Re: cancer question

[Guest guest]

Dear Jeannie - I hope I can reassure you. My ICD was implanted on March 2, 1998, after I had blacked out and totalled my car. Fortunately no one was hurt. I had already been diagnosed with cancer (a malignant tumor at the base of my tongue which was not a good candidate for surgery). By the end of March I started 7 weeks of radiation/chemotherapy treatments. My ICD behaved very well. I have only been zapped twice--once in June of '98 about a month after I had completed treatment and once in Oct of that year. My doctor did some reprogramming. Since that time I have several surgeries under general anathesia and other procedures with no ICD problems that I am aware of. Lots of luck to you. Beverly

Cancer Question

Dear Fellow Zappies: I have (my latest) a medtronic IPCD (pacer included) that was put in on (Open heart sewn on patches) Oct 99. No shock lots of charging this go round.

My question is - Has anyone faced having Cancer and subsequent chemo/radiation treatments with their ICD's?

I have lung cancer and know what will happen surgically as I had breast cancer back in Jul 99 (yup I have the dates right.)

I'm a little worried about being on a respirator with the device on and I'm also wondering how changing my bodies chemistry might affect it.

My Illness is: Idiopathic Electrical Malfunction resulting in SCD's. (155 so far.)

Thanks for any information- I am only on 125 mg of Atenolol a day. No heart disease they say.

Love, JeanniePlease visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

[Guest guest]

Beverly: Oh thank you for your response. I too have had several surgeries but was quite concerned about changing the chemical levels and my device. I feel much better now. Bless you. Love, Jeannie

Re: Cancer Question

Dear Jeannie - I hope I can reassure you. My ICD was implanted on March 2, 1998, after I had blacked out and totalled my car. Fortunately no

[Guest guest]

Ellen,

We are sorry to hear about your father. Best wishes on his care and

recovery.

I don't know about the rest of this list, but I would be interested in

learning more about what this doctor prescribes for diet, care, etc. for

your father when you find out.

But, there is also a Dr. Block in Chicago who has great results that he

attributes to diet supplements and changes (in addition to the standard

chemo-therapies). He is also interested in HBOT for cancer, but there

really are no compelling research to back this up, yet.

Happy Holidays!

Ed Nemeth

At 12:25 AM 12/26/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>Dear list, About a year a go there was some discussion about a cancer

>doctor in or around Houston, TX having good results using diet, etc. I

>have misplaced his name. Could you please re-send this information,

>privately, if you prefer, e_elley@... My father has just been

>diagnosed. Thank you, Ellen

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> In addition to or besides ozone:

>

> If you had cancer, what would you do, provided money was not an issue.

>

> And what would you do if money was an issue?

>

> Please provide links, when recommending products.

Dear Donna,

Of course, if I had cancer, I would immediately undertake to

become more knowledgable than I am now about cancer treatments.

So, given my current rather lacking knowledge, this is what I

would do, or consider:

1. ozone (which you list as a 'given')

2. some form of raw food diet or fast the like -- this might

be Gerson, or it might be at OHI, or it might be a fast

supervised by a natural hygiene clinic (I'm sorry, I can't

find the link I'm looking for, for that.) And I don't mean to

exclude enemas / colonics / implants -- I'm just sort of

lumping together lots of fasting/cleansing types of things.

http://www.optimumhealth.org/

3. black salve--- I know very little about this, but it is

certainly on my list of things that sound very promising.

That is my " first take " on the list of obvious things.

Depending on circumstances, going to a clinic (such as

Dr. Donsbach) would also be a possibility.

http://www.hospitalsantamonica.com/

As I think about this, if I had cancer I would probably also

use H202 somewhat more than is my usual practice, and I'd

be likely to do more " cleanses " (e.g. Schulze) than is my

usual practice. I expect I'd work on what form of daily

exercise would be supportive, and (since you said money is

no object) I would get massages and acupunture frequently.

I would also look closely at heat therapies--- beginning

with sauna (already available to me for free), hot baths

(easy), hot baths with hot herbs (easy) and so on.

If someone I cared about and who would listen to me had cancer,

and asked me what to do, my answers would also vary depending

on their circumstances, resources, ability to do things themselves,

and so on. Even someone willing to use ozone, but who has

never heard of it before, might be better off at Hospital

Santa (vs at home).

best,

Moria

[Guest guest]

Dear Donna,

Aloe vera is at the top of the list nutritionally.

No money: hot and cold showers; cold sheet treatment

Lots of money: ozone sauna

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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Subject: Cancer question

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 02:09:38 -0800

In addition to or besides ozone:

If you had cancer, what would you do, provided money was not an issue.

And what would you do if money was an issue?

Please provide links, when recommending products.

Thanks all,

Donna

http://www.excellentthings.com

[Guest guest]

Dear Donna,

Oh yeah, and liver flushes every two weeks.

Homozon is a good idea too, to get the colon cleaned out.

Ozone colonics are excellent....

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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oxyplus

Subject: RE: Cancer question

Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 00:51:56 +0000

Dear Donna,

Aloe vera is at the top of the list nutritionally.

No money: hot and cold showers; cold sheet treatment

Lots of money: ozone sauna

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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<oxyplus >

Subject: Cancer question

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 02:09:38 -0800

In addition to or besides ozone:

If you had cancer, what would you do, provided money was not an issue.

And what would you do if money was an issue?

Please provide links, when recommending products.

Thanks all,

Donna

http://www.excellentthings.com

[Guest guest]

Donna,

I found this article interesting - by a recovered Gerson treated

melanoma patient:

http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Regular/bishop73.htm

Her book:

http://essence-euro.org/aips/congres/cancer2000/biblio/eng/bishop.html

Another case study:

http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Case%20Studies/matthews77.htm

A review of one of the books the Gerson Institute sells:

http://www.positivehealth.com/Reviews/books/gerson76.htm

A review of a book by another person who incorporated parts of the

Gerson Therapy into his program:

http://www.positivehealth.com/Reviews/books/tosh74.htm

His case study:

http://www.canceraction.org.gg/005.htm

I'll stop there - these are good to read as they are real and encouraging.

Sue

>

> >

>> > In addition to or besides ozone:

>> >

>> > If you had cancer, what would you do, provided

>> money was not an issue.

>> >

>> > And what would you do if money was an issue?

>> >

>

> > > Please provide links, when recommending products.

>>

>

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Sue Thomson Phone 07 3356 6271

6 Antill Street Mobile 04 0946 6271

Wilston QLD 4051 Fax 07 3352 6619

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[Guest guest]

Saul, How does the hot and cold thing work on cancer?

Thanks

Donna

http://www.excellentthings.com

Cancer question

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 02:09:38 -0800

In addition to or besides ozone:

If you had cancer, what would you do, provided money was not an issue.

And what would you do if money was an issue?

Please provide links, when recommending products.

Thanks all,

Donna

http://www.excellentthings.com

[Guest guest]

Dear Donna,

This is an old treatment, used for many ailments.

It causes flushing to the skin of the blood, and then returning it to the

core.

This action liberates toxins and causes more oxygenation of the blood, and

this process has been used to overcome severe illnesses, back in the times

before there were other treatments.

Dr. Schulze ius an advocate of this therapy, and has information on hjis

site, I believe.

Do a google search for him.

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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Subject: Re: Cancer question

Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 04:39:40 -0800

Saul, How does the hot and cold thing work on cancer?

Thanks

Donna

http://www.excellentthings.com

Cancer question

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 02:09:38 -0800

In addition to or besides ozone:

If you had cancer, what would you do, provided money was not an issue.

And what would you do if money was an issue?

Please provide links, when recommending products.

Thanks all,

Donna

http://www.excellentthings.com

[Guest guest]

Hello

Yes.

We Pranic Healers can scan and find out. The likes of myself can do one better

since we clairvoyantly see and know the degree of malignancy. This quick

question concerns a patient who has a malignancy of the colon which can spread

pretty fast to the intestines.

Sufferance is in order more than death which is really only the curtain calls in

this cycle of births and rebirths.

If you really want me to give you a detailed reading or diagnosis prior to

treatment the charges are 250$ payable by western union to me. I will make known

the procedure for treatment and the medicines or bio-dietary supplements that

can hasten the cure and make less the discomfort.

It is the quality and how you live life that counts Nawaf Ali Sir and not the

degree or quantity or number of years and the successes

Allah Mallik Hai

yours sincerely

Nayanika Romanyuk

Cancer Question

>

> Hello,

>

> I have a quick question. Is it possible to discover a form of cancer in a

male patient in his 30s (non-smoker, non-drinker) in a very late stage that the

doctors would estimate the patient's death in a short period such as one to

three months???

>

> Is it possible to happen this way? Did it happen before?

>

> Thank you.

>

>

> Nawaf Al-Janahi

> www.njan7.com

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Autos new Car

Finder tool.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Cancer Question

>

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > I have a quick question. Is it possible to discover a form of cancer in a

male patient in his 30s (non-smoker, non-drinker) in a very late stage that the

doctors would estimate the patient's death in a short period such as one to

three months???

> >

> > Is it possible to happen this way? Did it happen before?

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> >

> > Nawaf Al-Janahi

> > www.njan7.com

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Autos new Car

Finder tool.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Nawaf,

If you choose conventional chemotherapy then your doctor can

quite accurately determine when you are to die. This is due to the

toxicity of most chemo and to the self-fulfilling prophesy of cancer

staging. When a cancer is " advanced " then conventional treatment

choices are limited to the palliative which is, of course, a death warrant.

If you choose an alternative protocol, your guess at prognosis

is probably more accurate than your doctor's.

At 03:49 AM 7/12/2007, you wrote:

>Hello,

>

>I have a quick question. Is it possible to discover a form of cancer

>in a male patient in his 30s (non-smoker, non-drinker) in a very

>late stage that the doctors would estimate the patient's death in a

>short period such as one to three months???

>

>Is it possible to happen this way? Did it happen before?

>

>Thank you.

>

>Nawaf Al-Janahi

>www.njan7.com

[Guest guest]

Thanks but I am already seeing a super accurate Healer that is a friend of the

family and she said that with all the info she took from my saliva that the

tumor must have significantly shrunk. My surgeon has reordered a follow up

catscan on the 18th of July and cancelled the surgery awaiting that info. So she

feels the natural products I am already using is working on the Cancer. I will

let the group know all of the ingredients when all the tumer disappears

Bill

--------- Cancer Question

> >

> > >

> > > Hello,

> > >

> > > I have a quick question. Is it possible to discover a form of cancer in a

> male patient in his 30s (non-smoker, non-drinker) in a very late stage that

the

> doctors would estimate the patient's death in a short period such as one to

> three months???

> > >

> > > Is it possible to happen this way? Did it happen before?

> > >

> > > Thank you.

> > >

> > >

> > > Nawaf Al-Janahi

> > > www.njan7.com

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Autos new Car

> Finder tool.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

The person may want to try the Dr Joanna Budwig formula that worked for late

stage cancer . You can find the website with info by typing

drjoannabudwig

in google search. Make sure it is the one that says Joanna budwig in the website

and is 2 pages with clickable

Experiment

and

Biography

That is all natural and very cheap .

I sincerely believe it is working for me as my surgeon scheduled a second

catscan on my for later this month and cancelled my surgury pending the catscan.

w.wilkins@...

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From: Nawaf Al-Janahi <nawaf_aljanahi@...>

Hello,

I have a quick question. Is it possible to discover a form of cancer in a male

patient in his 30s (non-smoker, non-drinker) in a very late stage that the

doctors would estimate the patient's death in a short period such as one to

three months???

Is it possible to happen this way? Did it happen before?

Thank you.

Nawaf Al-Janahi

www.njan7.com

---------------------------------

Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Autos new Car Finder

tool.

[Guest guest]

" In Extremis: First Aid for Advanced Cancer " :

http://www.canceraction.org.gg/inext.htm

More info: File on intravenous vitamin C in he Files section of the

group. (Also, I would be happy to email you more info.)

        Posted by: " Nawaf Al-Janahi "

nawaf_aljanahi@... nawaf_aljanahi   Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:50

am ((PDT))

Hello,

    I have a quick question. Is it possible to discover a form

of cancer in a male patient in his 30s (non-smoker, non-drinker) in a

very late stage that the doctors would estimate the patient's death in a

short period such as one to three months???

    Is it possible to happen this way? Did it happen before?

    Thank you.

Nawaf Al-Janahi

www.njan7.com

[Guest guest]

Hello!

What doctors do by learning, gifted people do by " sight " . My wife is one of

them, athough she is medically trained as well.

Shee 'sees' (and 'knows' from a distance) what the matter is with her clients,

and she is able to guide through the healing process, or cure .. I have

experienced more than once that she -on the phone- mentioned things concerning

health to people far away.

My wife was recently called abroad, to heal for three weeks, different kinds of

ailments (not all medical). And this happens repeatedly.

Based on this, and on our Reflexology and Bio-energetics training, we run a

(beginning) healthcenter in Medellin.

For more information, please write to

luzyleo@...

Good Wishes,

Luz y Leo,

Medellin, Colombia

cures for cancer@...: nawaf_aljanahi@...: Thu, 12 Jul

2007 03:49:20 -0700Subject: Cancer Question

Hello,I have a quick question. Is it possible to discover a form of cancer in a

male patient in his 30s (non-smoker, non-drinker) in a very late stage that the

doctors would estimate the patient's death in a short period such as one to

three months???Is it possible to happen this way? Did it happen before?Thank

you.Nawaf Al-Janahiwww.njan7.com---------------------------------Choose the

right car based on your needs. Check out Autos new Car Finder

tool.

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzie,

you wrote:

>Does anyone have any info if candida treatments could've helped.

Well, there are some doctors who are convinced that candida IS cancer, and I

find their arguments at least very interesting.

The strongest advocate of this position is Dr.Simoncini from Italy.

This is his website: http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/

You might do some reading, if you are interested.

Under

http://www.curenaturalicancro.org/is_cancer_contagious.htm

there is a story about the connection of leukemia with cancer.

Under

http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Loxygen2.htm

you will find the article ŒThe Prime Cause & Prevention of Cancer by

Warburg¹ by nobel prize winner Otto Warburg. What I found remarkable are

these sentences:

ŒThe prime cause of cancer is the replacement of the respiration of oxygen

(oxidation of sugar) in normal body cells by fermentation of sugar.

All normal body cells meet their energy needs by respiration of oxygen,

whereas cancer cells meet their energy needs in great part by fermentation.¹

Hum ... fermentation of sugar .... does that remind us of something ?

good reading,

[Guest guest]

Thank you very much. Since the child died it won't do much good now. I

wish I could've given the mom this info sooner, wish I had known.

Thank you again.

Suzie

>

> >Does anyone have any info if candida treatments could've helped.

>

> Well, there are some doctors who are convinced that candida IS

cancer, and I

> find their arguments at least very interesting.

>

>

> The strongest advocate of this position is Dr.Simoncini from Italy.

>

> This is his website: http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/

>

> You might do some reading, if you are interested.

>

>

> Under

> http://www.curenaturalicancro.org/is_cancer_contagious.htm

> there is a story about the connection of leukemia with cancer.

>

> Under

> http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Loxygen2.htm

> you will find the article ŒThe Prime Cause & Prevention of Cancer by

> Warburg¹ by nobel prize winner Otto Warburg. What I found remarkable are

> these sentences:

>

> ŒThe prime cause of cancer is the replacement of the respiration of

oxygen

> (oxidation of sugar) in normal body cells by fermentation of sugar.

> All normal body cells meet their energy needs by respiration of oxygen,

> whereas cancer cells meet their energy needs in great part by

fermentation.¹

>

>

> Hum ... fermentation of sugar .... does that remind us of something ?

>

> good reading,

>

>

>

>