Question about Lambic Beer

[Guest guest]

wrote:

>There is a recipe at:

www.eatingoffthefoodgrid.com, made with kefir grains. Which is the easy way

to do it ...

Interesting website, but, unfortunately, I can't find the recipe for Lambic

Beer. Could you please give me a clue as to where it is hidden?

TIA

and the K9's

[Guest guest]

There is a recipe at:

www.eatingoffthefoodgrid.com, made with kefir grains. Which is the easy way

to do it ...

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Kate <pommekate53@...> wrote:

> OK What's Lambic Beer? If it's non alcoholic,(or very low), I'd love to

> know the recipe. I think I posted a query a long time ago and don't recall

> any recipe.

> BTW Happy Fathers day and Happy Solstice

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[Guest guest]

For a description of the " real " stuff see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambic .

For actually making a homemade version I think 's suggestion might be the

only practical one unless you want to engage in some serious brewery

experiments.

Question about Lambic Beer

OK What's Lambic Beer? If it's non alcoholic,(or very low), I'd love to know

the recipe. I think I posted a query a long time ago and don't recall any

recipe.

BTW Happy Fathers day and Happy Solstice

[Guest guest]

Ack. Ok, it's not there. It's here:

nutrition/files/recipes/

<nutrition/files/recipes/>Under

" kefir beer " .

Like said, making " real " lambic ale is an art, but doing it with a

kefir grain is really easy, and the kefir has some neat yeast in it that is

good for your gut too. I can't drink " real " lambic ale any more (it has

barley in it) but the kefir beer tastes very close as far as I can remember.

Esp. if you use sorghum syrup. Of course, if you can do real barley malt, it

will be more like " real " lambic ale!

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 1:07 AM, <labradors@...> wrote:

> wrote:

>

> >There is a recipe at:

> www.eatingoffthefoodgrid.com, made with kefir grains. Which is the easy

> way

> to do it ...

>

> Interesting website, but, unfortunately, I can't find the recipe for Lambic

> Beer. Could you please give me a clue as to where it is hidden?

>

> TIA

> and the K9's

>

>

[Guest guest]

Many thanks :-)

I'm growing hops because of you! I had read about your kefir beer a while back,

and always longed to make some, but since I didn't have any fresh hops, and

couldn't find any, I decided to grow my own. I joined a hop email list, and

learned that " Cascade " is the variety for beginners, and that it has a citrus

flavour. The rhizomes need to be planted in the spring. Don't be tempted to

buy seeds because male hops aren't wanted, and it infuriates home (as well as

professional) hop growers if there are male hops growing in the vicinity, since

it causes SEEDS in their female hops!

Looking forward to trying out the Lambic beer this fall :-)

and the K9's

Ack. Ok, it's not there. It's here:

nutrition/files/recipes/

<nutrition/files/recipes/>Under

" kefir beer " .

Like said, making " real " lambic ale is an art, but doing it with a

kefir grain is really easy, and the kefir has some neat yeast in it that is

good for your gut too. I can't drink " real " lambic ale any more (it has

barley in it) but the kefir beer tastes very close as far as I can remember.

Esp. if you use sorghum syrup. Of course, if you can do real barley malt, it

will be more like " real " lambic ale!

[Guest guest]

Hey, thanks for the feedback!

Growing hops is pretty easy: they are kind of a weed once they get started,

at least around here. But it is important to get a good variety. My first

ones were something I got at random from a flower shop, and they tasted

pretty bad.

It's important also to harvest them at the right time and freeze them. They

go rancid, or something ... and then they really STINK. My first hops I got

were rancid, and I couldn't figure out how anyone could use such a thing.

You can get hops NOW though: just order them online from a homebrew store.

They have them in pellets, in sealed bags, and those keep a long time and

really do taste just fine. Until you get your own crop, which I'm sure will

be better! Our local homebrew store also has frozen whole hops. I used to

make " regular " beer, back before I became GF. In fact, we made all the beer

served at our wedding, which was kinda fun. We encouraged folks to take home

an extra bottle, so they wouldn't be tempted to drink too much and drive.

Hops are decidedly a drug. They only have one plant that is related that we

know of: and that is POT. They are very closely related. Hops don't make you

high, and they are totally legal, but they will put you to sleep, even if

there is no alcohol around. Hops pickers, I heard, need to wear masks so

they don't fall asleep from inhaling the pollen. They can also boost your

appetite, which may or may not be a good thing, depending.

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:51 AM, <labradors@...> wrote:

> Many thanks :-)

>

> I'm growing hops because of you! I had read about your kefir beer a while

> back, and always longed to make some, but since I didn't have any fresh

> hops, and couldn't find any, I decided to grow my own. I joined a hop email

> list, and learned that " Cascade " is the variety for beginners, and that it

> has a citrus flavour. The rhizomes need to be planted in the spring. Don't

> be tempted to buy seeds because male hops aren't wanted, and it infuriates

> home (as well as professional) hop growers if there are male hops growing in

> the vicinity, since it causes SEEDS in their female hops!

>

> Looking forward to trying out the Lambic beer this fall :-)

>

> and the K9's

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> Ack. Ok, it's not there. It's here:

> nutrition/files/recipes/

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> <nutrition/files/recipes/

> >Under

> " kefir beer " .

>

> Like said, making " real " lambic ale is an art, but doing it with a

> kefir grain is really easy, and the kefir has some neat yeast in it that

> is

> good for your gut too. I can't drink " real " lambic ale any more (it has

> barley in it) but the kefir beer tastes very close as far as I can

> remember.

> Esp. if you use sorghum syrup. Of course, if you can do real barley malt,

> it

> will be more like " real " lambic ale!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks to and everyone else who answered my question about lambic beer.

I'll try it when I'm going to be in one place for long enough to make anything

other than kefir!

Can't wait, cheers, Kate

[Guest guest]

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You are right about old hops smelling bad. I hear they go cheesy, and hop

growers go to great lengths to keep ALL the air out of their packages when

freezing them. I'd have just tossed them into a Ziplock baggie in the freezer

but they talk about vacuum packs.....

Fortunately, I've also heard that they can be invasive weeds and have planted

them at the bottom of the garden. Did you know that the young sprouts can be

harvested in spring and eaten like asparagus? That sounds like a plan, as we

are supposed to trim them to two bines (vines) per plant to conserve energy.

Perhaps we could even ferment them :-)

Thanks for the warning about drowsiness when picking hops. I don't think I'll

have that problem with my first year bines, and next year I'll probably forget.

Will plan on growing them on a fence so that I won't need a ladder to fall off!

What fun to make the beer for your own wedding :-)

Cheers!

Growing hops is pretty easy: they are kind of a weed once they get started,

at least around here. But it is important to get a good variety. My first

ones were something I got at random from a flower shop, and they tasted

pretty bad.

[Guest guest]

I suppose they might be invasive, but everything in our yard is invasive so

they sort of duke it out. Actually the hops don't compete well with grass

(or goats).

We grow ours on ropes, so when it's harvesting time, we just cut the ropes

and sit down to take off the flowers. Lots easier! They like to get really

TALL, like 30 feet or so. I haven't gotten drowsy from them, but I'm not

picking bushels and bushels of them! I have gotten drowsy from tasting the

wort though :-)

I haven't had them go bad in the freezer, ever. I think it's mainly an issue

at room temp or fridge temps.

And yeah, our wedding was a hoot. Live band, cabbage and wurst, in an old

log cabin. Lots of space for the kids to play and no formality anywhere in

sight.

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:35 PM, <labradors@...> wrote:

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> You are right about old hops smelling bad. I hear they go cheesy, and hop

> growers go to great lengths to keep ALL the air out of their packages when

> freezing them. I'd have just tossed them into a Ziplock baggie in the

> freezer but they talk about vacuum packs.....

>

> Fortunately, I've also heard that they can be invasive weeds and have

> planted them at the bottom of the garden. Did you know that the young

> sprouts can be harvested in spring and eaten like asparagus? That sounds

> like a plan, as we are supposed to trim them to two bines (vines) per plant

> to conserve energy. Perhaps we could even ferment them :-)

>

> Thanks for the warning about drowsiness when picking hops. I don't think

> I'll have that problem with my first year bines, and next year I'll probably

> forget. Will plan on growing them on a fence so that I won't need a ladder

> to fall off!

>

> What fun to make the beer for your own wedding :-)

>

> Cheers!

>

> Growing hops is pretty easy: they are kind of a weed once they get

> started,

> at least around here. But it is important to get a good variety. My first

> ones were something I got at random from a flower shop, and they tasted

> pretty bad.

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