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Thanks for the info about dairy. I used cayenne a number of years ago to

reduce my cholesterol ( it worked) but at the time was not doing any dairy.

Now of course Kefir is well into my daily regimen- so is cheese, I still do

the hot peppers but not as much and no cayenne capsules. Not sure how I

would work the cayenne back into my routine these days- kefir is just far too

important to give it up.

huggs

zoe

Thursday, November 9, 2006, 10:59:41 AM, you wrote:

> Alobar and others-

> I bought a pound of Cayenne powder from herbalcom.com about 3 years ago.

> Then, they only had one kind and I don't know what the heat units were, all

> I know is that it's HOT. Now they have more choices including a certified

> organic with 90,000 heat units.

> At first I tried using it in capsules. Man did it ever burn. I found I could

> cure that with kefir, but guess what? Cayenne is no good with dairy, the

> calcium binds the cayenne. You should not take cayenne within an hour of

> dairy before or after.

> About 3 months ago I was re-directed to the cayenne info at jcrows.com and I

> took the time to read it in depth and went with their recommendations- to

> mix it in water and drink it that way, first thing on rising, and later only

> on an empty stomach.

> I have had enormous benefit from it and now nearly daily find that my

> strength and stamina of both my heart and my entre musculature is greatly

> increased. It is indeed the king of herbs for my money. I could bore you to

> tears with the things I have found that I can do longer harder and better

> but try it for yourself and see.

> Some words of warning:

> Forget capsules. Take it only in water, but hot/warm water makes it both

> more effective and hotter; I prefer cold water.

> Do not make into a water based tincture or tea, do not leave it soaking in

> water, it does not do the same thing for you at all, make it fresh and drink

> it then.

> DO NOT OVERDO IT. Heed the advice to start with 1/8 teaspoon or less, and

> that it will take 18 months perhaps to get up to taking a teaspoon at a

> time. I am just now approaching 1/4 teaspoon. TOO MUCH WILL ABSOLUTELY GIVE

> YOU THE BENDS!!!

> Coffee chases it very nicely.

> Cayenne helps control appetite. I lost 6 pounds right away and kept it off.

> Daddybob

>

>

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LOL YUP I have often called it the Roto-Rooter of the circulatory system.

Really helps things

to get moving properly again.

Huggs

zoe

Thursday, November 9, 2006, 11:17:42 AM, you wrote:

> coconut oil open forumWell I tried some cayenne in water - last

> night and twice today so far. I must say it makes for interesting

> drinking LOL. BUT I can see how you could get hooked on it. It seems

> funny to say but I seem to have more energy today!!

> I kinda like the way I feel after I drink it. ANd it sure keeps the sinuses

clear!

> Belinda

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Daddybob, thanks for the info. you mentioned you got stronger. can i ask

what your problem was that went away by having the cayenne powder? i am

just asking because my problem is ulcerative colitis. i am in remissin, but

i ahve stopped taking medicine and dont' want to ever go back on it. so as

beneficial as it is, perhaps cayenne may not be the thing for me. seems it's

great for things like cholesterol/heart. do u know what other benefits it

has?

also, have you ever tried it with vco, as suggested by Dr. fife?

and do you drink kefir? i love kefir, usually have two cups a day. but i

guess thats' not a problem if you take the cayenne once a day in the

morning, and wait an hour after having the cayenne right?

thanks.

vandana in wash dc

On 11/9/06, ransley <ransley@...> wrote:

>

> Alobar and others-

>

> I bought a pound of Cayenne powder from herbalcom.com about 3 years ago.

> Then, they only had one kind and I don't know what the heat units were,

> all

> I know is that it's HOT. Now they have more choices including a certified

> organic with 90,000 heat units.

>

> At first I tried using it in capsules. Man did it ever burn. I found I

> could

> cure that with kefir, but guess what? Cayenne is no good with dairy, the

> calcium binds the cayenne. You should not take cayenne within an hour of

> dairy before or after.

>

> About 3 months ago I was re-directed to the cayenne info at jcrows.com and

> I

> took the time to read it in depth and went with their recommendations- to

> mix it in water and drink it that way, first thing on rising, and later

> only

> on an empty stomach.

>

> I have had enormous benefit from it and now nearly daily find that my

> strength and stamina of both my heart and my entre musculature is greatly

> increased. It is indeed the king of herbs for my money. I could bore you

> to

> tears with the things I have found that I can do longer harder and better

> but try it for yourself and see.

>

> Some words of warning:

> Forget capsules. Take it only in water, but hot/warm water makes it both

> more effective and hotter; I prefer cold water.

> Do not make into a water based tincture or tea, do not leave it soaking in

> water, it does not do the same thing for you at all, make it fresh and

> drink

> it then.

>

> DO NOT OVERDO IT. Heed the advice to start with 1/8 teaspoon or less, and

> that it will take 18 months perhaps to get up to taking a teaspoon at a

> time. I am just now approaching 1/4 teaspoon. TOO MUCH WILL ABSOLUTELY

> GIVE

> YOU THE BENDS!!!

>

> Coffee chases it very nicely.

>

> Cayenne helps control appetite. I lost 6 pounds right away and kept it

> off.

>

> Daddybob

>

>

>

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Is there a link that gives the benifits of Cayenne. This sounds to

good to miss out on.

My problem would be that my stomach cant handle hot stuff. I used to

love curry,but now my poor gut cant handle it for some reason.

Any links info about this appreciated.

And what about a good supplier ?

I had to laugh when you said 90,000 heat units..I miss read it as

90,000 BTU's...he he.

Daddybob...please bore us with the details !!

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Daddybob

i'm interested in the fact you said it helped muscularity? and made

you stronger.

How does it do that? If it does that i will definately carry on

taking it. Do you still get some benefits from the supermarket

variety or has it got to be strong stuff to get muscles stronger. It's

getting cold here now. So i think its a great winter warmer. I'm

going to put it in herbal fruit teas, is this okay.

Sally

> Is there a link that gives the benifits of Cayenne. This sounds to

> good to miss out on.

> My problem would be that my stomach cant handle hot stuff. I used to

> love curry,but now my poor gut cant handle it for some reason.

> Any links info about this appreciated.

>

> And what about a good supplier ?

>

> I had to laugh when you said 90,000 heat units..I miss read it as

> 90,000 BTU's...he he.

>

> Daddybob...please bore us with the details !!

>

>

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Here is a good site on Cayenne:

http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20030509.htm

If you do a google on " Dr. " Cayenne

you will get a lot of interesting hits.

Alobar

On 11/9/06, k8teeth <stonesigns@...> wrote:

> Is there a link that gives the benifits of Cayenne. This sounds to

> good to miss out on.

> My problem would be that my stomach cant handle hot stuff. I used to

> love curry,but now my poor gut cant handle it for some reason.

> Any links info about this appreciated.

>

> And what about a good supplier ?

>

> I had to laugh when you said 90,000 heat units..I miss read it as

> 90,000 BTU's...he he.

>

> Daddybob...please bore us with the details !!

>

>

>

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I am curious why you all say NO Capsules ?

Capsules are what I used and they did the job quite effectively.

huggs

zoe

Thursday, November 9, 2006, 10:59:41 AM, you wrote:

> Alobar and others-

> I bought a pound of Cayenne powder from herbalcom.com about 3 years ago.

> Then, they only had one kind and I don't know what the heat units were, all

> I know is that it's HOT. Now they have more choices including a certified

> organic with 90,000 heat units.

> At first I tried using it in capsules. Man did it ever burn. I found I could

> cure that with kefir, but guess what? Cayenne is no good with dairy, the

> calcium binds the cayenne. You should not take cayenne within an hour of

> dairy before or after.

> About 3 months ago I was re-directed to the cayenne info at jcrows.com and I

> took the time to read it in depth and went with their recommendations- to

> mix it in water and drink it that way, first thing on rising, and later only

> on an empty stomach.

> I have had enormous benefit from it and now nearly daily find that my

> strength and stamina of both my heart and my entre musculature is greatly

> increased. It is indeed the king of herbs for my money. I could bore you to

> tears with the things I have found that I can do longer harder and better

> but try it for yourself and see.

> Some words of warning:

> Forget capsules. Take it only in water, but hot/warm water makes it both

> more effective and hotter; I prefer cold water.

> Do not make into a water based tincture or tea, do not leave it soaking in

> water, it does not do the same thing for you at all, make it fresh and drink

> it then.

> DO NOT OVERDO IT. Heed the advice to start with 1/8 teaspoon or less, and

> that it will take 18 months perhaps to get up to taking a teaspoon at a

> time. I am just now approaching 1/4 teaspoon. TOO MUCH WILL ABSOLUTELY GIVE

> YOU THE BENDS!!!

> Coffee chases it very nicely.

> Cayenne helps control appetite. I lost 6 pounds right away and kept it off.

> Daddybob

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Hi Alobar,

I had a close look at this reference. I don't feel comfortable with it since

this text is all but scientific.

I still remain believing that the best Cayenne for the heart is produced by

Porsche.....

s

Re: Re: Cayenne

Here is a good site on Cayenne:

http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20030509.htm

If you do a google on " Dr. " Cayenne

you will get a lot of interesting hits.

Alobar

On 11/9/06, k8teeth <stonesigns@...> wrote:

> Is there a link that gives the benifits of Cayenne. This sounds to

> good to miss out on.

> My problem would be that my stomach cant handle hot stuff. I used to

> love curry,but now my poor gut cant handle it for some reason.

> Any links info about this appreciated.

>

> And what about a good supplier ?

>

> I had to laugh when you said 90,000 heat units..I miss read it as

> 90,000 BTU's...he he.

>

> Daddybob...please bore us with the details !!

>

>

>

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If the mouth can taste the cayenne, the stomach is prepared to receive

it. If one tastes the cayenne, one will not take in too much. One

can get very bad stomach pain from cayenne capsules, especially if one

takes a lot.

Alobar

On 11/9/06, zoe w <herebedragons@...> wrote:

> I am curious why you all say NO Capsules ?

> Capsules are what I used and they did the job quite effectively.

> huggs

> zoe

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The other day, I painted a bedroom for six hours, and am having a lot of neck

pain from all the stretching and ladder work. This morning I took some cayenne

tincture and lathered it on my neck, massaging it all in, and it really has

helped the soreness and pain. I think cayenne and coconut oil are two of the

most underrated things in the world!

W

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>

> I now eat 2-4 (depending on size) crushed raw garlic cloves a day.

> It goes vey well with cayenne.

>

> Alobar

>

> I LOVE EATING GARLIC THAT IS STUFFED IN THOSE LARGE GREEN OLIVES

THAT YOU CAN FIND IN THE HEALTH FOOD STORES, PAINLESS AND OH SO YUMMY!

I SERVE THEM MOST MEALS. IF I FIND THE JARS ON SALE I ABOUT BUY THE

STORE OUT. SUSIE

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Cayenne increases blood flow so your brain may be getting more oxygen

than usual. Also, cayenne increases the impact of other herbs, so if

you use caffeine, it may be having a stronger effect on you than

usual.

Alobar

On 11/17/06, Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote:

> Helloo:

>

> I find Cayenne very stimulating and keeps me hyped up for hours. Is that a

normal reaction? I don't react normally to a lot of things.

>

> Bonnie

>

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Not Bonnie, but Im using a very low heat one and I still get the buzz, its

wonderful when Im working- gets me thru the most difficult of days. I don't do

caffeine at all so Im sure its just the cayenne putting oxygen into my blood

and brain cells.

huggs

zoe

Saturday, November 18, 2006, 1:58:42 PM, you wrote:

> Hey Bonnie,

> What heat do you take and how much ? Im wondering also if others get

> this 'buzz'? ive heard some do. .

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How are y’all ingesting the cayenne? Tincture or capsules?

Re: Re: Cayenne

Not Bonnie, but Im using a very low heat one and I still get the buzz, its

wonderful when Im working- gets me thru the most difficult of days. I don't

do caffeine at all so Im sure its just the cayenne putting oxygen into my

blood and brain cells.

huggs

zoe

Saturday, November 18, 2006, 1:58:42 PM, you wrote:

> Hey Bonnie,

> What heat do you take and how much ? Im wondering also if others get

> this 'buzz'? ive heard some do. .

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I have been on high-dose cayenne for a few weeks now. I went thru

over half a pound of 90,000 shu cayenne in less than 10 days. I am

now using a bit less of the 130,000 shu cayenne. My other

supplements (especially Alpha Lippoic Acid, Benfortamine, and Acetyl

L-Carnitine) have given me a buzz for quite a while now, so I have not

noted any additional buzz from cayenne. Since taking cayenne, I tend

to sleep more soundly and have to break sleep less often to empty my

bladder.

Alobar

On 11/18/06, k8teeth <stonesigns@...> wrote:

> Hey Bonnie,

> What heat do you take and how much ? Im wondering also if others get

> this 'buzz'? ive heard some do. .

>

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BUZZ from taking supplements? Is that like a wired feeling like one would get

from coffee? I get no buzz from anything I take.

Also, where do you purchase your cayenne powder?

Thanks & Love,

Pamela

Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote:

I have been on high-dose cayenne for a few weeks now. I went thru

over half a pound of 90,000 shu cayenne in less than 10 days. I am

now using a bit less of the 130,000 shu cayenne. My other

supplements (especially Alpha Lippoic Acid, Benfortamine, and Acetyl

L-Carnitine) have given me a buzz for quite a while now, so I have not

noted any additional buzz from cayenne. Since taking cayenne, I tend

to sleep more soundly and have to break sleep less often to empty my

bladder.

Alobar

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Reply to Alobar,

'Holy hot bums batman' a pound in 10 days ???

You said " I tend to sleep more soundly and have to break sleep less

often to empty my bladder. " this is because you are so hot its

evaporating from your body because of the heat.

how long did it take to work up to that amount ?

Are you getting your fire powder from Jcrow ?

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Not like coffee. More like feeling younger and more adventurous.

Below is a pullquote and URL for the article which prompted me to try

ALC and ALA. The URL to the info on Benfotiamine no longer works, so

to find out more about Benfotiamine, check out my blog where I posted

the article 2 yeqars ago.

http://alobar.livejournal.com/1038393.html

-------------------

A team of researchers led by Bruce N. Ames, professor of molecular and

cell biology at UC Berkeley, fed older rats two chemicals normally

found in the body's cells and available as dietary supplements:

acetyl-L-carnitine and an antioxidant, alpha-lipoic acid.

In three articles in the February 19 issue of Proceedings of the

National Academy of Sciences, Ames and his colleagues report the

surprising results. Not only did the older rats do better on memory

tests, they had more pep, and the energy-producing organelles in their

cells worked better.

" With the two supplements together, these old rats got up and did the

Macarena, " said Ames, also a researcher at Children's Hospital Oakland

Research Institute (CHORI). " The brain looks better, they are full of

energy - everything we looked at looks more like a young animal. "

" The animals seem to have much more vigor and are much more active

than animals not on this diet, signaling massive improvement to these

animals' health and well-being, " said former UC Berkeley post-doctoral

fellow Tory M. Hagen, now an assistant professor at the Linus ing

Institute at Oregon State University, Corvallis. " And we also see a

reversal in loss of memory. That is a dual-track improvement that is

significant and unique. This is really starting to explode and move

out of the realm of basic research into people. "

http://nootropics.com/acetylcarnitine/rejuvenation.html

------------------------

I get my Cayenne from WFN. Good people and good quality. Probably

other good places to buy cayenne from, but I like WFN.

http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD & Produ\

ct_Code=PE3205AH & Category_Code=

Alobar

On 11/18/06, Pamela <calblonde1@...> wrote:

> BUZZ from taking supplements? Is that like a wired feeling like one would

get from coffee? I get no buzz from anything I take.

>

> Also, where do you purchase your cayenne powder?

>

> Thanks & Love,

> Pamela

>

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Hon, Im thinking that is a temporary reaction. The cayenne is one of the most

important things you can do for your body, especially if you have heart disease

or even the symptoms. Strongly suggest you try it again, and give it a chance

to finish detoxing your body. Im sure the sleeplessness will go away in time.

I use it a lot and no longer find that it keeps me awake.

huggs

zoe

Thursday, November 30, 2006, 4:40:13 PM, you wrote:

> I don't know if you all will remember but I was complaining that

> the VCO kept me hyped up and awake most of the night, so I had to cut back.

> WRONG!!!

> It was the Cayenne and I had to give it up. Just one MILD Cayenne

> pill in the morning, was a problem.

> It was really helping the heart disease symptoms, so that was a

disappointment.

> Bonnie

>

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I would stay way from cayenne in pills or capsules. Use in food or

make a cayenne tea. You can start slowly and work your way up to a

large dose as you get used to it.

Alobar

On 11/30/06, Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote:

> I don't know if you all will remember but I was complaining that the VCO kept

me hyped up and awake most of the night, so I had to cut back.

>

> WRONG!!!

>

> It was the Cayenne and I had to give it up. Just one MILD Cayenne pill in the

morning, was a problem.

>

> It was really helping the heart disease symptoms, so that was a

disappointment.

>

> Bonnie

>

>

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Im having trouble using it because it burns my throat. Im on the 40-

60,000 heat and thats nothing. Im taking 3/4 of a 1/4 teaspoon twice

daily in water.

But it is raising my body temp which what I wanted. VCO never did this

for me. I even had a fever in the middle of the day that lasted 4

hours. I felt like I was on fire. I did feel better than usual the next

day.

Im sticking with it though. Maybe I'll get use to the heat soon.

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Cayenne tea gets easier to take if the cayenne is boiled in water for

10 minutes, then allowed to sit. I make up 2 quarts at a time, then

store in the refrigerator until I need it. Also -- I sip the tea,

rather than chugging it down. Sipping the tea followed by a sip of

cold water also helps.

Alobar

On 12/1/06, k8teeth <stonesigns@...> wrote:

> Im having trouble using it because it burns my throat. Im on the 40-

> 60,000 heat and thats nothing. Im taking 3/4 of a 1/4 teaspoon twice

> daily in water.

>

> But it is raising my body temp which what I wanted. VCO never did this

> for me. I even had a fever in the middle of the day that lasted 4

> hours. I felt like I was on fire. I did feel better than usual the next

> day.

>

> Im sticking with it though. Maybe I'll get use to the heat soon.

>

>

>

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Bonnie-

It's your business but I'd never give up that easy, especially if you were

already seeing cardiac benefits. Cayenne is WAY too important to me not to

find ways to deal with any downside.

Consider:

You took it in capsules. That never caused me anything but trouble. You may

be bypassing an important digestion process by doing that which may be at

the root of the over-stimulation problem. I urge you not to do that. I

suggest mixing only 1/8 teaspoon (or less) in cold water first thing in the

morning, then leave it alone the rest of the day. See if that plays out

differently; if it does, you'll be on your way to building a tolerance. BTW,

after getting used to it, you can try the same amount in warm/hot water

before moving up in quantity. It is stronger in warmer water. I suggest

starting out with cold.

Maybe try oleoresin of cayenne/capsicum, available from Jcrows, Dr. Schulze

or Ebay. That is the essential oil, and might be devoid of some other

ingredient that over-stimulates you. I have not tried this yet myself, just

a thought.

About making it into a tea, this is not to disagree with Alobar, but making

it into a tea makes me nauseous. I have to drink it as soon as I mix it. If

it sets for several minutes, I can't stand it.

Try putting some in a shaker and maybe lightly spicing breakfast or lunch

with it, but not using it after lunch. I cover up my breakfast in hot sauce,

and often my lunch, but not my supper. If I eat a pepper-hot meal late, I'll

be up late. I have used cayenne along with coffee to stay alert late.

If you can't take cayenne in water, or on food, try building up your hot

tolerance with mild hot sauces on food. Just don't start out with Tabasco or

anything with bragging phrases or flames on the label. Hot sauces, no matter

how hot they are, are still not as hot as the straight powder.

Daddybob

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