Re: Location, Location, Location

[Guest guest]

>

> Is there any validity to the claim that if you live in a " dry "

climate, like Tucson, AZ as opposed

> to Oklahoma, (rated by " somebody " as the 7th worse asthma place to

live) that the

> symptoms get better?

>

> I am always skeptical of " studies " but was wondering. My Dr is

" retiring me " , says if I go back

> to work I will end up back in the hospital and since I've been there

twice since Feb, he

> doesn't think that will be a good thing. I have an " opportunity " to

move and was wondering if

> I should factor in my asthma.

>

> Thanks

>

> Ron

Ron,

I have lived in Arkanas, Oklahoma, Texas and NC. Every time we move,

the people there say " ohhhhh this is the worse place in the country to

live if you have asthma and allergies. "

I don't think we are safe anywhere! sigh!

Doug

[Guest guest]

Me too!! My GP keeps telling me to move to Arizona. I am from CANADA. I want to

shoot her in the head when she starts on this. My entire fam is in Montreal and

I have zero desire to move. So tell me asthma also sucks in AZ and I will be

able to tell her to go away with her crazy ideas.

the Canadian

[Guest guest]

>

> --- In , " ronaldcrpntr " <cowtrail@>

wrote:

> >

> > Is there any validity to the claim that if you live in a " dry "

> climate, like Tucson, AZ as opposed

> > to Oklahoma, (rated by " somebody " as the 7th worse asthma place

to

> live) that the

> > symptoms get better?

> >

> > I am always skeptical of " studies " but was wondering. My Dr is

> " retiring me " , says if I go back

> > to work I will end up back in the hospital and since I've been

there

> twice since Feb, he

> > doesn't think that will be a good thing. I have an " opportunity "

to

> move and was wondering if

> > I should factor in my asthma.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Ron

>

> Ron,

>

> I have lived in Arkanas, Oklahoma, Texas and NC. Every time we

move,

> the people there say " ohhhhh this is the worse place in the

country to

> live if you have asthma and allergies. "

>

> I don't think we are safe anywhere! sigh!

>

> Doug

>

Ron,

I live in Phoenix and have severe asthma like the rest on this site.

To answer your question regarding improvement of symptoms in

Arizona, I'd have to say that the lower humidity is definately a

plus for me. Previously, I lived in N. Carolina and Texas...both

areas had significantly higher humidity levels and my asthma was

worse.

Now, my allergies are not as big a problem for me as they used to be

when I was younger. I believe that two courses of shots helped there

significantly. Also, I believe that my meds for asthma completey

mask any allergic (hay fever) symptoms I may have. Some say Phoenix

and other large cities in AZ are the worse place you cab move for

youe allergies. The reason being that there is a large amount of

dust in the air, Also, the population has exploded over the last 20

years and everyone has planted yards, trees, etc to make it no

longer the barren desert environment. Air pollution (CO &

particulates)is a problem here in Phoenix.

Also, people develop new sensitivities when they move from one place

to another. You may just end up changing your triggers and the bad

part is that it may take a season or two to notice. It's hard to

come out for a couple of months and make a decision.

For me it is a big improvement, but keep in mind that allergies are

no longer the limiting factor to me.

Best of luck to you!

Jay

[Guest guest]

Many years ago, people with asthma often did better by moving to

places like Arizona where the air was dry and pollen levels were low

because of the dessert. However, over the past several decades so

many folks have moved there and planted lawns, flowers and trees that

could survive as long as they are watered (now there's lots of

irrigation), that pollen counts are very high and the many

allergists now practicing there are very, very busy!

Fran

> > >

> > > Is there any validity to the claim that if you live in a " dry "

> > climate, like Tucson, AZ as opposed

> > > to Oklahoma, (rated by " somebody " as the 7th worse asthma place

> to

> > live) that the

> > > symptoms get better?

> > >

> > > I am always skeptical of " studies " but was wondering. My Dr is

> > " retiring me " , says if I go back

> > > to work I will end up back in the hospital and since I've been

> there

> > twice since Feb, he

> > > doesn't think that will be a good thing. I have

an " opportunity "

> to

> > move and was wondering if

> > > I should factor in my asthma.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Ron

> >

> > Ron,

> >

> > I have lived in Arkanas, Oklahoma, Texas and NC. Every time we

> move,

> > the people there say " ohhhhh this is the worse place in the

> country to

> > live if you have asthma and allergies. "

> >

> > I don't think we are safe anywhere! sigh!

> >

> > Doug

> >

> Ron,

>

> I live in Phoenix and have severe asthma like the rest on this

site.

> To answer your question regarding improvement of symptoms in

> Arizona, I'd have to say that the lower humidity is definately a

> plus for me. Previously, I lived in N. Carolina and Texas...both

> areas had significantly higher humidity levels and my asthma was

> worse.

>

> Now, my allergies are not as big a problem for me as they used to

be

> when I was younger. I believe that two courses of shots helped

there

> significantly. Also, I believe that my meds for asthma completey

> mask any allergic (hay fever) symptoms I may have. Some say Phoenix

> and other large cities in AZ are the worse place you cab move for

> youe allergies. The reason being that there is a large amount of

> dust in the air, Also, the population has exploded over the last 20

> years and everyone has planted yards, trees, etc to make it no

> longer the barren desert environment. Air pollution (CO &

> particulates)is a problem here in Phoenix.

>

> Also, people develop new sensitivities when they move from one

place

> to another. You may just end up changing your triggers and the bad

> part is that it may take a season or two to notice. It's hard to

> come out for a couple of months and make a decision.

>

> For me it is a big improvement, but keep in mind that allergies are

> no longer the limiting factor to me.

>

> Best of luck to you!

>

> Jay

>

[Guest guest]

I have two relatives that live in AZ, both Sun City and Tucson, and

they told me NOT to come out there for the very reasons describe below.

That's why, a week from Monday, my family and I are moving to Klamath

Falls, OR. It's in the very south central part of the state. It is

considered " high altitude desert " climate, very dry, cold/cool. I have

talked to about 20 people who have moved there from other parts of the

country, CA, the midwest etc... that have had dramatic/absolute

resolution of their allergies. I guess we'll see for me!

But folks looking for a lesser evil in the allergy location game, think

high altitude dry areas of the country. New Mexico has some, Montana

etc....Both cold AND dry help us guys, maybe these locations would give

us at least a little respite!

Theresa

Kansas, soon to be Oregon!

_____________________

tiredofsteroids wrote:

>Many years ago, people with asthma often did better by moving to

>places like Arizona where the air was dry and pollen levels were low

>because of the dessert. However, over the past several decades so

>many folks have moved there and planted lawns, flowers and trees that

>could survive as long as they are watered (now there's lots of

>irrigation), that pollen counts are very high and the many

>allergists now practicing there are very, very busy!

> Fran

>

>

>

>>

>>

>>>--- In , " ronaldcrpntr " <cowtrail@>

>>>

>>>

>>wrote:

>>

>>

>>>>Is there any validity to the claim that if you live in a " dry "

>>>>

>>>>

>>>climate, like Tucson, AZ as opposed

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>move,

>>

>>

>>>the people there say " ohhhhh this is the worse place in the

>>>

>>>

>>country to

>>

>>

>>>live if you have asthma and allergies. "

>>>

>>>I don't think we are safe anywhere! sigh!

>>>

>>>Doug

>>>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for this Woody. The Children's Centre in Corby is particularly impressive, as is Margy Whalley. Where there are facilities for co-location of all children's services that really is a good idea, as you say. I worry a little bit about the severing of links with GPs, because similar arguments were made for locating health visitors into general practice: better co-ordination, it's where parents attend regularly, improved communication etc. The problem is that we cannot integrate with everyone and everywhere! And for every excellent children's centre, there seems to be a duff one. Hopefully the good ones will prevail, though, and since the Directors of Children's Services now have legislative responsibility for ensuring good provision (including good health service provision) for children, perhaps they will continue to improve. Let's hope!'Floods' were just a opportunity for puddle-hopping as far as the grand-chidren were concerned, but it was certainly wild and windy! Not much fun for everyone who has been flooded for real, though. best wishesOn 14 Nov 2009, at 12:04, Caan, Woody wrote:Dear ,I do hope the floods in Dorset just mentioned on the radio news have nottroubled the Cowleys too much!This morning I am taking a break from an Essex conference on Early Years & Childcare Settings (mainly Children's Centres). In discussion with EarlyYears Professionals and their Trainers, it emerged very strongly that theywant a team-around-the-child that includes parents/grandparents AND healthvisitors - in fact they saw HV home visits (e.g. through FNP) as a keyelement connecting the infant educational staff to the significant adults ina 2 year old's life!One of the influential Trainers was Margy Whalley at the Pen Green Centre inCorby, and she said her Centre's team includes a CAMHS nurse (and of courseNursery Nurses who work with their Northamptonshire HVs). When HVs were GP-based the view was that they had failed to connect withEarly Years services....Perhaps, to paraphrase the TV show, Co-location is everything?Warmest regards,Woody.________________________________From: on behalf of CowleySent: Fri 13/11/2009 13:06 Subject: Re: HV recruitment and retention premiumHi Reeta and Kathy Several London Trusts have both recruitment and retention bonuses in place,e.g. £1000-£1500 on recruitment and again if you stay 18 months to 2 years.I am not sure how they got over the equity issue, sorry. Perhaps there issomething about paying the retention bonus to all staff who stay for another18 months after the scheme is announced?kind regardsOn 12 Nov 2009, at 22:51, kathy soderquist wrote:We also have great difficulty recruiting. A recruitment bonus waslooked at about 6 months ago, however, it wasn't taken forward even though Ihad money in my budget to fund it for a limited period. It was feltinequitable for those staff already in post and those other staff in otherservices, despite the fact that no other service has problems withrecruitment. The whole situation is very frustrating for me as a middlemanager and very stressful for staff having to bear the weight of huge andcomplex caseloads.If anyone out there has a simple answer that senior management wouldbe able to make a positive decision about, please let me know.Kathy________________________________ From: sharmanburchellhotmailDate: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:36:52 +0000Subject: RE: HV recruitment and retention premiumHi reeta , I thought I'd answer from a practitioners perspective. Wehad problems locally and there was talk that perhaps golden handshakes wouldbe offered to encourage people to the local area. This didn't happen and we have a freeze on vacancies locally. I havethought about this over the last few days and here are my thoughts for whatits worth! There has been a flurry of documents and evidence regarding wharttools to use when,particularly the new HCP programme and 2 year review,which is encouraging. However we might all use the same tools but apply themdifferently , and so , I think most practitioners would welcome training withrepect new developments , rather than asking stretched staff to pick up newways of working without skilling them up . I think theres a lot of excitingnew stuff ,particularly around neurological brain development in early yearsand there has been talk of e learning in this area . This however feelsforced and may reduce the level of interest and commitment to this fastdeveloping area. you may already have excellent training . I do feel thoughthat when staff are offered a lot of training , they feel more valued, andbetter equiped. I think it refresshes practice.Secondly the profession has lost a lot of staff to new projects. Insome ways this is a good indication of the skills we have , FIPS, sure startand FNP , to name a few. I think its no coincidence that these staff arepayed band 7 and above. I think this needs exploring nationally , but Iwonder whether when staff hit the top of band 6 , they can progress on toband 7. The fact that they are at the top indicates years of experience andtherefore an expensive resource to lose. I feel this may remove the need forsome HV'S to question , "now what" , and ensure experienced staff arerewarded, and retained . Lastly , my husband is a police officer and they have performancerelated pay ( which I admit would take careful exploration) they also give anannual bonus to staff posts that are difficult to recruit to , which isperhaps something the govt should look at , the bonus is payed at xmas time ,which is a real incentive to keep the payments! Just a few thoughts , Sharman________________________________ From: reeta_chaudhry2000 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 14:19:25 +0000Subject: HV recruitment and retention premiumDear Senate membershas anyone submitted proposal/case for recruitment and retention premium forHVs that they could share with me? my HV workforce is down to 50% of theorginal and dwindling by the day. i am now desperately trying to put a caseto senior management to consider fianacial incentives to retain existing HVstaff.Many ThanksRegardsReeta________________________________Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how.<http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394593/direct/01/> ________________________________View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. 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