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My heart goes out to you Georgina. It's so tough never quite knowing what

you are going to wake up to in the morning. Life is so easy when things are

normal, it's easy to forget the tough times. You must be wondering why this

happened. If only we all knew. We have certainly had our tough times with

but we are truely blessed at the moment. Your story though reminds me

that it could happen to us tomorrow! Good luck to your family and my

thoughts are with you during this tough patch.

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georgina, i am sorry to hear about your son, josh. he sounds like a great

kid, im sure he is.

well tristans appointment for his joint injections is 2 days away and i am

very nervous and trying not to think about it until its time. i got some bad

news yesterday though, tristans rheumy called yesterday and he is VERY anemic

and the stool samples proved he was passing blood. so, they think the

ibuprofen is hurting his tummy and even though hes now taking zantac (i threw

out the liquid and got the pills to crush up) they want to take him off the

motrin. i said " well thats his greatest pain reliever! what do i give him

now? " they said childrens tylenol..yeah! sure! thats like taking PEZ for a

broken foot! and he hates the taste of the tylenol. then to top it all off,

last night we were up all night because tristan started to run a fever (it

was 103.3) and he was miserable. his knees are the size of apples and his

ankles are so swollen. i think hes catching a cold, i pray its not the flu

because then we may have to postpone the joint injections which will kill me

because with him being off the motrin he is in much pain. so i went against

doc's orders and gave him half a dose of motrin. he is feeling much better.

so i know how frustrating this is for everyone. i was so upset last night. i

wonder whens enough FINALLY going to be enough?! i can take a beating but my

child cant. it hurts us all to see them cry. cheri

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Dear Georgina, I am so sorry to hear about Josh. This disease is so

sneaky. When n feels good I am on top of the world. Then it just

seems to crash in when she has a bad day, and as you know we never know when

they are coming. It gets so depressing to see these kids suffer, and no one

can seem to help. No one knows why these kids have their flares.

n is in her second week of school and so far so good. Her hands are

getting more swollen, but they are just stiff, not sore. She gets the rash

everyday still, but we have been fever free for one month. I really hate

this disease. When our children are doing well , it is even hard to believe

that they are sick. But soon enough they flare, and we are brought back to

reality.

Most everything I know about this disease I have learned through you and

your sight. You are doing a great service for people . I can't thank you

enough. It seems like I know more than the doctors now. We will keep Josh

in our prayers. in Portland

Josh's Update

>From: Georgina <gmckin@...>

>

>Hello everyone,

>

>I hope things are still going in the right direction, health-wise, for

>those whose children are doing well. It's reassuring to hear how others

>have gone through so much and then had periods of feeling well, at last.

>I was so overjoyed at how well Josh was doing. This was the best xmas

>season he's had in 3 years time. The notorious winter-time flare,

>unrelated to any changes in weather around here, was over more quickly

>than usual. His visit last month with the rheumatologist went fantastic.

>All his joints were good. No systemic symptoms. Even the ferritin level

>came back within the normal range. School started yesterday. He went in

>looking so healthy and happy ... and had a great day. Was so happy to be

>back in the old routine and get to hang out with all his friends. even

>enjoyed doing his homework!

>

>Then, this morning, he could barely get down the stairs. Even his long

>shower didn't help. When he feels like this, we all seem to move a

>little slower in the morning. Kayla didn't want to be late for school

>though, on her second day back, so I sort of rushed things along, as

>gently as I could. Getting dressed, having breakfast, taking meds,

>fixing the children's hair... and off we went to the car, me rolling

>Josh's backpack-on-wheels to speed things along a little bit.

>

>Drove to the school, parked in front of the handicapped spot because

>someone else was in it, got out and went around to the other side

>because Josh needed help today with his seatbelt. Kayla jumped out and

>after a hug and kiss was on her way, smiling, to her classroom. I

>reached in to undo Josh's seatbelt for him and saw tear stains on his

>cheeks. That makes me feel so sad. I asked him how he was doing and he

>said not good at all. He was sore everywhere! He said he thought he had

>a fever, too. He wanted to go lay down at the nurse's office. I helped

>him out of the car and felt his forehead. Didn't feel too warm to me but

>then again, I didn't want to accept that he could even have a fever

>after doing so well the past month. He lifted up his shorts to show me

>his thigh. Full blown JRA rash was back again! All splotchy and red. I

>lifted his T-shirt up and there it was, covering his chest too.

>

>I said let's just go see your teacher and drop off your backpack. Let's

>at least let her know you're here at school but not feeling so good and

>that you'll be back in class when you're feeling a little better, later.

>Sometimes even when the mornings are really bad, Josh will start

>improving and wind up feeling just fine again, in a couple of hours. We

>walked past the health room and went on to his classroom. The teacher

>immediately knew that he was not well. She said it was amazing how

>things can change so suddenly, just overnight. She has regular RA, so

>she's very understanding. She asked Josh how his joints were feeling and

>he showed us his wrists. They were fine just yesterday but today, he has

>major swelling/developing-nodules again and they are hot to touch. I let

>her know that we'd stop at the nurse's to take Josh's temp, as I broke

>our thermometer here at home and with Josh doing so well, we hadn't yet

>needed to replace it. Well, the nurse took his temp and it kept climbing

>higher and higher till it finally started beeping .... at 104.

>

>So, our plans for the morning changed. I took Josh back home with me,

>stopping first at Long's to buy a new thermometer. He was trying to

>figure out why this happened and said maybe his wrists got swollen

>because he hadn't been at school for almost a month and when he went

>back yesterday he did more writing than he had for a long time. I really

>don't know. Maybe that had something to do with his bent finger and

>swollen wrists but it doesn't explain the high fever or rash. Meanwhile,

>Josh is resting, sleeping on and off, here on the couch. I don't think

>he'll be going back to school today. It's after 11:30 and there isn't

>much improvement yet. Plus, Wednesday is their short day and they get

>out at 1:15pm. So, we'll try again tomorrow (after Dr appt.) or Friday.

>He really wanted to be at school today, as they get their report cards

>and he loves seeing how well he's done. He thinks he made the Honor Roll

>again. If so, that will cheer him up a bit :)

>

>Sorry for such a long story. Some people can be so concise in just a few

>words. I'll have to work harder on that :) But now you've got the full

>story. Josh was doing really, really well. No pain or sore joints for a

>long time, a month ... and now this again! But he'll be okay, I'm sure.

>After taking it easy. I didn't even call his pediatrician, as his

>rheumatologist is coming over tomorrow for the Maui JRA clinic and it's

>probably better that we talk to him about this. Last month he said that

>if Josh stayed stable for the next few weeks we might consider lowering

>the prednisone dose. I hope this doesn't interfere with that. I'll let

>you all know how it goes.

>

>Aloha,

>Georgina

>

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Hi Georgina

I'm finally back myself. My computer died a month ago, just got it finally

all repaired and up and running today. I had 328 e-mails WOW! But that's

okay I spent quite a bit of time reading them and deleting the junk.

For the new parent's on the list welcome. To let them know who I am, I

will briefly tell you that I have a 13 year old daughter who has systemic

JRA and who was diagnosed at the age of 2.

Georgina, I can fully relate to you and Josh's flare. That happened to us

many, many times, but hang in there, it will settle again.

To update you all on Leigh-Ann, she is doing really well right now. Her

arthritis has been very quiet (thank God) for over a year now. I can only

say that I feel that the cyclosporine has made the difference to her and

all of us.

She hasn't had a kidney stone attack in a few months either, so hopefully

that is starting to settle down as well. We have been steroid free for such

a long time I'm hoping that the stones will be less and less.

Georgina I'm saying a special prayer for you and Josh that his flare is

quick and will quieten down fast.

Well gotta get back to all the e-mails and it's good to be back with the

group.

-Coady

Josh's Update

From: Georgina <gmckin@...>

Hello everyone,

I hope things are still going in the right direction, health-wise, for

those whose children are doing well. It's reassuring to hear how others

have gone through so much and then had periods of feeling well, at last.

I was so overjoyed at how well Josh was doing. This was the best xmas

season he's had in 3 years time. The notorious winter-time flare,

unrelated to any changes in weather around here, was over more quickly

than usual. His visit last month with the rheumatologist went fantastic.

All his joints were good. No systemic symptoms. Even the ferritin level

came back within the normal range. School started yesterday. He went in

looking so healthy and happy ... and had a great day. Was so happy to be

back in the old routine and get to hang out with all his friends. even

enjoyed doing his homework!

Then, this morning, he could barely get down the stairs. Even his long

shower didn't help. When he feels like this, we all seem to move a

little slower in the morning. Kayla didn't want to be late for school

though, on her second day back, so I sort of rushed things along, as

gently as I could. Getting dressed, having breakfast, taking meds,

fixing the children's hair... and off we went to the car, me rolling

Josh's backpack-on-wheels to speed things along a little bit.

Drove to the school, parked in front of the handicapped spot because

someone else was in it, got out and went around to the other side

because Josh needed help today with his seatbelt. Kayla jumped out and

after a hug and kiss was on her way, smiling, to her classroom. I

reached in to undo Josh's seatbelt for him and saw tear stains on his

cheeks. That makes me feel so sad. I asked him how he was doing and he

said not good at all. He was sore everywhere! He said he thought he had

a fever, too. He wanted to go lay down at the nurse's office. I helped

him out of the car and felt his forehead. Didn't feel too warm to me but

then again, I didn't want to accept that he could even have a fever

after doing so well the past month. He lifted up his shorts to show me

his thigh. Full blown JRA rash was back again! All splotchy and red. I

lifted his T-shirt up and there it was, covering his chest too.

I said let's just go see your teacher and drop off your backpack. Let's

at least let her know you're here at school but not feeling so good and

that you'll be back in class when you're feeling a little better, later.

Sometimes even when the mornings are really bad, Josh will start

improving and wind up feeling just fine again, in a couple of hours. We

walked past the health room and went on to his classroom. The teacher

immediately knew that he was not well. She said it was amazing how

things can change so suddenly, just overnight. She has regular RA, so

she's very understanding. She asked Josh how his joints were feeling and

he showed us his wrists. They were fine just yesterday but today, he has

major swelling/developing-nodules again and they are hot to touch. I let

her know that we'd stop at the nurse's to take Josh's temp, as I broke

our thermometer here at home and with Josh doing so well, we hadn't yet

needed to replace it. Well, the nurse took his temp and it kept climbing

higher and higher till it finally started beeping .... at 104.

So, our plans for the morning changed. I took Josh back home with me,

stopping first at Long's to buy a new thermometer. He was trying to

figure out why this happened and said maybe his wrists got swollen

because he hadn't been at school for almost a month and when he went

back yesterday he did more writing than he had for a long time. I really

don't know. Maybe that had something to do with his bent finger and

swollen wrists but it doesn't explain the high fever or rash. Meanwhile,

Josh is resting, sleeping on and off, here on the couch. I don't think

he'll be going back to school today. It's after 11:30 and there isn't

much improvement yet. Plus, Wednesday is their short day and they get

out at 1:15pm. So, we'll try again tomorrow (after Dr appt.) or Friday.

He really wanted to be at school today, as they get their report cards

and he loves seeing how well he's done. He thinks he made the Honor Roll

again. If so, that will cheer him up a bit :)

Sorry for such a long story. Some people can be so concise in just a few

words. I'll have to work harder on that :) But now you've got the full

story. Josh was doing really, really well. No pain or sore joints for a

long time, a month ... and now this again! But he'll be okay, I'm sure.

After taking it easy. I didn't even call his pediatrician, as his

rheumatologist is coming over tomorrow for the Maui JRA clinic and it's

probably better that we talk to him about this. Last month he said that

if Josh stayed stable for the next few weeks we might consider lowering

the prednisone dose. I hope this doesn't interfere with that. I'll let

you all know how it goes.

Aloha,

Georgina

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Cheri,

My heart goes out to you I hope Tristin is doing better? I have

home

again because he woke up felling bad and has another flare. Does anyone out

there

whos child is sick with jra also notice that their childs eyes are very

sensitive to

sunlight of flouresent light?? Take care all.

Teena

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Georgina,

Hello how is Josh doing? I sure hope that he is feeling much

better:)

Isn't it so weird how they can be ok then just over nite get sick I know I've

got

home he was fine last nite then during the nite he became ill again.

Everytime

he gets sick I get scared because this time last year he was hospitalized due

to his jra and that is truely scarey! It sounds to me like Josh is a real

trooper like

my derek he hates missing school and there are many times when he does go

and he is not feeling to good he says " Oh mom I will be ok " . I hope he will be

well enough to go to basketball camp this weekend coming up well see, he

really

likes sports but, I'am very cautious! but that's a mom you get worried

everytime

they catch a cold. Take care:)

Teena

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Dearest Georgina:

I am really sorry to hear that Josh is not doing so well. I hope by today he

is feeling much better. I hate this sneaky illness, it always creeps up on the

poor kids when least expected. But I am sure he will overcome this flare just

like he has done in the past. But I know how frustrating it can become. I am

so proud of Josh for being such an incredibly good student. He is such a jewel

and I am sure he must be making you proud too. Please congradulate him on my

behalf for being such a good and honarable student. You guies are in my

prayers. Please take care and I look forward to hearing from you that Josh is

doing much better.

Sincerely,

Afsi

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Georgina,

I am really sorry to hear that Josh is flaring again and I hope he improves

very soon.

Here is a small photo of Damien from Xmas (he likes to be called Kipper now

for some reason). I know I shouldn't really post this to the list, but it is

only 16Kb, and I reckon some of your longer emails must easily take up that

much space ;-)

Best Wishes,

Oliver

Josh's Update

> From: Georgina <gmckin@...>

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I hope things are still going in the right direction, health-wise, for

> those whose children are doing well. It's reassuring to hear how others

> have gone through so much and then had periods of feeling well, at last.

> I was so overjoyed at how well Josh was doing. This was the best xmas

> season he's had in 3 years time. The notorious winter-time flare,

> unrelated to any changes in weather around here, was over more quickly

> than usual. His visit last month with the rheumatologist went fantastic.

> All his joints were good. No systemic symptoms. Even the ferritin level

> came back within the normal range. School started yesterday. He went in

> looking so healthy and happy ... and had a great day. Was so happy to be

> back in the old routine and get to hang out with all his friends. even

> enjoyed doing his homework!

>

> Then, this morning, he could barely get down the stairs. Even his long

> shower didn't help. When he feels like this, we all seem to move a

> little slower in the morning. Kayla didn't want to be late for school

> though, on her second day back, so I sort of rushed things along, as

> gently as I could. Getting dressed, having breakfast, taking meds,

> fixing the children's hair... and off we went to the car, me rolling

> Josh's backpack-on-wheels to speed things along a little bit.

>

> Drove to the school, parked in front of the handicapped spot because

> someone else was in it, got out and went around to the other side

> because Josh needed help today with his seatbelt. Kayla jumped out and

> after a hug and kiss was on her way, smiling, to her classroom. I

> reached in to undo Josh's seatbelt for him and saw tear stains on his

> cheeks. That makes me feel so sad. I asked him how he was doing and he

> said not good at all. He was sore everywhere! He said he thought he had

> a fever, too. He wanted to go lay down at the nurse's office. I helped

> him out of the car and felt his forehead. Didn't feel too warm to me but

> then again, I didn't want to accept that he could even have a fever

> after doing so well the past month. He lifted up his shorts to show me

> his thigh. Full blown JRA rash was back again! All splotchy and red. I

> lifted his T-shirt up and there it was, covering his chest too.

>

> I said let's just go see your teacher and drop off your backpack. Let's

> at least let her know you're here at school but not feeling so good and

> that you'll be back in class when you're feeling a little better, later.

> Sometimes even when the mornings are really bad, Josh will start

> improving and wind up feeling just fine again, in a couple of hours. We

> walked past the health room and went on to his classroom. The teacher

> immediately knew that he was not well. She said it was amazing how

> things can change so suddenly, just overnight. She has regular RA, so

> she's very understanding. She asked Josh how his joints were feeling and

> he showed us his wrists. They were fine just yesterday but today, he has

> major swelling/developing-nodules again and they are hot to touch. I let

> her know that we'd stop at the nurse's to take Josh's temp, as I broke

> our thermometer here at home and with Josh doing so well, we hadn't yet

> needed to replace it. Well, the nurse took his temp and it kept climbing

> higher and higher till it finally started beeping .... at 104.

>

> So, our plans for the morning changed. I took Josh back home with me,

> stopping first at Long's to buy a new thermometer. He was trying to

> figure out why this happened and said maybe his wrists got swollen

> because he hadn't been at school for almost a month and when he went

> back yesterday he did more writing than he had for a long time. I really

> don't know. Maybe that had something to do with his bent finger and

> swollen wrists but it doesn't explain the high fever or rash. Meanwhile,

> Josh is resting, sleeping on and off, here on the couch. I don't think

> he'll be going back to school today. It's after 11:30 and there isn't

> much improvement yet. Plus, Wednesday is their short day and they get

> out at 1:15pm. So, we'll try again tomorrow (after Dr appt.) or Friday.

> He really wanted to be at school today, as they get their report cards

> and he loves seeing how well he's done. He thinks he made the Honor Roll

> again. If so, that will cheer him up a bit :)

>

> Sorry for such a long story. Some people can be so concise in just a few

> words. I'll have to work harder on that :) But now you've got the full

> story. Josh was doing really, really well. No pain or sore joints for a

> long time, a month ... and now this again! But he'll be okay, I'm sure.

> After taking it easy. I didn't even call his pediatrician, as his

> rheumatologist is coming over tomorrow for the Maui JRA clinic and it's

> probably better that we talk to him about this. Last month he said that

> if Josh stayed stable for the next few weeks we might consider lowering

> the prednisone dose. I hope this doesn't interfere with that. I'll let

> you all know how it goes.

>

> Aloha,

> Georgina

>

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Oliver,

Damien is so cute! Thanks for sharing with us. Janet

Josh's Update

> From: Georgina <gmckin@...>

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I hope things are still going in the right direction, health-wise, for

> those whose children are doing well. It's reassuring to hear how others

> have gone through so much and then had periods of feeling well, at last.

> I was so overjoyed at how well Josh was doing. This was the best xmas

> season he's had in 3 years time. The notorious winter-time flare,

> unrelated to any changes in weather around here, was over more quickly

> than usual. His visit last month with the rheumatologist went fantastic.

> All his joints were good. No systemic symptoms. Even the ferritin level

> came back within the normal range. School started yesterday. He went in

> looking so healthy and happy ... and had a great day. Was so happy to be

> back in the old routine and get to hang out with all his friends. even

> enjoyed doing his homework!

>

> Then, this morning, he could barely get down the stairs. Even his long

> shower didn't help. When he feels like this, we all seem to move a

> little slower in the morning. Kayla didn't want to be late for school

> though, on her second day back, so I sort of rushed things along, as

> gently as I could. Getting dressed, having breakfast, taking meds,

> fixing the children's hair... and off we went to the car, me rolling

> Josh's backpack-on-wheels to speed things along a little bit.

>

> Drove to the school, parked in front of the handicapped spot because

> someone else was in it, got out and went around to the other side

> because Josh needed help today with his seatbelt. Kayla jumped out and

> after a hug and kiss was on her way, smiling, to her classroom. I

> reached in to undo Josh's seatbelt for him and saw tear stains on his

> cheeks. That makes me feel so sad. I asked him how he was doing and he

> said not good at all. He was sore everywhere! He said he thought he had

> a fever, too. He wanted to go lay down at the nurse's office. I helped

> him out of the car and felt his forehead. Didn't feel too warm to me but

> then again, I didn't want to accept that he could even have a fever

> after doing so well the past month. He lifted up his shorts to show me

> his thigh. Full blown JRA rash was back again! All splotchy and red. I

> lifted his T-shirt up and there it was, covering his chest too.

>

> I said let's just go see your teacher and drop off your backpack. Let's

> at least let her know you're here at school but not feeling so good and

> that you'll be back in class when you're feeling a little better, later.

> Sometimes even when the mornings are really bad, Josh will start

> improving and wind up feeling just fine again, in a couple of hours. We

> walked past the health room and went on to his classroom. The teacher

> immediately knew that he was not well. She said it was amazing how

> things can change so suddenly, just overnight. She has regular RA, so

> she's very understanding. She asked Josh how his joints were feeling and

> he showed us his wrists. They were fine just yesterday but today, he has

> major swelling/developing-nodules again and they are hot to touch. I let

> her know that we'd stop at the nurse's to take Josh's temp, as I broke

> our thermometer here at home and with Josh doing so well, we hadn't yet

> needed to replace it. Well, the nurse took his temp and it kept climbing

> higher and higher till it finally started beeping .... at 104.

>

> So, our plans for the morning changed. I took Josh back home with me,

> stopping first at Long's to buy a new thermometer. He was trying to

> figure out why this happened and said maybe his wrists got swollen

> because he hadn't been at school for almost a month and when he went

> back yesterday he did more writing than he had for a long time. I really

> don't know. Maybe that had something to do with his bent finger and

> swollen wrists but it doesn't explain the high fever or rash. Meanwhile,

> Josh is resting, sleeping on and off, here on the couch. I don't think

> he'll be going back to school today. It's after 11:30 and there isn't

> much improvement yet. Plus, Wednesday is their short day and they get

> out at 1:15pm. So, we'll try again tomorrow (after Dr appt.) or Friday.

> He really wanted to be at school today, as they get their report cards

> and he loves seeing how well he's done. He thinks he made the Honor Roll

> again. If so, that will cheer him up a bit :)

>

> Sorry for such a long story. Some people can be so concise in just a few

> words. I'll have to work harder on that :) But now you've got the full

> story. Josh was doing really, really well. No pain or sore joints for a

> long time, a month ... and now this again! But he'll be okay, I'm sure.

> After taking it easy. I didn't even call his pediatrician, as his

> rheumatologist is coming over tomorrow for the Maui JRA clinic and it's

> probably better that we talk to him about this. Last month he said that

> if Josh stayed stable for the next few weeks we might consider lowering

> the prednisone dose. I hope this doesn't interfere with that. I'll let

> you all know how it goes.

>

> Aloha,

> Georgina

>

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Hello all,

Sorry to hear about Josh's bad, bad day. I have noticed with Jess, her

forehead may not seem warm, but she will have a pretty high fever going. I

think that's one major thing we as parents need to be aware of, always check

with a thermometer. I didn't think she had one on the 4th when at the

rheumy's, but sure enough she had a fever!! We have one of those ear

thermometers. They can be a little pricey, but are so convenient and quick,

and seem to be more accurate than a regular under the tongue one.

Hope Josh is feeling better and not in a major flare. Keep us updated if

you can!!

Jodi

Georgina wrote:

> From: Georgina <gmckin@...>

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I hope things are still going in the right direction, health-wise, for

> those whose children are doing well. It's reassuring to hear how others

> have gone through so much and then had periods of feeling well, at last.

> I was so overjoyed at how well Josh was doing. This was the best xmas

> season he's had in 3 years time. The notorious winter-time flare,

> unrelated to any changes in weather around here, was over more quickly

> than usual. His visit last month with the rheumatologist went fantastic.

> All his joints were good. No systemic symptoms. Even the ferritin level

> came back within the normal range. School started yesterday. He went in

> looking so healthy and happy ... and had a great day. Was so happy to be

> back in the old routine and get to hang out with all his friends. even

> enjoyed doing his homework!

>

> Then, this morning, he could barely get down the stairs. Even his long

> shower didn't help. When he feels like this, we all seem to move a

> little slower in the morning. Kayla didn't want to be late for school

> though, on her second day back, so I sort of rushed things along, as

> gently as I could. Getting dressed, having breakfast, taking meds,

> fixing the children's hair... and off we went to the car, me rolling

> Josh's backpack-on-wheels to speed things along a little bit.

>

> Drove to the school, parked in front of the handicapped spot because

> someone else was in it, got out and went around to the other side

> because Josh needed help today with his seatbelt. Kayla jumped out and

> after a hug and kiss was on her way, smiling, to her classroom. I

> reached in to undo Josh's seatbelt for him and saw tear stains on his

> cheeks. That makes me feel so sad. I asked him how he was doing and he

> said not good at all. He was sore everywhere! He said he thought he had

> a fever, too. He wanted to go lay down at the nurse's office. I helped

> him out of the car and felt his forehead. Didn't feel too warm to me but

> then again, I didn't want to accept that he could even have a fever

> after doing so well the past month. He lifted up his shorts to show me

> his thigh. Full blown JRA rash was back again! All splotchy and red. I

> lifted his T-shirt up and there it was, covering his chest too.

>

> I said let's just go see your teacher and drop off your backpack. Let's

> at least let her know you're here at school but not feeling so good and

> that you'll be back in class when you're feeling a little better, later.

> Sometimes even when the mornings are really bad, Josh will start

> improving and wind up feeling just fine again, in a couple of hours. We

> walked past the health room and went on to his classroom. The teacher

> immediately knew that he was not well. She said it was amazing how

> things can change so suddenly, just overnight. She has regular RA, so

> she's very understanding. She asked Josh how his joints were feeling and

> he showed us his wrists. They were fine just yesterday but today, he has

> major swelling/developing-nodules again and they are hot to touch. I let

> her know that we'd stop at the nurse's to take Josh's temp, as I broke

> our thermometer here at home and with Josh doing so well, we hadn't yet

> needed to replace it. Well, the nurse took his temp and it kept climbing

> higher and higher till it finally started beeping .... at 104.

>

> So, our plans for the morning changed. I took Josh back home with me,

> stopping first at Long's to buy a new thermometer. He was trying to

> figure out why this happened and said maybe his wrists got swollen

> because he hadn't been at school for almost a month and when he went

> back yesterday he did more writing than he had for a long time. I really

> don't know. Maybe that had something to do with his bent finger and

> swollen wrists but it doesn't explain the high fever or rash. Meanwhile,

> Josh is resting, sleeping on and off, here on the couch. I don't think

> he'll be going back to school today. It's after 11:30 and there isn't

> much improvement yet. Plus, Wednesday is their short day and they get

> out at 1:15pm. So, we'll try again tomorrow (after Dr appt.) or Friday.

> He really wanted to be at school today, as they get their report cards

> and he loves seeing how well he's done. He thinks he made the Honor Roll

> again. If so, that will cheer him up a bit :)

>

> Sorry for such a long story. Some people can be so concise in just a few

> words. I'll have to work harder on that :) But now you've got the full

> story. Josh was doing really, really well. No pain or sore joints for a

> long time, a month ... and now this again! But he'll be okay, I'm sure.

> After taking it easy. I didn't even call his pediatrician, as his

> rheumatologist is coming over tomorrow for the Maui JRA clinic and it's

> probably better that we talk to him about this. Last month he said that

> if Josh stayed stable for the next few weeks we might consider lowering

> the prednisone dose. I hope this doesn't interfere with that. I'll let

> you all know how it goes.

>

> Aloha,

> Georgina

>

> ---------------------------

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Oliver,

Damien is just Adorable!!

Jodi

Tigger wrote:

> From: " Tigger " <oskudder@...>

>

> Georgina,

>

> I am really sorry to hear that Josh is flaring again and I hope he improves

> very soon.

>

> Here is a small photo of Damien from Xmas (he likes to be called Kipper now

> for some reason). I know I shouldn't really post this to the list, but it is

> only 16Kb, and I reckon some of your longer emails must easily take up that

> much space ;-)

>

> Best Wishes,

>

> Oliver

>

> Josh's Update

>

> > From: Georgina <gmckin@...>

> >

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I hope things are still going in the right direction, health-wise, for

> > those whose children are doing well. It's reassuring to hear how others

> > have gone through so much and then had periods of feeling well, at last.

> > I was so overjoyed at how well Josh was doing. This was the best xmas

> > season he's had in 3 years time. The notorious winter-time flare,

> > unrelated to any changes in weather around here, was over more quickly

> > than usual. His visit last month with the rheumatologist went fantastic.

> > All his joints were good. No systemic symptoms. Even the ferritin level

> > came back within the normal range. School started yesterday. He went in

> > looking so healthy and happy ... and had a great day. Was so happy to be

> > back in the old routine and get to hang out with all his friends. even

> > enjoyed doing his homework!

> >

> > Then, this morning, he could barely get down the stairs. Even his long

> > shower didn't help. When he feels like this, we all seem to move a

> > little slower in the morning. Kayla didn't want to be late for school

> > though, on her second day back, so I sort of rushed things along, as

> > gently as I could. Getting dressed, having breakfast, taking meds,

> > fixing the children's hair... and off we went to the car, me rolling

> > Josh's backpack-on-wheels to speed things along a little bit.

> >

> > Drove to the school, parked in front of the handicapped spot because

> > someone else was in it, got out and went around to the other side

> > because Josh needed help today with his seatbelt. Kayla jumped out and

> > after a hug and kiss was on her way, smiling, to her classroom. I

> > reached in to undo Josh's seatbelt for him and saw tear stains on his

> > cheeks. That makes me feel so sad. I asked him how he was doing and he

> > said not good at all. He was sore everywhere! He said he thought he had

> > a fever, too. He wanted to go lay down at the nurse's office. I helped

> > him out of the car and felt his forehead. Didn't feel too warm to me but

> > then again, I didn't want to accept that he could even have a fever

> > after doing so well the past month. He lifted up his shorts to show me

> > his thigh. Full blown JRA rash was back again! All splotchy and red. I

> > lifted his T-shirt up and there it was, covering his chest too.

> >

> > I said let's just go see your teacher and drop off your backpack. Let's

> > at least let her know you're here at school but not feeling so good and

> > that you'll be back in class when you're feeling a little better, later.

> > Sometimes even when the mornings are really bad, Josh will start

> > improving and wind up feeling just fine again, in a couple of hours. We

> > walked past the health room and went on to his classroom. The teacher

> > immediately knew that he was not well. She said it was amazing how

> > things can change so suddenly, just overnight. She has regular RA, so

> > she's very understanding. She asked Josh how his joints were feeling and

> > he showed us his wrists. They were fine just yesterday but today, he has

> > major swelling/developing-nodules again and they are hot to touch. I let

> > her know that we'd stop at the nurse's to take Josh's temp, as I broke

> > our thermometer here at home and with Josh doing so well, we hadn't yet

> > needed to replace it. Well, the nurse took his temp and it kept climbing

> > higher and higher till it finally started beeping .... at 104.

> >

> > So, our plans for the morning changed. I took Josh back home with me,

> > stopping first at Long's to buy a new thermometer. He was trying to

> > figure out why this happened and said maybe his wrists got swollen

> > because he hadn't been at school for almost a month and when he went

> > back yesterday he did more writing than he had for a long time. I really

> > don't know. Maybe that had something to do with his bent finger and

> > swollen wrists but it doesn't explain the high fever or rash. Meanwhile,

> > Josh is resting, sleeping on and off, here on the couch. I don't think

> > he'll be going back to school today. It's after 11:30 and there isn't

> > much improvement yet. Plus, Wednesday is their short day and they get

> > out at 1:15pm. So, we'll try again tomorrow (after Dr appt.) or Friday.

> > He really wanted to be at school today, as they get their report cards

> > and he loves seeing how well he's done. He thinks he made the Honor Roll

> > again. If so, that will cheer him up a bit :)

> >

> > Sorry for such a long story. Some people can be so concise in just a few

> > words. I'll have to work harder on that :) But now you've got the full

> > story. Josh was doing really, really well. No pain or sore joints for a

> > long time, a month ... and now this again! But he'll be okay, I'm sure.

> > After taking it easy. I didn't even call his pediatrician, as his

> > rheumatologist is coming over tomorrow for the Maui JRA clinic and it's

> > probably better that we talk to him about this. Last month he said that

> > if Josh stayed stable for the next few weeks we might consider lowering

> > the prednisone dose. I hope this doesn't interfere with that. I'll let

> > you all know how it goes.

> >

> > Aloha,

> > Georgina

> >

> > ---------------------------

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Hi Everyone,

Thanks so much, for all of your messages. Yesterday was a very strange

day. The best way I can describe it is that it was almost as if Josh had

missed a dose of prednisone, but he hadn't. All of the symptoms just

suddenly appeared, overnight. He was in really bad shape. I was amazed

at how quickly it happened, even the new nodules or severe swelling on

both his wrists. He didn't even start to feel any better till around

noon. Then, slowly but surely, he started to get well again. Even

stranger was that today, when I woke him at 6:15, he got out of bed and

everything was just fine again. (?) I was expecting it to be worse. I

was prepared. But he was feeling great.

He said he was feeling fine. And that he could go to school. No fever.

No rash. He did wear his wrist splints, though. His wrists were sore.

So, I brought the kids in and then went back at 11:15 to pick him up for

his rheumatology appt. The swelling and pain was completely gone from

his wrists! He made me feel them both and the left wrist still had a

tiny little bump on it but the right one was completely fine. Told you

it was strange :)

So, we saw the doctor. I was almost not going to say anything about

yesterday, thinking that it might interfere with our plans. I waited

till after his physical exam was over. Dr. Dave is so easy to talk with

that I wound up telling him everything and he was at a loss to explain

it, too. Maybe stress from going back to school, maybe the wrist stuff

was from over exertion ~ doing a lot of writing after not doing much for

a month, maybe due to a drop in the barometric pressure? We did get rain

last night and this morning. First time in a few weeks. Lots of people

think their arthritis activity is related to the weather. Oh, I don't

know. I'm just so relieved that everything was fine today.

And, we got some good news. Josh's last blood tests came back REALLY

good. Platelet count was in the normal range. White blood cell count was

the lowest ever. Very close to normal range. Hemoglobin level was a

little higher, too. Still somewhat low, but better than before. Oops,

first time ever, I forgot to ask about the SED rate.

But it was really good results, overall. So, beginning tomorrow we're

going down on the prednisone by 2.5mgs, down to 17.5 a day.

Nope, it still isn't time for us to try every other day. Not this month,

anyway. Doctor wants me to fax him the reducing schedule that Rena and

used, to get Elliot to alternate day. And it's something we'll

try soon. Last time we didn't have success but maybe now that things are

getting relatively stable it will work better. I'm happy about the

current reduction, though. It's a start in the right direction.

It's getting late, here. So I better get up to bed. I'll write more

tomorrow.

Aloha,

Georgina

PS ... yesterday, somebody actually stole Josh's handicapped parking

placard from our closed, but not locked, car. I was shocked!

PSS... very good suggestion, Jodi, about the thermometers. Maybe those

are a good investment for those of us with children who have temps a

lot.

Jodi Giffin wrote:

> Hello all,

>

> Sorry to hear about Josh's bad, bad day. I have noticed with Jess, her

> forehead may not seem warm, but she will have a pretty high fever going. I

> think that's one major thing we as parents need to be aware of, always check

> with a thermometer. I didn't think she had one on the 4th when at the

> rheumy's, but sure enough she had a fever!! We have one of those ear

> thermometers. They can be a little pricey, but are so convenient and quick,

> and seem to be more accurate than a regular under the tongue one.

>

> Hope Josh is feeling better and not in a major flare. Keep us updated if

> you can!!

>

> Jodi

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Georgina,

howlong has Josh had jra? We asumme has had the disease

since birth I had a lot of problems with his birth and it was then that the

Arthritis

came out of remmision to attack me.:( It is Strange isn't it how this

illness can

literally knock them on their backs and then they are ok:) I find it very

strange

i hope as well as you and others that someday maybe not in our life time

possibly in theirs that a CURE is found!! HOPE cuz I do. Take care Goergina,

I saw your son's

pic on your web site he's a cutie!:) The weather must be great there in

hawaii??

My oldest wants to go there someday she has 2 more yrs. and then it's college

bound:( I must say I envy her but, her ole mom will surely miss her! once

again

take care:)

Teena

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Hello ,

Glad to have you back with us, and to hear that Leigh-Ann is continuing

to feel pretty good. Thank you for your warm thoughts. I still don't

know what the heck caused that to happen on Wednesday but I'm just very,

very happy that it was a one day thing and not the beginning of a flare.

Very strange, but things are back to normal again ... whatever that is

:)

Aloha,

Georgina

K A Coady wrote:

> Hi Georgina

> I'm finally back myself. My computer died a month ago, just got it finally

> all repaired and up and running today. I had 328 e-mails WOW! But that's

> okay I spent quite a bit of time reading them and deleting the junk.

>

> For the new parent's on the list welcome. To let them know who I am, I

> will briefly tell you that I have a 13 year old daughter who has systemic

> JRA and who was diagnosed at the age of 2.

>

> Georgina, I can fully relate to you and Josh's flare. That happened to us

> many, many times, but hang in there, it will settle again.

>

> To update you all on Leigh-Ann, she is doing really well right now. Her

> arthritis has been very quiet (thank God) for over a year now. I can only

> say that I feel that the cyclosporine has made the difference to her and

> all of us.

>

> She hasn't had a kidney stone attack in a few months either, so hopefully

> that is starting to settle down as well. We have been steroid free for such

> a long time I'm hoping that the stones will be less and less.

>

> Georgina I'm saying a special prayer for you and Josh that his flare is

> quick and will quieten down fast.

>

> Well gotta get back to all the e-mails and it's good to be back with the

> group.

>

> -Coady

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Hi ,

I'm so glad that this list has been helpful for you, in learning more

about n's JRA. I felt the same way when I first discovered the

Still's mailing list. Finally, here was a bunch of people who had

actually heard of the illness, lived with it, took many of the same meds

as my son, and understood what we were going through! It was such a

relief to know that we weren't all alone and to get an idea of how other

people were dealing with related things on a day to day basis. It was a

little bit different though, seeing that most on that list are adult

onset cases. That's what inspired me to put this list together, just

focussing on the JRA children :)

Take care,

Georgina

> From: " WILLIAM PRICE " <william.e.price@...>

> Dear Georgina, I am so sorry to hear about Josh. This disease is so

> sneaky. When n feels good I am on top of the world. Then it just

> seems to crash in when she has a bad day, and as you know we never know when

> they are coming. It gets so depressing to see these kids suffer, and no one

> can seem to help. No one knows why these kids have their flares.

> n is in her second week of school and so far so good. Her hands are

> getting more swollen, but they are just stiff, not sore. She gets the rash

> everyday still, but we have been fever free for one month. I really hate

> this disease. When our children are doing well , it is even hard to believe

> that they are sick. But soon enough they flare, and we are brought back to

> reality.

> Most everything I know about this disease I have learned through you and

> your sight. You are doing a great service for people . I can't thank you

> enough. It seems like I know more than the doctors now. We will keep Josh

> in our prayers. in Portland

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Hi Oliver,

Well, as you've probably read already, it wasn't a full flare ~ just a

one day setback type thing. No idea really why it happened. About the

photo, I have no problems with that sort of posting here. I know plenty

other lists frown about jpgs (I really don't know why, especially when

they are as small as yours) but I think it was wonderful to send it to

all of us. I do know that people here who are subcribed in the digest

form instead of individual emails aren't able to see attachments. So, in

time, either you or I should probably post that newest photo to the

onelist jra shared files area, with the collection of other photos of

children from our list. Which, by the way, was a wonderful idea. Credit

for that goes to you Oliver!

What a beautiful and handsome little child Damien is! He already looks

so much more grown up now :) I wonder where he got the idea about being

called Kipper? That's a cute nickname!

Aloha,

Georgina .... trying hard to be brief and to the point!!!!!

> From: " Tigger " <oskudder@...>

>

> Georgina,

>

> I am really sorry to hear that Josh is flaring again and I hope he improves

> very soon.

>

> Here is a small photo of Damien from Xmas (he likes to be called Kipper now

> for some reason). I know I shouldn't really post this to the list, but it is

> only 16Kb, and I reckon some of your longer emails must easily take up that

> much space ;-)

>

> Best Wishes,

>

> Oliver

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Name: damdekipper.jpg

> damdekipper.jpg Type: JPEG Image (image/jpeg)

> Encoding: base64

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Hello Teena,

My son takes MTX and I think that's only one of the meds for JRA where

possible side effects are noted that it can cause sensitivity to light.

Josh has brown eyes though and

it has never been a problem for him. The only time he's bothered is when

he sees the eye doctor and has his pupils dilated during exam. Then he's

very sensitive for several hours. If a child's eyes are lighter in

color, like blue or hazel, I think they tend to be more sensitive.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

~Georgina

The7thJourney@... wrote:

> Cheri,

> My heart goes out to you I hope Tristin is doing better? I have

> home

> again because he woke up felling bad and has another flare. Does anyone out

> there

> whos child is sick with jra also notice that their childs eyes are very

> sensitive to

> sunlight of flouresent light?? Take care all.

> Teena

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Sorry, but how do i get off the list for all these e-mail's? I had over

200 messages in 3 days, and I can't possible deal with it. I registered

for info, but somehow got on an e-mail chain list.My middle daughter has

been told she doesn't have jra, but fibromyalgia.

Thankyou,

Overin

koverin@...

On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:22:08 EST The7thJourney@... writes:

>From: The7thJourney@...

>

>Cheri,

> My heart goes out to you I hope Tristin is doing better? I

>have

> home

>again because he woke up felling bad and has another flare. Does

>anyone out

>there

>whos child is sick with jra also notice that their childs eyes are

>very

>sensitive to

>sunlight of flouresent light?? Take care all.

>Teena

>

>---------------------------

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In a message dated 1/19/00 12:20:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, gmckin@...

writes:

<< I've heard a lot of adult women with Still's

(systemic JRA) say that when they are pregnant or on the pill, their

symptoms disappear or improve a lot. >>

I've never noticed the pill helping my systemic JRA symptoms. It does seem

to counter some of the side-effects of the prednisone, such as the excessive

hair growth. When I was on the pill I could shave my legs and have icky

stubble after a few hours instead of 30 minutes. <g>

cheers

Jenni

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Hi Teena,

In May, it will be 5 years Josh has had systemic JRA. Before then, he

was a very healthy child, with no medical problems whatsoever. He only

had infrequent regular colds and then he got the chicken pox, shortly

becoming very ill. I've heard a lot of adult women with Still's

(systemic JRA) say that when they are pregnant or on the pill, their

symptoms disappear or improve a lot. Some kind of hormonal connection.

Plus, I guess the physical stress of labor might be enough to set off

something like this, that seems to be able to be affected even by lots

lower levels of stress. It's a very interesting illness. Still lots to

learn about it, that's for sure. One day I hope it can be figured out.

Take care,

Georgina

The7thJourney@... wrote:

> Georgina,

> howlong has Josh had jra? We asumme has had the disease

> since birth I had a lot of problems with his birth and it was then that the

> Arthritis

> came out of remmision to attack me.:( It is Strange isn't it how this

> illness can

> literally knock them on their backs and then they are ok:) I find it very

> strange

> i hope as well as you and others that someday maybe not in our life time

> possibly in theirs that a CURE is found!! HOPE cuz I do. Take care Goergina,

> I saw your son's

> pic on your web site he's a cutie!:) The weather must be great there in

> hawaii??

> My oldest wants to go there someday she has 2 more yrs. and then it's college

> bound:( I must say I envy her but, her ole mom will surely miss her! once

> again

> take care:)

> Teena

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Thanks, : )

Dear Georgina,Oh my! What a time you all had! I'm glad nothing serious happened whileyou were in the building! I hope Josh gets to feeling better soon. Iknow how frustrating it gets with some drs. (I'm dealing with one nowwith my other daughter 's asthma.) Will keep Josh in our prayers. and Kate--7 severe poly and AVN

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