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I wrote in about the overwhelming plaque I have had. I use those disposable

plastic toothpick/tooth floss things and every other day I scrape down all

of my teeth and I have to wipe off the plaque every couple of teeth! It is

really gross, and I don't share this with anyone but I figured there may be

someone else having the same thing with the overproduction of plaque! yuck.

Any suggestions on what to do to prevent plaque buildup besides scraping

(which I don't think is super great to do to my enamel?) and brushing?

my 5 year " birthday " is in about 3 weeks. Any of my July 20 littermates

still around? I think most of my littermates on this board weren't actually

July 20 babies, but from that same week. (?)

Hope everyone is doing well

Lee

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July 20, 2000

283 / 130 (+/- 5 lbs) ~ which has stayed within a 5 lb range for over 3

years without even trying, I just try not to revolve my life around fpood. I

eat healthy and if I want something unhealthy I have a little and forget

about it!!!! I think not being consumed with food has helped me not regain

the weight. I finally have a " healthy " relationship with my food! yea

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my dentist recommends flossing 2X a day. people having trouble with

gatorade can also rinse with water afterwards. that will help.

cathy s in va

> I wrote in about the overwhelming plaque I have had. I use those

disposable

> plastic toothpick/tooth floss things and every other day I scrape

down all

> of my teeth and I have to wipe off the plaque every couple of

teeth! It is

> really gross, and I don't share this with anyone but I figured

there may be

> someone else having the same thing with the overproduction of

plaque! yuck.

> Any suggestions on what to do to prevent plaque buildup besides

scraping

> (which I don't think is super great to do to my enamel?) and

brushing?

> my 5 year " birthday " is in about 3 weeks. Any of my July 20

littermates

> still around? I think most of my littermates on this board weren't

actually

> July 20 babies, but from that same week. (?)

> Hope everyone is doing well

>

> Lee

> TeacherGator

> July 20, 2000

> 283 / 130 (+/- 5 lbs) ~ which has stayed within a 5 lb range for

over 3

> years without even trying, I just try not to revolve my life around

fpood. I

> eat healthy and if I want something unhealthy I have a little and

forget

> about it!!!! I think not being consumed with food has helped me not

regain

> the weight. I finally have a " healthy " relationship with my food!

yea

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My doctor recommends a tool called the roto dent to be used every day, she

prefers twice a day. She says that other tools (toothbrushes and most

other tools) are like trying to mow around a mailbox with a lawn mower when

everyone knows you need a weedwacker...

It works very well, but you have to use it every day. I use it with an

antibacterial wash and change washes every 3 months...I had problems

before but they are tougher after mgb, I think.

V who hates yard work in general...

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I think one reason may be the use of Gatorade, which has a lot of sugar in

it, and also citric acid, which has been implicated in tooth decay. Make

sure you brush your teeth often if you are drinking a lot of Gatorade, or

other drinks with citric acid.

Joanie

5/25/04

Drs. Walsh and Rutledge

>From: " Queen " <valmaboyz@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: RE: teeth

>Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:20:32 -0400

>

>I have to say, I have had many more cavities since the MGB...I am not sure

>what the cause would be or if there is even a relationship between the MGB

>and decay. I have always battled with periodontal disease so I go 4 times a

>year and often have a cavity free check up but RARELY go two times without

>at least one small cavity...Hate it, but it is a small price to pay, if

>they

>are even connected...

>

> _____

>

>From: [mailto: ] On

>Behalf Of Suzanne Neighbors

>Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:58 PM

>

>Subject: teeth

>

>

>has anyone had any problems with cavities since MGB, and if so please give

>me specifics.

>

>Suzanne

>1/24/03

>245/145

>

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Hi, Stuck,

I think you'll have to look at what is causing her

cavities. Do you brush her teeth well (but not really

hard: use a soft-bristled children's toothbrush to

save the enamel) twice a day with a toothbrush and

some toothpaste--even a non-fluoride one? (We use

Tom's of Maine, non-fluoride. No cavities yet for our

4 and 1.5 year olds.) Does she have a special

condition that is rotting her teeth? Does she eat a

lot of sweets and go to bed with a bottle? (Sounds

like no...)

Anyway, I hope you go very soon to a good dentist or

pediatric dentist if you can find one and see what

they say about how to help her teeth. Following a

dentist's advice seems definitely the best idea: right

now she's clearly not doing very well teeth-health

wise. Dentists do really care about healthy mouths: a

good dentist would give the best advice.

Then after that, try to improve her diet the best you

can with healthy toddler foods.

I know a lot of Americans are deeply

skeptical/distrustful about Western medicine. I am to

some degree, myself. But having lived in a developing

country (still there), I see clearly that so much of

Western medicine--especially dentistry--is a great

gift to mankind, and we're really lucky to have access

to it. It's not all crap: a lot of it provides

enormous relief and blessings.

Good luck and let us know the results!

Ann

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Stuck

Is there fluoride in your water supply. In some areas it is

naturally occuring and you can buy filters, i've seen them

advertised. Do your neighbours have problems too. In England we

have various water boards and i believe 10per cent still put

fluoride in the water. I think It is banned elsewhere in Europe.

However when my nephew was younger i think there was a lot more

putting it in water and his teeth went completely rotten too and it

was found at the time the water had high levels of fluoride in it. >

Maybe this has been ruled out by you but i thought it worth

mentioning.

Sally

> I am VERY Against Fluoride, but my 2 year olds mouth is literally

caroding down as I sit here. in 4 months she went from 4 cavaties to

12. She had to have her eye teeth taken out yesterday as they were

unsavable. She needs fillings, and caps. poor thing is only 2 but

she's in a lot of pain adn she's gonna hopefully have these teeth

for a few years. this is a real nut shella nd down played of how bad

the problem is, Howw ill vco help her? IA m also very proud of

myself tonight i got her to sleep with out Breast feeding her. :)

hse' is slowly weaning. YEAHH. ( sorry had to add thata s i have

been trying for MONTHS)

>

> thanks for nay help in diet or herbs or such that may help. :) off

list if need be. :)

>

> Stuck

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Stuck

How is this going to affect your 2 year old as regards to her second

teeth coming through. Has the dentist told you anything about

that. You obviously do not give your child sweets and of course you

make sure they are brushed properly, as others have susgested. There

must be something more than that anyway that's causing the problem.

Vco used as a toothpaste would help kill bacteria and of course

would not contain fluoride.

Sally

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> I am VERY Against Fluoride, but my 2 year olds mouth is literally

caroding down as I sit here. in 4 months she went from 4 cavaties to

12. She had to have her eye teeth taken out yesterday as they were

unsavable. She needs fillings, and caps. poor thing is only 2 but

she's in a lot of pain adn she's gonna hopefully have these teeth

for a few years. this is a real nut shella nd down played of how bad

the problem is, Howw ill vco help her? IA m also very proud of

myself tonight i got her to sleep with out Breast feeding her. :)

hse' is slowly weaning. YEAHH. ( sorry had to add thata s i have

been trying for MONTHS)

>

> thanks for nay help in diet or herbs or such that may help. :) off

list if need be. :)

>

> Stuck

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-- In Coconut Oil , " Ann E. Hendricks "

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> Hi, Stuck,

>

> I think you'll have to look at what is causing her

> cavities. Do you brush her teeth well (but not really

> hard: use a soft-bristled children's toothbrush to

> save the enamel) twice a day with a toothbrush and

> some toothpaste--even a non-fluoride one? (We use

> Tom's of Maine, non-fluoride. No cavities yet for our

> 4 and 1.5 year olds.) Does she have a special

> condition that is rotting her teeth? Does she eat a

> lot of sweets and go to bed with a bottle? (Sounds

> like no...)

>

> Anyway, I hope you go very soon to a good dentist or

> pediatric dentist if you can find one and see what

> they say about how to help her teeth. Following a

> dentist's advice seems definitely the best idea: right

> now she's clearly not doing very well teeth-health

> wise. Dentists do really care about healthy mouths: a

> good dentist would give the best advice.

>

> Then after that, try to improve her diet the best you

> can with healthy toddler foods.

>

> I know a lot of Americans are deeply

> skeptical/distrustful about Western medicine. I am to

> some degree, myself. But having lived in a developing

> country (still there), I see clearly that so much of

> Western medicine--especially dentistry--is a great

> gift to mankind, and we're really lucky to have access

> to it. It's not all crap: a lot of it provides

> enormous relief and blessings.

>

> Good luck and let us know the results!

>

> Ann

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Drinking anything like milk or juice before bedtime without brushing can cause

cavities.......not sure if VCO could counteract that.

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Carol, which ped. dentist did he talk to? Are you talking about Children's in Chicago?

Marcy

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He talked to the Ped Dentist office right next to his in Grey's Lake. Kid's Dentist, but they are not the ones who would do it. They have interns on staff at Children's who will do that for you. You have to set it up through who ever is doing the sugery to begin with, in our case, the ENT.

We may have to get her teeth cleaned prior to the procedure due to the bacteria being released from the cleaning. Applying the sealent alone doesn't do that.

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Dry Mouth keep the normal cleansing from happening and gums and teeth

deteriorate

SSRI medications

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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:08:12 -0500

Subject: teeth

anybody ever hear of antidepressants or psychotropics ruining teeth?

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Ritalin did that to me as a child.

involuntarily or unconsciously clenching or grinding the teeth, typically

during sleep

antidepressants well known to cause bruxism

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> anybody ever hear of antidepressants or psychotropics ruining teeth?

>

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yeah I been almost two and a half years out, was medicated four and a quarter,

my teeth have been bothering me for quite a while now, I know I have heard of

methadone wrecking teeth, was just wondering

teeth

anybody ever hear of antidepressants or psychotropics ruining teeth?

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they put fluoride in the water to protect teeth, you must be confused.

Re: teeth

They contain fluoride...which ruins teeth.

Fluoride calcifies the pineal gland....the source of serotonin and

melatonin.. using the bloody stuff is insane, fullstop eh?

http://tobefree.wordpress.com/2007/11/04/most-ssri-antidepressants-contain-fluor\

ide/

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> anybody ever hear of antidepressants or psychotropics ruining teeth?

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no, not confused, educated, fluoride causes fluorosis, first sign is chalky

white mottling of teeth called dental fluorosis, Dentists make $600-$1,200 PER

TOOTH to repair fluorosis damage

more people die from fluoride poisoning each year than from AIDS, in fact more

than twice as many from fluoride than AIDS

Re: teeth

They contain fluoride...which ruins teeth.

Fluoride calcifies the pineal gland....the source of serotonin and

melatonin.. using the bloody stuff is insane, fullstop eh?

http://tobefree.wordpress.com/2007/11/04/most-ssri-antidepressants-contain-fluor\

ide/

>

> anybody ever hear of antidepressants or psychotropics ruining teeth?

>

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Yeah, and they put psychotropic medications on the market to cure mental

illness. It is still amazing to me that we have been so duped for so long by the

pharmaceutical companies about so many different " additives " and " medications. "

As the child of a dental technician/hygienist and a former dental/periodontal

surgical assistant, I can tell you that flouride is poison if taken in large

enough doses. The low (but still toxic) levels they put in the public drinking

water systems cause flourosis, defects in tooth anatomy, and digestive problems

(nausea, colic, etc).

We used to caution patients NOT TO SWALLOW for at least five minutes after using

a prescription flouride rinse that we gave them to increase the likelihood that

bone implants and gum surgery would be successful. We told them to rinse and

then continue to spit for at least 5 more minutes. Why? POISON!

Terry

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They contain fluoride...which ruins teeth.

Fluoride calcifies the pineal gland....the source of serotonin and

melatonin.. using the bloody stuff is insane, fullstop eh?

http://tobefree. wordpress. com/2007/ 11/04/most- ssri-antidepress ants-contain-

fluoride/

>

> anybody ever hear of antidepressants or psychotropics ruining teeth?

>

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I recently attended a public event where an expert denounced fluoride.

Check out http://www.fluoridealert.org/

These two statements were enough to convince me to steer clear of tap

water and toothpaste:

" The fluoride chemical added to water is an unprocessed, industrial

waste-product from the pollution scrubbers of the phosphate fertilizer

industry. "

" Fluoride, the active ingredient in many pesticides and rodenticides,

is a powerful poison - more acutely poisonous than lead. "

I brush with baking soda now.

> they put fluoride in the water to protect teeth, you must be confused.

>

> Re: teeth

>

>

> They contain fluoride...which ruins teeth.

> Fluoride calcifies the pineal gland....the source of serotonin and

> melatonin.. using the bloody stuff is insane, fullstop eh?

>

>

http://tobefree.wordpress.com/2007/11/04/most-ssri-antidepressants-contain-fluor\

ide/

>

>

> >

> > anybody ever hear of antidepressants or psychotropics ruining teeth?

> >

> >

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It is amazing Terry. But then again as decent, law abiding people we

naively assumed that others (especially those who are meant to take

care of us, protect our rights, those we put in power), share the

same high standards of common decency and ethics...How stupid we

were...... Clearly it is not until you are BURNT that you learn the

hardest, most valuable lessons in life...then you try to warn others

so as to prevent their unnecessary suffering...ha!

What a job that has turned out to be! Even your nearest and dearest.

The idea that someone would deliberately risk people's lives and

health by putting poison in their water, toothpaste, 'meds',cosmetics,

FOOD is too much to fathom...surely not??? SURELY NOT???

Surely YES!!!

Welcome to planet earth where money and power is more important than

anything, or ANYBODY.

The only way to prevent more nasty surprises along the way is to self

educate, to be informed and one step ahead .

Praise the heavens above for the internet.

Why oh why did I start using it TOO LATE???

Best wishes.

Steph

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> > anybody ever hear of antidepressants or psychotropics ruining teeth?

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Hi ,

Well… I had the metal screws ( 2) fitted to the bone on Thursday , swellings

down today ( sun) and the dissolvable stitches are coming out- still a bit sore

though- have been able to reduce painkillers. The actual treatment was fine as

I chose to have a ‘waking sedation’ which entails an intravenous

injection of a sedative of the rohypnol family of drugs, after treatment this

wears of quickly, but rest recommended. I can’t remember a thing. The

rest of the treatment will be a breeze in comparison…Opening the gum to

fit the caps that will eventually hold the bridge in 4 months time ( normal

numbing injection)- fitting the teeth a month later!

Hi

I've been considering implants, well considerig implants if I win the lottery

but I'd heard they can be painful.Does it get better?

Hi

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I’m having the same problem- gradually losing my teeth to abscesses that

no amount of penicillin, or root canals seem to be able to clear. At the moment

I’m going the painful expensive route of having 3 of my back teeth

replaced with implants.

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Hi Teri,

I have developed peridontal disease and my dentist has said that it is

probably because of the acid in my mouth all these years.

Donna

>

> I was wondering if anyone in the group has

> experienced teeth problems. In the last 3

> years I seem to be getting numerous cavities.

> Any thoughts on this? I do also have a problem

> with absorbing calcium, so I know this is a factor,

> but I'm wondering if the achalasia is also one.

> Thanks guys,

> Teri

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Hi just jumping in here... surely if the acid is strong enough to damage our teeth wouldnt it damage other things and wouldnt we know about it...

Andy

2008/5/13 donnagaboury <donnagaboury@...>:

Hi Teri,I have developed peridontal disease and my dentist has said that it isprobably because of the acid in my mouth all these years.

Donna>> I was wondering if anyone in the group has> experienced teeth problems. In the last 3

> years I seem to be getting numerous cavities.> Any thoughts on this? I do also have a problem> with absorbing calcium, so I know this is a factor,> but I'm wondering if the achalasia is also one.

> Thanks guys,> Teri>------------------------------------

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