immune system support

October 10, 2007

duncan

What can you recommend to support my immune system?

i am taking vitamin c, multi greens from purity pride,

calcium amgensium, selenium, co Q 10, and having a

whey shake daily.

I eat kinda whatever i want these days without any

problems but i do stay away from processed foods and

processed sugars.

thanks

=^.^=

Sue K

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March 19, 2011

I take Spectrum brand with Vit D - two capsules at 520 mg EPA each, plus

1000 iud vit d each.

One of the things that I've discovered is that I'm not really fond of many

of the really traditional foods I've tried. Kefir, sourkraut, miso, kim

chi...I don't seem to like fermented foods. I did try a homemade water kefir

last weekend that I did really like but haven't researched how to make it or

what to do. It's been a struggle to learn what we NEED to be eating, but

discover I'm not fond of it.

I was going to ask for suggestions on fish oil vs cod liver oil when I got

towards the bottom of the bottle of capsules I have - what brand do you

take?

On Mar 19, 2011 8:17 PM, " Levitz " <@...> wrote:

,

What fish oil are you taking? I have taken CLO and then FCLO for

years, but it wasn't until this fall that I figured out I wasn't

taking " enough " . I went with the WAPF's recommendations and the health

affects for my family have been amazing!!! I take 5ml (which is a

teaspoon) and my kids (3,5,7) take 2.5ml. If we are fighting

something, we double it. (Nursing/pregnancy level is 10ml which I only

take if fighting something due to $$.)

I do not believe the fate of a lactating woman is to be ill. However,

nourishing our bodies is so important. Especially when we are

nourishing another life with our bodies. I have been pregnant and or

nursing for 8 years now. My youngest (3) only nurses a few minutes a

day, but have seen the impact on her immune system and am not going to

encourage weaning until winter is over. 4 minutes of my day is so

worth it.

Being a mom of a nursling is taxing on our bodies, so my goal is to

make 98% plus of what I consume be as nourishing as possible. Getting

that coconut oil, grass fed butter, pastured lard and raw dairy (if

possible) is so essential. And don't forget about letting those

friendly bacteria help you at every meal. I have found cultured

beverages to be the easiest for me to make with my crew. HTH!

Many Blessings,

, chief monkey wrangler to 4 (3 mine and 1 daycare toddler)

>

March 19, 2011

,

We take the cinnamon flavor

http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/CodLiverOil/index.cfm

. I do not like how most, if not all, of the cod liver oils are

filtered and then add synthetic A and D back in. Green Pasture's

products are as close to how some of my ancestors did it. I do not

want a bucket of fermenting fish on my doorstep like they did it

though. Here is the WAPF's dosing and brand suggestions:

http://www.westonaprice.org/cod-liver-oil/238

As for cultured foods, take baby steps.

Yogurt: Do you like yogurt? Start there. Get or make as nourishing as

possible.

Pickles: If you like pickles, the coops and health food stores have

cultured pickles. We also drink the pickle juice or use it as a

starter culture instead of whey.

Beet Kvass: I make beet kvass with the pickle juice as the starter

culture instead of whey. I HATE beets, but beet kvass tastes like a

mild pink pickle juice to me. It is really easy to make and easy to

get cultures down our throats. (Recipe in Nourishing Traditions.)

Kombucha: We love, love, love kombucha at our house. Tasting Will

Winter's kombucha inspired us to experiment with second ferments and

we now brew 11-13 gallons at a time. Like I said, we really like

it. It is more labor intensive, but it is special family time or

couple time for us and we experiment with various flavors.

Water kefir: I personally did not like it much, but it is pretty easy

to make. All you need to do is find some water grains. A lot of people

will mail you some for the price of shipping or you can find some

locally. You can also purchase them.

Kefir: Have you tried it cultured for a shorter time? I like mine

really pungent, but my husband can't drink it if cultured for more

than 24 hours. I prefer to make kefir over yogurt since it is so much

easier to make.

Other Dairy Cultures: There are also these options:

http://www.culturesforhealth.com/starter-cultures/yogurt-starter.html

. I had a Filmjolk culture at one point that I loved (it was really

mild and smooth), but evolved to kefir grains exclusively a few years

back.

Other NT ideas: I made the Indian punch a while back and we liked it.

Also you could try the ginger carrots recipe, but the recipe has a

misprint use 3 teaspoons of salt NOT 3 tablespoons. I learned that the

hard way this week.

Probiotics: If you would prefer to purchase probiotics, HMF probiotics

have blessed my family greatly. They are the only probiotics made from

human microflora (thus the HMF). My son had terrible IBS for years. I

believe a compilation of a mostly tradition diet of easy to digest

foods, cultured foods and beverages and the HMF Replete brought

significant healing to my son's body. He can eat foods he never, ever

could (like raw apple) and now has formed stools 98% of the time

without any supplements.

Like I said, focus on baby steps. Converting your diet or taste buds

will not change overnight, just like your babe needs to grow one baby

step at a time. And remember, refined foods like sugar and white flour

will compromise your immune system. Do your best and remember that

every day is a new day. A fresh new start.

Many, Many Blessings,

, fellow baby step taker

March 21, 2011

Hi , I'm sorry to hear you're having problems.

Do you think you could walk us through an example of your daily diet? As in what

you might eat throughout the day. Then we can better guage what you consider to

be healthy food. Be as detailed as you can.

Also I know the Fermented CLO seems comparatively expensive but if you were able

to understand just how much you're getting out of the living, fermented stuff,

it would make buying the other oils seem like setting your money on fire, we're

talking the difference between thousands of compounds in the raw living stuff

compared with a few handfuls of warped and denatured compounds. It really is

worth it, there is no question about that.

March 21, 2011

Essential oils! The thieves blend from Young Living is one of my favorites.

nne

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 7:13 PM, <solelysearching@...> wrote:

>

> Hello wise folks!

>

> One of the struggles my family is having is that I've been sick with one

> type of cold, cough or other respiratory gunk after another all winter

> long.

> I'm still breastfeeding my 15-month old and I don't know if that has

> something to do with it, or what but I've never been sick like this before!

> I take extra vitamin C and calcium every day, fish oil and a probiotic and

> am eating the healthiest I've ever eaten, although it is a process. My

> husband is great about letting me catch up on sleep when I can. What am I

> missing here? Is this just the fate of a lactating woman? Just as my

> daughter is getting over her cold and cough from the last week, now I'm

> getting sick. When I get sick, it's so hard to keep up on all the things it

> takes to run our household and I'm really tired of this song and dance. I

> would appreciate any suggestions you have!

>

March 22, 2011

Dr. Irons, V.E. Irons CLO

Diane M. J.D.

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Phone: 507-663-9018

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In a message dated 3/22/2011 6:22:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

solelysearching@... writes:

I was planning to switch to CLO after I finish this bottle of regular fish

oil, but have no idea where to start to choose a brand - I see that there

is

discussion of CLO right now on the list. Maybe someone could post a

" tutorial " for CLO with the relevant links, etc?

Breakfast - eggs, scrambled or fried in butter, yogurt and granola, fruit,

sourdough pancakes or waffles, clafouti or quiche

Lunch - usually a salad, or leftover dinner, cottage cheese with beans or

veggies

Dinner - soaked rice, grilled chicken, chili, homemade soup, stir fry,

spaghetti sauce & pasta, steamed or raw veggies, tacos

Those are some of the things from the last week.

I won't lie - I have definitely eaten some Easter candy in the past couple

of weeks, but my diet is the best it has EVER been, and I'm sicker than

I've

ever been. I used to eat candy every single day and now it's down to 1 or

2

days a week, and a much smaller quantity. We've been focusing on making

slow and steady changes that we can actually stick to. 5-6 months ago, we

were eating fast food 2-3 times a week. We've cut it out completely, for

example. We've switched to free range meat, free range eggs and high fat,

best quality dairy we can find.

I take a multivitamin, extra calcium, extra vitamin C, fish oil, a

probiotic, elderberry syrup and I've been treating the latest round of

respiratory gunk with various homeopathic remedies.

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:16 AM, ryan2645 <ryan2645@...> wrote:

>

> Hi , I'm sorry to hear you're having problems.

>

> Do you think you could walk us through an example of your daily diet? As

in

> what you might eat throughout the day. Then we can better guage what you

> consider to be healthy food. Be as detailed as you can.

>

> Also I know the Fermented CLO seems comparatively expensive but if you

were

> able to understand just how much you're g_etting out of the living,

fermented

> stuff, it would make buying the other oils seem like setting your money

on

> fire, we're talking the difference between thousands of compounds in the

raw

> living stuff compared with a few handfuls of warped and denatured

compounds.

> It really is worth it, there is no question about that.

>

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March 22, 2011

I was planning to switch to CLO after I finish this bottle of regular fish

oil, but have no idea where to start to choose a brand - I see that there is

discussion of CLO right now on the list. Maybe someone could post a

" tutorial " for CLO with the relevant links, etc?

Breakfast - eggs, scrambled or fried in butter, yogurt and granola, fruit,

sourdough pancakes or waffles, clafouti or quiche

Lunch - usually a salad, or leftover dinner, cottage cheese with beans or

veggies

Dinner - soaked rice, grilled chicken, chili, homemade soup, stir fry,

spaghetti sauce & pasta, steamed or raw veggies, tacos

Those are some of the things from the last week.

I won't lie - I have definitely eaten some Easter candy in the past couple

of weeks, but my diet is the best it has EVER been, and I'm sicker than I've

ever been. I used to eat candy every single day and now it's down to 1 or 2

days a week, and a much smaller quantity. We've been focusing on making

slow and steady changes that we can actually stick to. 5-6 months ago, we

were eating fast food 2-3 times a week. We've cut it out completely, for

example. We've switched to free range meat, free range eggs and high fat,

best quality dairy we can find.

I take a multivitamin, extra calcium, extra vitamin C, fish oil, a

probiotic, elderberry syrup and I've been treating the latest round of

respiratory gunk with various homeopathic remedies.

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:16 AM, ryan2645 <ryan2645@...> wrote:

>

> Hi , I'm sorry to hear you're having problems.

>

> Do you think you could walk us through an example of your daily diet? As in

> what you might eat throughout the day. Then we can better guage what you

> consider to be healthy food. Be as detailed as you can.

>

> Also I know the Fermented CLO seems comparatively expensive but if you were

> able to understand just how much you're getting out of the living, fermented

> stuff, it would make buying the other oils seem like setting your money on

> fire, we're talking the difference between thousands of compounds in the raw

> living stuff compared with a few handfuls of warped and denatured compounds.

> It really is worth it, there is no question about that.

>

March 23, 2011

" I was planning to switch to CLO after I finish this bottle of regular fish

oil, but have no idea where to start to choose a brand - I see that there is

discussion of CLO right now on the list. Maybe someone could post a

" tutorial " for CLO with the relevant links, etc?? "

There is really only one brand of CLO right now that has a product worth putting

your money towards. That is green pastures fermented Cod liver oil.

Here is everything you need to know about CLO from a WAPF point of view...

http://www.westonaprice.org/cod-liver-oil

Don't be afraid to peruse the rest of the site, it's truly a wealth of

information.

Also you can hop on our green pasture's order if you like or it looks like

Gann is doing one too very soon.

I'll consider your diet and get back with a write up of my opinion as I can.

Great job kicking the fast food,that is a big step right there. I suspect part

of your feeling lousy right now is the shedding of the potent cocktail of

chemicals in fast food, detox is just unavoidable when going from SAD to real

food. The experience can be lessened though by going gradually. I also noticed

heavy reliance on cooked and pasteurized foods. This is going to add a toxic

load and equally harmful is the enzyme tax, which your pancreas is going to pay

for. My suggestion would be to go as raw as possible until you start to feel

better, then if you'd like to change the proportions around you may do so. It's

a long term endeavor, finding out what your body likes, dislikes and can

tolerate. Will write more later when I think of it.

March 24, 2011

I want to " second the motion " to get the Green Pastures CLO. Everyone has a

favorite flavor but the only one I can easily get down is the Cinnamon Tingle.

The others, to me, are like biting into a rotten fish! The " Fermented " versions

are much stronger, much more " flavorful " but are the best bang for the buck. You

only need 2 cc a day and it comes with a measuring syringe.

The group order will save you lots of money too!

Will

March 24, 2011

:

Do you know if using a yogurt maker is nutritionally sound? I have texture

issues and can't really drink thick beverages like Kefir (even orange juice

is too thick). And my kids like yogurt, so I thought I'd try it. Is there

a way to make yogurt without a " machine " ? If I did use a machine

for convenience, is the quality the same?

Thanks,

e

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Levitz <@...>wrote:

>

> ,

> We take the cinnamon flavor

> http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/CodLiverOil/index.cfm

> . I do not like how most, if not all, of the cod liver oils are

> filtered and then add synthetic A and D back in. Green Pasture's

> products are as close to how some of my ancestors did it. I do not

> want a bucket of fermenting fish on my doorstep like they did it

> though. Here is the WAPF's dosing and brand suggestions:

> http://www.westonaprice.org/cod-liver-oil/238

>

> As for cultured foods, take baby steps.

> Yogurt: Do you like yogurt? Start there. Get or make as nourishing as

> possible.

>

> Pickles: If you like pickles, the coops and health food stores have

> cultured pickles. We also drink the pickle juice or use it as a

> starter culture instead of whey.

>

> Beet Kvass: I make beet kvass with the pickle juice as the starter

> culture instead of whey. I HATE beets, but beet kvass tastes like a

> mild pink pickle juice to me. It is really easy to make and easy to

> get cultures down our throats. (Recipe in Nourishing Traditions.)

>

> Kombucha: We love, love, love kombucha at our house. Tasting Will

> Winter's kombucha inspired us to experiment with second ferments and

> we now brew 11-13 gallons at a time. Like I said, we really like

> it. It is more labor intensive, but it is special family time or

> couple time for us and we experiment with various flavors.

>

> Water kefir: I personally did not like it much, but it is pretty easy

> to make. All you need to do is find some water grains. A lot of people

> will mail you some for the price of shipping or you can find some

> locally. You can also purchase them.

>

> Kefir: Have you tried it cultured for a shorter time? I like mine

> really pungent, but my husband can't drink it if cultured for more

> than 24 hours. I prefer to make kefir over yogurt since it is so much

> easier to make.

>

> Other Dairy Cultures: There are also these options:

> http://www.culturesforhealth.com/starter-cultures/yogurt-starter.html

> . I had a Filmjolk culture at one point that I loved (it was really

> mild and smooth), but evolved to kefir grains exclusively a few years

> back.

>

> Other NT ideas: I made the Indian punch a while back and we liked it.

> Also you could try the ginger carrots recipe, but the recipe has a

> misprint use 3 teaspoons of salt NOT 3 tablespoons. I learned that the

> hard way this week.

>

> Probiotics: If you would prefer to purchase probiotics, HMF probiotics

> have blessed my family greatly. They are the only probiotics made from

> human microflora (thus the HMF). My son had terrible IBS for years. I

> believe a compilation of a mostly tradition diet of easy to digest

> foods, cultured foods and beverages and the HMF Replete brought

> significant healing to my son's body. He can eat foods he never, ever

> could (like raw apple) and now has formed stools 98% of the time

> without any supplements.

>

> Like I said, focus on baby steps. Converting your diet or taste buds

> will not change overnight, just like your babe needs to grow one baby

> step at a time. And remember, refined foods like sugar and white flour

> will compromise your immune system. Do your best and remember that

> every day is a new day. A fresh new start.

>

> Many, Many Blessings,

> , fellow baby step taker

>

March 24, 2011

Have any of you ordered from the " Survival seed bank " ? My husband and I are

thining of placing an order but wondered if anyone here has heard of a

better way to go. I look forward to your input.

TIA,

Tifanie