Baking soda? & Immune system?

[Guest guest]

Hello and thank you everyone and Bee again for your help. I am on the

program...How long is the average time to build up the immune system?

How about the dr. with the cancer/baking soda protocol? I read about

him and watched a video about him. Interesting! So is baking soda used

somehow to get rid of candida? I thought I read that here somewhere or

some kind of baking soda treatment. Or was that some kind of external

thing?

another question. I understand that md drs have not been much help with

candida and all as I have experienced also. But is there some kind of

test that they have done to pinpoint candida in the body? I know that

some good MD drs. do recognize it, but what tests do the good ones do?

thank you again!

Love in Christ,

Lori

[Guest guest]

Hi Lori! Please read the files that were sent to you when you

joined, because they answer most of your questions. First, Bee no

longer recommends baking soda treatments for candida, because the

sodium in the baking soda can throw off mineral balances in your

body. There's no need to risk things like that when following the

program as it is will cure your candida.

Most medical doctors don't recognize candida and there aren't any

really reliable tests for it. Take Dr. Crooks questionnaire (you'll

find it in the files), as it's more accurate than anything else out

there.

The average time to build up your immune system is... it takes one

month of natural healing for every year you've been sick with

candida/compromised immune system. In my case, I'm 40, so it will

take me around 3.5 years on the program. Seems like a long time now,

but as I have a LOT of living yet to do, it would be wonderful to

live life the way it is supposed to be lived.

Doug

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> Hello and thank you everyone and Bee again for your help. I am on

the

> program...How long is the average time to build up the immune

system?

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello and thank you everyone and Bee again for your help. I am on

the

> program...How long is the average time to build up the immune

system?

>

> How about the dr. with the cancer/baking soda protocol? I read

about

> him and watched a video about him. Interesting! So is baking soda

used

> somehow to get rid of candida? I thought I read that here somewhere

or

> some kind of baking soda treatment. Or was that some kind of

external

> thing?

>

> another question. I understand that md drs have not been much help

with

> candida and all as I have experienced also. But is there some kind

of

> test that they have done to pinpoint candida in the body? I know

that

> some good MD drs. do recognize it, but what tests do the good ones

do?

==>Hi Lori. Welcome to our group. Like Doug wrote, the baking soda

protocol is not recommended for 2 reasons: 1) it is highly antifungal

and creates die-off symptoms that may become intolerable, and 2) it

is high in sodium so it throws off mineral balances in the body. It

is much better to start with coconut oil as an antifungal, which is

an integral part of the diet.

To build up your immune system it takes 1 month of natural healing

for every year you've been unwell. For most people nowadays that is

since before birth. The timing starts once you are completely on the

diet and taking all of the supplements.

There are no conclusive tests for candida; my article explains the

reasons, and it provides a Questionnaire which is the best test. See

these articles on Candida:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu2.php

Once you've read we are here to answer your questions and help you.

Your journey towards health begins by reading and learning.

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

Thank you Bee & Doug! I am sorry I keep asking about links. Brain fog

as I cannot find things and lose things...

I understand about the baking soda orally then. Maybe I will try just

a spec in water sometime. Not sure.

What about it in the bath then with epson salts? Have women douched

with it? I have had pap smears that were off only because of

inflammation & my naturopath and I thought it was from the candida.

If baking soda cures cancer that was really yeast, then maybe it

would work with endometriosis?

What about endometriosis? Sure seems to be a link. I have an endo

website and am asking women to check out your site as many have

candida and I have been saying that it may be the reason for it in

many cases.. I have been asking them to please build up their immune

systems as it is an auto-immune disease.

Can I use a few of your articles Bee with giving the link address

here? I could not find your email address to ask you.

I do understand that Dr. crooks test is very good. But I also had a

stool test from my naturopath that confirmed candida(but we already

knew that I had it) and gave an indication to how bad it was, but I

thought perhaps there was a test at the MD drs. that it might or

might not show up on???? I know that it may not be all that

conclusive, but they must have some kind of indicator for it. Do you

know about this? How do they know when it has invaded organs? Only

when someone has died or when they see it during an operation? sorry

to be glum, just need to know and worried sometimes that it has

invaded all of my body. I also heard a friend tell me that someone

was in bad shape years ago because she had a fungus around one of her

organs(can't remember exactly). How did they know this?

God Bless you!

Lori

> >

> > Hello and thank you everyone and Bee again for your help. I am on

> the

> > program...How long is the average time to build up the immune

> system?

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Thank you Bee & Doug! I am sorry I keep asking about links. Brain

fog as I cannot find things and lose things...

==>Hi Jo. There's a fabulous search engine on my website which makes

it so easy to find things!

> I understand about the baking soda orally then. Maybe I will try

just a spec in water sometime. Not sure.

==>Only take some baking soda if your stomach gets a burning feeling -

take 1/4 tsp. in warm water and sip slowly.

> What about it in the bath then with epson salts? Have women

douched with it? I have had pap smears that were off only because of

> inflammation & my naturopath and I thought it was from the candida.

> If baking soda cures cancer that was really yeast, then maybe it

> would work with endometriosis?

==>The only way to cure malfunctions caused by candida, bacteria,

poor nutrition, too many toxins, etc. is by building up the immune

system so the body becomes strong enough to " heal itself " .

>

> What about endometriosis? Sure seems to be a link. I have an endo

> website and am asking women to check out your site as many have

> candida and I have been saying that it may be the reason for it in

> many cases.. I have been asking them to please build up their

immune systems as it is an auto-immune disease.

>

> Can I use a few of your articles Bee with giving the link address

> here? I could not find your email address to ask you.

==>My email address is on my messages here which is:

beeisbuzzing2003@... - please email me about specific articles.

>

> I do understand that Dr. crooks test is very good. But I also had a

> stool test from my naturopath that confirmed candida(but we already

> knew that I had it) and gave an indication to how bad it was, but I

> thought perhaps there was a test at the MD drs. that it might or

> might not show up on???? I know that it may not be all that

> conclusive, but they must have some kind of indicator for it. Do

you know about this? How do they know when it has invaded organs?

Only when someone has died or when they see it during an operation?

sorry to be glum, just need to know and worried sometimes that it

has invaded all of my body. I also heard a friend tell me that

someone was in bad shape years ago because she had a fungus around

one of her organs(can't remember exactly). How did they know this?

==>It is the candida toxins that cause the damage since most of the

candida overgrowth is in the digestive system. Candida is only

intended to change into an overgrowing monster when the body dies so

it can go into action and break the body down into dust. So the

toxins are very powerful. I knew a lady who had brain lesions and

after 2 years on the candida program there were none.

The fact is that this program will improve anyone's health whether

they have candida or not. Also see Dr. Jan K's Optimal Diet that he

has been using for over 30 years to cure people of cancer, diabetes,

heart disease, asthma, etc., etc.: http://homodiet.netfirms.com/

Jo, please read my main article " How to Successfully Overcome

Candida " thoroughly - it will answer most of your questions:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu2_8.php

Bee

[Guest guest]

take sea salt along with baking soda to keep the minerals blanced its that

simple i would rather have a mineral imblance than cancer

pepperwatsonblue

hopefullori <hopefullori@...> wrote: Thank you Bee & Doug! I am

sorry I keep asking about links. Brain fog

as I cannot find things and lose things...

I understand about the baking soda orally then. Maybe I will try just

a spec in water sometime. Not sure.

What about it in the bath then with epson salts? Have women douched

with it? I have had pap smears that were off only because of

inflammation & my naturopath and I thought it was from the candida.

If baking soda cures cancer that was really yeast, then maybe it

would work with endometriosis?

What about endometriosis? Sure seems to be a link. I have an endo

website and am asking women to check out your site as many have

candida and I have been saying that it may be the reason for it in

many cases.. I have been asking them to please build up their immune

systems as it is an auto-immune disease.

Can I use a few of your articles Bee with giving the link address

here? I could not find your email address to ask you.

I do understand that Dr. crooks test is very good. But I also had a

stool test from my naturopath that confirmed candida(but we already

knew that I had it) and gave an indication to how bad it was, but I

thought perhaps there was a test at the MD drs. that it might or

might not show up on???? I know that it may not be all that

conclusive, but they must have some kind of indicator for it. Do you

know about this? How do they know when it has invaded organs? Only

when someone has died or when they see it during an operation? sorry

to be glum, just need to know and worried sometimes that it has

invaded all of my body. I also heard a friend tell me that someone

was in bad shape years ago because she had a fungus around one of her

organs(can't remember exactly). How did they know this?

God Bless you!

Lori

> >

> > Hello and thank you everyone and Bee again for your help. I am on

> the

> > program...How long is the average time to build up the immune

> system?

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

>

> take sea salt along with baking soda to keep the minerals blanced

its that simple i would rather have a mineral imblance than cancer

==>Bill, Dr. Simoncini states that baking soda should never be taken as

a preventative to cancer, and taking baking soda plus ocean sea salt is

too much sodium which causes mineral and water imbalances!!!

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

Several of your recent postings address baking soda/sodium throwing off

mineral balances. I'd be interested in reading the reference article

about this, but can't find it in the posts or files. Can you provide a

link? Thanks in advance.

Tess

> >

> > take sea salt along with baking soda to keep the minerals blanced

> its that simple i would rather have a mineral imblance than cancer

>

> ==>Bill, Dr. Simoncini states that baking soda should never be taken

as

> a preventative to cancer, and taking baking soda plus ocean sea salt

is

> too much sodium which causes mineral and water imbalances!!!

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

I did end up taking a tiny bit in a glass of water and putting it in

my bath with the epson salt. I was wiped out the next day as usual

with any type of fungul killer. It always feels like a type of fever

the next day or something like that-clammy hot feeling.

thank you for your help!!

another question I have. I am on the immune system program here

now...but it seems like the last few years that whenever I stop an

antifungal for a day or so-it seems to go crazy with itching in my

nose. It just seems that the itching nose and sensitivities to all

things gets worse and worse. I am doing the garlic/sinus thing...

Love to you all,

Lori

> > >

> > > take sea salt along with baking soda to keep the minerals

blanced

> > its that simple i would rather have a mineral imblance than

cancer

> >

> > ==>Bill, Dr. Simoncini states that baking soda should never be

taken

> as

> > a preventative to cancer, and taking baking soda plus ocean sea

salt

> is

> > too much sodium which causes mineral and water imbalances!!!

> >

> > Bee

> >

>

[Guest guest]

and taking baking soda plus ocean sea salt is

> too much sodium which causes mineral and water imbalances!!!

>

> Bee

>

Hi Bee, I'm still taking about 1/4 tsp. baking soda with each dose of

vitamin c as I enjoy drinking it that way. This means I get a total of

3/4 - 1 tsp. of baking soda a day. Can I still take the 1 1/2 tsp.

ocean sea salt a day or would all that be too much sodium.

Thanks, Anita

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> Several of your recent postings address baking soda/sodium throwing

off

> mineral balances. I'd be interested in reading the reference article

> about this, but can't find it in the posts or files. Can you provide

a

> link? Thanks in advance.

==>Hi Tess. There is no article about the baking soda/sodium throwing

off mineral balances. It is a fact that too much sodium does throw off

balance however, just like other minerals would if taken in high

amounts.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> I did end up taking a tiny bit in a glass of water and putting it

in

> my bath with the epson salt. I was wiped out the next day as usual

> with any type of fungul killer. It always feels like a type of

fever

> the next day or something like that-clammy hot feeling.

> thank you for your help!!

>

> another question I have. I am on the immune system program here

> now...but it seems like the last few years that whenever I stop an

> antifungal for a day or so-it seems to go crazy with itching in my

> nose. It just seems that the itching nose and sensitivities to all

> things gets worse and worse. I am doing the garlic/sinus thing...

==>Lori, could you possibly being taking too much or too many

antifungals, or some other herbs that are anti-inflammatory? The

reason I ask is because the itching indicates your immune system is

producing histamines, and that is a good thing. So it is possible

you may be doing too much, which has been suppressing the histamines,

i.e. too many teas or herbs or antifungals will suppress the immune

system. That is because " more is not better. "

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> and taking baking soda plus ocean sea salt is

> > too much sodium which causes mineral and water imbalances!!!

> >

> > Bee

> >

> Hi Bee, I'm still taking about 1/4 tsp. baking soda with each dose of

> vitamin c as I enjoy drinking it that way. This means I get a total of

> 3/4 - 1 tsp. of baking soda a day. Can I still take the 1 1/2 tsp.

> ocean sea salt a day or would all that be too much sodium.

> Thanks, Anita

==>Yes, that is still okay Anita. If you need to take more vitamin C

for constipation or something else however do not add the baking soda.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

> >

> > I did end up taking a tiny bit in a glass of water and putting it

> in

> > my bath with the epson salt. I was wiped out the next day as

usual

> > with any type of fungul killer. It always feels like a type of

> fever

> > the next day or something like that-clammy hot feeling.

> > thank you for your help!!

> >

> > another question I have. I am on the immune system program here

> > now...but it seems like the last few years that whenever I stop

an

> > antifungal for a day or so-it seems to go crazy with itching in

my

> > nose. It just seems that the itching nose and sensitivities to

all

> > things gets worse and worse. I am doing the garlic/sinus thing...

>

> ==>Lori, could you possibly being taking too much or too many

> antifungals, or some other herbs that are anti-inflammatory? The

> reason I ask is because the itching indicates your immune system is

> producing histamines, and that is a good thing. So it is possible

> you may be doing too much, which has been suppressing the

histamines,

> i.e. too many teas or herbs or antifungals will suppress the immune

> system. That is because " more is not better. "

>

> Luv, Bee

Thank for your reply Bee! Well, I do not know. I take 1-2 garlic

pills a day, eat coconut oil and take probiotics. The itching nose

has been going on for years-such a reaction to everything. It may be

getting better with the netty pot solution though. will see.

Do you mean that it is good that I have histamines because it shows

my immune system working? Is that what you mean? I do take some

things that are inflammatory. I have endometriosis and take fish oil

& evening primrose oil, beta glucan & vitamins that you suggest. The

endo is good-under control with natural progesterone cream, diet and

the like above. I just do not understand why I react so bad still

after all these years. It seems the candida is way better because I

do not get extreme nausea with antifungals & probiotics anymore(yuk)

but I do still react greatly to a spec of sugar. Not that I eat

sugar, but I occasionally test to see how I am and I can react to a

raisin with the sinus stuff.

Hope I made sense!

thank you again. Oh I also take iodine pills-iodoral because I was

tested to be very, very low in iodine. My doc said that many woman

with the endo are low and behold I was so low!

Lori

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[Guest guest]

>>

> Thank for your reply Bee! Well, I do not know. I take 1-2 garlic

> pills a day, eat coconut oil and take probiotics. The itching nose

> has been going on for years-such a reaction to everything. It may

be getting better with the netty pot solution though. will see.

>

> Do you mean that it is good that I have histamines because it shows

> my immune system working? Is that what you mean? I do take some

> things that are inflammatory. I have endometriosis and take fish

oil & evening primrose oil, beta glucan & vitamins that you suggest.

The endo is good-under control with natural progesterone cream, diet

and the like above.

==>Lori, it is not a wise idea to take progesterone cream - do a

search at www.mercola.com about it. It is a hormone and it will

interfere and cause you problems. It is better to only take the

supplements recommended, and not anything else of any kind except

some teas, therefore you shouldn't take the beta glucan either. I

suggest you re-check your supplements against my list. Also when you

take fish oil you need vitamin A as well, and you only take fish oil

IF you get enough sun exposure per my article, i.e. 85% of the body

for the length of time noted during the afternoon, etc.

> I just do not understand why I react so bad still after all these

years. It seems the candida is way better because I do not get

extreme nausea with antifungals & probiotics anymore(yuk)

> but I do still react greatly to a spec of sugar. Not that I eat

> sugar, but I occasionally test to see how I am and I can react to a

> raisin with the sinus stuff.

> Hope I made sense!

>

> thank you again. Oh I also take iodine pills-iodoral because I was

> tested to be very, very low in iodine. My doc said that many woman

> with the endo are low and behold I was so low!

==>I lost my thyroid due to taking iodine and thyroid pills when I

had candida over 20 years ago. Iodine is only required in " trace

amounts " and too much is just as damaging to the thyroid as too

little, and there is plenty of iodine on this diet and in the ocean

sea salt taken as recommended. If you take iodine it should only be

for very short periods of time, and then get re-tested.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for your reply. I have read a bit about what dr.

mercola has to say about the cream building up in the system, but I

have not experienced this at all as without the cream well you see

the pain is knife stabbing, so it certainly does not stay in the

system, but only about 24 hours it seems. For endometriosis it is the

only way for me to remain pain free & getting rid of the candida of

course. I have had endo for 30 years, so it is agonizing pain that is

unbearable that would have to be on narcotics for....I have been on

the cream for about 7 years.

I thank you for your reply and insight, but being without the cream

cannot be an option. It is my lifesaver and I am debilitated without

it. Been on many, many things for endo...and it is what works.

Yes I am taking vitamin A now too. Thank for your supplement list!

Love,

Lori

> >>

> > Thank for your reply Bee! Well, I do not know. I take 1-2 garlic

> > pills a day, eat coconut oil and take probiotics. The itching

nose

> > has been going on for years-such a reaction to everything. It may

> be getting better with the netty pot solution though. will see.

> >

> > Do you mean that it is good that I have histamines because it

shows

> > my immune system working? Is that what you mean? I do take some

> > things that are inflammatory. I have endometriosis and take fish

> oil & evening primrose oil, beta glucan & vitamins that you

suggest.

> The endo is good-under control with natural progesterone cream,

diet

> and the like above.

>

> ==>Lori, it is not a wise idea to take progesterone cream - do a

> search at www.mercola.com about it. It is a hormone and it will

> interfere and cause you problems. It is better to only take the

> supplements recommended, and not anything else of any kind except

> some teas, therefore you shouldn't take the beta glucan either. I

> suggest you re-check your supplements against my list. Also when

you

> take fish oil you need vitamin A as well, and you only take fish

oil

> IF you get enough sun exposure per my article, i.e. 85% of the body

> for the length of time noted during the afternoon, etc.

>

> > I just do not understand why I react so bad still after all these

> years. It seems the candida is way better because I do not get

> extreme nausea with antifungals & probiotics anymore(yuk)

> > but I do still react greatly to a spec of sugar. Not that I eat

> > sugar, but I occasionally test to see how I am and I can react to

a

> > raisin with the sinus stuff.

>

> > Hope I made sense!

> >

> > thank you again. Oh I also take iodine pills-iodoral because I

was

> > tested to be very, very low in iodine. My doc said that many

woman

> > with the endo are low and behold I was so low!

>

> ==>I lost my thyroid due to taking iodine and thyroid pills when I

> had candida over 20 years ago. Iodine is only required in " trace

> amounts " and too much is just as damaging to the thyroid as too

> little, and there is plenty of iodine on this diet and in the ocean

> sea salt taken as recommended. If you take iodine it should only

be

> for very short periods of time, and then get re-tested.

>

> Luv, Bee

>