Re: Re: beans and nuts/What veggies contain least arginine?

[Guest guest]

 I am really struggling as I try to eat as much veggies as possilbe instead of

meat to get my protein.  However, due to my herpes situation, I can't eat too

much stuff containing arginine, a type of amino acid.  I know nuts and seeds

contain a lot of arginine. 

 

What about beans: black beans, read beans, pinto beans, etc.?    Does anyone

know?  Thanks. 

 

Jen

From: soozberg <soozberg@...>

Subject: re: beans and nuts

candidiasis

Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 1:00 PM

If you are vegan, it is not a " belief " to not eat meat. It is a major

health issue. Eating meat means you will be ingesting antibiotics,

hormones and a host of fats you can do without, plus all the chemicals

they are allowed to inject it with to make it look red and fresh, not

to mention your bowels will be digesting decomposing flesh for 2 or

more days. Doesn't seem really conducive to cleansing. If you find

organic meat, it may not have all the chemicals but it may complicate

other digestive issues. Same with dairy, which I also don't do because

of IBS, as well as being vegan.

I'm vegan and I eat beans -- the way to do it is to soak all of your

beans and sprout them before cooking. That gets rid of all the stuff

causing problems. Also, raw and organic nuts are best -- these I do in

moderation.

I get plenty of protein from fresh organic vegetables. Broccoli is one

of the best sources of protein, 11 grams per serving.

-Suzie

[Guest guest]

Check the USDA nutrient database

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

sol

Lee wrote:

> I am really struggling as I try to eat as much veggies as possilbe instead of

meat to get my protein. However, due to my herpes situation, I can't eat too

much stuff containing arginine, a type of amino acid. I know nuts and seeds

contain a lot of arginine.

>

> What about beans: black beans, read beans, pinto beans, etc.? Does anyone

know? Thanks.

>

> Jen

>

>

[Guest guest]

The important thing isn't whether a food contains arginine, it is the

ratio of Arginine to Lysine. Both in an individual food and in the daily

diet. Green beans and navy beans do contain arginine, but they have a

bit more lysine than arginine. This is not the case with nuts, for

example, peanuts contain 3.33 times more arginine than lysine. As an

example of dairy foods, mozarella cheese has 1.87 times more lysine than

arginine.

To keep from stimulating herpes when no outbreak is present keep the

ratio at 1:1. During an outbreak up the Lysine, a lot, also increase C,

E, and B complex.

That is why my husband who is allergic to milk proteins takes a lot of

extra lysine when he eats high arginine foods. Most " high arginine "

foods tend to have several times as much arginine as lysine, and in a

diet without foods such as dairy (and meat), which generally have more

lysine than arginine, it is harder to get enough lysine to balance the

amount of arginine in nuts and seeds and grains. High lysine foods don't

usually have more than twice the lysine vs arginine. But as in peanuts

high arginine foods tend to have more like 3 times as much arginine as

lysine. This makes vegan diets more likely to stimulate herpes outbreaks

unless lysine is supplemented. (I have left fruit out of consideration

entirely).

An interesting thing turned up while I was researching this, I would

have thought that brown rice would have a higher arginine to lysine

ratio than white rice but just the opposite is true. Brown rice has

twice as much arginine as lysine, but white rice has 2.33 times as much

arginine as lysine.

sol

mikes688 wrote:

> Black, green, kidney, navy, string and wax beans contain arginine as

> does watercress, chives, flax seed, onions, shallots, peas,

> cauliflower, lettuce, cabbage, cucumber, watermelon, potatoes,

> pumpkin, peppers, oranges, tomatoes, etc. Mike

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>> Check the USDA nutrient database

>> http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

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