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here's one for you jim. how does one purge nasty nasty cecum sludge without a

colonic. i've heard of the chinese using papaya (seeds and all mixed with hot

peppers).

nausea, in my experience, is simply when you have bad things lying around in

your colon. also another question: how does one eliminate anxiety associated

wth worm die off. this is an enormous problem for me.

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Dear patty,

I would say that you probably need a further liver cleanse.

This time use the epsom salts.

Nausea is usually related to the liver.

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them " . - Einstein

Homozon

> Does anyone else get that nausea feeling after taking Homozon? I haven't

been taking it very long now, but when I do, I almost feeling like hurling.

I am afraid it will only get worse as I go.

>

> I had a similar feeling when I was taking liquid calcium a few years ago.

I quit taking the calcium after listening to my body. I haven't taken

calcium since then, but have been considering it, knowing how important it

is.

>

> I also got that feeling after doing a liver cleanse (the Hulda

variety, except that I subsituted magnesium citrate for epsom salts.) Now,

if I even look at a bottle of magnesium citrate I want to hurl.

>

> Do you think my body is telling me that I have:

> 1) enough minerals and I am overdoing it? Especially magnesium?

>

> 2) a mineral imbalance that needs to be checked?

>

> What is the best way to check for mineral levels in the body (without

going to a regular MD?) Do naturopath's have a test that is easy and cheap?

> Thanks all....

> Patty

>

>

>

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Whenever anyone feels nauseous it means the ileocecal valve has locked

shut. The GI tract has a bunch of closing mechanisms along the way,

called sphincters. The mouth and the anus are perfect examples. THere is

one at the bottom of the stomach, where food moves from the stomach to

the duodenum. And another, the ileocecal, between the large & small

intestine.

Its function is to allow peristalsis to move food from the small to the

large intestine, but hopefully not back. WHen it locks open you get

diarrhea. When it locks closed you get constipated and feel nauseous.

The nausea is because the brain knows the food fermenting in the stomach

is not going anywhere, because until the ileocecal opens, the food can't

leave the stomach. And, it's still fermenting. Get friendly with a

bucket quick.

The ileocecal is 1/2 " from the apendix and on the orher side 1/2 " from

the ovaries, in a woman. I believe morning sickness is a proximity thing

betweent the ovaries & the ileocecal. Resetting the ileocecal should

eliminate morning sickness.

Anyway, that is the source of the nausea, so don't go off on a

metaphysical tangent thinking your body is sending you clear signals.

The whole idea that your body knows what to eat or not is predicated on

eating SINGLE foods. As soon as one eats a combined food, like bread,

the body loses all wisdom with everything! If you were healthy enough to

trust your body's evey craving or repulsion you would never have thought

to take Homozon in the first place, IMO.

jim :)

luckower@... wrote:

>

> kinesiology is a great way to check anything. but like anything else, nothing

> exists in a vacuum. getting the exact right form of magnesium is important.

> also taking the right ratio of calcium to magnesium is also important. have

> you tried an epsom salt bath. i think you can absorb it through your skin. i

> did get that sick feeling from homozon as well. im pretty sure it was just an

> intense cleansing reaction. nevertheless it was enough to keep me away from

> it. you might be allergic to the particular form of magnesium you are taking.

> you might be taking too much. you might be taking the exact correct form and

> just having a cleansing response. i have tried magnesium glycinate, cell

> mins, KAL dolomite powder, magnesium atp, and liquid magnesium sulfate. the

> cell mins did wonders for me. whenever i o.d. on magnesium i just get

> diarrhea, never anything more than that.

>

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Interesting theory Jim, here's another angle;

The Price Moms Pay for Healthy Babies

ITHACA, NEW YORK-

Since the 1970s, there have been theories that morning sickness is a

protective mechanism that keeps women from ingesting foods that can cause

fetal injury or abortion. A closer look at the data now supports these

theories.

Researchers have found that women who experience morning sickness are less

likely to miscarry than those who do not, and those who vomit suffer even

fewer miscarriages than those who experience nausea alone.

Morning sickness occurs most frequently during the first trimester, when the

fetus is most susceptible to the effects of chemicals and various

microorganisms. This nausea causes the greatest aversion to meats, fish,

poultry, and eggs. Not surprisingly, these are the foods the most

susceptible to spoilage and parasitic infestation. (Q Rev BioI 00;75(2):1 1

3-48)

P.M.

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> The ileocecal is 1/2 " from the apendix and on the orher side 1/2 " from

> the ovaries, in a woman. I believe morning sickness is a proximity thing

> betweent the ovaries & the ileocecal. Resetting the ileocecal should

> eliminate morning sickness.

>

> jim :)

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luckower@... wrote:

>

> here's one for you jim. how does one purge nasty nasty cecum sludge without a

> colonic.

Try Homozon. Do it til you are doing big doses. Do it until until you

don't have to wonder where a toilet is before you take it. ;-)

> nausea, in my experience, is simply when you have bad things lying around in

> your colon.

I explained what nausea is. You are describing something that can

trigger the mechanism I described. The ileocecal going out of whack is

usually triggered by the kidney or gall bladder, but regardless the

reason, the ileocecal valve locking closed is necessary to make one

nauseous, and resetting it releives the nausea. And, to forestall

questions on how to reset it, one needs to be taught in person. Period.

also another question: how does one eliminate anxiety associated

> wth worm die off. this is an enormous problem for me.

I deal with anxiety be telling myself to ignore it, listening to music,

watching TV or some other distraction. I am not being flippant.

jim :)

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In Mexico women get a chunk of pure magnesium & suck on it when they

experience morning sickness. It works like a charm. About equivalent to

rinsing your mouth out with milk of magnesia. I wonder now if

magnesium deficiency plays a role.

jim :)

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>

> Interesting theory Jim, here's another angle;

>

> The Price Moms Pay for Healthy Babies

> ITHACA, NEW YORK-

>

> Since the 1970s, there have been theories that morning sickness is a

> protective mechanism that keeps women from ingesting foods that can cause

> fetal injury or abortion. A closer look at the data now supports these

> theories.

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Dennis,

You can get it for $26 mail order from Azure standard. Someone else will

have to post their phone number, as I haven't installed a word processor

on my new PC, and that is where I keep such info.

jim :)

superflous1@... wrote:

>

> costs $40 for 5 ounces in my. shasta, ca.

> any better prices?

>

> Dennis

>

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Dear Dennis,

I have Azure Standard at 541-467-2230.

Best of Health!

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email: saul@...

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Scot,

Distilled water only. Ozone can react with metals in spring water,

possible making a compound you wouldn't want. And, you don't know what

the metals in your water are, so you can't guess the possibilities.

jim :)

scotd1@... wrote:

>

> Should homozon be taken in distilled water or is spring water okay?

> Scot

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So where does one get homozon and is it MLM?

<< Dr.Eugene Blass

the person that brought homozon into America in

1930 used homozon >>

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Actually Christel, this is the normal outcome from what I've heard. I think

it eases off though.

wes

> I have a question on Homozon. Need feedback from anyone who used it, PLEASE.

> I started to use it 10 days ago and I can't handle the watery outcome

> anymore. All day and night to the point I barely make it to the bathroom.

> Surely that is not normal.

> Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

> Thank you,

> Christel

=^ )

w/peace

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Why not try MSO from www.magnetizer.com ?

In addition, drink negatively - magnetized water. Reduces urination because

of better utilization of water in the cells.

Ronen.

Re: Re: homozon

> Actually Christel, this is the normal outcome from what I've heard. I

think

> it eases off though.

> wes

>

> > I have a question on Homozon. Need feedback from anyone who used it,

PLEASE.

> > I started to use it 10 days ago and I can't handle the watery outcome

> > anymore. All day and night to the point I barely make it to the

bathroom.

> > Surely that is not normal.

> > Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

> > Thank you,

> > Christel

>

>

> =^ )

> w/peace

> wes bennett

> wesbenn@...

> <A HREF= " http://www.ascent.net/wesbenn/welcome.htm " >wes bennett

photography /

> digital imaging</A>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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other alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

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are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing

information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your

own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to

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In a message dated 12/19/2000 7:04:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,

green1@... writes:

<< one or two TEAspoons daily of the stuff to be more

manageable. On that dosage I was having one or two loose bowel movements

daily. >>

Thanks very much for your response, that is what I am taking, 2 teaspoons

twice a day. excreting nothing but water.

Right now I am not taking any, can't handle it any more.

Christel

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In a message dated 12/19/2000 7:05:01 PM Central Standard Time,

green1@... writes:

<< Dear Ronen,

The " watery outcome " that Christel's talking about isn't urine ;-))

Christel, the runny stool comes with the territory. I experienced something

like what you're talking about on a dosage of 2 tablespoons of Homozon per

day, but found one or two TEAspoons daily of the stuff to be more

manageable. On that dosage I was having one or two loose bowel movements

daily. >>

____________

I have gotten this about 5 times. Is it me or the list that has a problem?

Edith

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In a message dated 12/19/2000 8:32:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ejohns9525@... writes:

<< I have gotten this about 5 times. Is it me or the list that has a problem?

Edith >>

Edith, it must be the list. I have received it 5times too, Christel

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In a message dated 12/19/2000 7:04:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,

green1@... writes:

<< one or two TEAspoons daily of the stuff to be more

manageable. On that dosage I was having one or two loose bowel movements

daily. >>

Thanks very much for your response, that is what I am taking, 2 teaspoons

twice a day. excreting nothing but water.

Right now I am not taking any, can't handle it any more.

Christel

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Dear Ronen,

The " watery outcome " that Christel's talking about isn't urine ;-))

Christel, the runny stool comes with the territory. I experienced something

like what you're talking about on a dosage of 2 tablespoons of Homozon per day,

but found one or two TEAspoons daily of the stuff to be more manageable. On

that dosage I was having one or two loose bowel movements daily.

I'd reduce the dose to what I could manage, and time it to maximize my

convenience.

At the same time, I'd realize that the benefits of Homozon use are directly

proportional to the amount taken, and that there's a world of difference between

the teaspoon level and the tablespoon level of detox action.

I've heard it said that the laxative effect diminishes as one's colon gets

cleaned of accumulated " plaque, " and I know the Blass literature promotes that

idea, but that hasn't been my experience in several months of regular Homozon

use, or what I've observed in others.

Can anyone on-list report reduction of the laxative effect over time from their

own experience?

My main problem with Homozon has always been getting it down. Just THINKING

about it makes me gag.

Green

~^~^~^~^

Ronen wrote:

Why not try MSO from www.magnetizer.com ?

In addition, drink negatively - magnetized water. Reduces urination because

of better utilization of water in the cells.

Ronen.

Re: Re: homozon

> Actually Christel, this is the normal outcome from what I've heard. I

think

> it eases off though.

> wes

>

> > I have a question on Homozon. Need feedback from anyone who used it,

PLEASE.

> > I started to use it 10 days ago and I can't handle the watery outcome

> > anymore. All day and night to the point I barely make it to the

bathroom.

> > Surely that is not normal.

> > Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

> > Thank you,

> > Christel

>

>

> =^ )

> w/peace

> wes bennett

> wesbenn@...

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Dear Ronen,

The " watery outcome " that Christel's talking about isn't urine ;-))

Christel, the runny stool comes with the territory. I experienced something

like what you're talking about on a dosage of 2 tablespoons of Homozon per day,

but found one or two TEAspoons daily of the stuff to be more manageable. On

that dosage I was having one or two loose bowel movements daily.

I'd reduce the dose to what I could manage, and time it to maximize my

convenience.

At the same time, I'd realize that the benefits of Homozon use are directly

proportional to the amount taken, and that there's a world of difference between

the teaspoon level and the tablespoon level of detox action.

I've heard it said that the laxative effect diminishes as one's colon gets

cleaned of accumulated " plaque, " and I know the Blass literature promotes that

idea, but that hasn't been my experience in several months of regular Homozon

use, or what I've observed in others.

Can anyone on-list report reduction of the laxative effect over time from their

own experience?

My main problem with Homozon has always been getting it down. Just THINKING

about it makes me gag.

Green

~^~^~^~^

Ronen wrote:

Why not try MSO from www.magnetizer.com ?

In addition, drink negatively - magnetized water. Reduces urination because

of better utilization of water in the cells.

Ronen.

Re: Re: homozon

> Actually Christel, this is the normal outcome from what I've heard. I

think

> it eases off though.

> wes

>

> > I have a question on Homozon. Need feedback from anyone who used it,

PLEASE.

> > I started to use it 10 days ago and I can't handle the watery outcome

> > anymore. All day and night to the point I barely make it to the

bathroom.

> > Surely that is not normal.

> > Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

> > Thank you,

> > Christel

>

>

> =^ )

> w/peace

> wes bennett

> wesbenn@...

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Dear Ronen,

The " watery outcome " that Christel's talking about isn't urine ;-))

Christel, the runny stool comes with the territory. I experienced something

like what you're talking about on a dosage of 2 tablespoons of Homozon per day,

but found one or two TEAspoons daily of the stuff to be more manageable. On

that dosage I was having one or two loose bowel movements daily.

I'd reduce the dose to what I could manage, and time it to maximize my

convenience.

At the same time, I'd realize that the benefits of Homozon use are directly

proportional to the amount taken, and that there's a world of difference between

the teaspoon level and the tablespoon level of detox action.

I've heard it said that the laxative effect diminishes as one's colon gets

cleaned of accumulated " plaque, " and I know the Blass literature promotes that

idea, but that hasn't been my experience in several months of regular Homozon

use, or what I've observed in others.

Can anyone on-list report reduction of the laxative effect over time from their

own experience?

My main problem with Homozon has always been getting it down. Just THINKING

about it makes me gag.

Green

~^~^~^~^

Ronen wrote:

Why not try MSO from www.magnetizer.com ?

In addition, drink negatively - magnetized water. Reduces urination because

of better utilization of water in the cells.

Ronen.

Re: Re: homozon

> Actually Christel, this is the normal outcome from what I've heard. I

think

> it eases off though.

> wes

>

> > I have a question on Homozon. Need feedback from anyone who used it,

PLEASE.

> > I started to use it 10 days ago and I can't handle the watery outcome

> > anymore. All day and night to the point I barely make it to the

bathroom.

> > Surely that is not normal.

> > Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

> > Thank you,

> > Christel

>

>

> =^ )

> w/peace

> wes bennett

> wesbenn@...

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Dear Ronen,

The " watery outcome " that Christel's talking about isn't urine ;-))

Christel, the runny stool comes with the territory. I experienced something

like what you're talking about on a dosage of 2 tablespoons of Homozon per day,

but found one or two TEAspoons daily of the stuff to be more manageable. On

that dosage I was having one or two loose bowel movements daily.

I'd reduce the dose to what I could manage, and time it to maximize my

convenience.

At the same time, I'd realize that the benefits of Homozon use are directly

proportional to the amount taken, and that there's a world of difference between

the teaspoon level and the tablespoon level of detox action.

I've heard it said that the laxative effect diminishes as one's colon gets

cleaned of accumulated " plaque, " and I know the Blass literature promotes that

idea, but that hasn't been my experience in several months of regular Homozon

use, or what I've observed in others.

Can anyone on-list report reduction of the laxative effect over time from their

own experience?

My main problem with Homozon has always been getting it down. Just THINKING

about it makes me gag.

Green

~^~^~^~^

Ronen wrote:

Why not try MSO from www.magnetizer.com ?

In addition, drink negatively - magnetized water. Reduces urination because

of better utilization of water in the cells.

Ronen.

Re: Re: homozon

> Actually Christel, this is the normal outcome from what I've heard. I

think

> it eases off though.

> wes

>

> > I have a question on Homozon. Need feedback from anyone who used it,

PLEASE.

> > I started to use it 10 days ago and I can't handle the watery outcome

> > anymore. All day and night to the point I barely make it to the

bathroom.

> > Surely that is not normal.

> > Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

> > Thank you,

> > Christel

>

>

> =^ )

> w/peace

> wes bennett

> wesbenn@...

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