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In a message dated 7/7/00 2:50:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

steve@... writes:

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In darkness we are no less >>

Hi Steve,

The little comment on the end had a real appeal to me. Nice thought for me

right now. Just stared at it, thinking, " I really needed somebody to say

that to me, now " :)

Mam in Fla

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That reference is to black pepper, which irritates the stomach, not cayenne.

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Sharon,

Not that I doubt what you're saying about fresh ground black pepper

being OK -- but, can you cite some authorative source? I'm from the

South where black pepper is a staple of life. I would love to be

able

to eat it again without guilt.

Steve

> In a message dated 7/7/00 1:54:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> sparrow1@a... writes:

>

> << cayenne is pepper...pepper is an avoid for o's... >>

>

> It is black pepper that is an avoid, but cayenne is red pepper and

I

think it

> is an HB. The black pepper is only an avoid if it is pre-ground.

If it is

> ground fresh it is okay. I think is something to do with the mold

or

> something.

>

> Sharon

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sbarre@... wrote:

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> Sharon,

>

> Not that I doubt what you're saying about fresh ground black pepper

> being OK -- but, can you cite some authorative source? I'm from the

> South where black pepper is a staple of life. I would love to be

> able

> to eat it again without guilt.

>

My copy of ER4YT shows pepper - peppercorns (which I am pretty sure are unground

pepper) are Neutral whilst pepper - ground black or white is an Avoid.

The updated Food List at http://www.er4yt.org/ER4YT.html appear to show the

same.

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MAMZEL150@... wrote:

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> In a message dated 7/7/00 2:50:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> steve@... writes:

>

> << In love and light we are

> In darkness we are no less >>

>

> Hi Steve,

>

> The little comment on the end had a real appeal to me. Nice thought for me

> right now. Just stared at it, thinking, " I really needed somebody to say

> that to me, now " :)

>

> Mam in Fla

>

Well if it makes one person 'happy' then it is worth all those that ask me to

explain myself.

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Hi to all

As far as I know black pepper and cayenne pepper are not from the same family.

Cayenne pepper is more of the chili family being used together with other

masala's to make your curry much stronger.

I cook a lot of Indian (Hindu) curries and these do not contain any curry powder

- Indian curries consist of using various masala's (spices) mixed with cayenne

pepper. Cayenne pepper is also very beneficial to the liver and is often used

here in SA to aid digestion. The chilli peppers are quite often cut up and

sprinkeled over food for that reason.

The peppers/chillies are dried and ground into powder = cayenne pepper.

Best wishes

Elize

South Africa

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Dear Robin

Another reply from me re cayenne pepper

Yes taking the pepper on an empty stomach would burn should you not be used to

taking it. Here in SA many Indian people mix the cayenne pepper with milk and

is used for various medicinal reasons. Pepper/chili is also taken here when

having flu as it assists to open us the nasal passages.

There again found that the chilies/peppers here in SA are the small very strong

one and are very HOT.

Best wishes

Elize

South Africa

>>> sparrow1@... 07/07/00 07:19PM >>>

cayenne is pepper...pepper is an avoid for o's...

after meals...that sounds like a better way to take it than what i was doing. i

took it with water but usually on an empty stomach...it burned all the way down

and for hours later.

robin

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In a message dated 7/7/00 11:35:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

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<< the cayenne doesn't burn your stomacher at all? >>

Cayenne should not burn your stomach at all. I take it 1/2 hour after a

meal

with a small amount of water, along with other supplements.

Ann in Florida

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Everyone on the www.er4yt.org/FoodList.html Question 14 it says, under some

examples (PEPPERCORNS ARE TYPE OK,BUT GROUND PEPPER IS NOT. GROUND PEPPER IS

A POTENT MOLD GROWTH MEDUIM, AND TYPE O'S ARE SENSITIVE TO MOLDS. FRESHLY

GROUND PEPPER IS NOT MOLDY.)

SHERRY

>From: Steve Howes <steve@...>

>Reply-egroups

>egroups

>Subject: Re: Re: Cayenne

>Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 10:46:16 +0100

>

>sbarre@... wrote:

> >

> > Sharon,

> >

> > Not that I doubt what you're saying about fresh ground black pepper

> > being OK -- but, can you cite some authorative source? I'm from the

> > South where black pepper is a staple of life. I would love to be

> > able

> > to eat it again without guilt.

> >

>

>My copy of ER4YT shows pepper - peppercorns (which I am pretty sure are

>unground

>pepper) are Neutral whilst pepper - ground black or white is an Avoid.

>

>The updated Food List at http://www.er4yt.org/ER4YT.html appear to show the

>same.

>

>--

>Steve - Cheltenham, UK

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I left something out-------------------------------------it should read

PEPPERCORNS ARE TYPE O OK

>Everyone, on the www.er4yt.org/FoodList.html Question 14 it says, under

>some

>examples (PEPPERCORNS ARE TYPE OK,BUT GROUND PEPPER IS NOT. GROUND PEPPER

>IS

>A POTENT MOLD GROWTH MEDUIM, AND TYPE O'S ARE SENSITIVE TO MOLDS. FRESHLY

>GROUND PEPPER IS NOT MOLDY.)

>SHERRY

>

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In a message dated 7/27/00 2:08:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, vilik@...

writes:

<< ne of my books on cayenne says always make sure

you take it in such a way that you get the reaction

in your mouth first...ie...don't take it in capsules. >>

My research indicates that the " heat " in the mouth, prepares the stomach to

accept cayenne by signaling certain juices to start flowing. Rather an

" early warning system " That is why the capsule stuff doesn't do well in many

and gives them digestive troubles. I wasn't aware that one wasn't supposed

to cook with it. Thanks Vilik.

I'm interested in your knowledge (or anyone else's) on urine therapy and

what you think of it now. I've read it's supposed to be a great

healer/balancer and am curious to hear what your experience was.

I all urine.

Lash

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I wasn't aware that one wasn't supposed

>to cook with it.

~~~~~~~~~~~

Apparently the reason people have problems with cayenne is that

they are using it in cooking, which changes the chemical structure.

Raw cayenne is good for and soothing to the mucus membranes.

Cooked cayenne is actually caustic to them.

Now I always add the cayenne AFTER the food is cooked.

~^^V^^~

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Can you reference that piece of information about molecular changes and

mucus membrane irritation?

P.M.

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> I wasn't aware that one wasn't supposed

>>to cook with it.

>~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>Apparently the reason people have problems with cayenne is that

>they are using it in cooking, which changes the chemical structure.

>Raw cayenne is good for and soothing to the mucus membranes.

>Cooked cayenne is actually caustic to them.

>

>Now I always add the cayenne AFTER the food is cooked.

>

>~^^V^^~

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At 12:13 AM 7/28/2000 -0400, you wrote:

>Can you reference that piece of information about molecular changes and

>mucus membrane irritation?

>P.M.

" Cayenne in its DRIED and UNCOOKED form and in the proper dosage is

the number one healer of bleeding ulcers in the digestive tract.

Cayenne in its COOKED form is a major irritant of the digestive tract,

and may CONTRIBUTE to ulcers. "

The book also goes on to say that raw cayenne can also be an irritant,

which I did not know.

From TEN ESSENTIAL HERBS by Lalitha

> Re: Cayenne

>

>

>> I wasn't aware that one wasn't supposed

>>>to cook with it.

>>~~~~~~~~~~~

>>

>>Apparently the reason people have problems with cayenne is that

>>they are using it in cooking, which changes the chemical structure.

>>Raw cayenne is good for and soothing to the mucus membranes.

>>Cooked cayenne is actually caustic to them.

>>

>>Now I always add the cayenne AFTER the food is cooked.

>>

>>~^^V^^~

>>

>>

>>

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At 10:19 AM 7/28/2000 -0500, you wrote:

>

>

>Vilik Rapheles wrote:

>>

>> At 12:13 AM 7/28/2000 -0400, you wrote:

>> >Can you reference that piece of information about molecular changes and

>> >mucus membrane irritation?

>> >P.M.

>>

>> " Cayenne in its DRIED and UNCOOKED form and in the proper dosage is

>> the number one healer of bleeding ulcers in the digestive tract.

>> Cayenne in its COOKED form is a major irritant of the digestive tract,

>> and may CONTRIBUTE to ulcers. "

>>

>> The book also goes on to say that raw cayenne can also be an irritant,

>> which I did not know.

>

>My leaky gut appeared???? to be getting worse from cayenne but I

>hesitate to draw that conclusion, but it appeared to be:). Deb

>

HI DEB!

What form of Cayenne and where did it come from?

~^^V^^~

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Vilik Rapheles wrote:

> HI DEB!

>

> What form of Cayenne and where did it come from?

Hi Vilik,

I used Nature's Way and organic stuff that I purchased from a

neat lady on an herbal farm list I am on, she makes herbal

remedies, especially for animals. It is from San Francisco Herb &

Natural Food Co. It is 40,000 HU. I have a pound of it if you need

some<G>. Deb

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At 09:42 PM 7/28/2000 -0500, you wrote:

>

>

>Vilik Rapheles wrote:

>

>> HI DEB!

>>

>> What form of Cayenne and where did it come from?

>

>Hi Vilik,

> I used Nature's Way and organic stuff that I purchased from a

>neat lady on an herbal farm list I am on, she makes herbal

>remedies, especially for animals. It is from San Francisco Herb &

>Natural Food Co. It is 40,000 HU. I have a pound of it if you need

>some<G>. Deb

Deb,

You and me...we sure have tried it all, haven't we. <grin>

there was a period where I though dried cayenne was burning my

intestines too...even though it's not supposed to.

What made you think it increased gut permeablity?

40ooo IU's...oh baby stuff! Maybe it was too WEAK...heheheh....

~^^V^^~

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Dr. Schulze was a student (disciple) of Dr.

More on Schulze....

http://www.shepherds-rod.org/HEAL/patient/contents.htm

" If you want to become a powerful healer for yourself and your family,

master one herb...cayenne pepper. Knowing cayenne deeply will give you and

your family more cures than dabbling in twenty herbs. "

<snip>

BISER: But all herbalism today is based on herbal capsules!

SCHULZE: This wasn't the way the old-time herbalists practiced. It wasn't

the way my teacher, the late Dr. , practiced. He got his

results with teas and tinctures.

Capsules disconnect people from the herbs they take, so that they have no

personal idea whether they are getting good or lousy quality. Capsules also

prevent people from getting a reaction in their mouths, which was what

Nature intended.

Another great reason not to take cayenne in capsules is that they can make

you real sick. They won't cause permanent damage, but you can suffer

greatly. Capsules can give you a stomach cramp that will double you over.

When you put cayenne in your mouth, your stomach secretes digestive juices

before the cayenne ever gets there. So when the cayenne gets down there,

your stomach is all ready for it.

But if you swallow a capsule, your tongue tastes nothing; a capsule goes

down in your stomach, and your stomach notices nothing - at first. Then,

five minutes later the gelatin bursts, and you have a 1/2 teaspoon of

cayenne pepper in your stomach and your body goes into shock. You surprised

it. " Where did this come from? "

" When You Take Cayenne in Capsules, You Get a Punch in the Stomach.

It's a Very Different Reaction. It's Like NO Warm-up or Stretch

Before You do Vigorous Physical Exercise. "

BISER: It's like jumping on a treadmill and running!

SCHULZE: Right. After you wake up out of bed, you leap onto the treadmill,

within ten seconds, and go for a ten mile an hour run.

Your body will cramp, because you're forcing blood to the muscles before

they're ready. So this is what happens when you take that capsule cayenne.

You get an almost uncontrollable cramping of those organs, and you just bend

right over. If someone is ill with gallstones or has a stomach ulcer, this

can be absolutely the wrong way to do it. You can make yourself worse.

After years in the clinic, I think it is a dangerous thing to do.

BISER: So using a lower potency cayenne in capsules is not an answer for

people who want to go the mild route?

SCHULZE: Why bother? The cayenne in capsules is low quality, in spite of

fancy labels and " high potency " claims. Most cayenne sold comes from

third-world countries and is highly sprayed with pesticides. It doesn't

work. Patients who used it stayed sick - until I blew their health problems

open with the " right stuff. "

The lower-heat cayennes are a lot less efficient, and they are the ones that

are most highly contaminated. These are the ones you see labeled for 40,000

heat units. They are the ones imported from God knows where: Egypt, China,

and so on. These are the ones to stay away from.

The companies pay around $2 per pound for this kind of cayenne.Compare that

to the up-to-$20 per pound I have paid for the great, organically-grown

stuff.

You can't go by labels. I had a bunch of cayenne yesterday that was just

garbage - but the label was impressive. It claimed a 90,000 heat unit, which

is high for cayenne pepper in healthfood stores. Cayenne pepper is usually

40, 60 or 70. But I would have rated this stuff at more like 8,000 - or

5,000. It barely warmed my mouth.

A lot of people claim high heat on particular cayennes. But when you taste

them, they are really pathetic. So there is some real garbage out there that

is not going to help anybody.

P.M.

Cayenne

>The video series that features cayenne as all-purpose miracle healing herb

>is by Dr. Schulze, who *still* doesn't have his website up.

>800-HERB-DOC will get you a product list and a sample of his newsletter.

>

>www.frontiercoop.com has 90,000HU cayenne for therapeutic applications by

>the pound at the best prices I have found. They offer organic and a

>non-organic. I use both as we use a lot of cayenne for gardening purposes

>and to keep the neighbors cats from crapping in my flower beds. The bugs

>and the cats don't need organic.

>

>Dr. Schulze has a number of formulations using cayenne and they are potent

!

>I used his eyebright formula for several months and saw a dramatic

>improvement in vision.

>

>~jackie~

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Vilik Rapheles wrote:

> Deb,

>

> You and me...we sure have tried it all, haven't we. <grin>

I'd say so girl:)!!!

>

> there was a period where I though dried cayenne was burning my

> intestines too...even though it's not supposed to.

>

> What made you think it increased gut permeablity?

I have such a leaky gut that I can gauge it by how bad my body

odor is. Very scarey and very annoying.

>

> 40ooo IU's...oh baby stuff! Maybe it was too WEAK...heheheh....

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jackie wrote:

> Bill: thanks for the links on cayenne. But for some reason I

> couldn't open them. Some error message that said " no longer there " .

> I tried the second ones you posted too. Same results.

....just found out what happened... from the GREAT web site :

http://healingtools.tripod.com

Quote:

" NOTE: ALL of my Newsletters with Sam Biser's Copyrighted

Information of Dr. Schulze and others have been REMOVED,

since I received a CEASE and DESIST Order from Sam Biser's Attorney!

You can see the Links to Dr. Schulze's Own Information, which is

NOT Sam Biser's, on my LINKS S - Z Page... "

Here's the shortcut, re: Dr. Schulze's videos, herbs, etc. :

http://healingtools.tripod.com/drschres.html

These are the three main Site Directory pages :

http://healingtools.tripod.com/linksa.html

http://healingtools.tripod.com/linksi.html

http://healingtools.tripod.com/linkss.html

Bill

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Bill,

That is Tom Harrelson's site. He used to be a member of this list. He is a good

man to do business with, and he has some interesting products I haven't found

elsewhere. I especially like his " aranizer " glass thing I use with my ozonator.

jim :)

Bill Kingsbury wrote:

> jackie wrote:

> > Bill: thanks for the links on cayenne. But for some reason I

> > couldn't open them. Some error message that said " no longer there " .

> > I tried the second ones you posted too. Same results.

>

> ...just found out what happened... from the GREAT web site :

> http://healingtools.tripod.com

> Quote:

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The " aranizer " is the ozone generator. The glass thing is from professional

aromatherapy devices .

P.M.

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>Bill,

>

>That is Tom Harrelson's site. He used to be a member of this list. He is a

good man to do business with, and he has some interesting products I haven't

found elsewhere. I especially like his " aranizer " glass thing I use with my

ozonator.

>

>jim :)

>

>Bill Kingsbury wrote:

>

>> jackie wrote:

>> > Bill: thanks for the links on cayenne. But for some reason I

>> > couldn't open them. Some error message that said " no longer there " .

>> > I tried the second ones you posted too. Same results.

>>

>> ...just found out what happened... from the GREAT web site :

>> http://healingtools.tripod.com

>> Quote:

>

>--

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>

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>

>

>

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,

I stand corrected. I do like the thing & would like to know its name. I use it

to make an ozonated mist for inhaling essential oils that have been ozonized.

jim :)

Marino wrote:

> The " aranizer " is the ozone generator. The glass thing is from professional

> aromatherapy devices .

>

> P.M.

> Re: Cayenne

>

> >Bill,

> >

> >That is Tom Harrelson's site. He used to be a member of this list. He is a

> good man to do business with, and he has some interesting products I haven't

> found elsewhere. I especially like his " aranizer " glass thing I use with my

> ozonator.

> >

> >jim :)

> >

> >Bill Kingsbury wrote:

> >

> >> jackie wrote:

> >> > Bill: thanks for the links on cayenne. But for some reason I

> >> > couldn't open them. Some error message that said " no longer there " .

> >> > I tried the second ones you posted too. Same results.

> >>

> >> ...just found out what happened... from the GREAT web site :

> >> http://healingtools.tripod.com

> >> Quote:

> >

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> >

> >

> >

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Dr. Schulze recommends the liquid cayenne elixir or powder....

He says that it is much better than the capsules and has an explanation why

on his webpage.

KAT

Is taking capsules OK or do I need to take it in loose powder to be

effective?

Angelkat

" What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you are saying..... "

Ralph Waldo Emerson

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