Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 I suspect your number of 95% of people who have no complaints taking one pill a day is quite high. Just in ONE of my internet groups for thyroid there are over 5,000 people who were NOT doing well on T4only meds and are switching over to a combination BECAUSE they had so many complaints with the T4 only meds. This is from people all over the world, India, Italy, Australia to name just a few and just one group. It would be very interesting to get an actual number of people who did not do well on T4 only and what they changed to and how much better they are doing.  For myself, I take T3 only because of a reverse T3 issue. My doctor and I decided to stay on T3 only was the best route for me. For one thing, she says that T4 is just a storage hormone anyway. Which I have heard before she mentioned it. I have not felt this good in over 20yrs of being on synthroid. I tried Armour for awhile until the Rt3 became a problem. I have lost over 20#, my cholesterol went from 237 to 177, I have more energy, I am sleeping SO much better. Concentration level is amazing, I did not realize how bad that got until I saw improvement. My eyebrows and eyelashes have grown back AFTER 20YRs. Teeth marks on the sides of my tongue are gone. These are just a few of the pluses for me taking something other than a T4med only. Venizia From: <res075oh@...> Subject: Re: Functioning hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 12:34 PM  Most people take one simple pill each day and seem to have no complaints whatsoever [probably about 95%]. Among those who do not seem to do well with that treatment brain fog seems to be very high on the list of complaints. On this and similar lists the proportion of members with less than stellar results from standard treatment are _much_ higher; so are the reports of brain fog and other symptoms. Regards, .. .. > > Posted by: " Carol " nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net > <mailto:nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net?Subject=%20Re% 3A%20Functioning > > venizia1948 <http://profiles. / venizia1948> > > > Sat Feb 6, 2010 5:53 am (PST) > > > > I have to disagree with on the brain fog. It is one of the > biggest complaints of people with hypothyroid. Also I agree with Trish > on B12, actually all the B vitamins are very important and so is > magnesium. You should also make sure your potassium and sodium levels > are balanced if you are experiencing puffiness, water retention. > > Venizia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Came across this article. The thinking in medicine seems to be changing. http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/toftchange.htm <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: <res075oh@...> Subject: Re: Functioning hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 10:34 AM Most people take one simple pill each day and seem to have no complaints whatsoever [probably about 95%]. Among those who do not seem to do well with that treatment brain fog seems to be very high on the list of complaints. On this and similar lists the proportion of members with less than stellar results from standard treatment are _much_ higher; so are the reports of brain fog and other symptoms. Regards, .. .. > > Posted by: " Carol " nelsonck@... > <mailto:nelsonck@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Functioning> > venizia1948 <venizia1948> > > > Sat Feb 6, 2010 5:53 am (PST) > > > > I have to disagree with on the brain fog. It is one of the > biggest complaints of people with hypothyroid. Also I agree with Trish > on B12, actually all the B vitamins are very important and so is > magnesium. You should also make sure your potassium and sodium levels > are balanced if you are experiencing puffiness, water retention. > > Venizia ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Venezia, I'm on T3 only now too. I'm having difficulties because the doctor is concerned about keeping me on it, and increasing my dose as I need it. Do you know of any doctors that are all right with T3 only medication in the Seattle East Side area? <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: <res075oh@...> Subject: Re: Functioning hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 12:34 PM Most people take one simple pill each day and seem to have no complaints whatsoever [probably about 95%]. Among those who do not seem to do well with that treatment brain fog seems to be very high on the list of complaints. On this and similar lists the proportion of members with less than stellar results from standard treatment are _much_ higher; so are the reports of brain fog and other symptoms. Regards, .. .. > > Posted by: " Carol " nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net > <mailto:nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net?Subject=%20Re% 3A%20Functioning > > venizia1948 <http://profiles. / venizia1948> > > > Sat Feb 6, 2010 5:53 am (PST) > > > > I have to disagree with on the brain fog. It is one of the > biggest complaints of people with hypothyroid. Also I agree with Trish > on B12, actually all the B vitamins are very important and so is > magnesium. You should also make sure your potassium and sodium levels > are balanced if you are experiencing puffiness, water retention. > > Venizia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 I will try and find out for you Roni. Venizia From: <res075ohverizon (DOT) net> Subject: Re: Functioning hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 12:34 PM              Most people take one simple pill each day and seem to have no complaints whatsoever [probably about 95%]. Among those who do not seem to do well with that treatment brain fog seems to be very high on the list of complaints. On this and similar lists the proportion of members with less than stellar results from standard treatment are _much_ higher; so are the reports of brain fog and other symptoms. Regards, .. .. > >     Posted by: " Carol " nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net >     <mailto:nelsonck@ sbcglobal. net?Subject= %20Re% 3A%20Functioning > >     venizia1948 <http://profiles. / venizia1948> > > >      Sat Feb 6, 2010 5:53 am (PST) > > > > I have to disagree with on the brain fog. It is one of the > biggest complaints of people with hypothyroid. Also I agree with Trish > on B12, actually all the B vitamins are very important and so is > magnesium. You should also make sure your potassium and sodium levels > are balanced if you are experiencing puffiness, water retention. > > Venizia            Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Roni, I would print this out and give it to your doctor. I am waiting for an answer from the Rt3 group about a doctor in your area. Will let you know as soon as I hear something. Venizia From: <res075ohverizon (DOT) net> Subject: Re: Functioning hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 10:34 AM Most people take one simple pill each day and seem to have no complaints whatsoever [probably about 95%]. Among those who do not seem to do well with that treatment brain fog seems to be very high on the list of complaints. On this and similar lists the proportion of members with less than stellar results from standard treatment are _much_ higher; so are the reports of brain fog and other symptoms. Regards, .. .. > >     Posted by: " Carol " nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net >     <mailto:nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net?Subject=%20Re% 3A%20Functioning > >     venizia1948 <http://profiles. / venizia1948> > > >      Sat Feb 6, 2010 5:53 am (PST) > > > > I have to disagree with on the brain fog. It is one of the > biggest complaints of people with hypothyroid. Also I agree with Trish > on B12, actually all the B vitamins are very important and so is > magnesium. You should also make sure your potassium and sodium levels > are balanced if you are experiencing puffiness, water retention. > > Venizia ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Venizia, You wrote to : > > > I suspect your number of 95% of people who have no complaints taking one > pill a day is quite high.... Again, we have checked this several different ways. It was much easier when Armour was essentially the only supplier. Perhaps that will be true again with the new FDA requirements. In other countries, the percentage of people on T4 only is higher than 95%, although that is no guarantee that they are all happy with it. Although 5,000 on a discussion list may seem high, it is actually small compared to the 2nd or 3rd most prescribed medication. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 That may be true, I not sure. I do believe through these groups people are finding out that, yes, they are not alone in feeling their med is not working. It is not just in there head. I do believe the word is getting out that there is something better out there. The problem is getting the doctors to look outside the box. I do not know where I would be if I hadn't fired the 8 doctors that kept me sick. I listened to what I was hearing and reading on the Natural thyroid groups and the Reverse T3 group....they think outside the box....I am SOOO much better because of it. Venizia From: Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> Subject: Re: Re: Functioning hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 3:56 PM  Venizia, You wrote to : > > > I suspect your number of 95% of people who have no complaints taking one > pill a day is quite high.... Again, we have checked this several different ways. It was much easier when Armour was essentially the only supplier. Perhaps that will be true again with the new FDA requirements. In other countries, the percentage of people on T4 only is higher than 95%, although that is no guarantee that they are all happy with it. Although 5,000 on a discussion list may seem high, it is actually small compared to the 2nd or 3rd most prescribed medication. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Thank you. I actually should have said in Kirkland, Bellevue or Redmond. Seattle proper is crazy traffic, lots of construction and I am not comfortable going there myself. <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: <res075ohverizon (DOT) net> Subject: Re: Functioning hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 12:34 PM Most people take one simple pill each day and seem to have no complaints whatsoever [probably about 95%]. Among those who do not seem to do well with that treatment brain fog seems to be very high on the list of complaints. On this and similar lists the proportion of members with less than stellar results from standard treatment are _much_ higher; so are the reports of brain fog and other symptoms. Regards, .. .. > > Posted by: " Carol " nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net > <mailto:nelsonck@ sbcglobal. net?Subject= %20Re% 3A%20Functioning > > venizia1948 <http://profiles. / venizia1948> > > > Sat Feb 6, 2010 5:53 am (PST) > > > > I have to disagree with on the brain fog. It is one of the > biggest complaints of people with hypothyroid. Also I agree with Trish > on B12, actually all the B vitamins are very important and so is > magnesium. You should also make sure your potassium and sodium levels > are balanced if you are experiencing puffiness, water retention. > > Venizia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 , I think there are millions, if not billions of people that are misdiagnosed as having some sort of mental illness, rather than assessing their thyroid and adrenal health. The medical profession and the drug companies make billions on antidepressants, pain meds etc., and the doctors all seem to try to give them to you, no matter what your symptoms are. I have refused those things from every doctor I've been to, and won't take them, except that I do have take a valium along with Flecainide when I get an atrial fibrillation attack. I don't even like to do that, but it helps to calm the heartbeat down. <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: <res075oh@...> Subject: Re: Functioning hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 4:06 PM It's great to hear you're improving. It's so discouraging when people have such a hard time getting relief. I'm glad you kept plugging away until you got help. 5000 people on a list isn't so many when you consider there's about 6.8 billion people on earth. And if you believe some of the lists then perhaps a couple billion of them have some form of hypothyroidism [not a figure I believe, incidentally]. For every person on that list there are over a million NOT on it. Even if you add up all the lists it's no where near a reasonable fraction of one percent. One indication of how few people have problems is the likelihood that if you do happen to be one of those who have problems with T4 only treatment your doctor may have never heard of such a thing. At least if we can believe the reports we so often read. But you're right; I have no idea of how accurate the number is. Best, .. .. > > Posted by: " Carol " nelsonck@... > <mailto:nelsonck@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Functioning> > venizia1948 <venizia1948> > > > Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:19 am (PST) > > > > I suspect your number of 95% of people who have no complaints taking > one pill a day is quite high. Just in ONE of my internet groups for > thyroid there are over 5,000 people who were NOT doing well on T4only > meds and are switching over to a combination BECAUSE they had so many > complaints with the T4 only meds. This is from people all over the > world, India, Italy, Australia to name just a few and just one group. > It would be very interesting to get an actual number of people who did > not do well on T4 only and what they changed to and how much better > they are doing. > > For myself, I take T3 only because of a reverse T3 issue. My doctor > and I decided to stay on T3 only was the best route for me. For one > thing, she says that T4 is just a storage hormone anyway. Which I > have heard before she mentioned it. I have not felt this good in over > 20yrs of being on synthroid. I tried Armour for awhile until the Rt3 > became a problem. I have lost over 20#, my cholesterol went from 237 > to 177, I have more energy, I am sleeping SO much better. > Concentration level is amazing, I did not realize how bad that got > until I saw improvement. My eyebrows and eyelashes have grown back > AFTER 20YRs. Teeth marks on the sides of my tongue are gone. These > are just a few of the pluses for me taking something other than a > T4med only. > > Venizia ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I agree with Roni. I do believe that thyroid issues are on the verge of epidemic if not already. Roni, I also have had doctors want to pop the pills and I also refused and I am SO glad I did. One was my heart doctor. He wanted to put me on cholesterol meds and I told him no that I knew my problems were my thyroid and sure enough once the thyroid was taken care of so was my cholesterol. I remember his assistant telling me it was not going to get better than it was. These doctors need to wise up and start reading their medical journals and maybe be open minded enough to read books like Dr. Mark Starr, " Type II Hypothyroidsm "  or Janie's " Stop The Thyroid Madness. " To you 5000 may not be a lot of people but I say it will become a larger number as patients get tired of their doctors not listening to them and going only by TSH rather than Ft3- Ft4, ferritin, adrenals and how their patients feel etc. Why do you think even on this list, people come here. They are not getting the answers from their doctors. They are not feeling well. They want answers. What their doctors are doing is not working. Just my two cents Venizia From: <res075ohverizon (DOT) net> Subject: Re: Functioning hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 4:06 PM It's great to hear you're improving. It's so discouraging when people have such a hard time getting relief. I'm glad you kept plugging away until you got help. 5000 people on a list isn't so many when you consider there's about 6.8 billion people on earth. And if you believe some of the lists then perhaps a couple billion of them have some form of hypothyroidism [not a figure I believe, incidentally] . For every person on that list there are over a million NOT on it. Even if you add up all the lists it's no where near a reasonable fraction of one percent. One indication of how few people have problems is the likelihood that if you do happen to be one of those who have problems with T4 only treatment your doctor may have never heard of such a thing. At least if we can believe the reports we so often read. But you're right; I have no idea of how accurate the number is. Best, .. .. > >     Posted by: " Carol " nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net >     <mailto:nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net?Subject=%20Re% 3A%20Functioning > >     venizia1948 <http://profiles. / venizia1948> > > >      Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:19 am (PST) > > > > I suspect your number of 95% of people who have no complaints taking > one pill a day is quite high. Just in ONE of my internet groups for > thyroid there are over 5,000 people who were NOT doing well on T4only > meds and are switching over to a combination BECAUSE they had so many > complaints with the T4 only meds. This is from people all over the > world, India, Italy, Australia to name just a few and just one group. > It would be very interesting to get an actual number of people who did > not do well on T4 only and what they changed to and how much better > they are doing. > > For myself, I take T3 only because of a reverse T3 issue. My doctor > and I decided to stay on T3 only was the best route for me. For one > thing, she says that T4 is just a storage hormone anyway. Which I > have heard before she mentioned it. I have not felt this good in over > 20yrs of being on synthroid. I tried Armour for awhile until the Rt3 > became a problem. I have lost over 20#, my cholesterol went from 237 > to 177, I have more energy, I am sleeping SO much better. > Concentration level is amazing, I did not realize how bad that got > until I saw improvement. My eyebrows and eyelashes have grown back > AFTER 20YRs. Teeth marks on the sides of my tongue are gone. These > are just a few of the pluses for me taking something other than a > T4med only. > > Venizia ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I think 5000 is not a great number, but I believe that there are so many more that know nothing about their own condition, think their doctors MUST be acting in their own best interests because " isn't that what doctors do? " , have no idea that their symptoms are because they are undermedicated or are so convinced that it's " all in their head " . It's really a travesty that hypoT patients can't get properly diagnosed and treated, all in the name of " more money for me, the heck with you. " <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: <res075ohverizon (DOT) net> Subject: Re: Functioning hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 4:06 PM It's great to hear you're improving. It's so discouraging when people have such a hard time getting relief. I'm glad you kept plugging away until you got help. 5000 people on a list isn't so many when you consider there's about 6.8 billion people on earth. And if you believe some of the lists then perhaps a couple billion of them have some form of hypothyroidism [not a figure I believe, incidentally] . For every person on that list there are over a million NOT on it. Even if you add up all the lists it's no where near a reasonable fraction of one percent. One indication of how few people have problems is the likelihood that if you do happen to be one of those who have problems with T4 only treatment your doctor may have never heard of such a thing. At least if we can believe the reports we so often read. But you're right; I have no idea of how accurate the number is. Best, .. .. > > Posted by: " Carol " nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net > <mailto:nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net?Subject=%20Re% 3A%20Functioning > > venizia1948 <http://profiles. / venizia1948> > > > Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:19 am (PST) > > > > I suspect your number of 95% of people who have no complaints taking > one pill a day is quite high. Just in ONE of my internet groups for > thyroid there are over 5,000 people who were NOT doing well on T4only > meds and are switching over to a combination BECAUSE they had so many > complaints with the T4 only meds. This is from people all over the > world, India, Italy, Australia to name just a few and just one group. > It would be very interesting to get an actual number of people who did > not do well on T4 only and what they changed to and how much better > they are doing. > > For myself, I take T3 only because of a reverse T3 issue. My doctor > and I decided to stay on T3 only was the best route for me. For one > thing, she says that T4 is just a storage hormone anyway. Which I > have heard before she mentioned it. I have not felt this good in over > 20yrs of being on synthroid. I tried Armour for awhile until the Rt3 > became a problem. I have lost over 20#, my cholesterol went from 237 > to 177, I have more energy, I am sleeping SO much better. > Concentration level is amazing, I did not realize how bad that got > until I saw improvement. My eyebrows and eyelashes have grown back > AFTER 20YRs. Teeth marks on the sides of my tongue are gone. These > are just a few of the pluses for me taking something other than a > T4med only. > > Venizia ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 5000 may not be looked at as a large number but how quickly they got to this number, the number is growing quickly. I think the care that hypo patients get is on the verge of malpractice. Venizia From: <res075ohverizon (DOT) net> Subject: Re: Functioning hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 4:06 PM It's great to hear you're improving. It's so discouraging when people have such a hard time getting relief. I'm glad you kept plugging away until you got help. 5000 people on a list isn't so many when you consider there's about 6.8 billion people on earth. And if you believe some of the lists then perhaps a couple billion of them have some form of hypothyroidism [not a figure I believe, incidentally] . For every person on that list there are over a million NOT on it. Even if you add up all the lists it's no where near a reasonable fraction of one percent. One indication of how few people have problems is the likelihood that if you do happen to be one of those who have problems with T4 only treatment your doctor may have never heard of such a thing. At least if we can believe the reports we so often read. But you're right; I have no idea of how accurate the number is. Best, .. .. > >     Posted by: " Carol " nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net >     <mailto:nelsonck@ sbcglobal. net?Subject= %20Re% 3A%20Functioning > >     venizia1948 <http://profiles. / venizia1948> > > >      Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:19 am (PST) > > > > I suspect your number of 95% of people who have no complaints taking > one pill a day is quite high. Just in ONE of my internet groups for > thyroid there are over 5,000 people who were NOT doing well on T4only > meds and are switching over to a combination BECAUSE they had so many > complaints with the T4 only meds. This is from people all over the > world, India, Italy, Australia to name just a few and just one group. > It would be very interesting to get an actual number of people who did > not do well on T4 only and what they changed to and how much better > they are doing. > > For myself, I take T3 only because of a reverse T3 issue. My doctor > and I decided to stay on T3 only was the best route for me. For one > thing, she says that T4 is just a storage hormone anyway. Which I > have heard before she mentioned it. I have not felt this good in over > 20yrs of being on synthroid. I tried Armour for awhile until the Rt3 > became a problem. I have lost over 20#, my cholesterol went from 237 > to 177, I have more energy, I am sleeping SO much better. > Concentration level is amazing, I did not realize how bad that got > until I saw improvement. My eyebrows and eyelashes have grown back > AFTER 20YRs. Teeth marks on the sides of my tongue are gone. These > are just a few of the pluses for me taking something other than a > T4med only. > > Venizia ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 That's what I just said, in different words. LOL! <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: <res075ohverizon (DOT) net> Subject: Re: Functioning hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 4:06 PM It's great to hear you're improving. It's so discouraging when people have such a hard time getting relief. I'm glad you kept plugging away until you got help. 5000 people on a list isn't so many when you consider there's about 6.8 billion people on earth. And if you believe some of the lists then perhaps a couple billion of them have some form of hypothyroidism [not a figure I believe, incidentally] . For every person on that list there are over a million NOT on it. Even if you add up all the lists it's no where near a reasonable fraction of one percent. One indication of how few people have problems is the likelihood that if you do happen to be one of those who have problems with T4 only treatment your doctor may have never heard of such a thing. At least if we can believe the reports we so often read. But you're right; I have no idea of how accurate the number is. Best, .. .. > > Posted by: " Carol " nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net > <mailto:nelsonck@ sbcglobal. net?Subject= %20Re% 3A%20Functioning > > venizia1948 <http://profiles. / venizia1948> > > > Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:19 am (PST) > > > > I suspect your number of 95% of people who have no complaints taking > one pill a day is quite high. Just in ONE of my internet groups for > thyroid there are over 5,000 people who were NOT doing well on T4only > meds and are switching over to a combination BECAUSE they had so many > complaints with the T4 only meds. This is from people all over the > world, India, Italy, Australia to name just a few and just one group. > It would be very interesting to get an actual number of people who did > not do well on T4 only and what they changed to and how much better > they are doing. > > For myself, I take T3 only because of a reverse T3 issue. My doctor > and I decided to stay on T3 only was the best route for me. For one > thing, she says that T4 is just a storage hormone anyway. Which I > have heard before she mentioned it. I have not felt this good in over > 20yrs of being on synthroid. I tried Armour for awhile until the Rt3 > became a problem. I have lost over 20#, my cholesterol went from 237 > to 177, I have more energy, I am sleeping SO much better. > Concentration level is amazing, I did not realize how bad that got > until I saw improvement. My eyebrows and eyelashes have grown back > AFTER 20YRs. Teeth marks on the sides of my tongue are gone. These > are just a few of the pluses for me taking something other than a > T4med only. > > Venizia ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 We agree! lol Venizia From: <res075ohverizon (DOT) net> Subject: Re: Functioning hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 4:06 PM It's great to hear you're improving. It's so discouraging when people have such a hard time getting relief. I'm glad you kept plugging away until you got help. 5000 people on a list isn't so many when you consider there's about 6.8 billion people on earth. And if you believe some of the lists then perhaps a couple billion of them have some form of hypothyroidism [not a figure I believe, incidentally] . For every person on that list there are over a million NOT on it. Even if you add up all the lists it's no where near a reasonable fraction of one percent. One indication of how few people have problems is the likelihood that if you do happen to be one of those who have problems with T4 only treatment your doctor may have never heard of such a thing. At least if we can believe the reports we so often read. But you're right; I have no idea of how accurate the number is. Best, .. .. > >     Posted by: " Carol " nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net >     <mailto:nelsonck@ sbcglobal. net?Subject= %20Re% 3A%20Functioning > >     venizia1948 <http://profiles. / venizia1948> > > >      Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:19 am (PST) > > > > I suspect your number of 95% of people who have no complaints taking > one pill a day is quite high. Just in ONE of my internet groups for > thyroid there are over 5,000 people who were NOT doing well on T4only > meds and are switching over to a combination BECAUSE they had so many > complaints with the T4 only meds. This is from people all over the > world, India, Italy, Australia to name just a few and just one group. > It would be very interesting to get an actual number of people who did > not do well on T4 only and what they changed to and how much better > they are doing. > > For myself, I take T3 only because of a reverse T3 issue. My doctor > and I decided to stay on T3 only was the best route for me. For one > thing, she says that T4 is just a storage hormone anyway. Which I > have heard before she mentioned it. I have not felt this good in over > 20yrs of being on synthroid. I tried Armour for awhile until the Rt3 > became a problem. I have lost over 20#, my cholesterol went from 237 > to 177, I have more energy, I am sleeping SO much better. > Concentration level is amazing, I did not realize how bad that got > until I saw improvement. My eyebrows and eyelashes have grown back > AFTER 20YRs. Teeth marks on the sides of my tongue are gone. These > are just a few of the pluses for me taking something other than a > T4med only. > > Venizia ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 http://www.nutritional-supplement-educational-centre.com/foods-high-in-potassium\ ..html <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: Ms Sheri <kembaluv@...> Subject: Re: Functioning hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 7:16 PM Wow...so much info..trying very hard to take it all in. I am a vegetarian for the most part. I only eat Fish..no other meat which definetely does not help I know. I will try to get the B12 as well as potassium. Dumb question but will bananas suffice what other foods are high in potassium? I use lots of iodized sea salt. I recently boughr some kelp. I have never tried it before but i hear it is very high in Iodized salt. Thank you so much for your responses. I am learning a lot. I have literally been in bed almost all week. > > > > From: <res075ohverizon (DOT) net> > > > > Subject: Re: Functioning > > > > hypothyroidism > > > > Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 4:06 PM > > > > It's great to hear you're improving. It's so discouraging when people > > > > have such a hard time getting relief. I'm glad you kept plugging away > > > > until you got help. > > > > 5000 people on a list isn't so many when you consider there's about 6.8 > > > > billion people on earth. And if you believe some of the lists then > > > > perhaps a couple billion of them have some form of hypothyroidism [not a > > > > figure I believe, incidentally] . For every person on that list there > > > > are over a million NOT on it. Even if you add up all the lists it's no > > > > where near a reasonable fraction of one percent. > > > > One indication of how few people have problems is the likelihood that if > > > > you do happen to be one of those who have problems with T4 only > > > > treatment your doctor may have never heard of such a thing. At least if > > > > we can believe the reports we so often read. But you're right; I have > > > > no idea of how accurate the number is. > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > . > > > > . > > > > > > > > > >     Posted by: " Carol " nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net > > > > >     <mailto:nelsonck@ sbcglobal. net?Subject= %20Re% 3A%20Functioning > > > > > >     venizia1948 <http://profiles. / venizia1948> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >      Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:19 am (PST) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect your number of 95% of people who have no complaints taking > > > > > one pill a day is quite high. Just in ONE of my internet groups for > > > > > thyroid there are over 5,000 people who were NOT doing well on T4only > > > > > meds and are switching over to a combination BECAUSE they had so many > > > > > complaints with the T4 only meds. This is from people all over the > > > > > world, India, Italy, Australia to name just a few and just one group. > > > > > It would be very interesting to get an actual number of people who did > > > > > not do well on T4 only and what they changed to and how much better > > > > > they are doing. > > > > > > > > > > For myself, I take T3 only because of a reverse T3 issue. My doctor > > > > > and I decided to stay on T3 only was the best route for me. For one > > > > > thing, she says that T4 is just a storage hormone anyway. Which I > > > > > have heard before she mentioned it. I have not felt this good in over > > > > > 20yrs of biing on synthroi`. I tried Armour for awhile until the Rt3 > > > > > became a problem. I have lost over 20#, my cholesterol went from 237 > > > > > to 177, I have more energy, I am sleeping SO much better. > > > > > Concentration level is amazing, I did not realize how bad that got > > > > > until I saw improvement. My eyebrows and eyelashes have grown back > > > > > AFTER 20YRs. Teeth marks on the sides of my tongue are gone. These > > > > > are just a few of the pluses for me taking something other than a > > > > > T4med only. > > > > > > > > > > Venizia > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I think you need more protein and for me that way is fish, chicken, beef, lamb, and pork. Being a vegi you need to make sure that you are getting enough protein in your diet everyday but you probably know that all ready. Because of my hypo I was told that protein throughout the day was very important. I never ate breakfast and usually didn't eat until the afternoon. I was screwing up the balance in my body and I now know that I need to eat for all of my organs to run right and in sinc. I'm working on eating more than not eating at all. Also I have added more protein in my diet to get off the B12 shots. What a pain in the hiney. I would rather try to get it from my diet than rely on a shot. Our bodies absorb food better than supplements. JMO, from Illinois ________________________________ From: Ms Sheri <kembaluv@...> hypothyroidism Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 9:16:09 PM Subject: Re: Functioning Wow...so much info..trying very hard to take it all in. I am a vegetarian for the most part. I only eat Fish..no other meat which definetely does not help I know. I will try to get the B12 as well as potassium. Dumb question but will bananas suffice what other foods are high in potassium? I use lots of iodized sea salt. I recently boughr some kelp. I have never tried it before but i hear it is very high in Iodized salt. Thank you so much for your responses. I am learning a lot. I have literally been in bed almost all week. > > > > From: <res075ohverizon (DOT) net> > > > > Subject: Re: Functioning > > > > hypothyroidism > > > > Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 4:06 PM > > > > It's great to hear you're improving. It's so discouraging when people > > > > have such a hard time getting relief. I'm glad you kept plugging away > > > > until you got help. > > > > 5000 people on a list isn't so many when you consider there's about 6.8 > > > > billion people on earth. And if you believe some of the lists then > > > > perhaps a couple billion of them have some form of hypothyroidism [not a > > > > figure I believe, incidentally] . For every person on that list there > > > > are over a million NOT on it. Even if you add up all the lists it's no > > > > where near a reasonable fraction of one percent. > > > > One indication of how few people have problems is the likelihood that if > > > > you do happen to be one of those who have problems with T4 only > > > > treatment your doctor may have never heard of such a thing. At least if > > > > we can believe the reports we so often read. But you're right; I have > > > > no idea of how accurate the number is. > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > . > > > > . > > > > > > > > > >     Posted by: " Carol " nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net > > > > >     <mailto:nelsonck@ sbcglobal. net?Subject= %20Re% 3A%20Functioning > > > > > >     venizia1948 <http://profiles. / venizia1948> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >      Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:19 am (PST) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect your number of 95% of people who have no complaints taking > > > > > one pill a day is quite high. Just in ONE of my internet groups for > > > > > thyroid there are over 5,000 people who were NOT doing well on T4only > > > > > meds and are switching over to a combination BECAUSE they had so many > > > > > complaints with the T4 only meds. This is from people all over the > > > > > world, India, Italy, Australia to name just a few and just one group. > > > > > It would be very interesting to get an actual number of people who did > > > > > not do well on T4 only and what they changed to and how much better > > > > > they are doing. > > > > > > > > > > For myself, I take T3 only because of a reverse T3 issue. My doctor > > > > > and I decided to stay on T3 only was the best route for me. For one > > > > > thing, she says that T4 is just a storage hormone anyway. Which I > > > > > have heard before she mentioned it. I have not felt this good in over > > > > > 20yrs of biing on synthroi`. I tried Armour for awhile until the Rt3 > > > > > became a problem. I have lost over 20#, my cholesterol went from 237 > > > > > to 177, I have more energy, I am sleeping SO much better. > > > > > Concentration level is amazing, I did not realize how bad that got > > > > > until I saw improvement. My eyebrows and eyelashes have grown back > > > > > AFTER 20YRs. Teeth marks on the sides of my tongue are gone. These > > > > > are just a few of the pluses for me taking something other than a > > > > > T4med only. > > > > > > > > > > Venizia > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Hi Sheri, Here is a website to get a list of foods high in Potassium. <http://foodshighinpotassium.com/> I think you might want to look more into the kelp. I think that can cause a problem with thyroid med intake. Venizia From: Ms Sheri <kembaluv@...> Subject: Re: Functioning hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 9:16 PM  Wow...so much info..trying very hard to take it all in. I am a vegetarian for the most part. I only eat Fish..no other meat which definetely does not help I know. I will try to get the B12 as well as potassium. Dumb question but will bananas suffice what other foods are high in potassium? I use lots of iodized sea salt. I recently boughr some kelp. I have never tried it before but i hear it is very high in Iodized salt. Thank you so much for your responses. I am learning a lot. I have literally been in bed almost all week. > > > > From: <res075ohverizon (DOT) net> > > > > Subject: Re: Functioning > > > > hypothyroidism > > > > Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 4:06 PM > > > > It's great to hear you're improving. It's so discouraging when people > > > > have such a hard time getting relief. I'm glad you kept plugging away > > > > until you got help. > > > > 5000 people on a list isn't so many when you consider there's about 6.8 > > > > billion people on earth. And if you believe some of the lists then > > > > perhaps a couple billion of them have some form of hypothyroidism [not a > > > > figure I believe, incidentally] . For every person on that list there > > > > are over a million NOT on it. Even if you add up all the lists it's no > > > > where near a reasonable fraction of one percent. > > > > One indication of how few people have problems is the likelihood that if > > > > you do happen to be one of those who have problems with T4 only > > > > treatment your doctor may have never heard of such a thing. At least if > > > > we can believe the reports we so often read. But you're right; I have > > > > no idea of how accurate the number is. > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > . > > > > . > > > > > > > > > >     Posted by: " Carol " nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net > > > > >     <mailto:nelsonck@ sbcglobal. net?Subject= %20Re% 3A%20Functioning > > > > > >     venizia1948 <http://profiles. / venizia1948> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >      Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:19 am (PST) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect your number of 95% of people who have no complaints taking > > > > > one pill a day is quite high. Just in ONE of my internet groups for > > > > > thyroid there are over 5,000 people who were NOT doing well on T4only > > > > > meds and are switching over to a combination BECAUSE they had so many > > > > > complaints with the T4 only meds. This is from people all over the > > > > > world, India, Italy, Australia to name just a few and just one group. > > > > > It would be very interesting to get an actual number of people who did > > > > > not do well on T4 only and what they changed to and how much better > > > > > they are doing. > > > > > > > > > > For myself, I take T3 only because of a reverse T3 issue. My doctor > > > > > and I decided to stay on T3 only was the best route for me. For one > > > > > thing, she says that T4 is just a storage hormone anyway. Which I > > > > > have heard before she mentioned it. I have not felt this good in over > > > > > 20yrs of biing on synthroi`. I tried Armour for awhile until the Rt3 > > > > > became a problem. I have lost over 20#, my cholesterol went from 237 > > > > > to 177, I have more energy, I am sleeping SO much better. > > > > > Concentration level is amazing, I did not realize how bad that got > > > > > until I saw improvement. My eyebrows and eyelashes have grown back > > > > > AFTER 20YRs. Teeth marks on the sides of my tongue are gone. These > > > > > are just a few of the pluses for me taking something other than a > > > > > T4med only. > > > > > > > > > > Venizia > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: Ms Sheri <kembaluv@...> Subject: Re: Functioning hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 9:16 PM Wow...so much info..trying very hard to take it all in. I am a vegetarian for the most part. I only eat Fish..no other meat which definetely does not help I know. I will try to get the B12 as well as potassium. Dumb question but will bananas suffice what other foods are high in potassium? I use lots of iodized sea salt. I recently boughr some kelp. I have never tried it before but i hear it is very high in Iodized salt. Thank you so much for your responses. I am learning a lot. I have literally been in bed almost all week. > > > > From: <res075ohverizon (DOT) net> > > > > Subject: Re: Functioning > > > > hypothyroidism > > > > Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 4:06 PM > > > > It's great to hear you're improving. It's so discouraging when people > > > > have such a hard time getting relief. I'm glad you kept plugging away > > > > until you got help. > > > > 5000 people on a list isn't so many when you consider there's about 6.8 > > > > billion people on earth. And if you believe some of the lists then > > > > perhaps a couple billion of them have some form of hypothyroidism [not a > > > > figure I believe, incidentally] . For every person on that list there > > > > are over a million NOT on it. Even if you add up all the lists it's no > > > > where near a reasonable fraction of one percent. > > > > One indication of how few people have problems is the likelihood that if > > > > you do happen to be one of those who have problems with T4 only > > > > treatment your doctor may have never heard of such a thing. At least if > > > > we can believe the reports we so often read. But you're right; I have > > > > no idea of how accurate the number is. > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > . > > > > . > > > > > > > > > >     Posted by: " Carol " nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net > > > > >     <mailto:nelsonck@ sbcglobal. net?Subject= %20Re% 3A%20Functioning > > > > > >     venizia1948 <http://profiles. / venizia1948> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >      Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:19 am (PST) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect your number of 95% of people who have no complaints taking > > > > > one pill a day is quite high. Just in ONE of my internet groups for > > > > > thyroid there are over 5,000 people who were NOT doing well on T4only > > > > > meds and are switching over to a combination BECAUSE they had so many > > > > > complaints with the T4 only meds. This is from people all over the > > > > > world, India, Italy, Australia to name just a few and just one group. > > > > > It would be very interesting to get an actual number of people who did > > > > > not do well on T4 only and what they changed to and how much better > > > > > they are doing. > > > > > > > > > > For myself, I take T3 only because of a reverse T3 issue. My doctor > > > > > and I decided to stay on T3 only was the best route for me. For one > > > > > thing, she says that T4 is just a storage hormone anyway. Which I > > > > > have heard before she mentioned it. I have not felt this good in over > > > > > 20yrs of biing on synthroi`. I tried Armour for awhile until the Rt3 > > > > > became a problem. I have lost over 20#, my cholesterol went from 237 > > > > > to 177, I have more energy, I am sleeping SO much better. > > > > > Concentration level is amazing, I did not realize how bad that got > > > > > until I saw improvement. My eyebrows and eyelashes have grown back > > > > > AFTER 20YRs. Teeth marks on the sides of my tongue are gone. These > > > > > are just a few of the pluses for me taking something other than a > > > > > T4med only. > > > > > > > > > > Venizia > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 But look at all the money they are getting by prescribing Synthroid. The conspiracy is so strong that they don't even do the proper testing, so there's no way that they can find the right answers. I'm sure that to someone who's not having these issues it may seem very oddball, and very few, but, believe me, it's very much larger than you could imagine. Look what happened when Forest went and changed their formula and so many people got sick on it. At first they tried to hide it and say nothing was wrong and they didn't hear anything about it. Then they got so much negative feedback they acknowledged that they changed the formula. Then they got so much more negative feedback, they finally stopped making it. I don't believe them for a minute that all they changed was one of the " inactive " ingredients. <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> > > From: Roni Molin <matchermaam@... <mailto:matchermaam%40>> > Subject: Re: Re: Functioning > hypothyroidism > <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> > Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 6:22 PM > > > > , I think there are millions, if not billions of people that are > misdiagnosed as having some sort of mental illness, rather than > assessing their thyroid and adrenal health. The medical profession and > the drug companies make billions on antidepressants, pain meds etc., > and the doctors all seem to try to give them to you, no matter what > your symptoms are. I have refused those things from every doctor I've > been to, and won't take them, except that I do have take a valium > along with Flecainide when I get an atrial fibrillation attack. I > don't even like to do that, but it helps to calm the heartbeat down. > > <>Roni ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Oh I agree they are brighter than the average bear, but do they actually want to do things in the best interests of their patients or their wallets? I've met the good ones and the bad ones, and the difference is stunning. <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: <res075oh@...> Subject: Re: Functioning hypothyroidism Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 3:38 PM To some extent I think we find what we expect to find. For the most part I seem to find reasonably competent doctors who are well educated and brighter than the average bear. And I _do_ have a reasonable lay person's ability to make that determination. Regards, .. .. > > Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@... > <mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Functioning> > matchermaam <matchermaam> > > > Sun Feb 7, 2010 6:19 pm (PST) > > > > I think 5000 is not a great number, but I believe that there are so > many more that know nothing about their own condition, think their > doctors MUST be acting in their own best interests because " isn't that > what doctors do? " , have no idea that their symptoms are because they > are undermedicated or are so convinced that it's " all in their head " . > It's really a travesty that hypoT patients can't get properly > diagnosed and treated, all in the name of > " more money for me, the heck with you. " > > <>Roni ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 There are MANY people who still put doctors up on the pedestal and who are afraid to confront them. What the doctors says goes. I have heard, the " Today Show " for one where a doctor was telling his patient she was just in menopause and she was fat and he kept stressing to her, she was fat fat fat. This happens way too often. She saw a doctor that thinks outside the box and is not influence by the drug companies and today she is on her way to good health. She was hypothyroid. BUT we are getting off topic for those who want thyroid info...so.... Venizia > > From: Roni Molin <matchermaam <mailto:matchermaam %40. com>> > Subject: Re: Re: Functioning > hypothyroidism > <mailto:hypothyroid ism%40group s.com> > Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 6:22 PM > > > > , I think there are millions, if not billions of people that are > misdiagnosed as having some sort of mental illness, rather than > assessing their thyroid and adrenal health. The medical profession and > the drug companies make billions on antidepressants, pain meds etc., > and the doctors all seem to try to give them to you, no matter what > your symptoms are. I have refused those things from every doctor I've > been to, and won't take them, except that I do have take a valium > along with Flecainide when I get an atrial fibrillation attack. I > don't even like to do that, but it helps to calm the heartbeat down. > > <>Roni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Here, here Roni....very well said!!! Venizia > > From: Roni Molin <matchermaam <mailto:matchermaam %40. com>> > Subject: Re: Re: Functioning > hypothyroidism > <mailto:hypothyroid ism%40group s.com> > Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 6:22 PM > > > > , I think there are millions, if not billions of people that are > misdiagnosed as having some sort of mental illness, rather than > assessing their thyroid and adrenal health. The medical profession and > the drug companies make billions on antidepressants, pain meds etc., > and the doctors all seem to try to give them to you, no matter what > your symptoms are. I have refused those things from every doctor I've > been to, and won't take them, except that I do have take a valium > along with Flecainide when I get an atrial fibrillation attack. I > don't even like to do that, but it helps to calm the heartbeat down. > > <>Roni ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Thank you. : ) <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> > > From: Roni Molin <matchermaam <mailto:matchermaam %40. com>> > Subject: Re: Re: Functioning > hypothyroidism > <mailto:hypothyroid ism%40group s.com> > Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 6:22 PM > > > > , I think there are millions, if not billions of people that are > misdiagnosed as having some sort of mental illness, rather than > assessing their thyroid and adrenal health. The medical profession and > the drug companies make billions on antidepressants, pain meds etc., > and the doctors all seem to try to give them to you, no matter what > your symptoms are. I have refused those things from every doctor I've > been to, and won't take them, except that I do have take a valium > along with Flecainide when I get an atrial fibrillation attack. I > don't even like to do that, but it helps to calm the heartbeat down. > > <>Roni ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 , I find this offensive in your comment about Armour. Do you think we are all puppets. The FDA made Forrest labs take care of the issue. There was an ISSUE. It was not in our heads, it was real. I think you have gone too far this time . You know I try to be fair and try to see all sides....this is not fair of you. Venizia From: <res075oh@...> Subject: Re: Functioning hypothyroidism Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 1:52 PM  You cannot change the formula in a drastic manner for a drug that has been approved for sale; I doubt you can tamper with the active ingredients at all. If you do you have to treat it as a new drug and go through the approval process; which is very long and expensive. To arbitrarily change a formula without approval would probably be a felony in any country on earth. Further, it would open up such a floodgate of litigation that to do so would be committing financial suicide. That is the exact opposite of the motive you seem to feel they have: To make money. I personally suspect that the effectiveness of Armour may have decreased because of a decrease in the effectiveness of the placebo factor for that medication. Once it became widely known that the formula had been changed [although only the inert ingredients] that may have caused a paranoia among those who do not realize that inert ingredients are exactly that: They are inert for the vast majority of humans; and are chosen exactly for that reason. So the " faith " of the " faithful " proponents was shaken, and the beneficial effects that most all medicines exhibit that are in fact placebo effect decreased. Of course, from a scientific viewpoint this is just idle speculation. .. AND: There may be some tiny percentage of patients who _do_ actually have a negative reaction to the change in inert ingredients. Again: If you go looking for a conspiracy expecting to find one you probably will IMHO. .. .. > > Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam > <mailto:matchermaam?Subject=%20Re% 3A%20Functioning > > matchermaam <http://profiles. / matchermaam> > > > Mon Feb 8, 2010 4:25 pm (PST) > > > > But look at all the money they are getting by prescribing Synthroid. > The conspiracy is so strong that they don't even do the proper > testing, so there's no way that they can find the right answers. > I'm sure that to someone who's not having these issues it may seem > very oddball, and very few, but, believe me, it's very much larger > than you could imagine. Look what happened when Forest went and > changed their formula and so many people got sick on it. At first they > tried to hide it and say nothing was wrong and they didn't hear > anything about it. Then they got so much negative feedback they > acknowledged that they changed the formula. Then they got so much more > negative feedback, they finally stopped making it. I don't believe > them for a minute that all they changed was one of the " inactive " > ingredients. > > <>Roni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Yes, you are right. Venizia From: <res075oh@...> Subject: Re: Functioning hypothyroidism Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 1:55 PM Â Venizia, it's " Hear, hear " . .. .. > > Posted by: " Carol " nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net > <mailto:nelsoncksbcglobal (DOT) net?Subject=%20Re% 3A%20Functioning > > venizia1948 <http://profiles. / venizia1948> > > > Mon Feb 8, 2010 4:32 pm (PST) > > > > Here, here Roni....very well said!!! > > Venizia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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