Guest guest Report post Posted July 4, 2001 I've heard that about the bacterium. I was told that Hinckley & Schmidt water sometimes sits around in the jugs and grows bacteria. When I used to drink it I would try to keep the crock cleaned out real well, but would still notice a moldy taste sometimes. I haven't had it for a while. My brother now gets the H & S distilled water for his and I'm thinking about doing that. Right now I just buy distilled jugs at Wal-Mart. M. Parish, CPRW* (Certified Professional Resume Writer) Career Coach / Business Start-Up & Support Consultant CareerPlan, Inc., Premier Career, Business, and Life Planning Services TOLL FREE: (888) 449-2200; EMAIL: Resume@... Re: water > Unofrtunately we use tap and some bottled water. The budget it tight, Dhs > work is slow. We are planning no a move when our house sells. Up \state we > will be on spring water from Zephyrhills, not the company underground. Anyone > know anything about real spring water. I know I can have the county test it. > They have to test to give me well a passing grade for usage. > Val > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 9, 2001 We have a filter that also has a UV light on it...I think a charcoal filter also but it leaves beneficial things like calcium. I am really interested in getting a filter to filter out the chlorine as we get our water delivered. Laurie<Oh boldml@ cros.net " Example sheds a genial ray which men are apt to borrow,so first improve yourself today, and then your friends tomorrow. " Unknown " Let's not just transform those in need, we can also find ways to help transform those in power. " Unknown Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 9, 2001 we've been talking about a ceramic holder? Have to do more researching before we decide. We go through 5 gallons every 2-3 days. I am not a medical professional nor do I portray one on T.V. (but my husband,Mike,is!) Please visit our website www.goldenprideweb.com/drmikeandlaurie for natural vitamins,nutrients,and herbs. NEW!!! The FLORIDA DIET Also, to save time,space,taste, and waste, shop at www.my.tupperware.com/LaurieLand for your source of Tupperware products and recipes Laurie<Oh boldml@... mother to 5 birthgoddess to 3 VBAC's,including 1 complete waterbirth(way cool),BF and non-vaxxed,2 girls and 3 natural boys Since companies like Ozarka, no longer deliver water in glass bottles, I've settled for water from their thick plastic 5-gallon jugs. I don't taste the plastic in that water. Not saying some chemicals aren't there, but it is at least to a lesser degree. Perhaps if you could get hold of some Ozarka-type jugs? Kathleen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 24, 2001 Wonderful What happened? Has the sucker gone away? Never thought a fish could cause so much trouble!! It's Great News, > Hi everyone, > > I know this is a cholesteatoma website but I just have to > say " WOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO, WE'RE GETTING SOME WATER. " > > Kim knows what I'm talking about and if anyone else does, I'd be more > than happy to inform you of the tragedy taking place in the Klamath > Basin. > > Once again, " WOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOO, WE'RE GETTING SOME WATER!!!!! > > Michele > > PS - Maybe that sucker is slowly starting to return what he stole! > hehehehehehe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 24, 2001 No, the sucker didn't go away. The Bureau of Land Management decided that by the end of the summer there will be 1-2 feet more water than is necessary for sucker survival. BLM states that the lake level must be kept at 4139 to 4140 feet above see level. Thing is, when the lake is this high, the sucker start dying off at the end of the summer. They survive better when the lake level is low. The are a very hardy fish, similar in nature to the catfish meaning if there is no water, they burrow down into the mud and wait for water to come, and they survive! Bad thing is they are only releasing about 75,000 acre feet (about 1/6 what the farmers normally get) and about 10,000 acre feet will be used to charge the canal (whatever that means). Some of the farmers will get water, but not all. Not enough water will be released to make it to the end of the project. That means the first ever wildlife refuge in the US will still be dry. Then, after that 75,000 acre feet is released, they will close the canal. The farmers are not going to stand for that and I believe it's only a matter of time before it gets violent. Tensions are very high. On a funny note, in the federal compound which surrounds the headgates, somehow the farmers got a jackass over the fence. I went down there this morning to see all the feds leaning on a petting the jackass. Of course we all saw more than one jackass at that time. Sheep also got loose in the fed compound last week. You should have seen it. All the feds running around trying to round up sheep. They gave up and the sheep are still there. They've given us a bone to pacify us and think that now that water will be release we will disassemble Camp Headgate and go home. The farmers plan to stay throughout the winter if necessary so that they can get their water next year. A *ucker, I mean sucker fish. Can you believe it? Michele --- <melissa2541@...> wrote: > Wonderful > > What happened? Has the sucker gone away? Never > thought a fish could > cause so much trouble!! > > It's Great News, > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I know this is a cholesteatoma website but I just > have to > > say " WOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO, WE'RE GETTING SOME > WATER. " > > > > Kim knows what I'm talking about and if anyone > else does, I'd be > more > > than happy to inform you of the tragedy taking > place in the Klamath > > Basin. > > > > Once again, " WOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOO, WE'RE GETTING > SOME WATER!!!!! > > > > Michele > > > > PS - Maybe that sucker is slowly starting to > return what he stole! > > hehehehehehe > > ===== Call 911, some sucker just stole our water!!!!!! __________________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 3, 2001 It might be easier for you to just get a reverse osmosis system for your kitchen sink. It's installed underneath your sink. I've had one for almost 10 years now. My drinking water is great. karen water > hi O's!,, just saw someone on tv the other day saying that companies that > sell bottled water should be careful of their employees (re: germ warfare). > the guy on tv said that municipal water could be a better choice since it is > treated w/ chlorine which kills most things. So now I'm betwixt + > between... we use filtered water at home and I'm thinking about boiling it > 1st then refrigerating... is this what they do to make distilled water? > even though seltzer water is good for us o's I'm thinking that distilled > water is a good choice since it's alkaline and may work better to balance our > on-the-acid-side pH... thinking out loud here! > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 3, 2001 Hi Boiling water will kill most bacteria but will concentrate other chemicals in the water. A distiller catches the steam which would be free of most bacteria and chemicals. Maybe if it went through a good filter first and then boiled it would be pretty good. Household distillers (1 gal) sell usually for about $125 to $140. (Sears, etc) You really have to check into filters. Some are pretty worthless. KM --- lescase@... wrote: > hi O's!,, just saw someone on tv the other day > saying that companies that > sell bottled water should be careful of their > employees (re: germ warfare). > the guy on tv said that municipal water could be a > better choice since it is > treated w/ chlorine which kills most things. So > now I'm betwixt + > between... we use filtered water at home and I'm > thinking about boiling it > 1st then refrigerating... is this what they do to > make distilled water? > even though seltzer water is good for us o's I'm > thinking that distilled > water is a good choice since it's alkaline and may > work better to balance our > on-the-acid-side pH... thinking out loud here! > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 13, 2001 With all the messages about tea, and sodas recently, I thought I would send this message along, from a nurse friend of mine: 75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated. In 37% of Americans, the thirst mechanism is so weak that it is often mistaken for hunger. Even MILD dehydration will slow down one's metabolism as much as 3%. One glass of water shuts down midnight hunger pangs for almost 100%of the dieters studied in a U-Washington study. Lack of water is the #1 trigger of daytime fatigue. Preliminary research indicates that 8-10 glasses of water a day could significantly ease back and joint pain for up to 80% of sufferers. A mere 2% drop in body water can trigger fuzzy short-term memory,trouble with basic math, and difficulty focusing on the computer screen or ona printed page. Drinking 5 glasses of water daily decreases the risk of colon cancer by 45%, plus it can slash the risk of breast cancer by 79%, and one is 50% less likely to develop bladder cancer. Arlene Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 21, 2001 Tonic is different, just use club soda and seltzer. Right? I put some pineapple juice in with mostly seltzer/club soda. Yum. Is also good with black cherry juice. Or even a lemon squeeze. I usually have this with/after a beef meal to balance the sweet. E Long Hi Osss...wondering if tonic water club soda are the same as seltzer water? Does anybody have any good recipes for seltzer water? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 22, 2001 > Tonic is different, just use club soda and seltzer. Right? I went through this a few months ago when I needed to use one of these in a recipe. Tonic contains quinine to make it a bit bitter. Seltzer water is just carbonated water. Club soda is a clear carbonated soda used mainly for mixing. Seltzer water and club soda are the same, difference is primarily in marketing. My personal trainer advises caution when drinking carbonated water as some of them contain high amounts of sodium, something you may or may not need to caution. As an aside, some folks worry about carbonation & calcium loss. Turns out it's the caffeine, not the carbonation, that's to blame. In addition, a recent study found that the calcium loss from bones due to caffeine is short-term. The real culprit is the lack of calcium rich foods in the diet because they are quite frequently displaced by soft drinks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 27, 2001 Also...isn't quinine poisonous unless you are using ti to cure malaria?? -----Original Message----- > Tonic is different, just use club soda and seltzer. Right? I went through this a few months ago when I needed to use one of these in a recipe. Tonic contains quinine to make it a bit bitter. Seltzer water is just carbonated water. Club soda is a clear carbonated soda used mainly for mixing. Seltzer water and club soda are the same, difference is primarily in marketing. My personal trainer advises caution when drinking carbonated water as some of them contain high amounts of sodium, something you may or may not need to caution. As an aside, some folks worry about carbonation & calcium loss. Turns out it's the caffeine, not the carbonation, that's to blame. In addition, a recent study found that the calcium loss from bones due to caffeine is short-term. The real culprit is the lack of calcium rich foods in the diet because they are quite frequently displaced by soft drinks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 9, 2001 Dear Cliff, I've read this information before but I can remember that thers is also a website about water and cancer. do you know where I can find this site? Thank you in advance. Kees Braam webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl Water > > 75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated. In 37% of > Americans, the thirst mechanism is so weak that it is > often mistaken for hunger. & nbsp; Even MILD > dehydration will slow down one's metabolism as much as > 3%. > > One glass of water shuts down midnight hunger pangs for > almost 100% of the dieters studied in a U-Washington > study. & nbsp; & nbsp; Lack of water is the #1 trigger of > daytime fatigue. Preliminary research indicates that 8-10 > glasses of water a day could significantly ease back and > joint pain for up to 80% of sufferers. > > A mere 2% drop in body water can trigger fuzzy > short-term memory, trouble with basic math, and > difficulty focusing on the computer screen or on a > printed page. Drinking 5 glasses of water daily decreases > the risk of colon cancer by 45%, plus it can slash the > risk of breast cancer by 79%, and one is 50% less likely > to develop bladder cancer. > > Are you drinking the amount of water you should every > day? > > > Of course, too much water may have strange side effects > > > > > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 9, 2001 The watercure web site is http://www.watercure.com Kallie Water>> 75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated. In 37% of> Americans, the thirst mechanism is so weak that it is> often mistaken for hunger. & nbsp; Even MILD> dehydration will slow down one's metabolism as much as> 3%.>> One glass of water shuts down midnight hunger pangs for> almost 100% of the dieters studied in a U-Washington> study. & nbsp; & nbsp; Lack of water is the #1 trigger of> daytime fatigue. Preliminary research indicates that 8-10> glasses of water a day could significantly ease back and> joint pain for up to 80% of sufferers.>> A mere 2% drop in body water can trigger fuzzy> short-term memory, trouble with basic math, and> difficulty focusing on the computer screen or on a> printed page. Drinking 5 glasses of water daily decreases> the risk of colon cancer by 45%, plus it can slash the> risk of breast cancer by 79%, and one is 50% less likely> to develop bladder cancer.>> Are you drinking the amount of water you should every> day?>>> Of course, too much water may have strange side effects>>>>>>>>> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or byvisiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 9, 2001 Hi Kees, I don't know. I recieved this from an email and I believe it as I have read it before as well. Somewhere I have a booklet on healing with water by a doctor who was a prisoner of war and it is amazing. Others may have more specific information. Cliff Re: Water >Dear Cliff, > >I've read this information before but I can remember that thers is also a >website about water and cancer. do you know where I can find this site? > >Thank you in advance. >Kees Braam >webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl > Water > > >> >> 75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated. In 37% of >> Americans, the thirst mechanism is so weak that it is >> often mistaken for hunger. & nbsp; Even MILD >> dehydration will slow down one's metabolism as much as >> 3%. >> >> One glass of water shuts down midnight hunger pangs for >> almost 100% of the dieters studied in a U-Washington >> study. & nbsp; & nbsp; Lack of water is the #1 trigger of >> daytime fatigue. Preliminary research indicates that 8-10 >> glasses of water a day could significantly ease back and >> joint pain for up to 80% of sufferers. >> >> A mere 2% drop in body water can trigger fuzzy >> short-term memory, trouble with basic math, and >> difficulty focusing on the computer screen or on a >> printed page. Drinking 5 glasses of water daily decreases >> the risk of colon cancer by 45%, plus it can slash the >> risk of breast cancer by 79%, and one is 50% less likely >> to develop bladder cancer. >> >> Are you drinking the amount of water you should every >> day? >> >> >> Of course, too much water may have strange side effects >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. >Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by >visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv >> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 9, 2001 That doctor has a web site and has written books and sells videos which I have. The web site is www.watercure.com Kallie Water>>>>>> 75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated. In 37% of>> Americans, the thirst mechanism is so weak that it is>> often mistaken for hunger. & nbsp; Even MILD>> dehydration will slow down one's metabolism as much as>> 3%.>>>> One glass of water shuts down midnight hunger pangs for>> almost 100% of the dieters studied in a U-Washington>> study. & nbsp; & nbsp; Lack of water is the #1 trigger of>> daytime fatigue. Preliminary research indicates that 8-10>> glasses of water a day could significantly ease back and>> joint pain for up to 80% of sufferers.>>>> A mere 2% drop in body water can trigger fuzzy>> short-term memory, trouble with basic math, and>> difficulty focusing on the computer screen or on a>> printed page. Drinking 5 glasses of water daily decreases>> the risk of colon cancer by 45%, plus it can slash the>> risk of breast cancer by 79%, and one is 50% less likely>> to develop bladder cancer.>>>> Are you drinking the amount of water you should every>> day?>>>>>> Of course, too much water may have strange side effects>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.>Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by>visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 10, 2001 The book you are talking about and it is a very good book (Is it in Protocol 1?) is entitled, " Your Body's Many Cries For Water " by Ferrydoon Batmanghelidj, M. D. (Batman-ge-lij - 'hard G' ). And yes it is helpful in cancer as well. The good doctor has a book planned for the future that deals with only cancer. Melinda, make a note. Buy a copy so you can deal with clients who demand results for $50.00 or less. His other books,audio tapes and videos are available through Global Health Solutions,Inc. P.O.Box 3189, Falls Church, Va. 22043 USA Tel.: 703.848.2333 Fax: 703.848.2334 --- Cliff Beckwith <spinner@...> wrote: > Hi Kees, > > I don't know. I recieved this from an email and I > believe it as I have read > it before as well. > > Somewhere I have a booklet on healing with water by > a doctor who was a > prisoner of war and it is amazing. > > Others may have more specific information. > > Cliff > > Re: Water > > > >Dear Cliff, > > > >I've read this information before but I can > remember that thers is also a > >website about water and cancer. do you know where I > can find this site? > > > >Thank you in advance. > >Kees Braam > >webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl > > Water > > > > > >> > >> 75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated. In > 37% of > >> Americans, the thirst mechanism is so weak that > it is > >> often mistaken for hunger. & nbsp; Even MILD > >> dehydration will slow down one's metabolism as > much as > >> 3%. > >> > >> One glass of water shuts down midnight hunger > pangs for > >> almost 100% of the dieters studied in a > U-Washington > >> study. & nbsp; & nbsp; Lack of water is the #1 > trigger of > >> daytime fatigue. Preliminary research indicates > that 8-10 > >> glasses of water a day could significantly ease > back and > >> joint pain for up to 80% of sufferers. > >> > >> A mere 2% drop in body water can trigger fuzzy > >> short-term memory, trouble with basic math, and > >> difficulty focusing on the computer screen or on > a > >> printed page. Drinking 5 glasses of water daily > decreases > >> the risk of colon cancer by 45%, plus it can > slash the > >> risk of breast cancer by 79%, and one is 50% less > likely > >> to develop bladder cancer. > >> > >> Are you drinking the amount of water you should > every > >> day? > >> > >> > >> Of course, too much water may have strange side > effects > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and > post your own links there. > >Unsubscribe by sending email to > cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by > >visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > >> > >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 10, 2001 Thank you Cliff. As Kallie said, the website is www.watercure.com. Is very interesting to read. Gr. Kees Braam webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl Water > > > > > >> > >> 75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated. In 37% of > >> Americans, the thirst mechanism is so weak that it is > >> often mistaken for hunger. Even MILD > >> dehydration will slow down one's metabolism as much as > >> 3%. > >> > >> One glass of water shuts down midnight hunger pangs for > >> almost 100% of the dieters studied in a U-Washington > >> study.  Lack of water is the #1 trigger of > >> daytime fatigue. Preliminary research indicates that 8-10 > >> glasses of water a day could significantly ease back and > >> joint pain for up to 80% of sufferers. > >> > >> A mere 2% drop in body water can trigger fuzzy > >> short-term memory, trouble with basic math, and > >> difficulty focusing on the computer screen or on a > >> printed page. Drinking 5 glasses of water daily decreases > >> the risk of colon cancer by 45%, plus it can slash the > >> risk of breast cancer by 79%, and one is 50% less likely > >> to develop bladder cancer. > >> > >> Are you drinking the amount of water you should every > >> day? > >> > >> > >> Of course, too much water may have strange side effects > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. > >Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by > >visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > >> > >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2001 Maskell wrote: > As an aside, some folks worry about carbonation & calcium loss. Turns > out it's the caffeine, not the carbonation, that's to blame. Actually my ND told me its the phosphoric acid in the sodas that cause the loss of calcium (I think it inteferes with absorption of the calcium or something like this) - he said if I was going to drink a soda stick to the light ones like 7-up, orange, some rootbeers .... of course he says better to not drink them at all...LOL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2001 I did my own research; it's the caffeine. See below. Maskell wrote: As an aside, some folks worry about carbonation & calcium loss. Turns out it's the caffeine, not the carbonation, that's to blame. Crystal replied: > Actually my ND told me its the phosphoric acid in the sodas > that cause the loss of calcium (I think it inteferes with > absorption of the calcium or something like this) http://healthlink.mcw.edu/article/959705343.html I also have heard several times that carbonated drinks are not good for your bone because of the phosphorus. Two different reasons have been given: 1) phosphorus binds to the calcium in your stomach and prevents absorption of the calcium into your blood, and 2) high phosphorus in your blood draws calcium out of your bones. When I searched recent medical articles and textbooks (for hours!), I could find nothing supporting this. ~Rebekah Wang-Cheng, MD http://www.applesforhealth.com/HealthyEating/nocalsoft3.html Researchers say that drinking carbonated beverages does not result in bone loss but they suggest that the growing displacement of milk by soft drinks in the American diet is harmful to bones and health in general. Published in the August issue of the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, the study evaluated four types of beverages, two non-cola-type beverages, one caffeinated and one not, and two cola-type beverages, one caffeinated and one not. The researchers used milk and water as control beverages. Measurable calcium loss appeared in the urine of subjects following the use of caffeinated beverages. {snip} The non-caffeinated beverages had no effect on calcium. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2001 Maskell wrote: > I did my own research; it's the caffeine. See below. ok - but for every one report there's another http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/v38aje10.htm and actually they probably both have an effect. I do know that phosphoric acid does bind to calcium tho. Whether we consume enough to effect our overall calcium intake is another thing. Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2001 > ok - but for every one report there's another > > http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/v38aje10.htm 1964??? 35 years ago? How much research has been done since? Give me a break, Crystal. I was willing to go look at your research, but give me a recent scientific study that supports phosphoric acid. The one I quoted, that was published in a scientific journal, highlighted caffiene as the culprit. 35 years ago... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2001 I agree with Crystal. Both would certainly be having an effect. You have been sounding very opinionated lately my dear . Just because you read one report of something, doesn't mean the ten other reports stating different things are incorrect. JK -----Original Message----- > ok - but for every one report there's another > > http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/v38aje10.htm 1964??? 35 years ago? How much research has been done since? Give me a break, Crystal. I was willing to go look at your research, but give me a recent scientific study that supports phosphoric acid. The one I quoted, that was published in a scientific journal, highlighted caffiene as the culprit. 35 years ago... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2001 Ok not to get snide but I just pulled off one report (just to say that there are lotsa different viewpoints not that I was validating the report) - I was originally stating what an (educated) ND said not something I came up with myself. As for the date of the report (which I just found subsequent to your post) - the fact that phosphoric acid does bind to calcium would not change over time - that is a fact. Now whether the amount of phosphoric acid that we consume would play a factor in bone density, etc. is what would be under contention - as how we metabolize, etc. has varied over the years as new scientific evidence has come to fore. But for what its worth if you want to get into another report from the NSDA regarding an 2001 article put out by the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition disputes both theories. http://www.nsda.org/About/news/nutritionarticle.html and from Do Health Networks http://www.dohealthnet.com/article1192.html Is August 2001 new enough? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2001 Also I wasn't saying your theory had no validity - just that calcium might not be the only culprit in calcium bone loss (which I still contend). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2001 Crystal wrote: > Is August 2001 new enough? Yes. All I ask for, here or any where else, is open mindedness. I don't disagree that phosphorous binds to calcium, but does it leech it from our bones? That's another story altogether. The study I posted, while proving that individuals that consumed caffeinted beverages had an increase in calcium in their urine (whereas strictly carbonated beverages did not), also postulated that the real culprit was that these beverages displaced water and milk from the diet. I had read a number of studies concluding the same thing, but was willing to consider that phosphoric acid played some role, if you could provide me with data to support your position. I do have an open mind, but I don't walk blindly. I need more than someone's sayso, educated or not. People have been known to be wrong and it's virtually impossible for one person - educated or not - to keep up with all the research going on in the world. As for your (educated) ND... well, buyer beware. Just because someone has a degree on the wall, doesn't mean they know squat. I prefer to be an informed consumer. If that means that perceives me an " opinionated " , well, I'd prefer to be informed. I thought those here would, too, but if you prefer to keep your own ideas unchallenged and your minds closed, perhaps it would be better to delete my posts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
