Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Recommended dosage on the undenatured whey seems to vary with manufacturer but with the isolates, about 60-70 grams or so and the concentrates, more like 75 grams or so. Body builders take roughly double that or more to better promote anabolic lean tissue generation; this of course is also a healing and recovery move so might be a consideration also for sick and heavy people who wish to repair and get to their right body mass index more quickly. Selenium dose for healthy people is about 200 mcg, and up to around 600 mcg if one is not healthy. Duncan > > > In a message dated 3/17/2008 9:52:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > duncancrow@... writes: > ... What IS backed up by > evidence however is that the natural detoxifier glutathione takes > mercury and other metals out of the body; we increase it with > undenatured whey and selenium. > > Duncan > > > > What is the recommended dosage of each? > > Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Duncan, what would be the amount of inulin for a not-healthy person? My husband has undergone 2 surgeries, and between them he has lost 45 pounds, lots of muscle along with the fats. He is now home and starting the healing process, so I want to start him on these 3 things, along with other things I have. His surgeries were colonostomy and its reversal (diverticulitis) so they loaded him up on antibiotics and for the last surgery (a week ago) they also gave him pills to sterilize his colon so that there would be no infection when the bowels were rejoined. Which means, basically, he has no good bacteria left in his system! Soooo--I do have good probiotics, but know you have said that the inulin helps the probiotics multiply, but am not sure how much he should take. He does have to start slowly to make sure nothing binds up his colon, and I have seen people mention that inulin gives them diarrhea. He already has that still, because it takes a while for the colon to again form normal stools. I don't want to make his diarrhea worse. Oh, I have the Now inulin thanks On 3/19/08, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote: > > Recommended dosage on the undenatured whey seems to vary with > manufacturer but with the isolates, about 60-70 grams or so and the > concentrates, more like 75 grams or so. Body builders take roughly > double that or more to better promote anabolic lean tissue > generation; this of course is also a healing and recovery move so > might be a consideration also for sick and heavy people who wish to > repair and get to their right body mass index more quickly. > > Selenium dose for healthy people is about 200 mcg, and up to around > 600 mcg if one is not healthy. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 , the correct inulin amount is the same for unhealthy as healthy people (1 tsp 3x or 4x daily) because in both cases we're culturing the same number of probiotics per cc in about the same amount of fecal slurry. Reconsider an M.D.'s advice to use large amounts of whole grains because this may easily make the bowel ecology unfavourable unless huge amounts of probiotic are taken along with it; as VSL#3, at 140 billion per dose, would qualify, this could be about 20-40 normal capsules per dose 3x to 4x a day with meals. In the case of vitamin and mineral malabsorption, the more unhealthy people should " best guess " an increase of vitamin and mineral doses to allow for suboptimal gut absorption due to the inflammation. To increase or preserve muscle mass your husband would use more undenatured whey. Elderly people may also need to increase HGH release to youthful levels with SomaLife gHP even if they are exercising, because excercise would only release the amount of HGH that pertains to their age group without the SomaLife. Increased HGH release also substantially increases healing speed to be more like the kids'; they can bounce back from serious injury like no elderly person due to their higher HGH release. This is because all cell division and repair absolutely requires adequate HGH levels, and these levels fall with biological age so often aren't what you'd call adequate for fast repair. Thus, HGH release can be the weakest link in healing after you've attended to nutrition, and this is the reason anti-agers carefully attend to this variable just like the rest. Duncan Crow http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/ > > > > Recommended dosage on the undenatured whey seems to vary with > > manufacturer but with the isolates, about 60-70 grams or so and the > > concentrates, more like 75 grams or so. Body builders take roughly > > double that or more to better promote anabolic lean tissue > > generation; this of course is also a healing and recovery move so > > might be a consideration also for sick and heavy people who wish to > > repair and get to their right body mass index more quickly. > > > > Selenium dose for healthy people is about 200 mcg, and up to around > > 600 mcg if one is not healthy. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Thanks Duncan. I usually ignore M.D.'s advice. :-) They are so great at trauma, but terrible for chronic stuff. 20 to 40 capsules, 3 times a day! Whew. That's a meal it itself. I've pretty well figured out what he needs to do to get back to health, I just wasn't sure about the inulin. One more question about the inulin--should it be take at the same time as the probiotics? Would it make the bowel more hospitable for the probiotics to take hold, or would it be better to take them at different times during the day? Ah yes--your anti-aging routine. :-) I will see where we can fit the HGH into his protocol. It's a bit of money to get him into shape right now, he needs so much nutrition wise, and there are the hospital bills to consider. sigh The insurance certainly doesn't cover what it use to cover. samala, On 3/20/08, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote: > > , the correct inulin amount is the same for unhealthy as healthy > people (1 tsp 3x or 4x daily) because in both cases we're culturing > the same number of probiotics per cc in about the same amount of > fecal slurry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 , as I've just pointed out to MJ, VSL#3 comes in a pouch because at 450 billion probiotic organisms you can't realistically eat enough capsules unless you use some of the 35 billion per cap formulas. The lower doses will work but take longer though, and taking probiotics with inulin allows longer contact time between the probiotics and their feed, and that improves numbers faster. Duncan > > > > , the correct inulin amount is the same for unhealthy as healthy > > people (1 tsp 3x or 4x daily) because in both cases we're culturing > > the same number of probiotics per cc in about the same amount of > > fecal slurry. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Duncan, Where can you get VSL #3? Thanks, > VSL#3 comes in a > pouch because > at 450 billion probiotic organisms you can't > realistically eat enough > capsules unless you use some of the 35 billion per cap > formulas. > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 VSL #3 can be ordered through the companies website. Google VSL #3 and you can find it easily. I would check out www.customprobiotics.com though. You can get the same thing pretty much, but at a quarter of the cost. It's in powder form, so you can take as little or as much as you want per dose. Buddy On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Eagle <jacobadler123@...> wrote: > > > > > Duncan, > > Where can you get VSL #3? > > Thanks, > > > > > > > VSL#3 comes in a > > pouch because > > at 450 billion probiotic organisms you can't > > realistically eat enough > > capsules unless you use some of the 35 billion per cap > > formulas. > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > http://www./r/hs > > > -- Buddy A. Touchinsky, D.C. Blue Mountain Family Chiropractic www.bmfchiro.com Healthy Habits Natural Market www.healthyhabitsnaturalmarket.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Buddy, Thanks for the link. Do you think that the Adult CP-1 formula is comperable to VLS #3 or would you suggest asking customp. to make the same strains as listed in the VLS? Thanks again, > From: Buddy A. Touchinsky, D.C. <dr.touchinsky@...> > Subject: Re: > VSL #3 can be ordered through the companies website. Google > VSL #3 > and you can find it easily. > > I would check out www.customprobiotics.com though. You can > get the > same thing pretty much, but at a quarter of the cost. > It's in powder > form, so you can take as little or as much as you want per > dose. > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 , buy VSL#3 online; I don't carry it. Duncan > > > VSL#3 comes in a > > pouch because > > at 450 billion probiotic organisms you can't > > realistically eat enough > > capsules unless you use some of the 35 billion per cap > > formulas. > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > http://www./r/hs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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