vitamin D

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I cut off the bottom of my post before, so am reposting so it

will all be together. Here it is in full:

I was just reading on Dr. Mark Hyman's site that 400 to 600 iu

vitamin D is just enough to prevent rickets. There is LOTS of

information there.

My naturopath has me on 10,000 iu (because of low blood levels), and

my naturopath says that doctors are safely using up to 25,000 iu

units per day *in persons with low blood levels*

Of course these higher levels, including the 10,000 I am taking,

should only be taken under the care of a health professional, and

repeated blood tests at least every 2 to 3 months.

Amber

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[Guest guest]

I love his books I wish I could afford to go to the canyon ranch BUT HA!!!

Shalom

Re: Vitamin D

Sorry, I cut off the bottom of my post before, so am reposting so it

will all be together. Here it is in full:

I was just reading on Dr. Mark Hyman's site that 400 to 600 iu

vitamin D is just enough to prevent rickets. There is LOTS of

information there.

My naturopath has me on 10,000 iu (because of low blood levels), and

my naturopath says that doctors are safely using up to 25,000 iu

units per day *in persons with low blood levels*

Of course these higher levels, including the 10,000 I am taking,

should only be taken under the care of a health professional, and

repeated blood tests at least every 2 to 3 months.

Amber

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[Guest guest]

I work nigfhts in summer and rarely go outside by day. I take

about a tablespoon of cod liver oil daily.

Alobar

On 9/24/07, Wilkins <montemomma2002@...> wrote:

> I read at http://vitamindcouncil.com/ that it would take a lot of vitamin D

to become toxic and the USRDA of 400 IU of D is not a safe dose because it is

much too low.

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi this is taken from the article submitted on D:

Deficiencies of calcium and vitamin D in utero

and in childhood may prevent the maximum deposition

of calcium in the skeleton.36 As vitamin

D deficiency progresses, the parathyroid

glands are maximally stimulated, causing secondary

hyperparathyroidism.7,9-12 Hypomagnesemia

blunts this response, which means that parathyroid

hormone levels are often normal when

25-hydroxyvitamin D levels fall below 20 ng per

milliliter.37 Parathyroid hormone increases the

metabolism of 25-hydroxyvitamin D to 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin

D, which further exacerbates the

vitamin D deficiency. Parathyroid hormone also

causes phosphaturia, resulting in a low-normal or

low serum phosphorus level. Without an adequate

calcium–phosphorus product (the value for calcium

times the value for serum phosphorus), mineralization

of the collagen matrix is diminished,

leading to classic signs of rickets

can someone help me understand this? is this saying that if our 25-D is

low then that stimulates the parathyroid to incr prod of 1-25D so that

if we are low in 25-D we will be high in 1-25D? i ask b/c my 25-D is low

normal but my 1-25D was very high when i tested it in march. am nervous

therefore to take D as i don't want to incr 1-25 levels even more -

concerned re osteoporosis. but maybe taking D3 will incr 25-D and lower

1-25D? can anyone help me out with this? what is a healthy level of 1-25D?

thanks

monique

[Guest guest]

> OH Bee, I started taking more Vita D and increased my C to 2 grams a

day. I am not seeing any excess in the urine as I did at 1 gram without

the extra D, so I am wondering if D helps in the absorbtion of C too!

==>Hi . How do you determine your urine contains excess vitamin C?

Bee

[Guest guest]

I always thought that what the body didn't use, it excreted in the urine and

that is what caused the deep color.  Am I wrong?

[ ] Re:Vitamin D

> OH Bee, I started taking more Vita D and increased my C to 2 grams a

day. I am not seeing any excess in the urine as I did at 1 gram without

the extra D, so I am wondering if D helps in the absorbtion of C too!

==>Hi . How do you determine your urine contains excess vitamin C?

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> > OH Bee, I started taking more Vita D and increased my C to 2

grams a

> day. I am not seeing any excess in the urine as I did at 1 gram

without

> the extra D, so I am wondering if D helps in the absorbtion of C

too!

>

> ==>Hi . How do you determine your urine contains excess

vitamin C?

>

> Bee

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The first thing that came to my mind when you said, " deep color " was -

dehydration.

Chandra

>

> > OH Bee, I started taking more Vita D and increased my C to 2 grams a

> day. I am not seeing any excess in the urine as I did at 1 gram without

> the extra D, so I am wondering if D helps in the absorbtion of C too!

>

> ==>Hi . How do you determine your urine contains excess vitamin C?

>

> Bee

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I take a tsp of cod liver oil everyday even in summer months. I work

out in my yard on the weekend, that is the only sunshine that I get

between the hours of 10-2. Do you think at any point that I should take

a break from the cod liver oil?

==>Treva, it won't hurt you to take it every day, but it is wide to not

take any supplements 1 day once a month. It allows your body to adjust

and balance itself.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Thank's Bee

 

Treva Shay Spence

From: Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...>

Subject: [ ] Re:Vitamin D

Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 8:50 PM

>

> I take a tsp of cod liver oil everyday even in summer months. I work

out in my yard on the weekend, that is the only sunshine that I get

between the hours of 10-2. Do you think at any point that I should take

a break from the cod liver oil?

==>Treva, it won't hurt you to take it every day, but it is wide to not

take any supplements 1 day once a month. It allows your body to adjust

and balance itself.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi,

My Dad who is 86 has Vitamin D issues. Our Dr did the test for caution.

Come to find out he is Deficient.

He takes 50,000 units every Sunday. The Dr said that he is seeing so many

people who are Vitamin D Deficient in his office.

His words were due to so many people take what is said on TV about the

Sun causing Cancer. That people do not get out in the sun much. The Sun

provides us with Vitamin D naturally. He also stated that many folks drink 2 %

milk

or none at all due to intolerate. Dairy foods are needed for the Vitamin D.

In food process Vitamin D is knocked out alot.

Now you are seeing more and more people with this. Guess what when he

found out my Dad was he did the same test and my hubby is also Vitamin D

deficient. HOW can this be? My hubby drinks Milk and eats cheese all the time?

At

least on his own he drinks about 3 gallons a week. Amazing right?

Well the Dr advised for my Step Dad to get out in the Sun for 20 minutes

a Day. Not just going in and out of a car or house. He said SIT in the sun so

the sun touchs a good portion of the skin. Plus he has to take the 50,000

units a week. With my hubby he has to sit out in the sun as well.

This is funny in a way. As Both my Hubby and Dad always was out in the

sun. The work they did before retiring was a lot of outside work. Strange

right?

Vitamin D Deficiency is on the rise as Drs screen for this now. The

Affects it can cause is Rickets. So make sure you are tested for it.

Robbin

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[Guest guest]

Just from personal experience, I was deficient in Vitamin D. I took a once a

week dose for 6 weeks. They waited 2 months and rechecked and I was normal.

Checked again 3 months after that, I was normal again. I haven't read up on this

but it seemed kind of strange...

and Rob 19 JAS

Update about contacting congress, etc about my

> daughter and no healthcare

>

>

> Well, I have to say, it has been rather disappointing. Out of

> the more than 10 letters I sent out I only heard from 2. One was

> a guy from the local state congress person who basically said

> there is nothing he can do. He contacted people who gave him the

> same run around as I have received. The other was a national

> senator's office who were so rude it was ridiculous. After

> speaking with the DSHS office consumer complaint dept who it

> appears has the job of saying " I'm sorry ma'am and how does that

> make you feel? " --I found out my daughter can qualify for

> medical if she were pregnant, in jail, or an illegal alien but

> as a college student she should be able to work full time and

> receive benefits. They reviewed her records and she is stable on

> medication-- really? And so therefore she does not qualify. I

> mentioned how she would become rapidly unstable without her

> Remicade etc and would end up in the ER or hospital and was told

> they would cover her then. I can't

> believe they would rather pay emergency bills than keep her

> stable. She will graduate from university in 9 days but the

> possibility of finding full-time employment soon in her field is

> highly unlikely. That doesn't mean we aren't praying for a

> miracle here. We joke around that instead of marrying a man for

> a green card (like in some movie we watched) she'll marry him

> for health insurance!!!

>

> e, mom to " joe " 21 poly/lupus (and we just found out

> severely deficient in Vitamin D) who will graduate from

> University on the 13th!!!!--Take that JRA!!!!!!)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hannah was on 800mg for 2 weeks and has now been on 400mg daily for approx a

month.  We do labs next week to recheck everything.  Interesting.  

 

Sending prayers & happy thoughts,

Beth

________________________________

From: and Schulz <snooksmama@...>

Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 6:28:33 AM

Subject: Re: vitamin D

Just from personal experience, I was deficient in Vitamin D. I took a once a

week dose for 6 weeks. They waited 2 months and rechecked and I was normal.

Checked again 3 months after that, I was normal again. I haven't read up on this

but it seemed kind of strange...

and Rob 19 JAS

Update about contacting congress, etc about my

> daughter and no healthcare

>

>

> Well, I have to say, it has been rather disappointing. Out of

> the more than 10 letters I sent out I only heard from 2. One was

> a guy from the local state congress person who basically said

> there is nothing he can do. He contacted people who gave him the

> same run around as I have received. The other was a national

> senator's office who were so rude it was ridiculous. After

> speaking with the DSHS office consumer complaint dept who it

> appears has the job of saying " I'm sorry ma'am and how does that

> make you feel? " --I found out my daughter can qualify for

> medical if she were pregnant, in jail, or an illegal alien but

> as a college student she should be able to work full time and

> receive benefits. They reviewed her records and she is stable on

> medication-- really? And so therefore she does not qualify. I

> mentioned how she would become rapidly unstable without her

> Remicade etc and would end up in the ER or hospital and was told

> they would cover her then. I can't

> believe they would rather pay emergency bills than keep her

> stable. She will graduate from university in 9 days but the

> possibility of finding full-time employment soon in her field is

> highly unlikely. That doesn't mean we aren't praying for a

> miracle here. We joke around that instead of marrying a man for

> a green card (like in some movie we watched) she'll marry him

> for health insurance!!!

>

> e, mom to " joe " 21 poly/lupus (and we just found out

> severely deficient in Vitamin D) who will graduate from

> University on the 13th!!!!--Take that JRA!!!!!!)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Robbin, my internist also checks my vitamin D levels each visit and

says that especially in the winter time EVERYONE should be taking

extra vitamin D. Seems like the " new wonder vitamin " but the fuss is

really because they are finding deficiencies linked to even certain

types of cancer as well as auto-immune diseases. Here's an article I

just found after googling Vit. D that I thought was interesting :

http://www.webmd.com/rheumatoid-arthritis/news/20040109/vitamin-d-may-

prevent-arthritis

Isabelle had her first JRA symptoms in January/Feb. which is suppose

to be when vit. D levels are the lowest. I think this is interesting

and although not necessarily the cause of JRA, it is at least a

direction that researchers can examine.

-Hadley (Isabelle, JRA age 4.5 yrs)

>

> Hi,

> My Dad who is 86 has Vitamin D issues. Our Dr did the test for

caution.

> Come to find out he is Deficient.

> He takes 50,000 units every Sunday. The Dr said that he is seeing

so many

> people who are Vitamin D Deficient in his office.

> His words were due to so many people take what is said on TV

about the

> Sun causing Cancer. That people do not get out in the sun much.

The Sun

> provides us with Vitamin D naturally. He also stated that many

folks drink 2 % milk

> or none at all due to intolerate. Dairy foods are needed for the

Vitamin D.

> In food process Vitamin D is knocked out alot.

> Now you are seeing more and more people with this. Guess what

when he

> found out my Dad was he did the same test and my hubby is also

Vitamin D

> deficient. HOW can this be? My hubby drinks Milk and eats cheese

all the time? At

> least on his own he drinks about 3 gallons a week. Amazing right?

> Well the Dr advised for my Step Dad to get out in the Sun for

20 minutes

> a Day. Not just going in and out of a car or house. He said SIT in

the sun so

> the sun touchs a good portion of the skin. Plus he has to take the

50,000

> units a week. With my hubby he has to sit out in the sun as well.

> This is funny in a way. As Both my Hubby and Dad always was out

in the

> sun. The work they did before retiring was a lot of outside work.

Strange right?

> Vitamin D Deficiency is on the rise as Drs screen for this now.

The

> Affects it can cause is Rickets. So make sure you are tested for

it.

> Robbin

> **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email,

and

> favorite sites in one place. Try it now.

> (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-

dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I went back to my doctor to complain about the burning

face and worsened electrical sensitivity symptoms I

was getting from increasing my intake of Vitamin D,

and after some muscle testing, she thought that the

Vitamin D was stressing my urinary tract system,

and perhaps the excess of toxins were trying to

exit via my skin. So she's changing brands of

Vitamin D to a " whole food " D3 (plus lowering

the dosage), and also added a urinary drainage

formula.

Plus, I'm gonna take a look at what else I

can do for kidney/urinary tract support.

If my burning face symptom is the result of urinary/kidney

stress, then that is definitely useful information!

Marc

[Guest guest]

I have burning skin daily also Marc. I was informed on another group that green

clay is really good for detoxing electrical radiation.

 

I am also low in vit D but have been taking for some time. I don't think we are

capable of converting the D to D3 in our livers so taking D3 is best. Having

osteoporosis this is important. Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Vitamin D

Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 11:06 AM

Hi all,

I went back to my doctor to complain about the burning

face and worsened electrical sensitivity symptoms I

was getting from increasing my intake of Vitamin D,

and after some muscle testing, she thought that the

Vitamin D was stressing my urinary tract system,

and perhaps the excess of toxins were trying to

exit via my skin. So she's changing brands of

Vitamin D to a " whole food " D3 (plus lowering

the dosage), and also added a urinary drainage

formula.

Plus, I'm gonna take a look at what else I

can do for kidney/urinary tract support.

If my burning face symptom is the result of urinary/kidney

stress, then that is definitely useful information!

Marc

[Guest guest]

> I have burning skin daily also Marc. I was informed on another group that

> green clay is really good for detoxing electrical radiation.

I can confirm that... it's just that green clay is a bit time consuming

(and messy!) to use, so I rarely use it.

> we are capable of converting the D to D3 in our livers so taking D3 is

> best.

I think the problem might be that most Vitamin D3 supplements are

synthetically made, and historically I've always done bad with

synthetic vitamins. Switching me to a whole food Vitamin D3 formula

might solve this problem.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Oh, let me know which one works for you. Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Vitamin D

Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 12:55 PM

> I have burning skin daily also Marc. I was informed on another group that

> green clay is really good for detoxing electrical radiation.

I can confirm that... it's just that green clay is a bit time consuming

(and messy!) to use, so I rarely use it.

> we are capable of converting the D to D3 in our livers so taking D3 is

> best.

I think the problem might be that most Vitamin D3 supplements are

synthetically made, and historically I've always done bad with

synthetic vitamins. Switching me to a whole food Vitamin D3 formula

might solve this problem.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi Marc

 

What sort of a Vit D were you taking before? and how much were you taking?

 

Regards

 

Steph

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Vitamin D

Date: Friday, 20 February, 2009, 6:06 PM

Hi all,

I went back to my doctor to complain about the burning

face and worsened electrical sensitivity symptoms I

was getting from increasing my intake of Vitamin D,

and after some muscle testing, she thought that the

Vitamin D was stressing my urinary tract system,

and perhaps the excess of toxins were trying to

exit via my skin. So she's changing brands of

Vitamin D to a " whole food " D3 (plus lowering

the dosage), and also added a urinary drainage

formula.

Plus, I'm gonna take a look at what else I

can do for kidney/urinary tract support.

If my burning face symptom is the result of urinary/kidney

stress, then that is definitely useful information!

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi Loni

 

I'm also taking D3 and I think that if you diet isn't rich enough in calcium you

would need to be taking a calcium and magnesium supplement with it because these

2 mineral work with each other - I added in a calcium and magnesium supplement

about 5 ydays ago - probably not the best quality one I could be using but it

was all I had to hand and I have noticed a marked improvement. A UK Doctor

Goldsworthy has written on electrosensitivity and if you google his name

and EMF you will come across his paper where he talks about ES mimicing a

condition called hypercalcaemia, and that treatment with calcium could help with

ES - it's a good read and worth a look.

 

Hope you are doing ok

 

Best wishes

 

Steph

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Vitamin D

groups (DOT) com

Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 11:06 AM

Hi all,

I went back to my doctor to complain about the burning

face and worsened electrical sensitivity symptoms I

was getting from increasing my intake of Vitamin D,

and after some muscle testing, she thought that the

Vitamin D was stressing my urinary tract system,

and perhaps the excess of toxins were trying to

exit via my skin. So she's changing brands of

Vitamin D to a " whole food " D3 (plus lowering

the dosage), and also added a urinary drainage

formula.

Plus, I'm gonna take a look at what else I

can do for kidney/urinary tract support.

If my burning face symptom is the result of urinary/kidney

stress, then that is definitely useful information!

Marc

[Guest guest]

> What sort of a Vit D were you taking before? and how much were you

> taking?

I was taking a Vitamin D tablet from Standard Process, a company

which makes professional-grade supplements for doctors. The

product was called " Cataplex D " , and I was (attempting) to

take 3 tablets per day, or 2400 IU. But I could not tolerate

this amount.

http://www.standardprocess.com/display/StandardProcessCatalog.spi?ID=58

I've previously tried 3 other brands of Vitamin D, but could not

tolerate these either (including just plain old cod liver oil).

So now my doctor has switched me to Innate Response Formulas

Vitamin D-3, which is another doctor's brand, but this Vitamin D-3

is a whole-foods vitamin, compared to 99.9% of the other brands

which are synthetic:

https://www.innateresponse.com/What_s_the_Difference_.html

And now my dose is down to 1 tablet per day of this new

supplement, or 400IU.

Note that I have no problem with lying out in the sun --

my problem seems to just be with supplements,

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi Marc

 

Hmnn

 

I'm no expert but I have over the last 6 weeks or so been reading a lot about

vitamin D - Dr Mercola gives great information about it and his advice is that

you need to be very careful around formulations with vitamin A in them - i will

try to check out the link and post it so you can read it for yourself, but if

you were taking 3 of these a day you'd have been taking in a lot of Vitamin A

and perhaps it was that which was counteracting any positive benefits you could

have got from the Vitamin D.

 

I'm taking 2000 iu per day of Pro Health's vitamin D3 which I seem to be doing

ok on so far - when the summer comes [fingers crossed] if we get some decent

sunshine I will hope to manufacture my Vit D naturally and, weather permitting,

intend to suspend my supplement until the autumn. Apparently the best time of

the day to make it from the sun is the hourse between 12 and 2pm [when we are

all supposed to be in the shade] and it is advisable not to shower immediately

after exposure because then you will be washing off the skin oils which you need

to help your body absorb it into the blood stream. Enough about vitamin D - I'll

look for the link.

 

Best wishes

 

Steph

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Vitamin D

Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 3:50 PM

> What sort of a Vit D were you taking before? and how much were you

> taking?

I was taking a Vitamin D tablet from Standard Process, a company

which makes professional- grade supplements for doctors. The

product was called " Cataplex D " , and I was (attempting) to

take 3 tablets per day, or 2400 IU. But I could not tolerate

this amount.

http://www.standard process.com/ display/Standard ProcessCatalog. spi?ID=58

I've previously tried 3 other brands of Vitamin D, but could not

tolerate these either (including just plain old cod liver oil).

So now my doctor has switched me to Innate Response Formulas

Vitamin D-3, which is another doctor's brand, but this Vitamin D-3

is a whole-foods vitamin, compared to 99.9% of the other brands

which are synthetic:

https://www. innateresponse. com/What_ s_the_Difference _.html

And now my dose is down to 1 tablet per day of this new

supplement, or 400IU.

Note that I have no problem with lying out in the sun --

my problem seems to just be with supplements,

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hello Marc,

I was under the impression that this list was about electrosensibility.

Now it seems, that only health problems are posted, and mainly women only

answering.

The postings by men are neglected.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

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Re: Vitamin D

>> What sort of a Vit D were you taking before? and how much were you

>> taking?

>

> I was taking a Vitamin D tablet from Standard Process, a company

> which makes professional-grade supplements for doctors. The

> product was called " Cataplex D " , and I was (attempting) to

> take 3 tablets per day, or 2400 IU. But I could not tolerate

> this amount.

>

> http://www.standardprocess.com/display/StandardProcessCatalog.spi?ID=58

>

> I've previously tried 3 other brands of Vitamin D, but could not

> tolerate these either (including just plain old cod liver oil).

>

> So now my doctor has switched me to Innate Response Formulas

> Vitamin D-3, which is another doctor's brand, but this Vitamin D-3

> is a whole-foods vitamin, compared to 99.9% of the other brands

> which are synthetic:

>

> https://www.innateresponse.com/What_s_the_Difference_.html

>

> And now my dose is down to 1 tablet per day of this new

> supplement, or 400IU.

>

> Note that I have no problem with lying out in the sun --

> my problem seems to just be with supplements,

>

> Marc

[Guest guest]

> I was under the impression that this list was about electrosensibility.

>

> Now it seems, that only health problems are posted

I think most of the " health problem " posts lately *have* been related

to ES. My Vitamin D posts came up because the Vitamin D was clearly

making my ES worse, such that I had to limit my computer usage

due to " face burning " symptoms. That issue cleared up quickly after

discontinuing the Vitamin D.

And concerns over an upcoming surgery seem somewhat relevant, as

a hospital seems like a hostile environment to someone who has ES.

Marc

[Guest guest]

No that is not correct.

It is not: *a hospital SEEMS LIKE a hostile environment to someone who has

ES*

A hospital IS a hostile environment to someone who has ES.

1. They have mobile phone masts on their roofs.

2. They place the patients on metal beds, with electromotors beneath.

3. They administer injections which contain mercury.

4. They inject contrast fluid, which causes electrosensibility.

5. A lot of hospitals do have a lot of wireless stuff around.

So, a hospital is a very bad place to be.

Not only for people who are *ES*, but also for those who may become *ES*.

I have read somewhere, that the main cause for death is your doctor.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

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Re: Vitamin D

>> I was under the impression that this list was about electrosensibility.

>>

>> Now it seems, that only health problems are posted

>

> And concerns over an upcoming surgery seem somewhat relevant, as

> a hospital seems like a hostile environment to someone who has ES.

>

> Marc

>