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Hi Helen, and all,

This can mean different dosages depending on whether you have been on long

term prednisone in the past and your past response to it, how serious the

inflammation is, and other health factors, etc. A typical pred burst for an

adult as far as my experience as a patient goes is starting at around 30 or 40

mg a day of oral prednisone, tapering down by 10 mg each time, with two days at

each dosage.

For example, I am on this dosage right now: 30 mg (divided into two 15mg

doses per day) for two days, then 20mg for two days, 10 mg for two days, then to

continue on 5mg thereafter. Normally I would stop after two days at 5 mg but I

have not been able to keep the inflammation down in the past with nsaids when

flaring,so we are trying a 5mg continuous dose for awhile to see if we can get

my hands and feet out of this flare. I think that some manufacturers package it

up in special dose-paks for this kind of treatment as I have heard others talk

of them.

I imagine you know this, but just to be on the safe side.....when taking

prednisone, it is very important to be under a doctor's supervision concerning

the dosage as stopping or dropping the dose too quickly can have serious

effects.

I'm not keen on using prednisone generally due to all the problems it can

cause, but have had no luck controlling the inflammation recently by other

means. I was beginning to get quite concerned about possible joint damage in a

couple of joints and having difficulty walking or I would not be doing it myself

right now. My personal two cents is--try all other alternatives first before

considering this. I was able to keep the inflammation down to a reasonable level

for some time just using herbal treatment and an occasional aspirin. I guess I'm

in the two-stepper's-back club right now! Liz G

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In a message dated 7/1/99 12:09:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

basler@... writes:

<< Will you please explain what you mean by a pred burst--how much, how

often etc. >>

A pred burst or (pulse) is an extra dose if you are going into a flair. If

it's a bad flair you may have to triple your dose for that one time only. For

instance I am on 4mg a day but if I am getting a really bad flair I will

pulse another 5 or 10. Then I might skip my next regular dose. You will

learn what your body needs. I have a tendency to suffer greatly before

pulsing but if a flair is going to be one of those tooth throbbing kind I

will definitly do it.

Anita

RA 26 years, Fibro, AP 17 months

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  • 7 years later...

I feel funny complaining when I hear where others peak flows are. My peak

flows are usually in the 570's and have been in the 450's, so just into

yellow for me. But it seems once I drop below 90%, I am on a hair trigger

and it can drop to 50% quickly if I exert myself. I swam and ran competitive

with undiagnosed asthma as a kid and teenager and that really stretched my

lungs. Unfortunately I do have scarring in one lung. So my peak flows look

good, but my air exchange is poor. Also my diaphragm is very strong so I can

force the air in and out but I get tired and hurt. Thankfully my doctors are

taking my symptoms into consideration and not just looking at my numbers. I

have woken the past two mornings feeling rested and relaxed - not like I had

wrestled with an elephant and lost. So the meds are helping.

B.

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From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of pjboucher2001

Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 10:12 AM

Subject: [ ] Pred Burst

HI

I can relate to your story. I have been on Xolair since February

2006...got off the pred in May 2006 (was on it since November 2005

and usually 4-5 times per year before that).

I started having problems breathing Wednesday morning (Peak Flows

just above 150)...went to the dr right away and had to start

Prednisone 50mg...I was pretty depressed (as would agree with

as I emailed her and started whining about it immediately!!!)

I am feeling better ashtma wise, but with just 3 days in I am

starting all my usual prednisone side effects...which are quite nasty

and individual to everyone! My family dr. also added in Theophylline

300mg daily just over 1 year ago and at the time, it really helped me

and I continue to take it and have my blood tested regularly.

I am really hoping that when I go back to the dr. next week she will

allow me to do a fast taper of the Evil Candy!

Pamela

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Hi

Yes....peak flows are a pesonal thing! My BEST is usually 375-400.

Since being on the Xolair I have blown over 500 on a couple of

occassions! WOW for me!!!

I just hope my insurance company doesn't give me a hard time because

I think that when I got my approval last year, they were going to

reasses after 12 months...(maybe they will forget!!). I am definetly

on less prednisone than before, but still on Theo, Spiriva,

Symbicort, Singular, Ventolin daily.

Pamela

>

> I feel funny complaining when I hear where others peak flows are.

My peak

> flows are usually in the 570's and have been in the 450's, so just

into

> yellow for me. But it seems once I drop below 90%, I am on a hair

trigger

> and it can drop to 50% quickly if I exert myself. I swam and ran

competitive

> with undiagnosed asthma as a kid and teenager and that really

stretched my

> lungs. Unfortunately I do have scarring in one lung. So my peak

flows look

> good, but my air exchange is poor. Also my diaphragm is very strong

so I can

> force the air in and out but I get tired and hurt. Thankfully my

doctors are

> taking my symptoms into consideration and not just looking at my

numbers. I

> have woken the past two mornings feeling rested and relaxed - not

like I had

> wrestled with an elephant and lost. So the meds are helping.

>

>

>

> B.

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From:

[mailto: ] On

> Behalf Of pjboucher2001

> Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 10:12 AM

>

> Subject: [ ] Pred Burst

>

>

>

> HI

>

> I can relate to your story. I have been on Xolair since February

> 2006...got off the pred in May 2006 (was on it since November 2005

> and usually 4-5 times per year before that).

>

> I started having problems breathing Wednesday morning (Peak Flows

> just above 150)...went to the dr right away and had to start

> Prednisone 50mg...I was pretty depressed (as would agree

with

> as I emailed her and started whining about it immediately!!!)

>

> I am feeling better ashtma wise, but with just 3 days in I am

> starting all my usual prednisone side effects...which are quite

nasty

> and individual to everyone! My family dr. also added in

Theophylline

> 300mg daily just over 1 year ago and at the time, it really helped

me

> and I continue to take it and have my blood tested regularly.

>

> I am really hoping that when I go back to the dr. next week she

will

> allow me to do a fast taper of the Evil Candy!

>

> Pamela

>

>

>

>

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Great puffing Pamela! I went from around 350 to around 450 with the

usual suite of meds and now from 450 to 570 (hard to believe) and

rising with Xolair. Best I read before Xolair was 510 while on a

Predinsone burst.

> >

> > I feel funny complaining when I hear where others peak flows

are.

> My peak

> > flows are usually in the 570's and have been in the 450's, so

just

> into

> > yellow for me. But it seems once I drop below 90%, I am on a

hair

> trigger

> > and it can drop to 50% quickly if I exert myself. I swam and ran

> competitive

> > with undiagnosed asthma as a kid and teenager and that really

> stretched my

> > lungs. Unfortunately I do have scarring in one lung. So my peak

> flows look

> > good, but my air exchange is poor. Also my diaphragm is very

strong

> so I can

> > force the air in and out but I get tired and hurt. Thankfully my

> doctors are

> > taking my symptoms into consideration and not just looking at my

> numbers. I

> > have woken the past two mornings feeling rested and relaxed -

not

> like I had

> > wrestled with an elephant and lost. So the meds are helping.

> >

> >

> >

> > B.

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From:

> [mailto: ] On

> > Behalf Of pjboucher2001

> > Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 10:12 AM

> >

> > Subject: [ ] Pred Burst

> >

> >

> >

> > HI

> >

> > I can relate to your story. I have been on Xolair since February

> > 2006...got off the pred in May 2006 (was on it since November

2005

> > and usually 4-5 times per year before that).

> >

> > I started having problems breathing Wednesday morning (Peak

Flows

> > just above 150)...went to the dr right away and had to start

> > Prednisone 50mg...I was pretty depressed (as would agree

> with

> > as I emailed her and started whining about it immediately!!!)

> >

> > I am feeling better ashtma wise, but with just 3 days in I am

> > starting all my usual prednisone side effects...which are quite

> nasty

> > and individual to everyone! My family dr. also added in

> Theophylline

> > 300mg daily just over 1 year ago and at the time, it really

helped

> me

> > and I continue to take it and have my blood tested regularly.

> >

> > I am really hoping that when I go back to the dr. next week she

> will

> > allow me to do a fast taper of the Evil Candy!

> >

> > Pamela

> >

> >

> >

> >

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