel more energy, going to an island

and enjoy what time I have left.

From: h.fertig <h.fertig (DOT) com>

Subject: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???

[Guest guest]

Also have thtem check your platelet count.  Normal is a400,000, mine is 70,000

and so tired I'm in bed 2 out of 3 days.  They;re talking blood transfusions

soon.  I'l; give it a try but if I don't feel more energy, going to an island

and enjoy what time I have left.

From: h.fertig <h.fertig (DOT) com>

Subject: It's unbelievable

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 5:22 PM

Hi my name is Harold Fertig and I had this for atleast 20 plus years and must

got it either when I was 12 when my rupature appendix or when I was 18 compound

fracture. I was treated at Coook county hosp. in Chicago.Turn 44 in May and have

a bulging disc L 4-5 back in 2003.I'm having a hard time ;I tried to get

disability in 06 after losing my job and there attitude was ;I was still able to

work.I've tried ,I don't want to be a borden on people (Tax Payers).Is it me ???

I have for kids and lost my home want to work .

The sypthoms to me feel like lackering hang-over and I still go out and try

things like throwing the football with my 2 10 year old sons . Play barbie w/the

6 year old and the oldest try give her great advice on the no dating policy

unless he's a good kid.(so far no dating).

But my biggest fear is how long do I have left and I guess we really don't Know

??

I have to look up and take God and Our Lord Jesus the days I do have and that

song the Next 40 years.HA,HA

P.S Do you think ! ;I have A right for Disabilty???