Test results

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Hi,

Looks like you should deal with adrenal issues before adding more thyroid

meds.

If doc won't lookat T3 then can he refer you or would you see Dr. P?

Subject: Re: Test Results

Hi Sheila/, yes I thought my FT3 looks lower than its ever

been.

GP will not give T3 - not happy about giving the eltroxin. So I am

on my own when it come to medication.

I did put the ref. ranges for my cortisol and DHEA but did not show

clearly so here they are:-

Cortisol

8.am 16.9 range 12.0 - 33.0

12 noon 9.0 10.0 - 28.0

4pm 5.2 6.0 - 11.8

midnite 3.3 1.0 - 5.0

DHEA 2.1 6.0 - 14.6

2.3 4.0 - 8.0

1.8 3.0 - 5.0

2.0 2.0 - 4.0

Sheila, if I was to add T3 or armour would I still need to reduce

the 100 of eltroxin that I take.

I have taken n.adrenal X before but felt even more anxious when

taking it - reached up to 4 tabs per day.

, I did use progesterone for a while but it went sky high to

stopped using it.

Thanks for any advice.

-- In thyroid treatment , " sheilaturner "

<sheilaturner@...> wrote:

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> HI Naomi

>

> Your FT3 is very low and you might not be converting the inactive

hormone T4 into the active hormone T3. I would ask your GP if he

will let you have a trial of synthetic T3 added to your Armour, and

if he agrees, you would have to drop your thyroxine down to say 50

mcgs. There is no point in continuing to take thyroxine if it is not

converting. Your GP might tell you that s/he won't prescribe T3 and

you would have to see an endocrinologist to enable them to do this,

seems they are becoming as paranoid about T3 as they are about

Armour.

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> Alternatively, and much, much better would be for you to change

over to Armour Thyroid.

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> We need the reference range for your cortisol reading, but

basically your cortisol should be at the highest in the morning and

at its lowest at midnight and your DHEA is the opposite - lowest in

the morning when you wake and highest at midnight.

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> Luv - Sheila

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> Hello All - have not posted in a while ( but read most days)

> I have just had my blood and saliva test results back, I feel

okish

> but have quite a bit of anxiety at time, early in the

> morning mostly and while driving. I still have some aches and

pains

> and hair loss.

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> I am on 100mc eltroxin - oestrogen only patch.

>

> Thyroid. Total T4 103 range 59 - 154 (never had this

> one done before so don't know what it means)

> TSH 0.43 0.27 - 4.20

> FT4 18.1 12.0 - 22.0

> FT3 4.4 4.0 - 6.8

>

> Thyroid antibodies

> thyroglobulin antibody <0.9 0-4.9 Negative

> peroxidase antibody 0.5 <9 Negative

>

> Salivary Oestradiol 6.6 follicular phase 3.0 - 35.0

> luteal 6.0 - 30.0

> ost meno <6.0

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> Progesterone 202 follicular 8.0 - 300

> luteal 300 - 1900

> post meno <150.0

>

> Testosterone 216 35 - 350

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> Cortisol 8am 12noon 4.00pm Midnight

> Range 12.0-33.0 10.0-28.0 6.0-11.8 1.0-5.0

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> Me 16.9 9.0 5.2 3.3

> DHEA 2.1 2.3 1.8 2.0

> Range 6.0-14.6 4.0-8.0 3.0-5.0 2.0-4.0

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> Can any one tell how these look to them.

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> Thanks.

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HI Naomi,

Have you asked yourGP to refer you to a specialist in thyroid disease because of your low T3. If he refuses to allow you to get a second opinion, he needs to be asked to give you an answer in writing, as to why not. He is not a specialist in anything.

Your DHEA is what we call flat lining, isn't doing anything much throughout the day. You do appear to need some DHEA. If you start on Armour, this has all the hormones in it and you would not, therefore, need to take your thyroxine. I simply stopped taking 125 mcgs olne day and started half a grain of Armour the next day and gradually increased the Armour until I got rid of my symptoms. If you stay on Eltroxin and add some T3, the answer is yes, you do need to drop the dosage by quite a lot - or your body wouldn't be able to cope with too much T3.

See if you can see a specialist who will no doubt recommend the addition of T3 to your thyroxine.

Luv - Sheila

Hi Sheila/, yes I thought my FT3 looks lower than its ever been. GP will not give T3 - not happy about giving the eltroxin. So I am on my own when it come to medication. I did put the ref. ranges for my cortisol and DHEA but did not show clearly so here they are:-Cortisol8.am 16.9 range 12.0 - 33.012 noon 9.0 10.0 - 28.04pm 5.2 6.0 - 11.8midnite 3.3 1.0 - 5.0DHEA 2.1 6.0 - 14.6 2.3 4.0 - 8.01.8 3.0 - 5.02.0 2.0 - 4.0Sheila, if I was to add T3 or armour would I still need to reduce the 100 of eltroxin that I take.I have taken n.adrenal X before but felt even more anxious when taking it - reached up to 4 tabs per day., I did use progesterone for a while but it went sky high to stopped using it.Thanks for any advice. -- In thyroid treatment , "sheilaturner" <sheilaturner@...> wrote:>> HI Naomi>

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Hi Jacqui

This is the problem when once again, we find yet another GP who will only go by blood results and not by symptoms, signs and medical history. Your antibodies are not considered high at the moment, if you have antibodies greater than 35, you are considered to be suffering with Hashimoto's disease, but this is not an indication that you are hypothyroid although it is an indication that one day, you will become hypothyroid. This is because antibodies see your thyroid tissue as the enemy and set about its destruction, so your thyroid will eventually be unable to put out the thyroid hormone your body needs.

Ask your GP for a referral to an endocrinologist - he should not be denying you this just because your blood results are within range. Tell him, if he does deny you a referral that you want to be thoroughly examined, your signs and symptoms to be taken into account, your past medical history to be taken into account, your family history to be looked into in case others have autoimmune problems. Your GP is NOT a thyroid specialist.

Luv - Sheila

Hi I have just got my test results back, some of which I don't have reference ranges for and Dr wouldn't give over the phone so I will have to write for them!!TSH 0.05 (range usually 0.5 to 3.5)Free T4 13.3Free T3 5.5Antibodies 103Apparantly T4 and T3 are in the normal range, but he didn't say what that was when I asked. He said that the TSH is very low but no big deal but is concerned about the antibodies and wants to retest in a couple of months.Anybody have any idea what the above means? I am guessing I am converting alright but the antibodies seem a bit high. I was hoping I could find something to explain this bone crushing weariness.Luv Jacqui

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Hi Sheila

I currently take 200ug of Thyroxine and this was my first blood test

after a raise from 150ug. I currently take sublingal Vit B complex and

4g Vit C in the mornings with breakfast, usually about 2 hours after

the thyroxine (vit C is bufferred and to be taken with food).

Does this make a difference to the antibodies or does it just mean my

thyroid is just about to give up the ghost in the not to distant future.

luv

Jacqui

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I am not sure that there is anything that makes a difference to your antibodies, they grow in number and do the job they are supposed to. I have antibodies and I have no thyroid left, and I keep going on thyroid hormone replacement - in my case 3 grains Armour and 25 mcgs thyroxine.

Luv - Sheila

Hi SheilaI currently take 200ug of Thyroxine and this was my first blood test after a raise from 150ug. I currently take sublingal Vit B complex and 4g Vit C in the mornings with breakfast, usually about 2 hours after the thyroxine (vit C is bufferred and to be taken with food). Does this make a difference to the antibodies or does it just mean my thyroid is just about to give up the ghost in the not to distant future.luvJacqui

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Hi Jacqui, your antibodies tell me that you have hashimoto`s disease. this is autoimmune and you will have them attacking the thyroid, which is why you don`tfeel well sometimes. anything over 10 is positive,. doctors are supposed to treatyou when they reach 75. so tell your doctor this and ask for treatment to suppressthem. Have you seen an endocrinologist ? if not ask to see one, as doctors will not treat you without an endo`s letter to say you need treatment. if you have slower onset of this disease the TSH test will not rise very quick so this will be in the refference range not normal range as the doctor is wrong in this.we are all in this range , but still have all the symptoms. so not a good test to go by.hope this helps you.

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Hi,

T4 is low within the range, if the usual range applies of 11-24

apparently there is 27 times the amount of hormones available from one end

of the range to the other ( no, I don't understand the math- something to do

with logs)

T3 looks high at 5.5 if the range of 22.8 to 5.4 applies.

So this would look like hyper rather than hypo. I know hypers do get very

tired, but as I have no experience of this I can't help further.

Yes, antibodies are high- cut of point is usually around 50 so there looks

like trouble ahead. So it looks like you thyroid is under attack but can

still do something at the moment- the attacks can come periodically so do

you get times when you feel better than others?

Subject: Test Results

Hi

I have just got my test results back, some of which I don't have

reference ranges for and Dr wouldn't give over the phone so I will

have to write for them!!

TSH 0.05 (range usually 0.5 to 3.5)

Free T4 13.3

Free T3 5.5

Antibodies 103

Apparantly T4 and T3 are in the normal range, but he didn't say what

that was when I asked. He said that the TSH is very low but no big

deal but is concerned about the antibodies and wants to retest in a

couple of months.

Anybody have any idea what the above means? I am guessing I am

converting alright but the antibodies seem a bit high. I was hoping

I could find something to explain this bone crushing weariness.

Luv

Jacqui

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Hi

It could be that I am moving towards slightly hyper. My meds have been

all over the place over the last 3 months. I started at 150 then upped

to 200 and had 3 weeks at 250 (cold climate) before coming back down to

200. Oh and had 3 different brands during that time as well!

Apart from the exhaustion I don't think I have any other signs of being

a bit hyper, unless fluid retention counts! I think I shall get these

results in writing, get the next test in May and ask for a referral to

an Endo as I have never seen one in the 6 years since diagnosis.

Jacqui x

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Hi , Current is simply Voltage/Resistance. So, depending on your resistance you will need a different voltage to get your 1mA. Also note, that over time (the first minute), the resistance across your wrist will decrease. Just keep your DMM in line and turn down the volume to keep it under 1mA.

BradOn Tue, May 27, 2008 at 2:12 AM, shurikvt <shurikvt@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I just finished building 2 different circuits: the improved one posted

here and the regular one posted on this site

http://www.sharinghealth.com/beckprotocol/buildyourown.html

For the improved circuit, a multimeter placed at the electrodes showed

a voltage variation from -20V to +20 V, while the potentiometer varied

the current from 0.2 to 26 mA.

For the regular circuit I got a maximum of 6V with a current of 0.2

mA. Ideally the current should be no more that 1 mA. What is the ideal

range of voltage and current?

Thanks,

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Brad,

Thanks for replying. Looks like it's just the current I need to be

looking at. Also what is the purpose of the 3rd connection to the

phone jack (zener diodes)? And what is a good way to check that I am

getting the correct frequency?

Thanks,

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The third connection simply dis-engages the LEDs when the probe cord

is plugged into the unit to conserve battery power.

How do you know the frequency is correct? Look at the flashing LEDs.

They should flash 4 times per second. It is easy to see this.

Also, when testing the output on a multi-meter, you have to realize

that because of the low frequency (4Hz) of the output, the meter will

most likely bounce around all over the place and you will not be able

to get a reliable reading. If the LEDs are flashing then 99% your

unit is performing perfectly. The circuit is very self-diagnosing.

Do you feel the pulsing on the wrist? Then, probably all is perfect!

Hope this helps,

Russ :>)

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posted

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> > > http://www.sharinghealth.com/beckprotocol/buildyourown.html

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showed

> > > a voltage variation from -20V to +20 V, while the potentiometer

varied

> > > the current from 0.2 to 26 mA.

> > > For the regular circuit I got a maximum of 6V with a current of

0.2

> > > mA. Ideally the current should be no more that 1 mA. What is

the ideal

> > > range of voltage and current?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Hi

These are my results from the NPTech labs today, can anyone advice what I should do to correct this and should I see my doctor?

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Please find attached your Adrenal Stress Profile results.

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Hi

Did you send your results as an attachment - it is best to type them out

if possible with the reference ranges for each test.

Luv - Sheila

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Hi again ,

Your cortisol results weren't too different to mine all in all. Did

you read my earlier post about nutri adrenal extra? For the last two-

three days I have started to feel different.

I don't understand the whole dhea thing at all, but other

knowledgeable folk will I'm sure and let you know. My dhea were above

the reference range at times?

At least you're starting to get some answers to your questions. I'm

sure you'll get some great advice here.

Good luck,

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The situation you describe to is exactly what happened to me Sheila. My GP tested blood early in the day for cortisol levels and results returned judged as 'normal for the time of day'. However, as we have discussed a couple of weeks back, the salivary test revealed a completely different picture. M

[Guest guest]

Well ,

Based on early advice and reading from tpa, when I found the nerve to

go back and begin to challenge my thyroid test levels I did tell GP

I'd been reading up on adrenal function/connection to the symptoms

and at that time asked if salivary testing was available on the nhs.

It was then she ran an extra blood test for cortisol, which came

back 'normal for the time of day'!(first thing when the blood was

taken)

Clearly not it seems, based on the nptech feedback, where I was out

of range most of the day, particularly first thing in the morning.

I did exactly as Sheila advised with the nutri adrenal extra, and am

just finishing the third day in a row (after 10 days of supplements)

where I am beginning to definitely feel different, not great, but

improved.

From all the reading and advice over the last few weeks it does

cetainly seem that adrenal function has to be addressed to achieve

success with thyroid medication.

I haven't bothered to discuss adrenal issues with the GP again, as

lovely as she is, she doesn't think outside the nhs box on thyroid or

adrenal function.

She was a little taken aback when I named the endo I'd like to be

referred to, based on tpa listings. All the others I'd researched in

my area were diabetes specialists, not much use to a case like mine

with a long grey thyroid history, which has worsened this year. But,

in all fairness to her, she went along with it.

Good luck, hope you feel better soon,

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hi

I'm pleased that you may have caught the culprit to your poor response

to thyroxine. I have been taking 4 NAE with T4 and T3 since Feb it is

quite safe to take them together. However I was advised to stop the

thyroxine for at least 5 days and lomger if I could manage it to give

the adrenals less to deal with when starting the NAE. I stopped for 6

days coinciding with a holiday form work and to be honest I didnt

really feel any different in such a short space of time. Good luck

with it.

Love Lizzie

> Hi Shelia

> Thanks again for your comments, can you please reassure me that

taking NAE will not affect my thyroxine and the two are ok to take

together?

> I have just ordered some from the website you gave me but am always

apprehensive when taking something new!

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range. Your cortisol should be high in the range first thing in the

morning and should be at its highest throughout the whole of the day

at this time.

> 12 noon 9.4 (Ref 10.0-28.0) - Again too low and this is below the

reference range.

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time, but 3.9 is far too low again.

> Midnight 6.8 ( Ref 1.0-5.0) - ...and THIS reading is too high.

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range.

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starting to rise a bit at this hour.

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In a message dated 9/6/2008 11:17:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, marlenaappletree@... writes:

>>Still I would make sure you are taking at least 1/2 tsp of good salt dissolved in water/day >>(and if you can take more all the better, or potassium chloride works too) to keep pushing >>that bromide out.

Will sea salt still push bromide out if you are not taking iodine?

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No. I think the way it works is that iodine displaces the

bromine and prevents bromine from binding to the iodine receptors if

there is enough iodine present. Sodium in needed to get the iodine

into the cells. Chloride helps take the bromide out through the kidneys.

Sea salt will help reduce your blood pressure though.

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Hi Alison, No...Dr's script is not needed. Just call and order it.

Toll Free 877 238-1779. They analyze the urine the day they receive

it and ship the results to you that day or the next day. They are in

Colorado. The 24 hour iodine loading test is $70 plus to add the

extra Bromide Test is another $35...$105 total if you want both. If

you haven't started taking iodine as yet there is a what they call

a " Urine Iodine Spot Test Kit " which according to Hakala Research is

for an evaluation for pre-supplementation status, which is $95 plus

the Bromide Test of $35 if you want it. Here is their home page and a

link for a listing of their Kits & costs.

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Thanks Marlena for the response.

Yes, I was the one with the loose stools and terrible sweating. The

excessive sweating started when I upped to 3 iodoral (37 1/2) some

months ago. I'll drop down to 25mg iodoral and see how that goes. I

do use a lot of sea salt..haven't been disloving it in water though

with probably not the same results? I will up my vitamin C. I don't

know where the bromide is coming from. I never drink sodas, etc. nor

eat bread and pastries as I have celiac disease. Where else does one

get bromide? When should I retest again? My two tests (blood & urine)

sure showed what a waste blood iodine testing is. Again thanks so

much for your reply. Let us know how your test results come out!

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> > w/reference Range of 40-92, I was wondering what kind of result I

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is

> > from Hakala Research.

> > Total Iodine Excreted 44.8mg (from 50mg loading dose)

> > % Iodine Excreted 89.6%

> > Bromide Concentration 8.43mg

> > Total Bromide excreted 20.7mg (upper normal value 10mg)

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about 9

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When

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this.

> > Also can someone explain to me the bromide results?

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I don't think so but I'm not sure. What I have come to understand is that the iodine knocks the bromide off the iodine receptors in the body (which unfortunately lodges where iodine should be!) and the chloride (in 'salt' or sodium chloride [Celtic or the Original Himalayan are the best because they are extremely nutritious in all ways and non-toxic!] and potassium chloride) binds with the now free floating bromide and carries it out of the body. Something like that ... If anyone else has a more accurate description please say so!Marlena> > Will sea salt still push bromide out if you are not taking iodine? > Thanks.> BarbF>

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Some reflections about loading tests: Dr Flechas is a bit more expensive for testing but you get a free consultation with each test, and I have found them invaluable. I did a spot test with my first loading test, even after I began iodine supplementation and I'm very glad I did because it helped Dr. Flechas to see that I was very deficient even though my first loading results came back around 70%. My second loading results 3 months later, on 50mg of iodine/day were only around 60%! He explained I had a common defect in iodine deficient states (and the owner of this site helped me to further understand this) - where because one has been deficient for awhile, many of the receptors are shutdown and you excrete iodine even though you need it. After taking high doses for awhile the iodine receptors begin to wake up again and you excrete less, until you start getting sufficient. Now after several more months I got up to around 80% excretion (90% is the goal). Marlena>> Hi Alison, No...Dr's script is not needed. Just call and order it. > Toll Free 877 238-1779. They analyze the urine the day they receive > it and ship the results to you that day or the next day. They are in > Colorado. The 24 hour iodine loading test is $70 plus to add the > extra Bromide Test is another $35...$105 total if you want both. If > you haven't started taking iodine as yet there is a what they call > a "Urine Iodine Spot Test Kit" which according to Hakala Research is > for an evaluation for pre-supplementation status, which is $95 plus > the Bromide Test of $35 if you want it. Here is their home page and a > link for a listing of their Kits & costs.> > http://hakalalabs.com/> http://hakalalabs.com/services> > V> >

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I would retest after 3-6 months. There is a lot of helpful info at breastcancerchoices.org. They explain how to do proper salt loading to get bromide out. Below I quoted some sources of bromide. There is more at: http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/bromidedominancetheory.htmlBromide is an insidious, additive used in many common products, and as a pesticide.  Because of the sheer amount of bromide-supplemented products,  exposure to this man-made additive has caused a depletion of iodine in human populations.  Studies in lab animals provide alarming evidence that even small amounts of bromide exposure can be toxic. (1)What products contain bromide?Currently, bromide is found in pesticides (methyl bromide),  some bread products (potassium bromate), brominated vegetable oil that may be added to citrus-flavored drinks, hot tub cleansers, certain asthma inhalers and prescription drugs, plastic products, some personal care products, some  fabric dyes, and as a fire retardant in mattresses, carpeting, etc.  Marlena>> Thanks Marlena for the response.> Yes, I was the one with the loose stools and terrible sweating. The > excessive sweating started when I upped to 3 iodoral (37 1/2) some > months ago. I'll drop down to 25mg iodoral and see how that goes. I > do use a lot of sea salt..haven't been disloving it in water though > with probably not the same results? I will up my vitamin C. I don't > know where the bromide is coming from. I never drink sodas, etc. nor > eat bread and pastries as I have celiac disease. Where else does one > get bromide? When should I retest again? My two tests (blood & urine) > sure showed what a waste blood iodine testing is. Again thanks so > much for your reply. Let us know how your test results come out!  > V> 

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In other words if I am excreting 89.6% iodine, how do I know if I

have reached a good saturation level or if receptors are just shut

down and I am just excreting it? If my receptors are shut down, then

I would think I would not decrease iodine dosage, but if saturation

level is really reached I would decrease dosage somewhat. I hope I am

being clear on this questiion. LOL If I had known about the spot test

I would have done that several months ago before starting iodine. I

had been on 3 Iodoral (37 1/2mg) for several months when I just took

this iodine loading test with 89.6% iodine excreted. Thanks. V

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> Some reflections about loading tests: Dr Flechas is a bit more

> expensive for testing but you get a free consultation with each

test,

> and I have found them invaluable. I did a spot test with my first

> loading test, even after I began iodine supplementation and I'm very

> glad I did because it helped Dr. Flechas to see that I was very

> deficient even though my first loading results came back around

70%. My

> second loading results 3 months later, on 50mg of iodine/day were

only

> around 60%! He explained I had a common defect in iodine deficient

> states (and the owner of this site helped me to further

> understand this) - where because one has been deficient for awhile,

many

> of the receptors are shutdown and you excrete iodine even though you

> need it. After taking high doses for awhile the iodine receptors

begin

> to wake up again and you excrete less, until you start getting

> sufficient. Now after several more months I got up to around 80%

> excretion (90% is the goal). 

> Marlena

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