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>From: glitterari@... >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: Re: Petition >Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:12:44 EST > >I just checked the Prozac petition and it looks fine to me with 5433 >signatures. I haven't had any problems whatsoever with accessing the >signatures. What's going on with you guys??? LOL Having a Paxil or Prozac >moment???? MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here

February 11, 2002

Ha ha ha.!!! Nope. It really happened Glitter. I was checking things out, getting ready for the First Strike, and this weekend ALL THE SIGNATURES WERE GONE !!!

Of course, it sent me into a panick, so I put out an SOS, and contacted PetitionOnline support. Later, they posted a message saying they were upgrading their servers...

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>From: glitterari@... >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: Re: Petition >Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:12:44 EST > >I just checked the Prozac petition and it looks fine to me with 5433 >signatures. I haven't had any problems whatsoever with accessing the >signatures. What's going on with you guys??? LOL Having a Paxil or Prozac >moment???? MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here

February 11, 2002

Ha ha ha.!!! Nope. It really happened Glitter. I was checking things out, getting ready for the First Strike, and this weekend ALL THE SIGNATURES WERE GONE !!!

Of course, it sent me into a panick, so I put out an SOS, and contacted PetitionOnline support. Later, they posted a message saying they were upgrading their servers...

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>From: glitterari@... >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: Re: Petition >Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:12:44 EST > >I just checked the Prozac petition and it looks fine to me with 5433 >signatures. I haven't had any problems whatsoever with accessing the >signatures. What's going on with you guys??? LOL Having a Paxil or Prozac >moment???? MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here

February 11, 2002

Ha ha ha.!!! Nope. It really happened Glitter. I was checking things out, getting ready for the First Strike, and this weekend ALL THE SIGNATURES WERE GONE !!!

Of course, it sent me into a panick, so I put out an SOS, and contacted PetitionOnline support. Later, they posted a message saying they were upgrading their servers...

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>From: glitterari@... >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: Re: Petition >Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:12:44 EST > >I just checked the Prozac petition and it looks fine to me with 5433 >signatures. I haven't had any problems whatsoever with accessing the >signatures. What's going on with you guys??? LOL Having a Paxil or Prozac >moment???? MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here

February 11, 2002

Sandi,

I just checked it at 5:33 Mtn. Standard Time. It looks fine to me! 5433 Signatures.The Avenging Angel

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>From: PaySDPayne@... >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: Petition >Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:01:07 EST > >Hi everyone > is the petition in cursive writing know or did I do something?I can't read >it. >Let me know OK. > Sandi Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here

February 11, 2002

Sandi,

I just checked it at 5:33 Mtn. Standard Time. It looks fine to me! 5433 Signatures.The Avenging Angel

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>From: PaySDPayne@... >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: Petition >Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:01:07 EST > >Hi everyone > is the petition in cursive writing know or did I do something?I can't read >it. >Let me know OK. > Sandi Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here

February 11, 2002

Sandi,

I just checked it at 5:33 Mtn. Standard Time. It looks fine to me! 5433 Signatures.The Avenging Angel

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>From: PaySDPayne@... >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: Petition >Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:01:07 EST > >Hi everyone > is the petition in cursive writing know or did I do something?I can't read >it. >Let me know OK. > Sandi Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here

February 11, 2002

Sandi,

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http://www.2.netdoor.com/~bill/prosurv/fda95adr.html

>From: PaySDPayne@... >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: Petition >Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:01:07 EST > >Hi everyone > is the petition in cursive writing know or did I do something?I can't read >it. >Let me know OK. > Sandi Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here

February 13, 2002

Hi,

You cite a number of facts in your petition but show no references for

them. I think it would be beneficial for you to do so.

Regards,

February 16, 2002

Hi ,

Thanks for taking the time to post. As to your contentions that a

number of the facts in the petition have no backing references,

perhaps you should go back and re-read the petition. Each point

outlined there is indeed fully documented. Part 1, which is the basic

introduction to the petition illustrating 10 claims, states at it's

close, " All points outlined above are supported by documented findings

published in The Guardian; 'They said it was safe'; Boseley;

October 30, 1999 "

The points further outlined subsequent to the above - numbered 1-8,

followed by another set of claims - are fully documented, as cited

within each claim. I hope this clarifies and answers your concerns...

Collissa Weber

- In SSRI medications@y..., " Creel " <ccreel@m...> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> You cite a number of facts in your petition but show no

references

for

> them. I think it would be beneficial for you to do so.

>

> Regards,

>

February 16, 2002

Hi ,

Thanks for taking the time to post. As to your contentions that a

number of the facts in the petition have no backing references,

perhaps you should go back and re-read the petition. Each point

outlined there is indeed fully documented. Part 1, which is the basic

introduction to the petition illustrating 10 claims, states at it's

close, " All points outlined above are supported by documented findings

published in The Guardian; 'They said it was safe'; Boseley;

October 30, 1999 "

The points further outlined subsequent to the above - numbered 1-8,

followed by another set of claims - are fully documented, as cited

within each claim. I hope this clarifies and answers your concerns...

Collissa Weber

- In SSRI medications@y..., " Creel " <ccreel@m...> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> You cite a number of facts in your petition but show no

references

for

> them. I think it would be beneficial for you to do so.

>

> Regards,

>

February 16, 2002

Hi Colissa,

You said:

<<Thanks for taking the time to post. As to your contentions that a

number of the facts in the petition have no backing references,

perhaps you should go back and re-read the petition. Each point

outlined there is indeed fully documented. Part 1, which is the basic

introduction to the petition illustrating 10 claims, states at it's

close, " All points outlined above are supported by documented findings

published in The Guardian; 'They said it was safe'; Boseley;

October 30, 1999 " >>

If you had the original souirces rather than citing The Guardian, etc.,

the document would be more impressive.

For example, you cite:

" Dr. Teicher, whose early 1990's studies linked Prozac to akathisia

and suicide, is a co-inventor of the new Prozac, along with J.

Barberich, the CEO of Sepracor Inc., (a Marlborough drug company), and

W. Young. They filed their patent in August 1993, the same year Teicher

published " Antidepressant Drugs and the Emergence of Suicidal Tendencies " ,

which concluded that patients on Prozac were at least three times more

likely to become suicidal than those on older antidepressants. (Journal Drug

Safety) "

Using the science and medical search engine Scirus, PubMed,

Medline, and Teicher's website at Harvard, the journal mentioned

above cannot be found. This is what you want your citations to look like:

Fava M, Dunner DL, Greist JH, et al.

Efficacy and safety of mirtazapine in major depressive disorder

patients after SSRI treatment failure: an open-label trial.

J Clin Psychiatry (United States), Jun 2001, 62(6) p413-20

You're sending this to The Office of the Surgeon General of the United

States; The Department of Health & Human Services; The Federal Bureau of

Investigations and The Justice Department. Making the citations

professional and traceable would make your assertions in the petition

more believeable. Some of your other citations are newspaper articles.

They are not considered valid sources of facts.

I'd be glad to help with this if you'd like to pursue it. You're

bucking

som very powerful movement - pharmaceutical, medical, political. It

would give you more of an advantage to approach this as professionally

and acurately as possible.

This is not a criticism. I want to help.

Regards,

February 16, 2002

Hi Colissa,

You said:

<<Thanks for taking the time to post. As to your contentions that a

number of the facts in the petition have no backing references,

perhaps you should go back and re-read the petition. Each point

outlined there is indeed fully documented. Part 1, which is the basic

introduction to the petition illustrating 10 claims, states at it's

close, " All points outlined above are supported by documented findings

published in The Guardian; 'They said it was safe'; Boseley;

October 30, 1999 " >>

If you had the original souirces rather than citing The Guardian, etc.,

the document would be more impressive.

For example, you cite:

" Dr. Teicher, whose early 1990's studies linked Prozac to akathisia

and suicide, is a co-inventor of the new Prozac, along with J.

Barberich, the CEO of Sepracor Inc., (a Marlborough drug company), and

W. Young. They filed their patent in August 1993, the same year Teicher

published " Antidepressant Drugs and the Emergence of Suicidal Tendencies " ,

which concluded that patients on Prozac were at least three times more

likely to become suicidal than those on older antidepressants. (Journal Drug

Safety) "

Using the science and medical search engine Scirus, PubMed,

Medline, and Teicher's website at Harvard, the journal mentioned

above cannot be found. This is what you want your citations to look like:

Fava M, Dunner DL, Greist JH, et al.

Efficacy and safety of mirtazapine in major depressive disorder

patients after SSRI treatment failure: an open-label trial.

J Clin Psychiatry (United States), Jun 2001, 62(6) p413-20

You're sending this to The Office of the Surgeon General of the United

States; The Department of Health & Human Services; The Federal Bureau of

Investigations and The Justice Department. Making the citations

professional and traceable would make your assertions in the petition

more believeable. Some of your other citations are newspaper articles.

They are not considered valid sources of facts.

I'd be glad to help with this if you'd like to pursue it. You're

bucking

som very powerful movement - pharmaceutical, medical, political. It

would give you more of an advantage to approach this as professionally

and acurately as possible.

This is not a criticism. I want to help.

Regards,

February 16, 2002

Dear ,

Thank you for your concern. I noticed that Collissa has also responded to your concern. Collissa is the author of the Eli Lilly & Prozac Petition. Others (myself included) reviewed the first few drafts for accuracy and to give additional input. Collissa is a published author, and is detail oriented. We know how very important it is to be able to verify all points brought up in this petition. You may also want to refer to the following links for back-up to the statements made in the petition. If you need any further evidence of the veracity of all points covered, please let me know.

FDA Listing of reported Adverse Drug Reactions to Prozac (1987-1995)

Guardian - Happy drug Prozac can bring on impulse to suicide, study says

By Boseley, health correspondent - Monday, May 22, 2000

http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,223570,00.html

Guardian - Spiral of Violence Blamed on Prozac

By Browne, Health Editor - Sunday, March 12, 2000

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Print/0,3858,3973045,00.html

Eli Lilly's internal memos proving they knew Prozac had serious side effects:

http://www.baumhedlundlaw.com/media/timeline.html

Problems With Prozac - Dr. Bourgignon

http://www.camtech.net.au/malam/reports/prozac.htm

Neuroscientist Says No to Drugs:

http://www.oikos.org/brainchemistry.htm

Did 140 People Die because they took Prozac?

http://www.lineone.net/express/00/04/02news/n0220prozad-d.html

Murder, suicide. A bitter taste of the 'Wonder' depression drug

http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4201752,00.html

Antidepressant Addiction Warning

http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/health/newsid_1382000/1382551.stm

Doctor's Guilty of Not Providing Adequate Information About Side Effects

http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/health/newsid_222000/222098.stm

Long Term Consequences of Prozac Use Unknown

http://www.abcnews.go.com/onair/CloserLook/wnt00410_CL_antidepressants_feature.html

, I have many many more references than these listed here, along with several case histories of victims affected by Prozac and other SSRI drugs. Let me know how I can help you... Evidently you want to make sure your facts are straight. So do we.

The Avenging Angel

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http://www.2.netdoor.com/~bill/prosurv/fda95adr.html

>From: " Creel"

>Reply-SSRI medications >

>Subject: Re: Petition >Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 10:01:37 -0500 > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here

Hi,

You cite a number of facts in your petition but show no references for

them. I think it would be beneficial for you to do so.

Regards,

February 16, 2002

Dear ,

Thank you for your concern. I noticed that Collissa has also responded to your concern. Collissa is the author of the Eli Lilly & Prozac Petition. Others (myself included) reviewed the first few drafts for accuracy and to give additional input. Collissa is a published author, and is detail oriented. We know how very important it is to be able to verify all points brought up in this petition. You may also want to refer to the following links for back-up to the statements made in the petition. If you need any further evidence of the veracity of all points covered, please let me know.

FDA Listing of reported Adverse Drug Reactions to Prozac (1987-1995)

Guardian - Happy drug Prozac can bring on impulse to suicide, study says

By Boseley, health correspondent - Monday, May 22, 2000

http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,223570,00.html

Guardian - Spiral of Violence Blamed on Prozac

By Browne, Health Editor - Sunday, March 12, 2000

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Print/0,3858,3973045,00.html

Eli Lilly's internal memos proving they knew Prozac had serious side effects:

http://www.baumhedlundlaw.com/media/timeline.html

Problems With Prozac - Dr. Bourgignon

http://www.camtech.net.au/malam/reports/prozac.htm

Neuroscientist Says No to Drugs:

http://www.oikos.org/brainchemistry.htm

Did 140 People Die because they took Prozac?

http://www.lineone.net/express/00/04/02news/n0220prozad-d.html

Murder, suicide. A bitter taste of the 'Wonder' depression drug

http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4201752,00.html

Antidepressant Addiction Warning

http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/health/newsid_1382000/1382551.stm

Doctor's Guilty of Not Providing Adequate Information About Side Effects

http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/health/newsid_222000/222098.stm

Long Term Consequences of Prozac Use Unknown

http://www.abcnews.go.com/onair/CloserLook/wnt00410_CL_antidepressants_feature.html

, I have many many more references than these listed here, along with several case histories of victims affected by Prozac and other SSRI drugs. Let me know how I can help you... Evidently you want to make sure your facts are straight. So do we.

The Avenging Angel

Please sign the petitions at: