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Guest guest Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 H. wrote: Does anybody know of a connection between EHS and type 2 diabetes? Shivani replies: There is absolutely a connection. I am pasting on below a copy of a recent posting to the blog on my Web site. I hope the links come through live. If not, see the original blog posting of July 5 at www.LifeEnergies.com/. Blood Glucose & Dirty Electricity studies Wednesday, July 5. 2006    On July 1st I posted news about a New Japanese study that looks at how a diabetic subject's blood glucose is affected by the installation/removal of Graham/Stetzer filters, which remove bioactive high frequencies from building electrical circuits. Find below more information about the connection between EMF/electrical pollution and blood glucose. ~ ~ ~ ~ Excerpt from Dirty Electricity & Electrical Hypersensitivity: Five Case Studies(as presented at the World Health Organization, 2004):      Graham/Stetzer filters were installed in the home of an 80-year old female with diabetes on June 12, 2004. Her home had very high values for dirty electricity (800 GS units on average with values above 2000 in some rooms) and these dropped significantly to no greater than 15 GS units (Table 1). Because she was diabetic and taking insulin, she regularly monitored her blood sugar levels.    Before the filters were installed this subject’s fasting plasma glucose (FPG) levels taken at 7 am each morning before breakfast ranged from 152 to 209 with a average of 171 mg/dL (9.4 mmoles/L) (Figure 6). According to the America Diabetes Association a person with a fasting blood glucose level of 126 mg/dL or higher is considered to be diabetic. A fasting blood glucose level between 100 and 125 mg/dL signals prediabetes.    The day after filters were installed in her home, this subjects fasting plasma glucose was 87 mg/dL (well below the diabetic range) and she did not take her morning insulin (Figure 6). During the first week her FPG ranged from 87 to 168 and averaged 119 mg/dL (6.5 mmoles/L). Her average daily insulin intake (Humlin 70/30) decreased from 36 to 9 units within the first week. The filters had no effect on her plasma glucose measured at 5 pm.    On days that this subject visited shopping malls and casinos, places that are likely to have poor power quality, her evening plasma glucose levels increased significantly (above 250 mg/dL or 14 mmoles/L) ....    In addition to Case #4, we have worked with individuals who have both type 1 and type 2 diabetes and those who are pre-diabetic and have found that blood sugar levels can change rapidly (within a matter of 20 minutes or so for some individuals) as they move from an environment that is electrically dirty to one that is electrically clean (and back again). ~ ~ ~ ~    Excerpts from Havas & Stetzer Study, as reported in Shocking News, October 26,2004: " ....Blood plasma glucose of diabetics increased as measures of electricity (millivolts and microsurges) increased in the environment of patients diagnosed with diabetes. Fasting glucose increased from 100 mg/DL to 160 mg/DL as electricity in the environment increased from 0 to 60 millivolts (mV). " " ....reducing electrical pollution (high frequency electrical noise) by use of microsurge filters plugged into [Refers to Stetzer filters.] wall outlets resulted in blood glucose decreasing within minutes. Fasting blood sugar decreased from average 171 to 119 mg/DL. " ~ ~ ~ ~ An extremely low frequency magnetic field attenuates insulin secretion from the insulinoma cell line, RIN-m Bioelectromagnetics Volume 25, Issue 3 , Pages 160 - 166 Abstract only:      In this study, we investigated the effects of exposure to an extremely low frequency magnetic field (ELFMF) on hormone secretion from an islet derived insulinoma cell line, RIN-m. We stimulated RIN-m cells to secrete insulin under exposure to an ELFMF, using our established system for the exposure of cultured cells to an ELFMF at 5 mT and 60 Hz, or under sham exposure conditions for 1 h and observed the effects. In the presence of a depolarizing concentration of potassium (45 mM KCl), exposure to ELFMF significantly attenuated insulin release from RIN-m cells, compared to sham exposed cells. Treatment with nifedipine reduced the difference in insulin secretion between cells exposed to an ELFMF and sham exposed cells. The expression of mRNA encoding synaptosomal associated protein of 25 kDa (SNAP-25) and synaptotagmin 1, which play a role in exocytosis in hormone secretion and influx of calcium ions, decreased with exposure to an ELFMF in the presence of 45 mM KCl. These results suggest that exposure to ELFMF attenuates insulin secretion from RIN-m cells by affecting calcium influx through calcium channels. Bioelectromagnetics 25:160-166, 2004. © 2004 Wiley-Liss, Inc. ~ ~ ~ ~  A short study done on Dave Stetzer, (Scroll down to study title: Blood Glucose Levels: A Study of Correlation Factors.) showed that his blood glucose is consistently elevated when he is exposed to " dirty " electricity.    Dave's doctor had initially diagnosed him as being diabetic. However, an endocrinologist changed the diagnosis to glucose elevation due to exposure to electrical pollution, after testing Dave.  He cannot be treated with insulin, as dosage cannot be made to correlate with electrical pollution exposure. In Dave's case, his glucose level does not vary with what he eats, but only with exposure to electrical pollution. ~ ~ ~ ~    It is common for people diagnosed as being diabetic to need less insulin after installing Graham Stetzer filters in their living space. Some no longer need insulin at all. One would hope that diabetes organizations would respond to this information enthusiastically, and support related research.  This has not been the case, however.     Treating lifelong symptoms with drugs is much more profitable than finding and addressing the actual cause of symptoms.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Dieticians tend to all give the same advice, and that is advice which is dangerous to take. They say to cut out butter and saturated fats because diabetics are prone to heart disease. What they do not tell you is that diabetic medicines cause heart disease. Dieticians say to limit protein because diabetics are prone to ,idney failutre. They never tell you that diabetic medicines (as well as antibiotics and most other allopathic meds) cause kidney failure. So if one can control fasting blood sugar without the need for meds, one has a far better chance of avoiding " diabetic complications " . Dieticians talk a lot about glycemic index. They want one to eat complex carbs because they are absorbed more slowly than sugars. I prefer to do away with most complex carbs altogether. So no breads or rice or beans. The docs do not seem to understand that insulin resistance can be slowly reversed over time thru diet. The cell membraznes are made of fats. Eat the wrong fats and the cells become more insulin resisitant. Lots of omega 3 oils from ocean fish, from cod liver oil, from flaxseed oil. Lots of coconut oil. Get rid of the seed oils like corn and canola from diet. I eat small meals. I take lots of supplements. I take vitamin C 3 or 4 times a day. I take at least 10 grams a day, much more if I have a flu. Many small doses is better than 1 big one. Chromium Picolinate, Fenugreek, Gymnema Sylvestre are all good for keeping blood sugars moderated. I get at least 8 hours of sleep every night. Milk is high carb, so I don't use it. I gave up caffeine. No soda of any kind. I stay away from artificial sweeteners. MSM & Cinnamon are good for neuropathy. I have far more feeling in hands and feet than I did 5 years ago. High fiber diet is good for bowel health. I supplement with about 3 teaspoons each of two different fiber powders, and I take benificial gut bateria also. When I was diagnosed with diabetes 5-1/2 years ago, my fasting blood sugar was up over 360. Now I keep it down to 110-130 for the most part. Spicy foods like cayenne pepper are good for improving circulation. Alobar On 10/25/06, Staya Udanvti Bob <CherokeeBo@...> wrote: > Hi All! > > Well it has happened. I have been diagnosed with diabetes type two by my family DO doctor. > > I have been watching my BS (blood sugar) for 16 years since I was diagnosed with hypoglycemia (a precursor to hyperglycemia), but I did not know how to do the BS testing properly. Haphazardly testing is not conclusive nor definitive. BS must be taken pre and then post meals to judge how MY body handles each type of food. Pastrami and black rye bread sandwich gives me a 189 BS two hours later. A scrambled egg and two sausage patties give me 123 BS. > > Attending a two day diabetes education program Monday 23rd and Tuesday 24th I have discovered that I have had diabetes II for at least ten years and my reported tingling/numb toes/feet did not clue my family MD doctor. Today I have painful feet, toes, and calves, IE: neuropathy. Even lightly touching them is excruciatingly painful at times. > > My fasting blood sugar (BS) is consistently above the 70 to 110 normal range, and frequently above 140 post meals.... > My overnight fasting BS is elevated from the foods I ate for previous supper. So I have found out that meal planning is very very important. > > I resist taking the pharmaceuticals and need to learn how to control my BS with meal planning and herbal remedies. > > My one hour one on one with the 18 year experienced Ph.D dietician is 29 Nov. > > Any help out there?... > > Love > Bob > Adageyudi > Staya Udanvti > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Drink lots of water. More to follow. Nina -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/497 - Release Date: 10/25/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Bob: VCO with each meal should help bring your blood levels down very quickly. Are you using enough VCO? Bonnie Diabetes Hi All! Well it has happened. I have been diagnosed with diabetes type two by my family DO doctor. I have been watching my BS (blood sugar) for 16 years since I was diagnosed with hypoglycemia (a precursor to hyperglycemia), but I did not know how to do the BS testing properly. Haphazardly testing is not conclusive nor definitive. BS must be taken pre and then post meals to judge how MY body handles each type of food. Pastrami and black rye bread sandwich gives me a 189 BS two hours later. A scrambled egg and two sausage patties give me 123 BS. Attending a two day diabetes education program Monday 23rd and Tuesday 24th I have discovered that I have had diabetes II for at least ten years and my reported tingling/numb toes/feet did not clue my family MD doctor. Today I have painful feet, toes, and calves, IE: neuropathy. Even lightly touching them is excruciatingly painful at times. My fasting blood sugar (BS) is consistently above the 70 to 110 normal range, and frequently above 140 post meals.... My overnight fasting BS is elevated from the foods I ate for previous supper. So I have found out that meal planning is very very important. I resist taking the pharmaceuticals and need to learn how to control my BS with meal planning and herbal remedies. My one hour one on one with the 18 year experienced Ph.D dietician is 29 Nov. Any help out there?... Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Hi Alobar ! Many thanks for sharing your experiences and reactions concerning human diabetes, a global abnormality of mankind, the rich and the poor. If don't mind may I know your weight before and current, age, blood type and nature of daily job. With your revelations, I'm certain many would consider these lessons in dealing with and preventing the abnormality in an optimistic way. God Bless and all the best, Sev Magat Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote: Dieticians tend to all give the same advice, and that is advice which is dangerous to take. They say to cut out butter and saturated fats because diabetics are prone to heart disease. What they do not tell you is that diabetic medicines cause heart disease. Dieticians say to limit protein because diabetics are prone to ,idney failutre. They never tell you that diabetic medicines (as well as antibiotics and most other allopathic meds) cause kidney failure. So if one can control fasting blood sugar without the need for meds, one has a far better chance of avoiding " diabetic complications " . Dieticians talk a lot about glycemic index. They want one to eat complex carbs because they are absorbed more slowly than sugars. I prefer to do away with most complex carbs altogether. So no breads or rice or beans. The docs do not seem to understand that insulin resistance can be slowly reversed over time thru diet. The cell membraznes are made of fats. Eat the wrong fats and the cells become more insulin resisitant. Lots of omega 3 oils from ocean fish, from cod liver oil, from flaxseed oil. Lots of coconut oil. Get rid of the seed oils like corn and canola from diet. I eat small meals. I take lots of supplements. I take vitamin C 3 or 4 times a day. I take at least 10 grams a day, much more if I have a flu. Many small doses is better than 1 big one. Chromium Picolinate, Fenugreek, Gymnema Sylvestre are all good for keeping blood sugars moderated. I get at least 8 hours of sleep every night. Milk is high carb, so I don't use it. I gave up caffeine. No soda of any kind. I stay away from artificial sweeteners. MSM & Cinnamon are good for neuropathy. I have far more feeling in hands and feet than I did 5 years ago. High fiber diet is good for bowel health. I supplement with about 3 teaspoons each of two different fiber powders, and I take benificial gut bateria also. When I was diagnosed with diabetes 5-1/2 years ago, my fasting blood sugar was up over 360. Now I keep it down to 110-130 for the most part. Spicy foods like cayenne pepper are good for improving circulation. Alobar On 10/25/06, Staya Udanvti Bob <CherokeeBo@...> wrote: > Hi All! > > Well it has happened. I have been diagnosed with diabetes type two by my family DO doctor. > > I have been watching my BS (blood sugar) for 16 years since I was diagnosed with hypoglycemia (a precursor to hyperglycemia), but I did not know how to do the BS testing properly. Haphazardly testing is not conclusive nor definitive. BS must be taken pre and then post meals to judge how MY body handles each type of food. Pastrami and black rye bread sandwich gives me a 189 BS two hours later. A scrambled egg and two sausage patties give me 123 BS. > > Attending a two day diabetes education program Monday 23rd and Tuesday 24th I have discovered that I have had diabetes II for at least ten years and my reported tingling/numb toes/feet did not clue my family MD doctor. Today I have painful feet, toes, and calves, IE: neuropathy. Even lightly touching them is excruciatingly painful at times. > > My fasting blood sugar (BS) is consistently above the 70 to 110 normal range, and frequently above 140 post meals.... > My overnight fasting BS is elevated from the foods I ate for previous supper. So I have found out that meal planning is very very important. > > I resist taking the pharmaceuticals and need to learn how to control my BS with meal planning and herbal remedies. > > My one hour one on one with the 18 year experienced Ph.D dietician is 29 Nov. > > Any help out there?... > > Love > Bob > Adageyudi > Staya Udanvti > --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I am a Tarot card reader who woeks outside on the public Square. I am 61. I now weigh 170 pounds. 5 years ago I weighed 270. My blood type is A+ On 10/25/06, Severino Magat <sev_magat@...> wrote: > Hi Alobar ! > > Many thanks for sharing your experiences and reactions concerning human diabetes, a global abnormality of mankind, the rich and the poor. > > If don't mind may I know your weight before and current, age, blood type and nature of daily job. > > With your revelations, I'm certain many would consider these lessons in dealing with and preventing the abnormality in an optimistic way. > > God Bless and all the best, > > Sev Magat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Alobar, Again, I appreciate very much you quick reply. With the info you provided us, your journey in life is unique as any other individual. I've turned 60 this year (married and blessed with 2 professional and responsible sons, my wife by default not able to practice her profession is our housekeeper, my blood type " O " , 5' 7 " in height, weighs 143 lbs) but less mobile than you because my work involves lots of thinking for the last 15 years and less physical activity. Wishing I can live normally for the next15-20 years, GOD willing ! My main source of fat is the lauric-rich coconut (oil, coconut milk-dishes, fresh tender coconut kernel (8 month old nut called 'buko' here in the Philippines) and/or mature dried/fresh coconut meat) but drinks dairy milk (a glass daily) and uses butter as wheat bread spread. Also, moderately eats vegetables and fruits (banana and citrus fruits, others in season). This is a part of my journey in life, just reciprocating your kindness to answer my question asked earlier. Hoping, it did not bore you. I'm writing this email as I took my break in my office ( a government agency) working on the technology and development of the Philippine coconut industry. I know many happy and healthy people whose daily exercise of walking and heathy food nutrition snergize very well, thus reaches beyond 85 years and still walk to manage their daily needs. Honestly, I've learned many things from your active participation in our e-forum and very glad you visit your e-mails regularly. I'm sure our forum moderators would agree with my opinion/impression of you. More power ! Cheers, Sev Magat Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote: I am a Tarot card reader who woeks outside on the public Square. I am 61. I now weigh 170 pounds. 5 years ago I weighed 270. My blood type is A+ On 10/25/06, Severino Magat <sev_magat@...> wrote: > Hi Alobar ! > > Many thanks for sharing your experiences and reactions concerning human diabetes, a global abnormality of mankind, the rich and the poor. > > If don't mind may I know your weight before and current, age, blood type and nature of daily job. > > With your revelations, I'm certain many would consider these lessons in dealing with and preventing the abnormality in an optimistic way. > > God Bless and all the best, > > Sev Magat --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 > Honestly, I've learned many things from your active participation in our e-forum and very glad you visit your e-mails regularly. I'm sure our forum moderators would agree with my opinion/impression of you. > > More power ! Cheers, > > Sev Magat We do, Sev Magat, and I think everyone else here does too! Alobar is a font of information and support for us all. :-) Carol One of the Moderators Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 VCO as part of a healthy low carb diet and with lots of diabetic related supplements helps my blood sugars. I suspect VCO with a bad diet and not taking supplements would not do much. Alobar On 11/27/06, italiansapphiregirl <italiansapphiregirl@...> wrote: > Has anyone with diabetes seen their fasting blood sugar levels come > down when you eat coconut oil daily? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Me, me, I have my up. Bonnie diabetes Has anyone with diabetes seen their fasting blood sugar levels come down when you eat coconut oil daily? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 I meant to say I have my HAND up. It's getting late. Bonnie diabetes Has anyone with diabetes seen their fasting blood sugar levels come down when you eat coconut oil daily? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Alobar In the last week my morning blood sugar ranges from 150 - 180. Up until this point I have been 110 - 140. It went up a couple of weeks ago when I started on VCO again, but I quit it after a day or so and it dropped but now has returned and is staying. I am not on any diabetic meds, just trying to control with diet, exercise and some supplements. I noted your post about MSM. Thanks for your info. Coconut Oil@...: Alobar@...: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:43:43 -0600Subject: Re: diabetes VCO as part of a healthy low carb diet and with lots of diabeticrelated supplements helps my blood sugars. I suspect VCO with a baddiet and not taking supplements would not do much.AlobarOn 11/27/06, italiansapphiregirl <italiansapphiregirl@...> wrote:> Has anyone with diabetes seen their fasting blood sugar levels come> down when you eat coconut oil daily?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 I delineated what I do to control my blood glucose levels in my blog. See the post here, along with comments. http://alobar.livejournal.com/1821680.html Alobar On 11/28/06, McCoy <smccoy@...> wrote: > Alobar > > In the last week my morning blood sugar ranges from 150 - 180. Up until this point I have been 110 - 140. It went up a couple of weeks ago when I started on VCO again, but I quit it after a day or so and it dropped but now has returned and is staying. I am not on any diabetic meds, just trying to control with diet, exercise and some supplements. I noted your post about MSM. Thanks for your info. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Alobar, Wow!! I read your post. You're healing. That's excellent. Keep it up and by spring I bet your fasting blood glucose will stay below 100. I can't believe the diabetes drugs can also damage your blood vessels and kills the pancreas. You know how many people are taking those drugs thinking that it can help them and all it's doing is making them worse. That's like those cholesterol lowering drugs or Statin drugs I read can damage your heart and muscles and can cause cancer. You can read this article. http://www.mercola.com/2004/jul/21/statin_drugs.htm > > I delineated what I do to control my blood glucose levels in my blog. > See the post here, along with comments. > http://alobar.livejournal.com/1821680.html > > Alobar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 I work with my dreams a lot. I use visualization. I pay attention to seemingly random bits which are really clues. Alobar On 11/28/06, <schwul@...> wrote: > Alobar, > > Have you tried any form of consciousness-processing or other spiritual/psychological work that aims at unifying the conscious and unconscious mind? The fundamental underlying principle of all spiritual paths is that everything is in unity... in other words regarding health issues, the mind/body/spirit are one. This means that your body is just a physical reflection of your consciousness, or one could say that it's acting out unconscious programming. Or another way to look at it is that there is no " outside " , that you are in (conscious or more likely unconscious) command of everything that happens in your body. I have had very good results practicing techniques based on this understanding, together with of course proper nutrition. Techniques that I have seen used for diabetes include EFT (http://www.emofree.org) and focusing (http://www.focusing.org), meditation, and even family constellations (http://www.familyconstellations.net/). I've also had good results with > hybrid techniques such as muscle testing + flower essences as taught by Machaelle Small- (http://www.perelandra-ltd.com/) The EFT and flower essence techniques have gotten almost instant results for some of my health problems, as well as showing me how my unconscious belief systems led to ill health. I look forward to the time when I can consciously create health and well-being without the need for drugs and supplements, but I'm only starting that path so far. > > Louise Hay (whose seeing is clearly not for everyone!) says that Diabetes stems > from " Longing for what might have been. A great need to control. Deep > sorrow. No sweetness left. " I often use her quick-summary seeings as a starting point for my investigations... > > Best, > > -eric > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Dale On 1 January 2007, i eliminated from my diet, sugar, potatoes, refined wheat products, such as white bread and pasta. I have witnessed my morning blood sugar drop from 150 - 190 to 80 - 108. It happended very quickly once I got serious about my diet. I also do not drink coffee or tea or soda. Life is good. My tryglicerides dropped from 240 to 136. A1c in the normal range. I am not taking any meds for diabetes, just some vitamin and minerals. If you contact me offline I can tell you about a book I read that really helped. Don't want to be accused of trying to hawk any products. Good Luck Coconut Oil@...: caroldalehubbard@...: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:24:40 +0000Subject: Diabetes I'm looking for good suggestions on controlling type II diabetesDale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 , Please share the book with us. Good for you on getting your health to be a normal. I was not sick but due to giving up all those things I have become healthier too and have dropped 84#. Take care,Suzzi -- Diabetes I'm looking for good suggestions on controlling type II diabetesDale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Suzzi It is The Schwarzbein Principle written by Dr Swarzbein. I read the book in 2005 and started the principles and my blood sugar immediately started to normalize. Then my sweet tooth kicked in and I went back to my old habits and so did my blood sugar. I started again in Jan 2007 and it went down almost immediately. In addition my tryglycerides went from 240 to 132. I have lost a little weight, but the health effects are what I am the most concerned with now. I hope to be as successful as you losing 84 lbs. Good work. Coconut Oil@...: resleffbunch@...: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:52:23 -0700Subject: RE: Diabetes , Please share the book with us. Good for you on getting your health to be anormal. I was not sick but due to giving up all those things I have becomehealthier too and have dropped 84#. Take care,Suzzi -------Original Message------- From: McCoy Date: 04/19/07 10:24:01 To: Coconut Oil Subject: RE: Diabetes Dale On 1 January 2007, i eliminated from my diet, sugar, potatoes, refined wheatproducts, such as white bread and pasta. I have witnessed my morning bloodsugar drop from 150 - 190 to 80 - 108. It happended very quickly once I gotserious about my diet. I also do not drink coffee or tea or soda. Life isgood. My tryglicerides dropped from 240 to 136. A1c in the normal range. Iam not taking any meds for diabetes, just some vitamin and minerals. If youcontact me offline I can tell you about a book I read that really helped.Don't want to be accused of trying to hawk any products. Good Luck To: Coconut Oil@...: caroldalehubbard@comcastnetDate: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:24:40 +0000Subject: Diabetes I'm looking for good suggestions on controlling type II diabetesDale [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Dale: VCO has been a big help to me in keeping my blood sugar levels just as low as with using the medication. Bonnie Diabetes I'm looking for good suggestions on controlling type II diabetes Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Coconut water is very high carb and should be avoided by diabetics. Alobar On 12/20/07, abdurdiaab <abdurraheem@...> wrote: > How does coconut oil or coconut water help a diabetic? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Hi there... that's not strictly true. We have had diabetics who have monitored their blood sugar levels during our program whilst drinking 5 coconut water per day and 1 fresh fruit juice in the morning and actually they had very good results. They all felt balanced more than they have experienced before. They all became Diabetic due to lifestyle and where not born Diabetic, one lady who has worked hard for the last two years has reversed her diabetes (a shock to her doctor) she did however change her complete lifestyle and is in her 60's. We had one woman who's eyesight improved dramatically during the 8 day program she found she could txt her friends without using her glasses and she still drink 3 coconut waters per day. Dxx Deborah on Founder +66 (0)857829019 deborah@... Motivate, Educate & Facilitate Optimum Health & Vitality, Globally <http://www.puriti.org/> www.puriti.org _____ From: Coconut Oil [mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of Alobar Sent: .. <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=10620284/grpspId=1705062215/msgI d=19436/stime=1198168871/nc1=4836031/nc2=5008809/nc3=4025304> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Let us say I am dubious. Alobar On 12/20/07, Deborah <deborah@...> wrote: > Hi there... that's not strictly true. > > We have had diabetics who have monitored their blood sugar levels during our > program whilst drinking 5 coconut water per day and 1 fresh fruit juice in > the morning and actually they had very good results. They all felt balanced > more than they have experienced before. They all became Diabetic due to > lifestyle and where not born Diabetic, one lady who has worked hard for the > last two years has reversed her diabetes (a shock to her doctor) she did > however change her complete lifestyle and is in her 60's. > > We had one woman who's eyesight improved dramatically during the 8 day > program she found she could txt her friends without using her glasses and > she still drink 3 coconut waters per day. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Hi ! May I inform you that a credible reference (Coconut Development Board of India) mentioned that coconut water at early stages of maturity ( 6 - 8 month old young " tender " nut stage), sugars are in the form of glucose and fructose (reducing sugars) and sucrose (non-reducing sugar or complex disaccharides) appears only in the later (mature 11 - 12 month old nut). The later increases with maturity time while the former (reducing sugars) falls. Latest findings in the Philippines (by the Philippine Coconut Authority and the Department of Science and Technology) revealed that coconut sugar from the coconut sap (derived from the pre-opened coconut flowers (male and female) in closed spathes contains 5 - 9% glucose and fructose sugars (reducing sugars) and the rest (75-85%) in sucrose sugar form. This inherent attribute or nature of naturally processed coconut sugar (with increasing demand in the country and elsewhere) causes the low glycemix index of only GI 35 (as a general guide GI of 55 or less) prevents human diabetes. Cheers, Sev Magat Hoping this make sense. Sev Magat Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote: Coconut water is very high carb and should be avoided by diabetics. Alobar On 12/20/07, abdurdiaab <abdurraheem@...> wrote: > How does coconut oil or coconut water help a diabetic? > --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 I have never seen coconut water made from young coconuts in the US. If I lived in the tropics, young cocnut water might be something to use. But here, I have learned to avoid coconut water. All the cans seem to contain far more sugar than I would want to take in regularly. The best tasting coconut water I have found is from Wilderness Family Naturals http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/coconut_water.htm and that contains more sugar in one serving than I like to eat in an entire day. Serving Size 200 ml (7.45 oz) Total Carbohydrates 18g Sugar 16g Alobar On 12/21/07, Severino Magat <sev_magat@...> wrote: > Hi ! > > May I inform you that a credible reference (Coconut Development Board of India) mentioned that coconut water at early stages of maturity ( 6 - 8 month old young " tender " nut stage), sugars are in the form of glucose and fructose (reducing sugars) and sucrose (non-reducing sugar or complex disaccharides) appears only in the later (mature 11 - 12 month old nut). The later increases with maturity time while the former (reducing sugars) falls. > > Latest findings in the Philippines (by the Philippine Coconut Authority and the Department of Science and Technology) revealed that coconut sugar from the coconut sap (derived from the pre-opened coconut flowers (male and female) in closed spathes contains 5 - 9% glucose and fructose sugars (reducing sugars) and the rest (75-85%) in sucrose sugar form. This inherent attribute or nature of naturally processed coconut sugar (with increasing demand in the country and elsewhere) causes the low glycemix index of only GI 35 (as a general guide GI of 55 or less) prevents human diabetes. > > Cheers, > > Sev Magat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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