back pain

March 20, 2004

--HI, DO YOU HAVE YOUR SHOE BUILT UP FOR YOUR LEG DIFFERENCE, IF NOT

IT MAY BE JUST THAT WHICH IS CAUSING YOUR BACK PAIN, JUST A THOUGHT.

SHEILA

- In Joint Replacement , " sallypimentel "

<Pimentel7@a...> wrote:

> I have had both hips replaced (right in 1/01 and left in 7/01)and

> consider the replacements to be successful. I also have arthritis

in

> both knees and believe the right leg is shorter. Been working

full

> time since January and find I have considerable back pain

especially

> by the end of the day. Also know I cannot walk for any long

distance

> before my back starts hurting. Any information or suggestions

would

> be most appreciated.

April 2, 2004

,

Please call the CLOS number and ask them what they recommend. We all want

you to be healthy and they can help you the best!

gretchen

************************

April 5, 2004

Many things can cause back pain. You can't possibly know if the cause is

musculoskeletal or if it's kidneys or urogenital unless you undergo an

appropriate

evaluation by an appropriate (read this as skillful) physician. Good luck.

Bruce

April 27, 2004

I have pain in my hip of a different nature now going into week 4.

Yes, I am scared a bit. I used to be a runner and I am leery that this

hip wont last. I feel a bit like the replicant in Blade Runner but I

wont fret about it. I'm lucky to have this artificial hip. I think

apprehension is natural and to some extent intelligent. Good luck,

Jim

On Tuesday, April 27, 2004, at 01:09 PM, twinsnow@... wrote:

> i am 5 weeks postop and my back is killing me. does anyone else have

> back and knee pain? also is anyone scared to face life once the

> restrictions are lifted. every doctor tells a different story and

> therefore it makes it hard to read stories and follow his directions.

> does anyone know what i mean?

>

April 27, 2004

i am 5 weeks postop and my back is killing me. does anyone else have back and knee pain? also is anyone scared to face life once the restrictions are lifted. every doctor tells a different story and therefore it makes it hard to read stories and follow his directions. does anyone know what i mean? YES, I HAVE BACK PAIN. CAN YOU GET REFERRED TO A PAIN CLINIC AND FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING IT? I HAD COUNTLESS THINGS WRONG WITH ME, BUT THEY ARE FIXING THEM, ONE BY ONE. I AM FOUR WEEKS POST-OP WITH A KNEE, FOLLOWING A HIP LAST OCTOBER. I FEEL LIKE MY LEGS ARE MADE OUT OF LEAD AND IT REQUIRES AN AWFUL LOT OF ENERGY JUST TO MOVE MY BODY THROUGH SPACE. THIS TOO, WILL PASS.

YOUR LIFE MAY END UP A BIT DIFFERENT, BUT GOD HAS PROMISED TO GIVE YOU GRACE TO BEAR WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH. WHATEVER HAPPENS, YOU WILL ADJUST AND LIFE WILL GO ON. YOU CAN DO THAT WITHOUT FEAR, TRY A BIT OF CURIOSITY. HOW CAN YOU MEET IT WITH A SMILE ?

YOU ARE THE BEST YOU THAT IS POSSIBLE. YOU ARE THE ONLY YOU THAT EVER HAS BEEN AND EVER WILL BE! SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE JUST LIKE ANYONE ELSE. THAT IS PROBABLY WHAT THE DOCTORS UNDERSTAND AND THAT IS WHY EVERYONE HAS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT STORY. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR STORY. EMAIL ME AND USE MIDGE FOR THE SUBJECT LINE SO I KNOW IT IS PERSONAL.

MARGE

WHAT HE BRINGS YOU TO,

HE WILL BRING YOU THROUGH.

April 27, 2004

--- Dr D Colby <jcolby@...> wrote:

> I have pain in my hip of a different nature now

> going into week 4.

> Yes, I am scared a bit. I used to be a runner and I

> am leery that this

> hip wont last. I feel a bit like the replicant in

> Blade Runner but I

> wont fret about it. I'm lucky to have this

> artificial hip. I think

> apprehension is natural and to some extent

> intelligent. Good luck,

>

> Jim

> On Tuesday, April 27, 2004, at 01:09 PM,

> twinsnow@... wrote:

>

> > i am 5 weeks postop and my back is killing me.

> does anyone else have

> > back and knee pain? also is anyone scared to face

> life once the

> > restrictions are lifted. every doctor tells a

> different story and

> > therefore it makes it hard to read stories and

> follow his directions.

> > does anyone know what i mean?

> >

April 28, 2004

Back and knee pain here. Both hips replaced in 2001, have oa in knees and will need them replaced too. Wish I knew how to fix the back pain.....think one leg is shorter than the other.....appointment with os again soon. As far as the hip restrictions.....it' scary at first, I know, but it doesn't take long to get in the grove of everyday life.

Sally

January 24, 2005

He saw the physio, who thought it might just be posture and his long

neck, and a bit of strain from exercise at school. So he will do

some strengthening exercises and maybe have an x-ray and see how it

goes.

> Perhaps Stephan's back pain is from the A. I know that the

spasms wreck havoc on my upper back and shoulders. Sometimes I'm in

constant pain from it. There is one spot that is really bad. Cindi

July 27, 2005

At 10:56 AM 8/1/05, you wrote:

>My husband has had chronic back pain for 5 years now. Different doctors

>have diagnosed him but no one can pinpoint the problem. Nothing shows up

>on the mri or bone scan. He is very depressed and has other medical

>problems because of this. I just don't know where to go or what to do.

>If someone can give me advice I would appreciate it.

>

>Ingrid

>NY

Welcome Ingrid, First I can give you some feedback from my situation, but

make sure your husband continues to search out Doctors, Pain Specialist

until someone can diagnose him. I've had 3 back surgeries and 1 neck

surgery. I am in disabling pain, but like your husband MRI's, Cat Scans ,

you name it, they can't find a cause or a trigger point to blame it

on, and therefore Shots, therapy etc don't work. After Seeing about 15

doctors in 3 states My last pain specialist came up with a diagnoses of

Facetts disease ( sp?) It's similar to Fibromialga, and is more in the

muscular Skelatal System than the Nerve System. I have pain down my whole

right side, but mainly my Right Shoulder and neck. I treat it with meds

24 x 7, Massages from my wife with a handheld massager ( Homedics about

$60 ) a Homedic Massage pad on my Bed 10 motor about $60 on sale at

Sears, and ICE Packs. The Ice packs really work. I also have a Tens Units

which is a little electronic nerve stimulator that can sometimes break up

the pain cycle. Hope this gives you some direction. Thanks for being a

Caring Spouse, I'm blessed to have one. Dave

August 1, 2005

Ingrid can you tell us the symptoms he has like where

the pain is located and what else is going on due to

his back pain

Sincerely Janine

> My husband has had chronic back pain for 5 years

> now. Different doctors have diagnosed him but no

> one can pinpoint the problem. Nothing shows up on

> the mri or bone scan. He is very depressed and has

> other medical problems because of this. I just

> don't know where to go or what to do.

> If someone can give me advice I would appreciate it.

>

> Ingrid

> NY

>

> ---------------------------------

> Start your day with - make it your home page

__________________________________________________

August 1, 2005

His pain is in the lower back, left hip, left foot. Also has numbness in left legJanine Newman <jnewmans1@...> wrote:

Ingrid can you tell us the symptoms he has like wherethe pain is located and what else is going on due tohis back painSincerely Janine> My husband has had chronic back pain for 5 years> now. Different doctors have diagnosed him but no> one can pinpoint the problem. Nothing shows up on> the mri or bone scan. He is very depressed and has> other medical problems because of this. I just> don't know where to go or what to do. > If someone can give me advice I would appreciate it.> > Ingrid> NY> > > ---------------------------------> Start your day with - make it your home

page__________________________________________________

August 1, 2005

Sounds like siatic nerve . I have the same problem .

>

> > My husband has had chronic back pain for 5 years

> > now. Different doctors have diagnosed him but no

> > one can pinpoint the problem. Nothing shows up on

> > the mri or bone scan. He is very depressed and

> has

> > other medical problems because of this. I just

> > don't know where to go or what to do.

> > If someone can give me advice I would appreciate

> it.

> >

> > Ingrid

> > NY

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Start your day with - make it your home

> page

>

> __________________________________________________

>

August 1, 2005

what did the doctor do for you? Smokie1952 <smokie1952@...> wrote:

Sounds like siatic nerve . I have the same problem .t your group "neck pain" on the web.

August 1, 2005

Ingrid

I would not normally suggest this but has he ever had

a discogram?? The procedure is very painful but it can

tell if the disc is bad and if the sack between the

vertebraes is not holding its fluid. I would also like

to know if they checked the MRI for a ruptured disc

that could be possibly pressing up against the spinal

nerves. everything you are saying sounds like the disc

could possibly be traveling in and out of the vetebrae

but has not herniated itself yet the reason being is

that the sack is not holding the fluid properly what

kind of doctor did the MRI??? I had the right side

affected first which was a sign of siatica which is

what I was diagnosed with on a few occasions before my

right side went numb and the left started to hurt that

was when a ortho doc explained that my disc had

shattered fragments were scattered throughout the

lower nerves but when the disc that was left herniated

it popped out to the left and was pushing on the

nerves on the left side my right was affected because

of the disc fragments and the left was because of the

way the disc popped out. the pain if it is the lower

back disc either the L-4-5 or the L-5 S-1 the pain

usually starts with the shrar pain in the back

followed by butt cheek pain (or numbness like tingling

feeling like if his foot were to fall asleep) or it

could be a burning sensation it goes from there to

outer side of the thigh then traveling down the back

side of the calve and ending up in the foot

extremities how does his pain start and diagram it as

if it were to follow down his leg to his foot does it

sound like that at all?? I hope that he is doing

better. Are some days better than others or is he

hurting all the time??? What are his pain levels at??

Have you researched any spine doctors or university

doctors what state are you located in? There is a

member in the group that told me about the spine

center I have here in California and the Stanford

University Doctors that specialize in the spine. I

hope this helps Ingrid I am so very sorry for his pain

and your a GREAT person for helping him and being by

his side through all of this. Have a good evening

Sincerely Janine In Cali

>

> > My husband has had chronic back pain for 5 years

> > now. Different doctors have diagnosed him but no

> > one can pinpoint the problem. Nothing shows up on

> > the mri or bone scan. He is very depressed and

> has

> > other medical problems because of this. I just

> > don't know where to go or what to do.

> > If someone can give me advice I would appreciate

> it.

> >

> > Ingrid

> > NY

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Start your day with - make it your home

> page

>

> __________________________________________________

>

August 2, 2005

Thank you for your support. I'm glad I found this group because I was feeling I had nowhere to turn. I have contacted a spine specialist and waiting to see what he says. Ingrid I would not normally suggest this but has he ever hada discogram?? The procedure is very painful but it cantell if the disc is bad and if the sack between thevertebraes is not holding its fluid. I would also liketo know if they checked the MRI for a ruptured discthat could be possibly pressing up against the spinalnerves. everything you are saying sounds like the disccould possibly be traveling in and out of the vetebraebut has not herniated itself yet the reason being isthat the sack is not holding the fluid properly whatkind of doctor did the MRI??? I had the right sideaffected first which was a sign of siatica which iswhat I was diagnosed with on a few occasions before myright side went numb and the left started to hurt thatwas when a ortho doc explained that my disc hadshattered fragments were scattered

throughout thelower nerves but when the disc that was left herniatedit popped out to the left and was pushing on thenerves on the left side my right was affected becauseof the disc fragments and the left was because of theway the disc popped out. the pain if it is the lowerback disc either the L-4-5 or the L-5 S-1 the painusually starts with the shrar pain in the backfollowed by butt cheek pain (or numbness like tinglingfeeling like if his foot were to fall asleep) or itcould be a burning sensation it goes from there toouter side of the thigh then traveling down the backside of the calve and ending up in the footextremities how does his pain start and diagram it asif it were to follow down his leg to his foot does itsound like that at all?? I hope that he is doingbetter. Are some days better than others or is hehurting all the time??? What are his pain levels at??Have you researched any spine doctors or

universitydoctors what state are you located in? There is amember in the group that told me about the spinecenter I have here in California and the StanfordUniversity Doctors that specialize in the spine. Ihope this helps Ingrid I am so very sorry for his painand your a GREAT person for helping him and being byhis side through all of this. Have a good evening Sincerely Janine In Cali> > > My husband has had chronic back pain for 5 years> > now. Different

doctors have diagnosed him but no> > one can pinpoint the problem. Nothing shows up on> > the mri or bone scan. He is very depressed and> has> > other medical problems because of this. I just> > don't know where to go or what to do. > > If someone can give me advice I would appreciate> it.> > > > Ingrid> > NY> > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Start your day with - make it your home> page> > > > __________________________________________________>

August 2, 2005

Dave

Thank you for your message. We are now waiting for the specialist's report. Also hoping after 5 years to get Social Security. Hope you are doing well." J. Cruikshank" <d.cruikshank@...> wrote:

At 10:56 AM 8/1/05, you wrote:>My husband has had chronic back pain for 5 years now. Different doctors >have diagnosed him but no one can pinpoint the problem. Nothing shows up >on the mri or bone scan. He is very depressed and has other medical >problems because of this. I just don't know where to go or what to do.>If someone can give me advice I would appreciate it.>>Ingrid>NYWelcome Ingrid, First I can give you some feedback from my situation, but make sure your husband continues to search out Doctors, Pain Specialist until someone can diagnose him. I've had 3 back surgeries and 1 neck surgery. I am in disabling pain, but like your husband MRI's, Cat Scans , you name it, they can't find a cause or a trigger point to blame it on, and

therefore Shots, therapy etc don't work. After Seeing about 15 doctors in 3 states My last pain specialist came up with a diagnoses of Facetts disease ( sp?) It's similar to Fibromialga, and is more in the muscular Skelatal System than the Nerve System. I have pain down my whole right side, but mainly my Right Shoulder and neck. I treat it with meds 24 x 7, Massages from my wife with a handheld massager ( Homedics about $60 ) a Homedic Massage pad on my Bed 10 motor about $60 on sale at Sears, and ICE Packs. The Ice packs really work. I also have a Tens Units which is a little electronic nerve stimulator that can sometimes break up the pain cycle. Hope this gives you some direction. Thanks for being a Caring Spouse, I'm blessed to have one. Dave __________________________________________________

August 2, 2005

Well keep us posted ok?? Ingrid McNeely <bluehelpone@...> wrote:

Thank you for your support. I'm glad I found this group because I was feeling I had nowhere to turn. I have contacted a spine specialist and waiting to see what he says. Ingrid I would not normally suggest this but has he ever hada discogram?? The procedure is very painful but it cantell if the disc is bad and if the sack between thevertebraes is not holding its fluid. I would also liketo know if they checked the MRI for a ruptured discthat could be possibly pressing up against the spinalnerves. everything you are saying sounds like the disccould possibly be traveling in and out of the vetebraebut has not herniated itself yet the reason being isthat the sack is not holding the fluid properly whatkind of doctor did the MRI??? I had the right sideaffected first which was a sign of siatica which iswhat I was diagnosed with on a few occasions before myright side went numb and the left started to hurt thatwas when a ortho doc explained that my disc hadshattered fragments were scattered

throughout thelower nerves but when the disc that was left herniatedit popped out to the left and was pushing on thenerves on the left side my right was affected becauseof the disc fragments and the left was because of theway the disc popped out. the pain if it is the lowerback disc either the L-4-5 or the L-5 S-1 the painusually starts with the shrar pain in the backfollowed by butt cheek pain (or numbness like tinglingfeeling like if his foot were to fall asleep) or itcould be a burning sensation it goes from there toouter side of the thigh then traveling down the backside of the calve and ending up in the footextremities how does his pain start and diagram it asif it were to follow down his leg to his foot does itsound like that at all?? I hope that he is doingbetter. Are some days better than others or is hehurting all the time??? What are his pain levels at??Have you researched any spine doctors or

universitydoctors what state are you located in? There is amember in the group that told me about the spinecenter I have here in California and the StanfordUniversity Doctors that specialize in the spine. Ihope this helps Ingrid I am so very sorry for his painand your a GREAT person for helping him and being byhis side through all of this. Have a good evening Sincerely Janine In Cali> > > My husband has had chronic back pain for 5 years> > now. Different

doctors have diagnosed him but no> > one can pinpoint the problem. Nothing shows up on> > the mri or bone scan. He is very depressed and> has> > other medical problems because of this. I just> > don't know where to go or what to do. > > If someone can give me advice I would appreciate> it.> > > > Ingrid> > NY> > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Start your day with - make it your home> page> > > > __________________________________________________>

August 18, 2005

Just be careful, as there are many possible causes for the symptoms you

describe.

It will be easy for you to test if the high frequency noise in your wiring is

causing your problem. Just use the filters.

Emil

Less EMF Inc.

back pain

Hello all,

Thank you so much for your inputs.

I have pain all over, in the muscles and joints, but especially in the

hip going up to the lower back. I think this explains it!

I believe I have found what I was looking for at:

http://www.electricalpollution.com/

Here is the part of the article that I found applied to me.

" Without the proper filters these high frequencies are transmitted

throughout the house's electrical system with the 60 Hz signal. The high

frequencies on home wiring can cause Radiofrequency Sickness. The

symptoms of which can include: sleeplessness or disturbed sleep, fever,

rash, nausea, inability to concentrate, thinking in a fog, short-term

memory problems, sore joints (particularly hip joints), irritable bowel

syndrome, miscarriage, and birth defects. The symptoms that come and go,

particularly the fever, clear up outside of the exposure area as long as

there is not continued exposure to high frequencies from another source. "

Comments anyone?

Thank you so much

judy

August 18, 2005

> Comments anyone?

These filters do have their advocates, and I'd certainly

be interested in hearing what happens if you try them.

I have very limited experience with these filters,

and it was an unpleasant, piercing headache that caused

me to stop using them rather quickly.

Marc

August 18, 2005

Hello Judy,

electrosmog is guilty for a lot, but not for everything.

Pain in the back and in the legs may come from magnetic DC fields.

These can be found in all metal parts of your bed.

I have just removed the iron footings of our bed, and the difference is

enormously.

Furthermore pain in teh back may come froma shortage of Silicea.

You can takes that as pills, which they sell in drugstores.

Silicea can be made from stones, but it is better to look for those made

from fish shells.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Norton Antivirus

back pain

> Hello all,

> Thank you so much for your inputs.

>

> I have pain all over, in the muscles and joints, but especially in the

> hip going up to the lower back. I think this explains it!

>

> I believe I have found what I was looking for at:

> http://www.electricalpollution.com/

>

> Here is the part of the article that I found applied to me.

>

> " Without the proper filters these high frequencies are transmitted

> throughout the house's electrical system with the 60 Hz signal. The high

> frequencies on home wiring can cause Radiofrequency Sickness. The

> symptoms of which can include: sleeplessness or disturbed sleep, fever,

> rash, nausea, inability to concentrate, thinking in a fog, short-term

> memory problems, sore joints (particularly hip joints), irritable bowel

> syndrome, miscarriage, and birth defects. The symptoms that come and go,

> particularly the fever, clear up outside of the exposure area as long as

> there is not continued exposure to high frequencies from another source. "

>

> Comments anyone?

>

> Thank you so much

>

> judy

>

August 18, 2005

I have been using the Stetzer Filters for about 3 months now both at

home and when I travel. To me, they do make a big difference in that

area of the spectrum. I usually use two power strips and plug in 3 or 4

in each power strip when there is a reading of over 150 or 200 and they

usually bring it down to under 50. I am happy to report that in some

hotels and homes that I have been able to get the reading down to

around 4 (practically nothing). I have been in some buildings where the

readings where so high (over 1500) that the meter blanked out from the

over load. I used about 8 Stetzer filters and brought it down to around

200. Better than nothing.

I think that only using 1 or 2 won't be much help in a bad situation

because the filter will be overload and whine.

With 3 or 4 on one strip, they rarely overload.

my 2 cents,

On Aug 18, 2005, at 1:07 PM, Marc wrote:

>> Comments anyone?

>

> These filters do have their advocates, and I'd certainly

> be interested in hearing what happens if you try them.

>

> I have very limited experience with these filters,

> and it was an unpleasant, piercing headache that caused

> me to stop using them rather quickly.

>

> Marc

>

August 18, 2005

Interstingly, I always get pain in the lower back and legs when I travel

for long distances by coach. Eg eight hours. I put this down to the

build up of static electricity in the body due to rubber tyres....but

the pain always goes a few minutes after getting out and walking around.

Re: back pain

Hello Judy,

electrosmog is guilty for a lot, but not for everything.

Pain in the back and in the legs may come from magnetic DC fields. These

can be found in all metal parts of your bed.

I have just removed the iron footings of our bed, and the difference is

enormously.

Furthermore pain in teh back may come froma shortage of Silicea. You can

takes that as pills, which they sell in drugstores. Silicea can be made

from stones, but it is better to look for those made from fish shells.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Norton Antivirus

back pain

> Hello all,

> Thank you so much for your inputs.

>

> I have pain all over, in the muscles and joints, but especially in the

> hip going up to the lower back. I think this explains it!

>

> I believe I have found what I was looking for at:

> http://www.electricalpollution.com/

>

> Here is the part of the article that I found applied to me.

>

> " Without the proper filters these high frequencies are transmitted

> throughout the house's electrical system with the 60 Hz signal. The

> high frequencies on home wiring can cause Radiofrequency Sickness. The

> symptoms of which can include: sleeplessness or disturbed sleep,

> fever, rash, nausea, inability to concentrate, thinking in a fog,

> short-term memory problems, sore joints (particularly hip joints),

> irritable bowel syndrome, miscarriage, and birth defects. The symptoms

> that come and go, particularly the fever, clear up outside of the

> exposure area as long as there is not continued exposure to high

> frequencies from another source. "

>

> Comments anyone?

>

> Thank you so much

>

> judy

>

August 19, 2005

Benson, (Sen L. ) wrote:

> Interstingly, I always get pain in the lower back and legs when I travel

> for long distances by coach. Eg eight hours. I put this down to the

> build up of static electricity in the body due to rubber tyres....but

> the pain always goes a few minutes after getting out and walking around.

Do you wear regular shoes, or ones with grounding soles? I've found

that grounding soles prevent the shocks I used to get after leaving

my car.

Marc

August 19, 2005

You can also ground your self to your vehicle very conveniently with the

Bio-Grounder http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html#213

And you can ground your car to the Earth with the Vehicle Ground Strap

http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html#214