Re: oils, cooking with oils

[Guest guest]

A long time ago I read somewhere that margarine turned into trans fats when

cooking it. I didn't think butter or coconut oil did but I could be wrong. Wow,

it is too bad about your allergy. Can you manage olive oil? Have you sought any

alternative treatments to treat your allergy? My brother recently told me that

he talked to a chemist who warned about grapeseed -I don't know if he said

extract or oil - but he said that that it can be unstable if not made/stored

right and can turn into free radicals in your system. I don't know if that

applies to the oil or not. Jen

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turn into trans fats when cooking with it.

> I wonder if there is a list somewhere with oils that turn into trans fats

while heated/cooking.

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allergy/intolerance.

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[Guest guest]

any fatty acid can be turned into a trans-fatty acid by exposure to light,

oxygen, and high heat (over 350 F).

Read the book by Udo Erasmus http://www.udoerasmus.com/firstscreen.htm

[Guest guest]

, are you saying that cooking with cocunut or olive oil is pointless

then? Doug

From: Forrest <a57ngel@...>

Subject: Re: oils, cooking with oils

candidiasis

Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 11:14 AM

 

any fatty acid can be turned into a trans-fatty acid by

exposure to light, oxygen, and high heat (over 350 F).

Read the book by Udo Erasmus http://www.udoerasm us.com/firstscre en.htm

[Guest guest]

Doug, Enig (on Udo's book): " ...the facts about fats are so intertwined

with error as to present a tangled skein, likely to do more harm than good. The

author has worked as a salesman for several companies specializing in

cold-pressed vegetable oils, which explains his bias towards polyunsaturated

oils and against saturated animal fats and tropical oils, bias that is highly

tinged with error. "

http://www.westonaprice.org/bookreviews/fat_kills.html

all good,

Duncan

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[Guest guest]

Duncan, still I am left not knowing, is heated cocunut oil healthy to be

consumed again? Also on the prompt of someone on this site I am now on to hemp

seeds which appear to be very healthy, is that a mistake? Thanks Doug

From: DuncanC <duncancrow@...>

Subject: Re: oils, cooking with oils

candidiasis

Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 10:54 AM

 

Doug, Enig (on Udo's book): " ...the facts about fats are

so intertwined with error as to present a tangled skein, likely to do more harm

than good. The author has worked as a salesman for several companies

specializing in cold-pressed vegetable oils, which explains his bias towards

polyunsaturated oils and against saturated animal fats and tropical oils, bias

that is highly tinged with error. "

http://www.westonap rice.org/ bookreviews/ fat_kills. html

all good,

Duncan

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Doug, coconut oil is mostly saturated fats that do not break down under heat

like unsaturates do.

Hemp oil IS a mistake. It is a seed oil that contains among the highest amounts

of polyunsaturated and unsaturated oil, which really don't have much of a place

in the diet beyond a trace. We are made to live on saturated fats.

Unsaturated and polyunsaturated oils comprise about 74% of plaque in one's

arteries according to an analysis published in Lancet. I don't use or support

the use of hemp or other seed oils because of this and its very high

peroxidation index, but the leftover pulp would be OK.

See the interactive oils analysis worksheet in my references; you can plug in

other oils if you know their components:

http://tinyurl.com/oil-references

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Duncan, are you distinguishing between hemp and the left over pulp? If I order

hemp then that is probably not the left over pulp. Doug

From: DuncanC <duncancrow@...>

Subject: Re: oils, cooking with oils

candidiasis

Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 1:18 PM

 

Doug, coconut oil is mostly saturated fats that do not break

down under heat like unsaturates do.

Hemp oil IS a mistake. It is a seed oil that contains among the highest amounts

of polyunsaturated and unsaturated oil, which really don't have much of a place

in the diet beyond a trace. We are made to live on saturated fats.

Unsaturated and polyunsaturated oils comprise about 74% of plaque in one's

arteries according to an analysis published in Lancet. I don't use or support

the use of hemp or other seed oils because of this and its very high

peroxidation index, but the leftover pulp would be OK.

See the interactive oils analysis worksheet in my references; you can plug in

other oils if you know their components:

http://tinyurl. com/oil-referenc es

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Duncan, while I have likewise read that sunflower oil is very bad for us, it is

not so of the sunflower seed. I wonder if we are talking similarly here. What I

have is hemp seeds. Doug

From: DuncanC <duncancrow@...>

Subject: Re: oils, cooking with oils

candidiasis

Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 1:18 PM

 

Doug, coconut oil is mostly saturated fats that do not break

down under heat like unsaturates do.

Hemp oil IS a mistake. It is a seed oil that contains among the highest amounts

of polyunsaturated and unsaturated oil, which really don't have much of a place

in the diet beyond a trace. We are made to live on saturated fats.

Unsaturated and polyunsaturated oils comprise about 74% of plaque in one's

arteries according to an analysis published in Lancet. I don't use or support

the use of hemp or other seed oils because of this and its very high

peroxidation index, but the leftover pulp would be OK.

See the interactive oils analysis worksheet in my references; you can plug in

other oils if you know their components:

http://tinyurl. com/oil-referenc es

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[Guest guest]

I have to say this topic of seed oil consumption by humans may be scientific

but it is not based on biological truth. The Inuit Indians in the far north

live on animal and fish fat. They eat virtually no vegetation and are some of

the most healthiest humans on the planet, until they move to industrialization.

There bodies fall apart with the modern diets and they develope die-ease

rapidly. Has anyone else asked the question WHY? We humans are not designed to

eat a seed or any form of a seed including the oils of seeds! Have you ever

asked why you can run a engine on seed oils, like peanut, soya, sunflower, etc.

So, if you can run an engine on the stuff, so you think it is good for a human?

We are not engines! This is layed out nicely in 2 books titled " Fiber Menace "

and " Electrical Nutrition " . We are by nature hunter/gatherers.

Wil

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From: douglas richey <dglsrichey@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2009 2:12:25 PM

Subject: Re: Re: oils, cooking with oils

Duncan, while I have likewise read that sunflower oil is very bad for us, it is

not so of the sunflower seed. I wonder if we are talking similarly here. What I

have is hemp seeds. Doug

From: DuncanC <duncancrowshaw (DOT) ca>

Subject: Re: oils, cooking with oils

candidiasis

Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 1:18 PM

Doug, coconut oil is mostly saturated fats that do not break down under heat

like unsaturates do.

Hemp oil IS a mistake. It is a seed oil that contains among the highest amounts

of polyunsaturated and unsaturated oil, which really don't have much of a place

in the diet beyond a trace. We are made to live on saturated fats.

Unsaturated and polyunsaturated oils comprise about 74% of plaque in one's

arteries according to an analysis published in Lancet. I don't use or support

the use of hemp or other seed oils because of this and its very high

peroxidation index, but the leftover pulp would be OK.

See the interactive oils analysis worksheet in my references; you can plug in

other oils if you know their components:

http://tinyurl. com/oil-referenc es

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Duncan:

I am was going to buy organic hemp protein powder. Is this ok to take

Keycross

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[Guest guest]

Doug, when I looked it up I figured you'd get enough hemp oil to cause

inflammation if you use hemp oil on your salad or to cook with or hemp seed as a

staple food, but probably not if you used it as a garnish or you had only casual

exposure.

When you know the oil's fatty acid profile you can work its inflammation index

out according to a formula in the book Inflammation Nation by Dr. Floyd Chilton.

You can also get a peroxidation index from my oils analysis worksheet by

plugging in the profile; that could be considered offset somewhat by natural

antioxidants if the hemp or the oil is fresh.

In this analysis as an example the oil is about 90% polyunsaturated:

http://www.myhempoil.com/prodoct_html.htm

....the 20% alpha linolenic acid MAY be converted at 1% to 3% rate to EPA and

DHA; however, the 10.5% linoleic acid in this oil and whatever other dietary

oils compete for a metabolism pathway so most of even that won't happen. This is

an inflammatory condition.

The seed oil manufacturers say whatever they want but the seed oil research was

coducted on mice, which metabolize seed oils fine while in humans you do get

inflammation. Turns out the so-alled " essential " omega-3 alpha-linolenic acid

isn't essential at all, it's not even well-utilized. A read of Chilton's book

reveals more.

Duncan

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is not so of the sunflower seed. I wonder if we are talking similarly here. What

I have is hemp seeds. Doug

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[Guest guest]

Duncan, so I think 3 table spoons is a serving size. If I ingest one tablespoon

per meal( 3 a day) that would not do harm would it. It appears to have so much

nutrition in it. Doug

From: DuncanC <duncancrow@...>

Subject: Re: oils, cooking with oils

candidiasis

Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 9:32 PM

 

Doug, when I looked it up I figured you'd get enough hemp oil

to cause inflammation if you use hemp oil on your salad or to cook with or hemp

seed as a staple food, but probably not if you used it as a garnish or you had

only casual exposure.

When you know the oil's fatty acid profile you can work its inflammation index

out according to a formula in the book Inflammation Nation by Dr. Floyd Chilton.

You can also get a peroxidation index from my oils analysis worksheet by

plugging in the profile; that could be considered offset somewhat by natural

antioxidants if the hemp or the oil is fresh.

In this analysis as an example the oil is about 90% polyunsaturated:

http://www.myhempoi l.com/prodoct_ html.htm

....the 20% alpha linolenic acid MAY be converted at 1% to 3% rate to EPA and

DHA; however, the 10.5% linoleic acid in this oil and whatever other dietary

oils compete for a metabolism pathway so most of even that won't happen. This is

an inflammatory condition.

The seed oil manufacturers say whatever they want but the seed oil research was

coducted on mice, which metabolize seed oils fine while in humans you do get

inflammation. Turns out the so-alled " essential " omega-3 alpha-linolenic acid

isn't essential at all, it's not even well-utilized. A read of Chilton's book

reveals more.

Duncan

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is not so of the sunflower seed. I wonder if we are talking similarly here. What

I have is hemp seeds. Doug

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[Guest guest]

Doug,

someone tricked or played a prank.

see url :

===============================================

DuncanC wrote:

> Doug, coconut oil is mostly saturated fats that do not break down under heat

like unsaturates do.

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amounts of polyunsaturated and unsaturated oil, which really don't have much of

a place in the diet beyond a trace. We are made to live on saturated fats.

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> Unsaturated and polyunsaturated oils comprise about 74% of plaque in one's

arteries according to an analysis published in Lancet. I don't use or support

the use of hemp or other seed oils because of this and its very high

peroxidation index, but the leftover pulp would be OK.

>

> See the interactive oils analysis worksheet in my references; you can plug in

other oils if you know their components:

> http://tinyurl.com/oil-references

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> all good,

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> Duncan

[Guest guest]

I think you are talking about hemp SEEDS and adding them to your diet---I

use Salba, which are chia seeds....I think all the seeds are very similar,

but each holds a little bit of difference....

I've been reading a lot about white chia seeds lately, and supposedly

Salba is just a " brand " of them, but I prefer to use that brand (no affiliation

or interest).......I've looked up everything I could on the Internet, plus

talked to my nutritionist who I learned about Salba from........I love it,

but I have to admit I've been back into flax seeds lately (Forti-flax

exactly)........

I go by what I learn and what my body tells me.......

I add a scoop to my protein shakes daily---each of the types of seeds have

some little difference, little more protein, little more Omegas, little

more fiber/amino's, so lately I've been mixing them all together and using a

scoop of the mixed seeds in my protein shake..............

Blessings, Margaret

" We are not held back by the love we didn't receive in the past, but by

the love we're not extending in the present. "

—nne on

[Guest guest]

Keycross, body builders who switched from animal protein to vegetable porotein

started to lose muscle mass right away. It's not as high in biological value,

meaning it generates more kidney loading and acidity than whey protein, more

like lean beef. You do digest it, although not as easily as beef protein.

In the end, I'd be concerned about the oil content of hemp protein; if the

polyunsaturated oil has been extracted I'd be more interested in using it as a

food.

Duncan

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[Guest guest]

Support for Wil's negative statements WRT seed oils is referenced in Enig's

" The Oiling Of America " .

Incidentally a paper titled " Electrical Nutrition " was written by Steve

Haltiwanger; it is available here:

http://royalrife.com/haltiwanger.html

Duncan

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> I have to say this topic of seed oil consumption by humans may be scientific

but it is not based on biological truth. The Inuit Indians in the far north

live on animal and fish fat. They eat virtually no vegetation and are some of

the most healthiest humans on the planet, until they move to industrialization.

There bodies fall apart with the modern diets and they develope die-ease

rapidly. Has anyone else asked the question WHY? We humans are not designed to

eat a seed or any form of a seed including the oils of seeds! Have you ever

asked why you can run a engine on seed oils, like peanut, soya, sunflower, etc.

So, if you can run an engine on the stuff, so you think it is good for a human?

We are not engines! This is layed out nicely in 2 books titled " Fiber Menace "

and " Electrical Nutrition " . We are by nature hunter/gatherers.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Wil,

I am all about paleolithic nutrition and have been for a long time so I'm right

there with you on this one. I even named my son " Hunter " after

" Hunter/Gatherer " , LOL. Do you see clients or are you on the research end? If

you see clients where are you located as we have people in our group that are

always looking for some good guidance.

Luv, Debby in San , CA

Student: Nutrition Certification and PhD in Psychology

Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com

Group: curingcandida/

----- Original Message ----

> From: Wil Spencer

>

> I have to say this topic of seed oil consumption by humans may be scientific

> but it is not based on biological truth. The Inuit Indians in the far north

> live on animal and fish fat. They eat virtually no vegetation and are some of

> the most healthiest humans on the planet, until they move to

industrialization.

> There bodies fall apart with the modern diets and they develop die-ease

> rapidly. Has anyone else asked the question WHY? We humans are not designed

to

> eat a seed or any form of a seed including the oils of seeds! Have you ever

> asked why you can run a engine on seed oils, like peanut, soya, sunflower,

etc.

> So, if you can run an engine on the stuff, so you think it is good for a

human?

> We are not engines! This is layed out nicely in 2 books titled " Fiber Menace "

> and " Electrical Nutrition " . We are by nature hunter/gatherers.

[Guest guest]

Wil, you can also run an engine on coconut oil, which IS good for a human; I

think changing analogies would be a good idea.

Do you really think fiber is a menace?

Duncan

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etc.

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human?

> > We are not engines! This is layed out nicely in 2 books titled " Fiber

Menace "

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[Guest guest]

Debby,

I have an actual clinic in eastern Pennsylvania. I have thousands of clients

all over North American and I travel a lot, like over 40,000 miles this year

already. I get to the west coast 3-4 times a year with my current client base.

With the new web visability and my expanding team I am to travel more and I also

do research all the time. I burn my candle on all 5 ends!This is my passion!

My new research and clients are my life. I have narrowed 2,500+ medical

symptoms down to just a couple of simple imbalances. Now with the new science

to give words to what I do it is amazing.

Wil

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From: Debby Padilla-Hudson <debbypadilla@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2009 12:38:52 PM

Subject: Re: Re: oils, cooking with oils

Hi Wil,

I am all about paleolithic nutrition and have been for a long time so I'm right

there with you on this one. I even named my son " Hunter " after

" Hunter/Gatherer " , LOL. Do you see clients or are you on the research end? If

you see clients where are you located as we have people in our group that are

always looking for some good guidance.

Luv, Debby in San , CA

Student: Nutrition Certification and PhD in Psychology

Website: http://www.naturall ythriving. com

Group: http://health. groups.. com/group/ curingcandida/

----- Original Message ----

> From: Wil Spencer

>

> I have to say this topic of seed oil consumption by humans may be scientific

> but it is not based on biological truth. The Inuit Indians in the far north

> live on animal and fish fat. They eat virtually no vegetation and are some of

> the most healthiest humans on the planet, until they move to

industrialization.

> There bodies fall apart with the modern diets and they develop die-ease

> rapidly. Has anyone else asked the question WHY? We humans are not designed

to

> eat a seed or any form of a seed including the oils of seeds! Have you ever

> asked why you can run a engine on seed oils, like peanut, soya, sunflower,

etc.

> So, if you can run an engine on the stuff, so you think it is good for a

human?

> We are not engines! This is layed out nicely in 2 books titled " Fiber Menace "

> and " Electrical Nutrition " . We are by nature hunter/gatherers.

[Guest guest]

My opinion of any plant oil is the same. As for coconut oil, biologically and

electrically has anti-fungal properties, yes, but the long term use is very

detrimental to the health of the digestive tract and the human. Has any one

else asked the question of what is biologically and electrically available to

our bodies as life force/food. I have acquired some results of research from

Saul Liss PhD, and have spoken in depth with him on the subject of what is

biologically and electrically available to humans as food. The answer he gave

me is simple, he recommends the diet in the book by Denie Hiestand called

" Electrical Nutrition " . Basically the hunter/gatherer reality. The simple

truth in my research and clinical experience and Saul Liss is this; We as

humans are made of around 220,000 different proteins which come from the

ingestion of 22 amino acids' and the other truth is to allow the manifestation

and continuance of our existence we also need a

little over 75 different minerals to facilitate the continuance of our life

force/electrolysis in the physical body on this planet as humans. We are

electrical beings living in a physical/biological reality, hence the name of my

web site www.mbsre-set.com, Mind,Body,Spirit.

And the fiber issue. I am saying as is www.fibermenace.com, it is the

insolualble fiber! Which in the industrialized world consists of mostly grains

and seeds and ALL there different forms. We by nature, are not not built to

ingest these elements and be truly healthy and vibrant beings!!!!

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath

[Guest guest]

Duncan,

If you will look at my comments alitlle closer, I reference a BOOK not a paper.

And Denie Hiestand is a personal friend and I interned in his clinic along side

him. So, please put your ego in your pocket and slow down alittle. I am not

here bashing you, I am just sharing my research and experience to lift the

awareness from a symptom relief based reality.

Wil

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From: DuncanC <duncancrow@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2009 11:13:57 AM

Subject: Re: oils, cooking with oils

Support for Wil's negative statements WRT seed oils is referenced in Enig's

" The Oiling Of America " .

Incidentally a paper titled " Electrical Nutrition " was written by Steve

Haltiwanger; it is available here:

http://royalrife. com/haltiwanger. html

Duncan

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> I have to say this topic of seed oil consumption by humans may be scientific

but it is not based on biological truth. The Inuit Indians in the far north

live on animal and fish fat. They eat virtually no vegetation and are some of

the most healthiest humans on the planet, until they move to industrialization.

There bodies fall apart with the modern diets and they develope die-ease

rapidly. Has anyone else asked the question WHY? We humans are not designed to

eat a seed or any form of a seed including the oils of seeds! Have you ever

asked why you can run a engine on seed oils, like peanut, soya, sunflower, etc.

So, if you can run an engine on the stuff, so you think it is good for a human?

We are not engines! This is layed out nicely in 2 books titled " Fiber Menace "

and " Electrical Nutrition " . We are by nature hunter/gatherers.

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[Guest guest]

that website you keep giving supposedly has a book on candida that is free to

read online, but there is no plugin that works for it. something's broken.

greg

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> My opinion of any plant oil is the same. As for coconut oil, biologically and

electrically has anti-fungal properties, yes, but the long term use is very

detrimental to the health of the digestive tract and the human. Has any one

else asked the question of what is biologically and electrically available to

our bodies as life force/food. I have acquired some results of research from

Saul Liss PhD, and have spoken in depth with him on the subject of what is

biologically and electrically available to humans as food. The answer he gave

me is simple, he recommends the diet in the book by Denie Hiestand called

" Electrical Nutrition " . Basically the hunter/gatherer reality. The simple

truth in my research and clinical experience and Saul Liss is this; We as

humans are made of around 220,000 different proteins which come from the

ingestion of 22 amino acids' and the other truth is to allow the manifestation

and continuance of our existence we also need a

> little over 75 different minerals to facilitate the continuance of our life

force/electrolysis in the physical body on this planet as humans. We are

electrical beings living in a physical/biological reality, hence the name of my

web site www.mbsre-set.com, Mind,Body,Spirit.

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> And the fiber issue. I am saying as is www.fibermenace.com, it is the

insolualble fiber! Which in the industrialized world consists of mostly grains

and seeds and ALL there different forms. We by nature, are not not built to

ingest these elements and be truly healthy and vibrant beings!!!!

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> Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath

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[Guest guest]

You need to read what I wrote. I did not say the whole book is free. I said

you can view it and download it from my website on the download page. I just

looked at all my responses and I have never mentioned the word free. I have

spent over a half a million dollars on my research of my own money with out

loans. I would like some of it back be fore I die. I think $2 is cheep to get

new and proven information. The paper book will be $12 when it comes out.

We are in the process of upgrading the web site and some errors are occurring do

to the high volume of traffic. So I do apologize for any interuption.

Wil

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From: dreaminginnoother <dreaminginnoother@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2009 5:46:38 PM

Subject: Re: oils, cooking with oils

that website you keep giving supposedly has a book on candida that is free to

read online, but there is no plugin that works for it. something's broken.

greg

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> My opinion of any plant oil is the same. As for coconut oil, biologically and

electrically has anti-fungal properties, yes, but the long term use is very

detrimental to the health of the digestive tract and the human. Has any one

else asked the question of what is biologically and electrically available to

our bodies as life force/food. I have acquired some results of research from

Saul Liss PhD, and have spoken in depth with him on the subject of what is

biologically and electrically available to humans as food. The answer he gave

me is simple, he recommends the diet in the book by Denie Hiestand called

" Electrical Nutrition " . Basically the hunter/gatherer reality. The simple

truth in my research and clinical experience and Saul Liss is this; We as

humans are made of around 220,000 different proteins which come from the

ingestion of 22 amino acids' and the other truth is to allow the manifestation

and continuance of our existence we also need a

> little over 75 different minerals to facilitate the continuance of our life

force/electrolysis in the physical body on this planet as humans. We are

electrical beings living in a physical/biological reality, hence the name of my

web site www.mbsre-set. com, Mind,Body,Spirit.

>

> And the fiber issue. I am saying as is www.fibermenace. com, it is the

insolualble fiber! Which in the industrialized world consists of mostly grains

and seeds and ALL there different forms. We by nature, are not not built to

ingest these elements and be truly healthy and vibrant beings!!!!

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> Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath

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[Guest guest]

sorry. Someone else had e-mailed me a while back saying I could view it fro

free on the site. I guess I am just talking about just the preview which

doesn't seem to work.

greg

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> > My opinion of any plant oil is the same. As for coconut oil, biologically

and electrically has anti-fungal properties, yes, but the long term use is very

detrimental to the health of the digestive tract and the human. Has any one

else asked the question of what is biologically and electrically available to

our bodies as life force/food. I have acquired some results of research from

Saul Liss PhD, and have spoken in depth with him on the subject of what is

biologically and electrically available to humans as food. The answer he gave

me is simple, he recommends the diet in the book by Denie Hiestand called

" Electrical Nutrition " . Basically the hunter/gatherer reality. The simple

truth in my research and clinical experience and Saul Liss is this; We as

humans are made of around 220,000 different proteins which come from the

ingestion of 22 amino acids' and the other truth is to allow the manifestation

and continuance of our existence we also need a

> > little over 75 different minerals to facilitate the continuance of our life

force/electrolysis in the physical body on this planet as humans. We are

electrical beings living in a physical/biological reality, hence the name of my

web site www.mbsre-set. com, Mind,Body,Spirit.

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> > And the fiber issue. I am saying as is www.fibermenace. com, it is the

insolualble fiber! Which in the industrialized world consists of mostly grains

and seeds and ALL there different forms. We by nature, are not not built to

ingest these elements and be truly healthy and vibrant beings!!!!

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[Guest guest]

What do you mean, doesn't seem to work?

Wil

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From: dreaminginnoother <dreaminginnoother@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 2:34:51 PM

Subject: Re: oils, cooking with oils

sorry. Someone else had e-mailed me a while back saying I could view it fro

free on the site. I guess I am just talking about just the preview which

doesn't seem to work.

greg

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> > My opinion of any plant oil is the same. As for coconut oil, biologically

and electrically has anti-fungal properties, yes, but the long term use is very

detrimental to the health of the digestive tract and the human. Has any one

else asked the question of what is biologically and electrically available to

our bodies as life force/food. I have acquired some results of research from

Saul Liss PhD, and have spoken in depth with him on the subject of what is

biologically and electrically available to humans as food. The answer he gave

me is simple, he recommends the diet in the book by Denie Hiestand called

" Electrical Nutrition " . Basically the hunter/gatherer reality. The simple

truth in my research and clinical experience and Saul Liss is this; We as

humans are made of around 220,000 different proteins which come from the

ingestion of 22 amino acids' and the other truth is to allow the manifestation

and continuance of our existence we also

need a

> > little over 75 different minerals to facilitate the continuance of our life

force/electrolysis in the physical body on this planet as humans. We are

electrical beings living in a physical/biological reality, hence the name of my

web site www.mbsre-set. com, Mind,Body,Spirit.

> >

> > And the fiber issue. I am saying as is www.fibermenace. com, it is the

insolualble fiber! Which in the industrialized world consists of mostly grains

and seeds and ALL there different forms. We by nature, are not not built to

ingest these elements and be truly healthy and vibrant beings!!!!

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