Guest guest Posted April 16, 2001 Report Share Posted April 16, 2001 From: " sey (by way of ilena rose) " <fuchsmorrissey@...> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 6:16 PM Subject: PLEASE POST~~RE:HARVARD STUDY~MGUS/MULTIPLE MYELOMA > Ilena please post this to all as my concerns are valid for ALL breast > implant exposed women and their children who took " hits " via the placental > barrier through fetal cells in autoimmunity. MY QUESTION: Why did the > Harvard researchers with their so-called " new " MGUS/MYELOMA study NOT AT ALL > address the genetic susceptibility issues of myeloma and silicone gel breast > implants? PLEASE NOTE STUDY: NCI/1994 Induction of Plasmacytomas With > Silicone Gel In Genetically Susceptible Strains of Mice, M. Potter, S. > on, F. Wiener, X.F.Zhang, and F.W. (Dr.FRED MILLER who many > know.He has done his study on myeloma. Remember?)ALSO NOTE: > EDITORIALS~Silicone Gel, Induction of Plasma Cell Tumors, and Genetic > Susceptibility in Mice:GENETIC SUSCEPTIBLITY IS A KEY WORD TO TAKE NOTE > OF... a Call for Epidemlologic Investigation of Women with Silicone Breast > Implants, S.E. Salmon, R.A. (both myeloma specialists). This editorial > clearly states " perhaps some reassurance can be gotten from the fact that > experimental plasmacytomas can be induced only under...conditions in > GENETICALLY SUSCEPTIBLE MICE " . WE ARE TALKING ABOUT " ENHANCEMENT " OF > AUTOIMMUNITY HERE! NOTE:genetically susceptible! It goes on to state,If the > same is true (and it is a big " IF " ), then most women with implants are > probably not at increased risk for MGUS and multiple myeloma. SO AGAIN, in > the HARVARD STUDY where does it address the genetic susceptibility > part/issues? The Harvard study, I feel DISTORTED the study and its findings > with their " MEDICAL WORDS OF ART " dismissing and not addressing the genetic > susceptiblility part with MGUS/MYELOMA and breast implants. Did the Harvard > researchers do a very, VERY detailed genetic pedigree/genetic histories on > ALL OF THEIR HUMAN RESEARCH SUBJECTS? OOPS, they failed to address this > issue also. MY own grandmother (she also had RA, " clustering " of > autoimmunity) and mom both died from myeloma, were both smokers...I, to date > have MS, asthma, a poorly defined CTD, problems in my spine at L4,L5, have > had a elevated IgM & had 3M/McGhan implants from 1976-1993, ending in a > mastectomy in 1993. But even with the MS/multiple sclerosis I have to date, > that did NOT show up until 1998 with abnormal MRI's of my brain! My very > first ever MRI of my brain was NORMAL in 1995. Then in 1998 there was a huge > change...I was a late bloomer! I am dealing with ENHANCED > autoimmunity/chemically~induced autoimmunity as are our children. AND THIS > FAMILY IS NOT ALONE AT ALL AS THERE ARE SO MANY OTHERS! I guess I am a LATE > BLOOMER with diseases! Maybe I am a late bloomer for getting myeloma too! > Time will indeed tell. I am not worried, because I have life to live! Just > want to say I feel that Harvard researchers are missing the boat with > ENHANCED autoimmunity, genetics and failed to address MGUS, myeloma, > silicone breast implants and the genetic predispostion! They distorted their > findings with " medical words of art " . SO WHAT IS NEW? And I should not have > a child with scleroderma, a swallowing disorder and an " acral bone > dysplasia " to this damning degree which this little girl, our has, as > did she & two her sisters took " hits " of this adjuvant via the placental > barrier through fetal cells in autoimmunity along with the time factor of > exposure. Genetics was the foundation, NOT THE CAUSE. The " cause " was the > environmental trigger/time factor of exposure (RE: from silicone breast > implants)...Different triggers produce DIFFERENT symptoms, sometimes UNIQUE > symptoms. And no, you do not have to aggree with my words. This is my own > personal viewpoints and expressed concerning with what I have personally > lived in my own life. My concerns are VALID! Take care, > > > >From: " sey " <fuchsmorrissey@...> (by way of ilena rose) > >Recipient List Suppressed:; > >Subject: BREAST IMPLANTS ARE THE ENHANCEMENT OF THE IMMUNE SYSTEM > >Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:46:06 -0700 > > > >IILENA, PLEASE POST TO ALL. LADIES PLEASE REMEMBER WHEN YOU READ THIS STUDY > >BELOW THAT WAS POSTED ON THE MYELOMA LIST I AM ON: An adjuvant is a > >substance that can ENHANCE the immune response to a foreign material (such > >as a protein). REMEMBER: ENHANCE, ( " enhance " is the important " medical word > >of art " chosen in this saying)... ENHANCE a foreign material (silicone) > >such > >as a protein~ which protein excesses are common in many diseases, PRIMARILY > >THOSE THAT STIMULATE THE IMMUNE SYSTEM, SUCH AS LUPUS, MULTIPLE MYELOMA/MM > >AND SIMILAR CONDITIONS...similar conditions like RA, MS AND > >SCLERODERMA/ " clustering " of autoimmunity besides lupus and myeloma. I feel > >that not alot with the exposure to breast implants will get myeloma only > >those with the genetic predispostion, BUT BREAST IMPLANTS WILL INDEED > >ENHANCE THE IMMUNE RESPONSE as we are ALL dealing with the total > >ENHANCEMENT > >of ones immune response whether end result is " classic autoimmunity " or > > " not > >classic autoimmunity " . I do see this as we are living it as my maternal > >grandmother who had very, very bad RA/ " clustering " of autoimmunity died > >from > >myeloma. My mother died from myeloma June1994. They both were smokers, took > > " hits " of a different trigger smoking: Aflatoxin/aspergillus flavus, > >Tobacco, Ammonia, The p-53 Tumor Suppressor Gene, which is cancer's missing > >link. My children and I were exposed to breast implants. These children > >took > > " hits " via the placental barrier through fetal cells in autoimmunity. > >Breast > >feeding was extra " hits " . I have MS, asthma, a poorly defined CTD, > >problems > >in the spine at L4-L5 and more. Our daughters have health concerns. Our 10 > >yr old has scleroderma (scleroderma runs hand-in-hand with silica > >exposure), > >a swallowing disorder and an " acral bone dysplasia " (silica binds the > >bone). > >I will go further as I question MICROCHIMERISM/GVHD~FETAL CELLS IN > >AUTOIMMUNITY. Microchimerism which refers to " the presence of foreign cells > >in one's body. So put microchimerism which is the presence of foreign cells > >in one's body along with taking " hits " of foreign protein excesses > >(silicone > >in this case) along with a genetic predisposition/ " clustering " of > >autoimmunity and a POSSIBLE " TWO HIT " THEORY...Then how many " hits " does it > >take to cross the threshold to the chronic/defined disease? " Two hits " , > > " five hits " , " ten hits " or more? AND what about HERVs, ALU and jumping > >genes > >in this whole process? END RESULT, I feel will indeed be the enhancement > >of > >the immune system, plain and simple! CAUSATION OF SILICONE is the > >ENHANCEMENT OF THE IMMUNE RESPONSE! AND different triggers will produce > >different symptoms, sometime UNIQUE symptoms. Living this 24/7 in my own > >family. These researchers from Harvard as others need to look at the big > >picture of the ENHANCEMENT OF THE IMMUNE RESPONSE. Which is the immune > >system only going through the proper changes given the environmental > >trigger/time factor of exposure which is ENHANCING the immune system > >totally. Because the enhancement the immune system goes out of control as > >it > >was programmed in a different way, seeing what it was exposed to, in this > >case silicone breast implants! Researchers care to see what they wish to > >see...and the medical mind should not/CAN NOT be made up once and for all > >that breast implants are " safe " and have an " acceptable risk " . They are not > >safe, nor have an acceptable risk IF one wishes to OBSERVE WELL with that > >open-mind which is indeed VITAl to medicine, science and research to uphold > >itself to that higher standard of DO NO HARM. Breast implants ENHANCE the > >immune system. Take care, Fuchs-sey > >Fuchssey@... > > > > > > >From: " Kathleen Beymer " <kjbeymer@...> > > > " IMF List " <myeloma@...>, " MMA List " > > ><myeloma@...> > > >Subject: [MMA] No Link Seen Between > > >Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:14:08 -0800 > > > > > >Multiple Myeloma Association (MMA) - > > >http://www.webspawner.com/users/myelomaexchange/ > > > > > >--------------------------- ListBot Sponsor -------------------------- > > >Build a marketing database and send targeted HTML and text e-mail > > >newsletters > > >to your customers with List Builder. > > >http://www.listbuilder.com > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >No Link Seen Between > > >MGUS and Breast Implants > > >------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >BOSTON--The purported association between breast implants and > > >monoclonal gammopathy of undetermined significance seems to > > >be fading. > > > > > > A Harvard team reported that the rate of MGUS was comparable > > >among 288 women who'd had or still had breast > > >implants and 288 women who'd never had implants-five vs. four > > >patients. > > > > > > It was the sixth study, though the first cohort study using > > >stored blood samples instead of medical records, to find no > > >association. In contrast, three case series and the National > > >Cancer Institute's registry, all reported in 1996, reported an > > >association. > > > > > > The nine with MGUS came from the 32,826 women in the > > >prospective Nurses' Health Study who provided 30 ml of blood in > > >1988 for future research. None of the nine had developed > > >multiple myeloma or other hematologic disease by 1996, reported > > >rheumatologist W. Karlson of Brigham and Women's and > > >olleagues in the March 26 Archives of Internal Medicine. > > >Eventually 24% of women with MGUS develop multiple myeloma, > > >macroglobulinemia, amyloidosis, or related diseases. > > > > > > Among the five women with implants who developed MGUS, three > > >had devices filled with silicone gel, though a separate analysis > > >showed no significant association between this kind of device > > >and MGUS. One woman had a saline implant and the other was unknown. > > > > > > The five women averaged eight years older than the four in the > > >control group with MGUS. The investigstors said this indicated > > >that implants do not cause MGUS at a younger than expected age. > > >Other reports found multiple myeloma developing at unusually > > >young ages among women with silicone breast implants. > > > > > > > > >______________________________________________________________________ > > >To unsubscribe, write to myeloma-unsubscribe@... > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com'>http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com'>http://explorer.msn.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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