Re: what do you miss most..

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So... You have heard Alice's Restaurant.. How cool...

In a message dated 10/30/2009 6:39:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

autark@... writes:

Tom,

I am honered to accept your thanks and i agree about not being for all the

wars. To be honest, at the time, the Army was the only job thaqt would

get me outta Texarkana TX (we call it " Little Chicago " due the fact it's a

hub for the drug trade) and to places id never imagine id have went lol like

Panama. It was a cool place when or before Noriega got control. I had a

super cool cultural experience. I took a months leave and went into the

jungle to live with the native tribe of " Cunya " indians and the were very nice

to me and gave us (me and my wife ) mauch respect and gifts as long we

respected custom all was so cool. They had a shaman, hell , probly licked

toads hehe. Yep that was a grand time. Any way i get to rambling.I

couldnt control the politics but i could learn from it all. I may go back and

visit my friend there, Marcos and his Family We employed his wife as a maid

and Marcos was a big man so naturally:body guard and he was

good at it. I enjoyed serving.

but i enjoy learning. Your recognition of what I did make me feel good.

Us techies didnt have to do much killing or any at all in my case . Didnt

keep me from getting shot. But what the heck. I learned from that too. Im

going out to get me some good eatsnow man.

peace love and beat, dead , burnt babies(ty Arlow Guthrie)

G. Harold Ewing II USA ret.

________________________________

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(mailto:tomhfsu@...) >

_PainInTheNeck-PainInTheNeck-<WPain_

(mailto:neck pain )

Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 6:31:42 AM

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck-Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck-<WBR>Back] Re:

Harold,

It is a sad state of affairs that some of these so called peace advocates

take out this venom on the people who have served our country..

I may have been against some of our wars but that has no bearing on how I

feel about the men and women who fought them

Once again let me say that I for one thank you for your service..

Tom

In a message dated 10/29/2009 11:27:44 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

autarksbcglobal (DOT) net writes:

June,

thanks as always, you reply in a way I understand. Heck i have been

called a lot of things my self. Some folks dont like the Army. called me a

killer, an unforgivable sinner. I dont care any more as i got to get by

and

thosse voices are just dust in the wind. My dr says surgury is a 50% risk

of

total paralasis. WE decided that wasnt a good thing. Now the meds are a

hassle. no high. just something i have to deal with and i cant live by

someone elses self made mores. I turn to the Lord for answers and i get

them.

They do come in odd packages tho. Some what camoflaged. So to speak.

hope a good day comes your way,

pain free and feeling happy!

Harold

____________ _________ _________ __

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<_birdcrazy624@ birdcra_ (mailto:birdcrazy62_birdcrazy624@ b>

_PainInTheNeck- PainInTheNeck- <WPain_

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Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 6:13:09 PM

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- <WBR>Back] Re:

Harold, & Tom, I used to feel guilty using narcotic pain relievers, &

Klonopin . If you were a nurse who used them for pain, or a medical

disorder,

you were still seen as a drug addict, & an impaired person. I prefer to

see

myself as focused, & functioning with little pain. Yes, I choose not to

live with excruciating pain, & pain medication helps me to work when I

need

to, & enjoy the finer things in life. The medication makes me functional

not high. Actually I was called a substance abuser when I was only taking

Klonopin 1 mg at bedtime. I still only take the maximum of 2 regular

strength

Vicodin's a day, & Motrin 800 mg at bedtime. I am fortunate enough, not

to need surgery, & will avoid it, until I risk permanent nerve damage,

weakn

ess, & intractable pain. Some spinal surgery further deteriorates the

other discs, because they need to compensate for the fused discs, which

results in significant degeneration, which necessitates further surgery. I

look

for the least invasive surgery, such as disc shaving for herniated discs.

I

also would get a 2nd, or 3rd opinion, before I used surgery as my 1st

treatment option. Just my personal opnions. June, RN

In a message dated 10/29/2009 12:37:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

autarksbcglobal (DOT) net writes:

Tom, I assuradly agree, with out them id be nothing, ive hade people

sugest

motrin lololol i take 450 mg oxycdone a day and 3 2 mg clonazepam and 2 10

mg valium out of 14 meds that arent addictive but i can go on living and

have some ok moments , yes sir, thats why they make them and those who

dont

understand either like suffering or havent yet felt what we feel.

stay weel and painless friend,

Harold

____________ _________ _________ __

From: " _tomhfsuaol (DOT) tom_ (mailto:tomhfsu@ From: " _tomhfsu@<_ tomhfsuaol (DOT)

tom_

(mailto:tomhfsu@ (mailto:to>

_PainInTheNeck- PainInTheNeck- <WPain_

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Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:48:30 AM

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- <WBR>B

The seemingly mundane moments in life looking back do seem to be

precious..

Find the thing that is most precious and decide that you will not give

that up..

That is what pain killers are for..

: )

Tom

In a message dated 10/29/2009 7:19:37 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,

caesareacattery writes:

Tom,

Only when you can't so things anymore do you realize what you miss. I miss

being able to work, go out with my kids without being in pain and

suffering for days afterward, took my 5 year old trick or treating on main

street

on Tuesday and was not fun but she did not know that although the older

kids

do. I miss being able to garden, drive anywhere. I miss being able to

clean my house with out pain. Going anywhere is painful but I do try so

hard to

make the most of what I have become. At the moment am checking emails

while

cooking my back with a heating pad and waiting for the pain killers to

kick in so I can go vacumn.

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So... You have heard Alice's Restaurant.. How cool...

In a message dated 10/30/2009 6:39:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

autark@... writes:

Tom,

I am honered to accept your thanks and i agree about not being for all the

wars. To be honest, at the time, the Army was the only job thaqt would

get me outta Texarkana TX (we call it " Little Chicago " due the fact it's a

hub for the drug trade) and to places id never imagine id have went lol like

Panama. It was a cool place when or before Noriega got control. I had a

super cool cultural experience. I took a months leave and went into the

jungle to live with the native tribe of " Cunya " indians and the were very nice

to me and gave us (me and my wife ) mauch respect and gifts as long we

respected custom all was so cool. They had a shaman, hell , probly licked

toads hehe. Yep that was a grand time. Any way i get to rambling.I

couldnt control the politics but i could learn from it all. I may go back and

visit my friend there, Marcos and his Family We employed his wife as a maid

and Marcos was a big man so naturally:body guard and he was

good at it. I enjoyed serving.

but i enjoy learning. Your recognition of what I did make me feel good.

Us techies didnt have to do much killing or any at all in my case . Didnt

keep me from getting shot. But what the heck. I learned from that too. Im

going out to get me some good eatsnow man.

peace love and beat, dead , burnt babies(ty Arlow Guthrie)

G. Harold Ewing II USA ret.

________________________________

From: " _tomhfsu@..._ (mailto:tomhfsu@...) " <_tomhfsu@..._

(mailto:tomhfsu@...) >

_PainInTheNeck-PainInTheNeck-<WPain_

(mailto:neck pain )

Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 6:31:42 AM

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck-Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck-<WBR>Back] Re:

Harold,

It is a sad state of affairs that some of these so called peace advocates

take out this venom on the people who have served our country..

I may have been against some of our wars but that has no bearing on how I

feel about the men and women who fought them

Once again let me say that I for one thank you for your service..

Tom

In a message dated 10/29/2009 11:27:44 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

autarksbcglobal (DOT) net writes:

June,

thanks as always, you reply in a way I understand. Heck i have been

called a lot of things my self. Some folks dont like the Army. called me a

killer, an unforgivable sinner. I dont care any more as i got to get by

and

thosse voices are just dust in the wind. My dr says surgury is a 50% risk

of

total paralasis. WE decided that wasnt a good thing. Now the meds are a

hassle. no high. just something i have to deal with and i cant live by

someone elses self made mores. I turn to the Lord for answers and i get

them.

They do come in odd packages tho. Some what camoflaged. So to speak.

hope a good day comes your way,

pain free and feeling happy!

Harold

____________ _________ _________ __

From: " _birdcrazy624@ birdcra_ (mailto:birdcrazy62From: " _birdcr

<_birdcrazy624@ birdcra_ (mailto:birdcrazy62_birdcrazy624@ b>

_PainInTheNeck- PainInTheNeck- <WPain_

(mailto:PainInTheNe(mailto:PainInTheNe<WBR>ck-

Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 6:13:09 PM

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- <WBR>Back] Re:

Harold, & Tom, I used to feel guilty using narcotic pain relievers, &

Klonopin . If you were a nurse who used them for pain, or a medical

disorder,

you were still seen as a drug addict, & an impaired person. I prefer to

see

myself as focused, & functioning with little pain. Yes, I choose not to

live with excruciating pain, & pain medication helps me to work when I

need

to, & enjoy the finer things in life. The medication makes me functional

not high. Actually I was called a substance abuser when I was only taking

Klonopin 1 mg at bedtime. I still only take the maximum of 2 regular

strength

Vicodin's a day, & Motrin 800 mg at bedtime. I am fortunate enough, not

to need surgery, & will avoid it, until I risk permanent nerve damage,

weakn

ess, & intractable pain. Some spinal surgery further deteriorates the

other discs, because they need to compensate for the fused discs, which

results in significant degeneration, which necessitates further surgery. I

look

for the least invasive surgery, such as disc shaving for herniated discs.

I

also would get a 2nd, or 3rd opinion, before I used surgery as my 1st

treatment option. Just my personal opnions. June, RN

In a message dated 10/29/2009 12:37:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

autarksbcglobal (DOT) net writes:

Tom, I assuradly agree, with out them id be nothing, ive hade people

sugest

motrin lololol i take 450 mg oxycdone a day and 3 2 mg clonazepam and 2 10

mg valium out of 14 meds that arent addictive but i can go on living and

have some ok moments , yes sir, thats why they make them and those who

dont

understand either like suffering or havent yet felt what we feel.

stay weel and painless friend,

Harold

____________ _________ _________ __

From: " _tomhfsuaol (DOT) tom_ (mailto:tomhfsu@ From: " _tomhfsu@<_ tomhfsuaol (DOT)

tom_

(mailto:tomhfsu@ (mailto:to>

_PainInTheNeck- PainInTheNeck- <WPain_

(mailto:PainInTheNe (mailto:PainInTh eNe<WBR>ck-

Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:48:30 AM

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- <WBR>B

The seemingly mundane moments in life looking back do seem to be

precious..

Find the thing that is most precious and decide that you will not give

that up..

That is what pain killers are for..

: )

Tom

In a message dated 10/29/2009 7:19:37 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,

caesareacattery writes:

Tom,

Only when you can't so things anymore do you realize what you miss. I miss

being able to work, go out with my kids without being in pain and

suffering for days afterward, took my 5 year old trick or treating on main

street

on Tuesday and was not fun but she did not know that although the older

kids

do. I miss being able to garden, drive anywhere. I miss being able to

clean my house with out pain. Going anywhere is painful but I do try so

hard to

make the most of what I have become. At the moment am checking emails

while

cooking my back with a heating pad and waiting for the pain killers to

kick in so I can go vacumn.

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[Guest guest]

So... You have heard Alice's Restaurant.. How cool...

In a message dated 10/30/2009 6:39:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

autark@... writes:

Tom,

I am honered to accept your thanks and i agree about not being for all the

wars. To be honest, at the time, the Army was the only job thaqt would

get me outta Texarkana TX (we call it " Little Chicago " due the fact it's a

hub for the drug trade) and to places id never imagine id have went lol like

Panama. It was a cool place when or before Noriega got control. I had a

super cool cultural experience. I took a months leave and went into the

jungle to live with the native tribe of " Cunya " indians and the were very nice

to me and gave us (me and my wife ) mauch respect and gifts as long we

respected custom all was so cool. They had a shaman, hell , probly licked

toads hehe. Yep that was a grand time. Any way i get to rambling.I

couldnt control the politics but i could learn from it all. I may go back and

visit my friend there, Marcos and his Family We employed his wife as a maid

and Marcos was a big man so naturally:body guard and he was

good at it. I enjoyed serving.

but i enjoy learning. Your recognition of what I did make me feel good.

Us techies didnt have to do much killing or any at all in my case . Didnt

keep me from getting shot. But what the heck. I learned from that too. Im

going out to get me some good eatsnow man.

peace love and beat, dead , burnt babies(ty Arlow Guthrie)

G. Harold Ewing II USA ret.

________________________________

From: " _tomhfsu@..._ (mailto:tomhfsu@...) " <_tomhfsu@..._

(mailto:tomhfsu@...) >

_PainInTheNeck-PainInTheNeck-<WPain_

(mailto:neck pain )

Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 6:31:42 AM

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck-Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck-<WBR>Back] Re:

Harold,

It is a sad state of affairs that some of these so called peace advocates

take out this venom on the people who have served our country..

I may have been against some of our wars but that has no bearing on how I

feel about the men and women who fought them

Once again let me say that I for one thank you for your service..

Tom

In a message dated 10/29/2009 11:27:44 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

autarksbcglobal (DOT) net writes:

June,

thanks as always, you reply in a way I understand. Heck i have been

called a lot of things my self. Some folks dont like the Army. called me a

killer, an unforgivable sinner. I dont care any more as i got to get by

and

thosse voices are just dust in the wind. My dr says surgury is a 50% risk

of

total paralasis. WE decided that wasnt a good thing. Now the meds are a

hassle. no high. just something i have to deal with and i cant live by

someone elses self made mores. I turn to the Lord for answers and i get

them.

They do come in odd packages tho. Some what camoflaged. So to speak.

hope a good day comes your way,

pain free and feeling happy!

Harold

____________ _________ _________ __

From: " _birdcrazy624@ birdcra_ (mailto:birdcrazy62From: " _birdcr

<_birdcrazy624@ birdcra_ (mailto:birdcrazy62_birdcrazy624@ b>

_PainInTheNeck- PainInTheNeck- <WPain_

(mailto:PainInTheNe(mailto:PainInTheNe<WBR>ck-

Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 6:13:09 PM

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- <WBR>Back] Re:

Harold, & Tom, I used to feel guilty using narcotic pain relievers, &

Klonopin . If you were a nurse who used them for pain, or a medical

disorder,

you were still seen as a drug addict, & an impaired person. I prefer to

see

myself as focused, & functioning with little pain. Yes, I choose not to

live with excruciating pain, & pain medication helps me to work when I

need

to, & enjoy the finer things in life. The medication makes me functional

not high. Actually I was called a substance abuser when I was only taking

Klonopin 1 mg at bedtime. I still only take the maximum of 2 regular

strength

Vicodin's a day, & Motrin 800 mg at bedtime. I am fortunate enough, not

to need surgery, & will avoid it, until I risk permanent nerve damage,

weakn

ess, & intractable pain. Some spinal surgery further deteriorates the

other discs, because they need to compensate for the fused discs, which

results in significant degeneration, which necessitates further surgery. I

look

for the least invasive surgery, such as disc shaving for herniated discs.

I

also would get a 2nd, or 3rd opinion, before I used surgery as my 1st

treatment option. Just my personal opnions. June, RN

In a message dated 10/29/2009 12:37:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

autarksbcglobal (DOT) net writes:

Tom, I assuradly agree, with out them id be nothing, ive hade people

sugest

motrin lololol i take 450 mg oxycdone a day and 3 2 mg clonazepam and 2 10

mg valium out of 14 meds that arent addictive but i can go on living and

have some ok moments , yes sir, thats why they make them and those who

dont

understand either like suffering or havent yet felt what we feel.

stay weel and painless friend,

Harold

____________ _________ _________ __

From: " _tomhfsuaol (DOT) tom_ (mailto:tomhfsu@ From: " _tomhfsu@<_ tomhfsuaol (DOT)

tom_

(mailto:tomhfsu@ (mailto:to>

_PainInTheNeck- PainInTheNeck- <WPain_

(mailto:PainInTheNe (mailto:PainInTh eNe<WBR>ck-

Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:48:30 AM

Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck- <WBR>B

The seemingly mundane moments in life looking back do seem to be

precious..

Find the thing that is most precious and decide that you will not give

that up..

That is what pain killers are for..

: )

Tom

In a message dated 10/29/2009 7:19:37 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,

caesareacattery writes:

Tom,

Only when you can't so things anymore do you realize what you miss. I miss

being able to work, go out with my kids without being in pain and

suffering for days afterward, took my 5 year old trick or treating on main

street

on Tuesday and was not fun but she did not know that although the older

kids

do. I miss being able to garden, drive anywhere. I miss being able to

clean my house with out pain. Going anywhere is painful but I do try so

hard to

make the most of what I have become. At the moment am checking emails

while

cooking my back with a heating pad and waiting for the pain killers to

kick in so I can go vacumn.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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This is my first fall/winter since my 2nd cervical spine surgery. After my first

fusion, the weather didn't seem to bother me at all. I actually got some some

relief after my second surgery this past March. I'm now fused from C2-C7. I'm

back in a lot of pain again and I think it does have to do with the weather.

Also, I am wondering if anyone else uses the Flector patches? They seem to

really work for me. Granted they basically are just numbing the area but hey, I

will take any relief I can get. I don't take pain pills or muscle relaxers

anymore. They just don't work anymore. I'm curious as to how any/all of you can

take the same meds day in and day out and they actually continue to work for

you? Doesn't your body build up a tolerance to them? I know that is why I

stopped taking them.

Its been a while since I have chimed in. I hope everyone has a pain-free

weekend!!!

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Re: Re: what do you miss most..

GREAT ADVICE..

In a message dated 10/30/2009 6:19:32 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

borlan9191962@... writes:

Fuddster,

I don't know the type and severity of your health issues, but here is what

I do know. Most spinal issues only get worse with time especially if you

are still working. I don't mean to scare you but that is just the nature of

the beast. I wish someone had told me this next info. before I got where I

had to quit my job. If you can take out short term and long term disability

through work or if you can afford it a private company. Make sure you have

disability protection on any loans and credit cards you have. And once you

get to the point you feel you can no longer work get a sympathetic doctor

that will help with forms and letters for your disability. Getting SS

disability is a long process. Insulate yourself financially as much as you can

before you have to quit work. I hope you get better and can continue working

and living a normal life.

As for the weather yes changes and extremes of any kind cause additional

pain, stiffness and immobility. My pain is the worst a day or two before it

rains. Guess it has something to do with pressure.

Jane H.

P.S.: Don't feel guilty. You did not ask for the pain. Do what you can and

if others don't understand then they are not people you really need in

your life.

>

> you can vacuum? evidently i'm on the wrong meds!

>

>

> >

> > Tom,

> >

> > Only when you can't so things anymore do you realize what you miss. I

miss being able to work, go out with my kids without being in pain and

suffering for days afterward, took my 5 year old trick or treating on main

street on Tuesday and was not fun but she did not know that although the older

kids do. I miss being able to garden, drive anywhere. I miss being able to

clean my house with out pain. Going anywhere is painful but I do try so

hard to make the most of what I have become. At the moment am checking emails

while cooking my back with a heating pad and waiting for the pain killers

to kick in so I can go vacumn.

> >

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

This is my first fall/winter since my 2nd cervical spine surgery. After my first

fusion, the weather didn't seem to bother me at all. I actually got some some

relief after my second surgery this past March. I'm now fused from C2-C7. I'm

back in a lot of pain again and I think it does have to do with the weather.

Also, I am wondering if anyone else uses the Flector patches? They seem to

really work for me. Granted they basically are just numbing the area but hey, I

will take any relief I can get. I don't take pain pills or muscle relaxers

anymore. They just don't work anymore. I'm curious as to how any/all of you can

take the same meds day in and day out and they actually continue to work for

you? Doesn't your body build up a tolerance to them? I know that is why I

stopped taking them.

Its been a while since I have chimed in. I hope everyone has a pain-free

weekend!!!

Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

Re: Re: what do you miss most..

GREAT ADVICE..

In a message dated 10/30/2009 6:19:32 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

borlan9191962@... writes:

Fuddster,

I don't know the type and severity of your health issues, but here is what

I do know. Most spinal issues only get worse with time especially if you

are still working. I don't mean to scare you but that is just the nature of

the beast. I wish someone had told me this next info. before I got where I

had to quit my job. If you can take out short term and long term disability

through work or if you can afford it a private company. Make sure you have

disability protection on any loans and credit cards you have. And once you

get to the point you feel you can no longer work get a sympathetic doctor

that will help with forms and letters for your disability. Getting SS

disability is a long process. Insulate yourself financially as much as you can

before you have to quit work. I hope you get better and can continue working

and living a normal life.

As for the weather yes changes and extremes of any kind cause additional

pain, stiffness and immobility. My pain is the worst a day or two before it

rains. Guess it has something to do with pressure.

Jane H.

P.S.: Don't feel guilty. You did not ask for the pain. Do what you can and

if others don't understand then they are not people you really need in

your life.

>

> you can vacuum? evidently i'm on the wrong meds!

>

>

> >

> > Tom,

> >

> > Only when you can't so things anymore do you realize what you miss. I

miss being able to work, go out with my kids without being in pain and

suffering for days afterward, took my 5 year old trick or treating on main

street on Tuesday and was not fun but she did not know that although the older

kids do. I miss being able to garden, drive anywhere. I miss being able to

clean my house with out pain. Going anywhere is painful but I do try so

hard to make the most of what I have become. At the moment am checking emails

while cooking my back with a heating pad and waiting for the pain killers

to kick in so I can go vacumn.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Guest guest]

This is my first fall/winter since my 2nd cervical spine surgery. After my first

fusion, the weather didn't seem to bother me at all. I actually got some some

relief after my second surgery this past March. I'm now fused from C2-C7. I'm

back in a lot of pain again and I think it does have to do with the weather.

Also, I am wondering if anyone else uses the Flector patches? They seem to

really work for me. Granted they basically are just numbing the area but hey, I

will take any relief I can get. I don't take pain pills or muscle relaxers

anymore. They just don't work anymore. I'm curious as to how any/all of you can

take the same meds day in and day out and they actually continue to work for

you? Doesn't your body build up a tolerance to them? I know that is why I

stopped taking them.

Its been a while since I have chimed in. I hope everyone has a pain-free

weekend!!!

Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

Re: Re: what do you miss most..

GREAT ADVICE..

In a message dated 10/30/2009 6:19:32 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

borlan9191962@... writes:

Fuddster,

I don't know the type and severity of your health issues, but here is what

I do know. Most spinal issues only get worse with time especially if you

are still working. I don't mean to scare you but that is just the nature of

the beast. I wish someone had told me this next info. before I got where I

had to quit my job. If you can take out short term and long term disability

through work or if you can afford it a private company. Make sure you have

disability protection on any loans and credit cards you have. And once you

get to the point you feel you can no longer work get a sympathetic doctor

that will help with forms and letters for your disability. Getting SS

disability is a long process. Insulate yourself financially as much as you can

before you have to quit work. I hope you get better and can continue working

and living a normal life.

As for the weather yes changes and extremes of any kind cause additional

pain, stiffness and immobility. My pain is the worst a day or two before it

rains. Guess it has something to do with pressure.

Jane H.

P.S.: Don't feel guilty. You did not ask for the pain. Do what you can and

if others don't understand then they are not people you really need in

your life.

>

> you can vacuum? evidently i'm on the wrong meds!

>

>

> >

> > Tom,

> >

> > Only when you can't so things anymore do you realize what you miss. I

miss being able to work, go out with my kids without being in pain and

suffering for days afterward, took my 5 year old trick or treating on main

street on Tuesday and was not fun but she did not know that although the older

kids do. I miss being able to garden, drive anywhere. I miss being able to

clean my house with out pain. Going anywhere is painful but I do try so

hard to make the most of what I have become. At the moment am checking emails

while cooking my back with a heating pad and waiting for the pain killers

to kick in so I can go vacumn.

> >

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

This is my first fall/winter since my 2nd cervical spine surgery. After my first

fusion, the weather didn't seem to bother me at all. I actually got some some

relief after my second surgery this past March. I'm now fused from C2-C7. I'm

back in a lot of pain again and I think it does have to do with the weather.

Also, I am wondering if anyone else uses the Flector patches? They seem to

really work for me. Granted they basically are just numbing the area but hey, I

will take any relief I can get. I don't take pain pills or muscle relaxers

anymore. They just don't work anymore. I'm curious as to how any/all of you can

take the same meds day in and day out and they actually continue to work for

you? Doesn't your body build up a tolerance to them? I know that is why I

stopped taking them.

Its been a while since I have chimed in. I hope everyone has a pain-free

weekend!!!

Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

Re: Re: what do you miss most..

GREAT ADVICE..

In a message dated 10/30/2009 6:19:32 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

borlan9191962@... writes:

Fuddster,

I don't know the type and severity of your health issues, but here is what

I do know. Most spinal issues only get worse with time especially if you

are still working. I don't mean to scare you but that is just the nature of

the beast. I wish someone had told me this next info. before I got where I

had to quit my job. If you can take out short term and long term disability

through work or if you can afford it a private company. Make sure you have

disability protection on any loans and credit cards you have. And once you

get to the point you feel you can no longer work get a sympathetic doctor

that will help with forms and letters for your disability. Getting SS

disability is a long process. Insulate yourself financially as much as you can

before you have to quit work. I hope you get better and can continue working

and living a normal life.

As for the weather yes changes and extremes of any kind cause additional

pain, stiffness and immobility. My pain is the worst a day or two before it

rains. Guess it has something to do with pressure.

Jane H.

P.S.: Don't feel guilty. You did not ask for the pain. Do what you can and

if others don't understand then they are not people you really need in

your life.

>

> you can vacuum? evidently i'm on the wrong meds!

>

>

> >

> > Tom,

> >

> > Only when you can't so things anymore do you realize what you miss. I

miss being able to work, go out with my kids without being in pain and

suffering for days afterward, took my 5 year old trick or treating on main

street on Tuesday and was not fun but she did not know that although the older

kids do. I miss being able to garden, drive anywhere. I miss being able to

clean my house with out pain. Going anywhere is painful but I do try so

hard to make the most of what I have become. At the moment am checking emails

while cooking my back with a heating pad and waiting for the pain killers

to kick in so I can go vacumn.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Guest guest]

The meds dostart to not make as much of a difference but for me at least

they are still effective, but then I take quite a lot

In a message dated 10/31/2009 8:06:20 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,

carrie.heflin@... writes:

This is my first fall/winter since my 2nd cervical spine surgery. After my

first fusion, the weather didn't seem to bother me at all. I actually got

some some relief after my second surgery this past March. I'm now fused from

C2-C7. I'm back in a lot of pain again and I think it does have to do with

the weather. Also, I am wondering if anyone else uses the Flector patches?

They seem to really work for me. Granted they basically are just numbing

the area but hey, I will take any relief I can get. I don't take pain pills

or muscle relaxers anymore. They just don't work anymore. I'm curious as to

how any/all of you can take the same meds day in and day out and they

actually continue to work for you? Doesn't your body build up a tolerance to

them? I know that is why I stopped taking them.

Its been a while since I have chimed in. I hope everyone has a pain-free

weekend!!!

Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

[PainInTheNeck-<WBR>

_PainInTheNeck-_PainInThe<WPain_

(mailto:_PainInTheNeck-PainInTheNeck-<WPain_

(mailto:neck pain ) )

Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 8:26 PM

I'm curious..... ..how many in here are really effected by the weather? I

think most people don't believe me when I mention it....i think they just

think it's an excuse to get out of working. Which leads me to another

" symptom " ... ..I guess it's guilt...don' t know how to really explain it.

I'm

always wondering if other people actually believe I'm in pain. oh well.

I'm

scared to death i'm going to lose my job and the worry is killing me. self

fulfilling prophecy?

> >

> > Tom,

> >

> > Only when you can't so things anymore do you realize what you miss. I

miss being able to work, go out with my kids without being in pain and

suffering for days afterward, took my 5 year old trick or treating on main

street on Tuesday and was not fun but she did not know that although the

older

kids do. I miss being able to garden, drive anywhere. I miss being able to

clean my house with out pain. Going anywhere is painful but I do try so

hard to make the most of what I have become. At the moment am checking

emails

while cooking my back with a heating pad and waiting for the pain killers

to kick in so I can go vacumn.

> >

> >

> >

>

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Guest guest]

The meds dostart to not make as much of a difference but for me at least

they are still effective, but then I take quite a lot

In a message dated 10/31/2009 8:06:20 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,

carrie.heflin@... writes:

This is my first fall/winter since my 2nd cervical spine surgery. After my

first fusion, the weather didn't seem to bother me at all. I actually got

some some relief after my second surgery this past March. I'm now fused from

C2-C7. I'm back in a lot of pain again and I think it does have to do with

the weather. Also, I am wondering if anyone else uses the Flector patches?

They seem to really work for me. Granted they basically are just numbing

the area but hey, I will take any relief I can get. I don't take pain pills

or muscle relaxers anymore. They just don't work anymore. I'm curious as to

how any/all of you can take the same meds day in and day out and they

actually continue to work for you? Doesn't your body build up a tolerance to

them? I know that is why I stopped taking them.

Its been a while since I have chimed in. I hope everyone has a pain-free

weekend!!!

Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

[PainInTheNeck-<WBR>

_PainInTheNeck-_PainInThe<WPain_

(mailto:_PainInTheNeck-PainInTheNeck-<WPain_

(mailto:neck pain ) )

Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 8:26 PM

I'm curious..... ..how many in here are really effected by the weather? I

think most people don't believe me when I mention it....i think they just

think it's an excuse to get out of working. Which leads me to another

" symptom " ... ..I guess it's guilt...don' t know how to really explain it.

I'm

always wondering if other people actually believe I'm in pain. oh well.

I'm

scared to death i'm going to lose my job and the worry is killing me. self

fulfilling prophecy?

> >

> > Tom,

> >

> > Only when you can't so things anymore do you realize what you miss. I

miss being able to work, go out with my kids without being in pain and

suffering for days afterward, took my 5 year old trick or treating on main

street on Tuesday and was not fun but she did not know that although the

older

kids do. I miss being able to garden, drive anywhere. I miss being able to

clean my house with out pain. Going anywhere is painful but I do try so

hard to make the most of what I have become. At the moment am checking

emails

while cooking my back with a heating pad and waiting for the pain killers

to kick in so I can go vacumn.

> >

> >

> >

>

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Guest guest]

Colleen,,

   I have found a small bar stool to be a back saver in my kitchen;can't stand

long enough to chop onions,garlic, celery and the like. My hubby got me an

electric fry pan which has helped tons as I can sit on my stool and make stir

frys, and other complete meals in it. I also treasure my small electric chopper.

   I treasure anything that makes my kitchen chores easier and my hubby is

willing to help.

Deb Babcock

Watkins Assoc:382608

www.agape1947.com 

From: Coleen Fox <foxycol63@...>

Subject: Re: Re: what do you miss most..

neck pain

Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 9:01 AM

 

hi ,

My pain gets worse with the weather also.  I love to vacuum as well as other

household chores

that are now very difficult to do now with this chronic pain.  We did pick up

this light weight

vacuum cleaner that I can lift, very carefully, and use it all by myself.  I

hate being so dependant

on someone else.  I am sure glad I can do a little vacuuming at least now.  It

is still hard to push it

around on a flat carpet floor but I try to manuver myself just right to push it

and not strain myself..lol. .

and I have to take a few lay down breaks even vacuuming just this fifth wheel. 

I  hate feeling so useless,

so I endure some pain and take many breaks.

I love to cook too but can't stand very long at all anymore to cook so I have

learned to make spaghetti

pretty fast!  I chop those onions quick too. 

I still spend most of my time having to lay on one side or another as it hurts

just to lay down on my back with

my knees up.  It's almost like my lumbar back must be swollen or crooked enough

to push into the mattress and

make it hurt that way.  I don't know.

I am glad we got that smaller upright vacuum.  We were using a regular house

vacuum but it got to wear I couldn't push it or lift it and it isn't that

heavy.  I can't do much lifting anymore, it just crushes my spine, apparently.

Not only have I become a human baromenter also but I am sweating like crazy.  I

am going to have to shower

everyday as it gets very uncomfortable.   I am contributing this sweating to me

starting menopause.  

hugs, Coleen

 

____________ _________ _________ __

From: <caesareacattery>

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 6:03:44 AM

Subject: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Re: what do you miss most..

The weather definitely makes it worse, the day before any cold front comes in

the pain gets a lot worse. I just love being a human barometer. Vacuming is

extremely painful to do, I have to summon up the courage to do it.

------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

Colleen,,

   I have found a small bar stool to be a back saver in my kitchen;can't stand

long enough to chop onions,garlic, celery and the like. My hubby got me an

electric fry pan which has helped tons as I can sit on my stool and make stir

frys, and other complete meals in it. I also treasure my small electric chopper.

   I treasure anything that makes my kitchen chores easier and my hubby is

willing to help.

Deb Babcock

Watkins Assoc:382608

www.agape1947.com 

From: Coleen Fox <foxycol63@...>

Subject: Re: Re: what do you miss most..

neck pain

Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 9:01 AM

 

hi ,

My pain gets worse with the weather also.  I love to vacuum as well as other

household chores

that are now very difficult to do now with this chronic pain.  We did pick up

this light weight

vacuum cleaner that I can lift, very carefully, and use it all by myself.  I

hate being so dependant

on someone else.  I am sure glad I can do a little vacuuming at least now.  It

is still hard to push it

around on a flat carpet floor but I try to manuver myself just right to push it

and not strain myself..lol. .

and I have to take a few lay down breaks even vacuuming just this fifth wheel. 

I  hate feeling so useless,

so I endure some pain and take many breaks.

I love to cook too but can't stand very long at all anymore to cook so I have

learned to make spaghetti

pretty fast!  I chop those onions quick too. 

I still spend most of my time having to lay on one side or another as it hurts

just to lay down on my back with

my knees up.  It's almost like my lumbar back must be swollen or crooked enough

to push into the mattress and

make it hurt that way.  I don't know.

I am glad we got that smaller upright vacuum.  We were using a regular house

vacuum but it got to wear I couldn't push it or lift it and it isn't that

heavy.  I can't do much lifting anymore, it just crushes my spine, apparently.

Not only have I become a human baromenter also but I am sweating like crazy.  I

am going to have to shower

everyday as it gets very uncomfortable.   I am contributing this sweating to me

starting menopause.  

hugs, Coleen

 

____________ _________ _________ __

From: <caesareacattery>

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 6:03:44 AM

Subject: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Re: what do you miss most..

The weather definitely makes it worse, the day before any cold front comes in

the pain gets a lot worse. I just love being a human barometer. Vacuming is

extremely painful to do, I have to summon up the courage to do it.

------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

Colleen,,

   I have found a small bar stool to be a back saver in my kitchen;can't stand

long enough to chop onions,garlic, celery and the like. My hubby got me an

electric fry pan which has helped tons as I can sit on my stool and make stir

frys, and other complete meals in it. I also treasure my small electric chopper.

   I treasure anything that makes my kitchen chores easier and my hubby is

willing to help.

Deb Babcock

Watkins Assoc:382608

www.agape1947.com 

From: Coleen Fox <foxycol63@...>

Subject: Re: Re: what do you miss most..

neck pain

Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 9:01 AM

 

hi ,

My pain gets worse with the weather also.  I love to vacuum as well as other

household chores

that are now very difficult to do now with this chronic pain.  We did pick up

this light weight

vacuum cleaner that I can lift, very carefully, and use it all by myself.  I

hate being so dependant

on someone else.  I am sure glad I can do a little vacuuming at least now.  It

is still hard to push it

around on a flat carpet floor but I try to manuver myself just right to push it

and not strain myself..lol. .

and I have to take a few lay down breaks even vacuuming just this fifth wheel. 

I  hate feeling so useless,

so I endure some pain and take many breaks.

I love to cook too but can't stand very long at all anymore to cook so I have

learned to make spaghetti

pretty fast!  I chop those onions quick too. 

I still spend most of my time having to lay on one side or another as it hurts

just to lay down on my back with

my knees up.  It's almost like my lumbar back must be swollen or crooked enough

to push into the mattress and

make it hurt that way.  I don't know.

I am glad we got that smaller upright vacuum.  We were using a regular house

vacuum but it got to wear I couldn't push it or lift it and it isn't that

heavy.  I can't do much lifting anymore, it just crushes my spine, apparently.

Not only have I become a human baromenter also but I am sweating like crazy.  I

am going to have to shower

everyday as it gets very uncomfortable.   I am contributing this sweating to me

starting menopause.  

hugs, Coleen

 

____________ _________ _________ __

From: <caesareacattery>

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 6:03:44 AM

Subject: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Re: what do you miss most..

The weather definitely makes it worse, the day before any cold front comes in

the pain gets a lot worse. I just love being a human barometer. Vacuming is

extremely painful to do, I have to summon up the courage to do it.

------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

Colleen,,

   I have found a small bar stool to be a back saver in my kitchen;can't stand

long enough to chop onions,garlic, celery and the like. My hubby got me an

electric fry pan which has helped tons as I can sit on my stool and make stir

frys, and other complete meals in it. I also treasure my small electric chopper.

   I treasure anything that makes my kitchen chores easier and my hubby is

willing to help.

Deb Babcock

Watkins Assoc:382608

www.agape1947.com 

From: Coleen Fox <foxycol63@...>

Subject: Re: Re: what do you miss most..

neck pain

Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 9:01 AM

 

hi ,

My pain gets worse with the weather also.  I love to vacuum as well as other

household chores

that are now very difficult to do now with this chronic pain.  We did pick up

this light weight

vacuum cleaner that I can lift, very carefully, and use it all by myself.  I

hate being so dependant

on someone else.  I am sure glad I can do a little vacuuming at least now.  It

is still hard to push it

around on a flat carpet floor but I try to manuver myself just right to push it

and not strain myself..lol. .

and I have to take a few lay down breaks even vacuuming just this fifth wheel. 

I  hate feeling so useless,

so I endure some pain and take many breaks.

I love to cook too but can't stand very long at all anymore to cook so I have

learned to make spaghetti

pretty fast!  I chop those onions quick too. 

I still spend most of my time having to lay on one side or another as it hurts

just to lay down on my back with

my knees up.  It's almost like my lumbar back must be swollen or crooked enough

to push into the mattress and

make it hurt that way.  I don't know.

I am glad we got that smaller upright vacuum.  We were using a regular house

vacuum but it got to wear I couldn't push it or lift it and it isn't that

heavy.  I can't do much lifting anymore, it just crushes my spine, apparently.

Not only have I become a human baromenter also but I am sweating like crazy.  I

am going to have to shower

everyday as it gets very uncomfortable.   I am contributing this sweating to me

starting menopause.  

hugs, Coleen

 

____________ _________ _________ __

From: <caesareacattery>

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 6:03:44 AM

Subject: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Re: what do you miss most..

The weather definitely makes it worse, the day before any cold front comes in

the pain gets a lot worse. I just love being a human barometer. Vacuming is

extremely painful to do, I have to summon up the courage to do it.

------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

Deb, I use a shopping cart to be able to walk across Walmart when I am working,

& it eases my leg pain, & increases my endurance. I have been able to walk on a

path, if I use a stroller. Using these things opens up the disc spaces, &

relieves pressure on the spine. June

[PainInTheNeck- Back] Re: what do you miss most..

The weather definitely makes it worse, the day before any cold front comes in

the pain gets a lot worse. I just love being a human barometer. Vacuming is

extremely painful to do, I have to summon up the courage to do it.

------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

Deb, I use a shopping cart to be able to walk across Walmart when I am working,

& it eases my leg pain, & increases my endurance. I have been able to walk on a

path, if I use a stroller. Using these things opens up the disc spaces, &

relieves pressure on the spine. June

[PainInTheNeck- Back] Re: what do you miss most..

The weather definitely makes it worse, the day before any cold front comes in

the pain gets a lot worse. I just love being a human barometer. Vacuming is

extremely painful to do, I have to summon up the courage to do it.

------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

Deb, I use a shopping cart to be able to walk across Walmart when I am working,

& it eases my leg pain, & increases my endurance. I have been able to walk on a

path, if I use a stroller. Using these things opens up the disc spaces, &

relieves pressure on the spine. June

[PainInTheNeck- Back] Re: what do you miss most..

The weather definitely makes it worse, the day before any cold front comes in

the pain gets a lot worse. I just love being a human barometer. Vacuming is

extremely painful to do, I have to summon up the courage to do it.

------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

Deb, I use a shopping cart to be able to walk across Walmart when I am working,

& it eases my leg pain, & increases my endurance. I have been able to walk on a

path, if I use a stroller. Using these things opens up the disc spaces, &

relieves pressure on the spine. June

[PainInTheNeck- Back] Re: what do you miss most..

The weather definitely makes it worse, the day before any cold front comes in

the pain gets a lot worse. I just love being a human barometer. Vacuming is

extremely painful to do, I have to summon up the courage to do it.

------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

June,

It is amazing what we can live without and how creative we can be with what we

have when we have to, isn't it? I guess something good can come from something

bad.

Jane H.

From: birdcrazy624@... <birdcrazy624@...>

Subject: Re: Re: what do you miss most..

neck pain

Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 11:40 AM

 

For some of us who are self supporting, not working without

any source of

income is very difficult. It is even more difficult, when you go abruptly

from a high paying job, to a low paying job. I agree the best advice you

gave, is to insulate your self financially, & save money to plan for those

unexpected emergencies, & retirement. I am suffering needlessly, because I

spent money as if there was no tomorrow. I lived pay check to pay check, &

always had little savings in the bank. Now I found out who my real

friends are. I had friends who were there, when I could go out to expensive

places, & I could shower them with gifts, & provide free services to them. My

best friend is in the same boat as I am in, as she has neck, & spinal DDD,

with both neck, & spinal surgeries, & she is on disability. We are very

creative in finding inexpensive ways to entertain our selfs. June

In a message dated 10/31/2009 2:59:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

dmj25comcast (DOT) net writes:

Thanks for your response.... Thanks foThanks foTh

Danny

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> > >

>

> > > Only when you can't so things anymore do you realize what you miss.

I miss being able to work, go out with my kids without being in pain and

suffering for days afterward, took my 5 year old trick or treating on main

street on Tuesday and was not fun but she did not know that although the

older kids do. I miss being able to garden, drive anywhere. I miss being able

to clean my house with out pain. Going anywhere is painful but I do try so

hard to make the most of what I have become. At the moment am checking

emails while cooking my back with a heating pad and waiting for the pain

killers

to kick in so I can go vacumn.

>

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[Guest guest]

June,

It is amazing what we can live without and how creative we can be with what we

have when we have to, isn't it? I guess something good can come from something

bad.

Jane H.

From: birdcrazy624@... <birdcrazy624@...>

Subject: Re: Re: what do you miss most..

neck pain

Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 11:40 AM

 

For some of us who are self supporting, not working without

any source of

income is very difficult. It is even more difficult, when you go abruptly

from a high paying job, to a low paying job. I agree the best advice you

gave, is to insulate your self financially, & save money to plan for those

unexpected emergencies, & retirement. I am suffering needlessly, because I

spent money as if there was no tomorrow. I lived pay check to pay check, &

always had little savings in the bank. Now I found out who my real

friends are. I had friends who were there, when I could go out to expensive

places, & I could shower them with gifts, & provide free services to them. My

best friend is in the same boat as I am in, as she has neck, & spinal DDD,

with both neck, & spinal surgeries, & she is on disability. We are very

creative in finding inexpensive ways to entertain our selfs. June

In a message dated 10/31/2009 2:59:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

dmj25comcast (DOT) net writes:

Thanks for your response.... Thanks foThanks foTh

Danny

>

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>

> > > Tom,

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>

> > > Only when you can't so things anymore do you realize what you miss.

I miss being able to work, go out with my kids without being in pain and

suffering for days afterward, took my 5 year old trick or treating on main

street on Tuesday and was not fun but she did not know that although the

older kids do. I miss being able to garden, drive anywhere. I miss being able

to clean my house with out pain. Going anywhere is painful but I do try so

hard to make the most of what I have become. At the moment am checking

emails while cooking my back with a heating pad and waiting for the pain

killers

to kick in so I can go vacumn.

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[Guest guest]

June,

It is amazing what we can live without and how creative we can be with what we

have when we have to, isn't it? I guess something good can come from something

bad.

Jane H.

From: birdcrazy624@... <birdcrazy624@...>

Subject: Re: Re: what do you miss most..

neck pain

Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 11:40 AM

 

For some of us who are self supporting, not working without

any source of

income is very difficult. It is even more difficult, when you go abruptly

from a high paying job, to a low paying job. I agree the best advice you

gave, is to insulate your self financially, & save money to plan for those

unexpected emergencies, & retirement. I am suffering needlessly, because I

spent money as if there was no tomorrow. I lived pay check to pay check, &

always had little savings in the bank. Now I found out who my real

friends are. I had friends who were there, when I could go out to expensive

places, & I could shower them with gifts, & provide free services to them. My

best friend is in the same boat as I am in, as she has neck, & spinal DDD,

with both neck, & spinal surgeries, & she is on disability. We are very

creative in finding inexpensive ways to entertain our selfs. June

In a message dated 10/31/2009 2:59:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

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Thanks for your response.... Thanks foThanks foTh

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I miss being able to work, go out with my kids without being in pain and

suffering for days afterward, took my 5 year old trick or treating on main

street on Tuesday and was not fun but she did not know that although the

older kids do. I miss being able to garden, drive anywhere. I miss being able

to clean my house with out pain. Going anywhere is painful but I do try so

hard to make the most of what I have become. At the moment am checking

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[Guest guest]

June,

It is amazing what we can live without and how creative we can be with what we

have when we have to, isn't it? I guess something good can come from something

bad.

Jane H.

From: birdcrazy624@... <birdcrazy624@...>

Subject: Re: Re: what do you miss most..

neck pain

Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 11:40 AM

 

For some of us who are self supporting, not working without

any source of

income is very difficult. It is even more difficult, when you go abruptly

from a high paying job, to a low paying job. I agree the best advice you

gave, is to insulate your self financially, & save money to plan for those

unexpected emergencies, & retirement. I am suffering needlessly, because I

spent money as if there was no tomorrow. I lived pay check to pay check, &

always had little savings in the bank. Now I found out who my real

friends are. I had friends who were there, when I could go out to expensive

places, & I could shower them with gifts, & provide free services to them. My

best friend is in the same boat as I am in, as she has neck, & spinal DDD,

with both neck, & spinal surgeries, & she is on disability. We are very

creative in finding inexpensive ways to entertain our selfs. June

In a message dated 10/31/2009 2:59:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

dmj25comcast (DOT) net writes:

Thanks for your response.... Thanks foThanks foTh

Danny

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I miss being able to work, go out with my kids without being in pain and

suffering for days afterward, took my 5 year old trick or treating on main

street on Tuesday and was not fun but she did not know that although the

older kids do. I miss being able to garden, drive anywhere. I miss being able

to clean my house with out pain. Going anywhere is painful but I do try so

hard to make the most of what I have become. At the moment am checking

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[Guest guest]

Things I Miss Most:

Hunting...God forbid I did kill a deer...then what? Leave it there?

Combat Shooting

Going Out To A Movie (not being able to sit more than 15 minutes)

Going To A Restaurant (not being able to sit more than 15 minutes)

Sex.........what a joke!

Getting out of bed in the morning, hitting the shower and being out the door in

30 minutes instead of waiting 45 mins for the meds to kick in before attempting

the above.

Going on Road Trips....although I have to do it in my work....I wouldn't if I

didn't have to.

Not having to have everything planned out.

Walking my dogs for more than 10 minutes.

Boating and deep sea fishing.......did that last year...chartered...the captain

decided to speed up and it felt like the wave from A PERFECT STORM... thought I

was going to die.

Body Surfing in the Gulf.

Invitations from friends to do things.....after turning them down on a regular

basis......they finally stop asking.

Yardwork........not that I like it....but I'd rather do it than pay

to have it done.

Well just a few of my favorite things......I'll stop now.

Danny

[Guest guest]

Things I Miss Most:

Hunting...God forbid I did kill a deer...then what? Leave it there?

Combat Shooting

Going Out To A Movie (not being able to sit more than 15 minutes)

Going To A Restaurant (not being able to sit more than 15 minutes)

Sex.........what a joke!

Getting out of bed in the morning, hitting the shower and being out the door in

30 minutes instead of waiting 45 mins for the meds to kick in before attempting

the above.

Going on Road Trips....although I have to do it in my work....I wouldn't if I

didn't have to.

Not having to have everything planned out.

Walking my dogs for more than 10 minutes.

Boating and deep sea fishing.......did that last year...chartered...the captain

decided to speed up and it felt like the wave from A PERFECT STORM... thought I

was going to die.

Body Surfing in the Gulf.

Invitations from friends to do things.....after turning them down on a regular

basis......they finally stop asking.

Yardwork........not that I like it....but I'd rather do it than pay

to have it done.

Well just a few of my favorite things......I'll stop now.

Danny

[Guest guest]

Things I Miss Most:

Hunting...God forbid I did kill a deer...then what? Leave it there?

Combat Shooting

Going Out To A Movie (not being able to sit more than 15 minutes)

Going To A Restaurant (not being able to sit more than 15 minutes)

Sex.........what a joke!

Getting out of bed in the morning, hitting the shower and being out the door in

30 minutes instead of waiting 45 mins for the meds to kick in before attempting

the above.

Going on Road Trips....although I have to do it in my work....I wouldn't if I

didn't have to.

Not having to have everything planned out.

Walking my dogs for more than 10 minutes.

Boating and deep sea fishing.......did that last year...chartered...the captain

decided to speed up and it felt like the wave from A PERFECT STORM... thought I

was going to die.

Body Surfing in the Gulf.

Invitations from friends to do things.....after turning them down on a regular

basis......they finally stop asking.

Yardwork........not that I like it....but I'd rather do it than pay

to have it done.

Well just a few of my favorite things......I'll stop now.

Danny

[Guest guest]

Things I Miss Most:

Hunting...God forbid I did kill a deer...then what? Leave it there?

Combat Shooting

Going Out To A Movie (not being able to sit more than 15 minutes)

Going To A Restaurant (not being able to sit more than 15 minutes)

Sex.........what a joke!

Getting out of bed in the morning, hitting the shower and being out the door in

30 minutes instead of waiting 45 mins for the meds to kick in before attempting

the above.

Going on Road Trips....although I have to do it in my work....I wouldn't if I

didn't have to.

Not having to have everything planned out.

Walking my dogs for more than 10 minutes.

Boating and deep sea fishing.......did that last year...chartered...the captain

decided to speed up and it felt like the wave from A PERFECT STORM... thought I

was going to die.

Body Surfing in the Gulf.

Invitations from friends to do things.....after turning them down on a regular

basis......they finally stop asking.

Yardwork........not that I like it....but I'd rather do it than pay

to have it done.

Well just a few of my favorite things......I'll stop now.

Danny