Re: Cymbalta and pain

[Guest guest]

Hi Megwin,

May I ask what your experience was and if you noticed it right away?

Thanks, Barbara

Megwin <Ravenfeather@...> wrote:

I myself had a very bad experience with Cymbalta - I am not sure why

all the Doctors love it so much and subscribe it for pain - it consists

of two medications - an anti-psychotic and an anti-depressant.

I think we have several people in this Group that had a much more

positive outlook and it really helped them - I myself could not take

it. I have heard good and bad about it - and only you will know how it

affects you and your pain.

Good Luck - I hope it DOES work for you.

Megwin

On Jun 23, 2007, at 10:51 AM, barbarac102 wrote:

> My NP just prescribed Cymbalta for me, starting on a low dose of 20mg.

> Has anyone here had experience with it good or bad?

> I've heard both extremes.

> Would love to hear from anyone here.

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The following morning after I took it I woke feeling like I was drunk and

walking on a slant.

It felt terrible, I kept saying prayers that's how scared and bad I felt.

I tried opening the cap and taking half, I didn't like how I felt, so I didn't

bother with it.

It's another drug that has some bad side effects listed with it, like impaired

vision...or worse.

No thanks, next....

JP <jpbonner65@...> wrote:

Barb,

How was it too strong? Make you feel dopey or something else?

JP

Re: Re: Cymbalta and pain

Thanks Marsha, I had tried lyrica once and it was way too strong.

The NP has prescribed only 20mg of the cymbalta, I might give it a shot, if

it makes me sick, I'll stop, but it would be nice if my legs felt more

normal.

It would also be nice if I had a true diagnose, rather than myself saying

what's wrong with me, but that's for a different post.

Take care, Barbara

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[Guest guest]

The following morning after I took it I woke feeling like I was drunk and

walking on a slant.

It felt terrible, I kept saying prayers that's how scared and bad I felt.

I tried opening the cap and taking half, I didn't like how I felt, so I didn't

bother with it.

It's another drug that has some bad side effects listed with it, like impaired

vision...or worse.

No thanks, next....

JP <jpbonner65@...> wrote:

Barb,

How was it too strong? Make you feel dopey or something else?

JP

Re: Re: Cymbalta and pain

Thanks Marsha, I had tried lyrica once and it was way too strong.

The NP has prescribed only 20mg of the cymbalta, I might give it a shot, if

it makes me sick, I'll stop, but it would be nice if my legs felt more

normal.

It would also be nice if I had a true diagnose, rather than myself saying

what's wrong with me, but that's for a different post.

Take care, Barbara

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[Guest guest]

It can - since it has an SSRI in it - which Prozac, and Celexa and all

the other SSRIs have in it (Cymbalta is classified under Mental Health

Drugs - it is widely used for other problems).

I am glad for everyone that it helps - but there are already some

lawsuits in progress against this drug -

If it helps - take it - no matter what it is - there is not one drug

that will not have side effects, good, bad and in between. Many that

suffer from pain have said it helps them tremendously - and I am not

one to say that is not true - it does not help every one - or even hurt

every one - only YOU can make your own decision. Do some research on it

yourself - do not just take the words of others - we are all different

- and it is good that you are weighing the options - I would never say

DO NOT take it - and I would never say DO - only you can tell how you

feel - and I believe that after only a week or so you will be able to

tell how you feel. It affected my badly mentally more than physically.

I wish you the best of luck - whatever you decide.

Megwin (who distrusts all newer medications and don't always agree with

Doctors).

On Jun 23, 2007, at 7:56 PM, Barbara wrote:

> Thanks Marsha, I was hearing how it was the worst med ever and people

> were violently ill and really hard to get off of. Does it have sexual

> side effects? Hope not too bad, that would be depressing right there,

>

>

> BLEECKERST10012@... wrote: Barbara, i have never had any side

> affects from cymbalta. I started with 30 mg. I am now holding at 60.

> Makes a big difference in the pain level.

> I am on other pain meds, too.

> Marsha

> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

>

> Cymbalta and pain

>

> My NP just prescribed Cymbalta for me, starting on a low dose of 20mg.

> Has anyone here had experience with it good or bad?

> I've heard both extremes.

> Would love to hear from anyone here.

>

> Thanks

>

>

[Guest guest]

It can - since it has an SSRI in it - which Prozac, and Celexa and all

the other SSRIs have in it (Cymbalta is classified under Mental Health

Drugs - it is widely used for other problems).

I am glad for everyone that it helps - but there are already some

lawsuits in progress against this drug -

If it helps - take it - no matter what it is - there is not one drug

that will not have side effects, good, bad and in between. Many that

suffer from pain have said it helps them tremendously - and I am not

one to say that is not true - it does not help every one - or even hurt

every one - only YOU can make your own decision. Do some research on it

yourself - do not just take the words of others - we are all different

- and it is good that you are weighing the options - I would never say

DO NOT take it - and I would never say DO - only you can tell how you

feel - and I believe that after only a week or so you will be able to

tell how you feel. It affected my badly mentally more than physically.

I wish you the best of luck - whatever you decide.

Megwin (who distrusts all newer medications and don't always agree with

Doctors).

On Jun 23, 2007, at 7:56 PM, Barbara wrote:

> Thanks Marsha, I was hearing how it was the worst med ever and people

> were violently ill and really hard to get off of. Does it have sexual

> side effects? Hope not too bad, that would be depressing right there,

>

>

> BLEECKERST10012@... wrote: Barbara, i have never had any side

> affects from cymbalta. I started with 30 mg. I am now holding at 60.

> Makes a big difference in the pain level.

> I am on other pain meds, too.

> Marsha

> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

>

> Cymbalta and pain

>

> My NP just prescribed Cymbalta for me, starting on a low dose of 20mg.

> Has anyone here had experience with it good or bad?

> I've heard both extremes.

> Would love to hear from anyone here.

>

> Thanks

>

>

[Guest guest]

This is a big part of my research on it. If I go to their site it will be all

pro the drug, if I go to wacky meds, it will be anti the drug basically.

I think asking individuals who have used it as a great resource. Sure,

ultimately it is my decision.

I haven't heard lawsuits against it, that I will look up.

Thanks.

Megwin <Ravenfeather@...> wrote:

It can - since it has an SSRI in it - which Prozac, and Celexa and all

the other SSRIs have in it (Cymbalta is classified under Mental Health

Drugs - it is widely used for other problems).

I am glad for everyone that it helps - but there are already some

lawsuits in progress against this drug -

If it helps - take it - no matter what it is - there is not one drug

that will not have side effects, good, bad and in between. Many that

suffer from pain have said it helps them tremendously - and I am not

one to say that is not true - it does not help every one - or even hurt

every one - only YOU can make your own decision. Do some research on it

yourself - do not just take the words of others - we are all different

- and it is good that you are weighing the options - I would never say

DO NOT take it - and I would never say DO - only you can tell how you

feel - and I believe that after only a week or so you will be able to

tell how you feel. It affected my badly mentally more than physically.

I wish you the best of luck - whatever you decide.

Megwin (who distrusts all newer medications and don't always agree with

Doctors).

On Jun 23, 2007, at 7:56 PM, Barbara wrote:

> Thanks Marsha, I was hearing how it was the worst med ever and people

> were violently ill and really hard to get off of. Does it have sexual

> side effects? Hope not too bad, that would be depressing right there,

>

>

> BLEECKERST10012@... wrote: Barbara, i have never had any side

> affects from cymbalta. I started with 30 mg. I am now holding at 60.

> Makes a big difference in the pain level.

> I am on other pain meds, too.

> Marsha

> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

>

> Cymbalta and pain

>

> My NP just prescribed Cymbalta for me, starting on a low dose of 20mg.

> Has anyone here had experience with it good or bad?

> I've heard both extremes.

> Would love to hear from anyone here.

>

> Thanks

>

>

[Guest guest]

This is a big part of my research on it. If I go to their site it will be all

pro the drug, if I go to wacky meds, it will be anti the drug basically.

I think asking individuals who have used it as a great resource. Sure,

ultimately it is my decision.

I haven't heard lawsuits against it, that I will look up.

Thanks.

Megwin <Ravenfeather@...> wrote:

It can - since it has an SSRI in it - which Prozac, and Celexa and all

the other SSRIs have in it (Cymbalta is classified under Mental Health

Drugs - it is widely used for other problems).

I am glad for everyone that it helps - but there are already some

lawsuits in progress against this drug -

If it helps - take it - no matter what it is - there is not one drug

that will not have side effects, good, bad and in between. Many that

suffer from pain have said it helps them tremendously - and I am not

one to say that is not true - it does not help every one - or even hurt

every one - only YOU can make your own decision. Do some research on it

yourself - do not just take the words of others - we are all different

- and it is good that you are weighing the options - I would never say

DO NOT take it - and I would never say DO - only you can tell how you

feel - and I believe that after only a week or so you will be able to

tell how you feel. It affected my badly mentally more than physically.

I wish you the best of luck - whatever you decide.

Megwin (who distrusts all newer medications and don't always agree with

Doctors).

On Jun 23, 2007, at 7:56 PM, Barbara wrote:

> Thanks Marsha, I was hearing how it was the worst med ever and people

> were violently ill and really hard to get off of. Does it have sexual

> side effects? Hope not too bad, that would be depressing right there,

>

>

> BLEECKERST10012@... wrote: Barbara, i have never had any side

> affects from cymbalta. I started with 30 mg. I am now holding at 60.

> Makes a big difference in the pain level.

> I am on other pain meds, too.

> Marsha

> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

>

> Cymbalta and pain

>

> My NP just prescribed Cymbalta for me, starting on a low dose of 20mg.

> Has anyone here had experience with it good or bad?

> I've heard both extremes.

> Would love to hear from anyone here.

>

> Thanks

>

>

[Guest guest]

I noticed within Days that I was totally spaced out, very anxious,

almost phobic and in total fear - I do not know what the fear was. I

did not want to leave the House and I could not remember my own name -

I had to think about it when someone asked me. I just did not feel like

myself at all - I truly felt psychotic and not my own person - it's

hard to explain what I experienced - and it came on suddenly within

days - as soon as the took me off - all that was gone within 48 hours.

It did NOT affect my pain at all - and I still could not sleep - and I

actually displayed such a personality change that people would ask what

was wrong with me. I was no longer Megwin.

That's the best way I can explain it - but I never did have much luck

with Psych Drugs - and maybe I was the exception to the rule. I was

told to not ever take it again.

Hope this makes some sense. Also - my sugar levels seemed to get very

high all of a sudden - not sure that was related - but that also went

away.

Megwin

On Jun 24, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Barbara wrote:

> Hi Megwin,

> May I ask what your experience was and if you noticed it right away?

> Thanks, Barbara

>

> Megwin <Ravenfeather@...> wrote:

> I myself had a very bad experience with Cymbalta - I am not sure why

> all the Doctors love it so much and subscribe it for pain - it

> consists

> of two medications - an anti-psychotic and an anti-depressant.

>

> I think we have several people in this Group that had a much more

> positive outlook and it really helped them - I myself could not take

> it. I have heard good and bad about it - and only you will know how it

> affects you and your pain.

>

> Good Luck - I hope it DOES work for you.

>

> Megwin

> On Jun 23, 2007, at 10:51 AM, barbarac102 wrote:

>

> > My NP just prescribed Cymbalta for me, starting on a low dose of

> 20mg.

> > Has anyone here had experience with it good or bad?

> > I've heard both extremes.

> > Would love to hear from anyone here.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I noticed within Days that I was totally spaced out, very anxious,

almost phobic and in total fear - I do not know what the fear was. I

did not want to leave the House and I could not remember my own name -

I had to think about it when someone asked me. I just did not feel like

myself at all - I truly felt psychotic and not my own person - it's

hard to explain what I experienced - and it came on suddenly within

days - as soon as the took me off - all that was gone within 48 hours.

It did NOT affect my pain at all - and I still could not sleep - and I

actually displayed such a personality change that people would ask what

was wrong with me. I was no longer Megwin.

That's the best way I can explain it - but I never did have much luck

with Psych Drugs - and maybe I was the exception to the rule. I was

told to not ever take it again.

Hope this makes some sense. Also - my sugar levels seemed to get very

high all of a sudden - not sure that was related - but that also went

away.

Megwin

On Jun 24, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Barbara wrote:

> Hi Megwin,

> May I ask what your experience was and if you noticed it right away?

> Thanks, Barbara

>

> Megwin <Ravenfeather@...> wrote:

> I myself had a very bad experience with Cymbalta - I am not sure why

> all the Doctors love it so much and subscribe it for pain - it

> consists

> of two medications - an anti-psychotic and an anti-depressant.

>

> I think we have several people in this Group that had a much more

> positive outlook and it really helped them - I myself could not take

> it. I have heard good and bad about it - and only you will know how it

> affects you and your pain.

>

> Good Luck - I hope it DOES work for you.

>

> Megwin

> On Jun 23, 2007, at 10:51 AM, barbarac102 wrote:

>

> > My NP just prescribed Cymbalta for me, starting on a low dose of

> 20mg.

> > Has anyone here had experience with it good or bad?

> > I've heard both extremes.

> > Would love to hear from anyone here.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Totally scary stuff I'm reading, with a few good reports in between.

I really don't want another pill in me and I really don't want something

messing with my brain.

I have pain and legitimate reasons to feel down at times.

This NP was saying something about me not exercising(I was into it for almost

30 yrs and that's what probably has caused me my leg pains now) she said I was

lacking the Serotonin & Norepinephrine I got from exercising. It sort of made

sense but besides real reasons to get down and my hormones, I don't feel really

depressed. I get upset that I can't do what I used to and want my old life back

and want my son far away from Iraq and want my husband to stop having daily

panic attacks and would like to see one of us working and money coming in BUT

believe it or not I'm not real depressed about it.

I thought it sounded good if it helped with my pain and lifted my spirits, but

now, I'm not so sure.

Barbara

Megwin <Ravenfeather@...> wrote:

I noticed within Days that I was totally spaced out, very anxious,

almost phobic and in total fear - I do not know what the fear was. I

did not want to leave the House and I could not remember my own name -

I had to think about it when someone asked me. I just did not feel like

myself at all - I truly felt psychotic and not my own person - it's

hard to explain what I experienced - and it came on suddenly within

days - as soon as the took me off - all that was gone within 48 hours.

It did NOT affect my pain at all - and I still could not sleep - and I

actually displayed such a personality change that people would ask what

was wrong with me. I was no longer Megwin.

That's the best way I can explain it - but I never did have much luck

with Psych Drugs - and maybe I was the exception to the rule. I was

told to not ever take it again.

Hope this makes some sense. Also - my sugar levels seemed to get very

high all of a sudden - not sure that was related - but that also went

away.

Megwin

On Jun 24, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Barbara wrote:

> Hi Megwin,

> May I ask what your experience was and if you noticed it right away?

> Thanks, Barbara

>

> Megwin wrote:

> I myself had a very bad experience with Cymbalta - I am not sure why

> all the Doctors love it so much and subscribe it for pain - it

> consists

> of two medications - an anti-psychotic and an anti-depressant.

>

> I think we have several people in this Group that had a much more

> positive outlook and it really helped them - I myself could not take

> it. I have heard good and bad about it - and only you will know how it

> affects you and your pain.

>

> Good Luck - I hope it DOES work for you.

>

> Megwin

> On Jun 23, 2007, at 10:51 AM, barbarac102 wrote:

>

> > My NP just prescribed Cymbalta for me, starting on a low dose of

> 20mg.

> > Has anyone here had experience with it good or bad?

> > I've heard both extremes.

> > Would love to hear from anyone here.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Totally scary stuff I'm reading, with a few good reports in between.

I really don't want another pill in me and I really don't want something

messing with my brain.

I have pain and legitimate reasons to feel down at times.

This NP was saying something about me not exercising(I was into it for almost

30 yrs and that's what probably has caused me my leg pains now) she said I was

lacking the Serotonin & Norepinephrine I got from exercising. It sort of made

sense but besides real reasons to get down and my hormones, I don't feel really

depressed. I get upset that I can't do what I used to and want my old life back

and want my son far away from Iraq and want my husband to stop having daily

panic attacks and would like to see one of us working and money coming in BUT

believe it or not I'm not real depressed about it.

I thought it sounded good if it helped with my pain and lifted my spirits, but

now, I'm not so sure.

Barbara

Megwin <Ravenfeather@...> wrote:

I noticed within Days that I was totally spaced out, very anxious,

almost phobic and in total fear - I do not know what the fear was. I

did not want to leave the House and I could not remember my own name -

I had to think about it when someone asked me. I just did not feel like

myself at all - I truly felt psychotic and not my own person - it's

hard to explain what I experienced - and it came on suddenly within

days - as soon as the took me off - all that was gone within 48 hours.

It did NOT affect my pain at all - and I still could not sleep - and I

actually displayed such a personality change that people would ask what

was wrong with me. I was no longer Megwin.

That's the best way I can explain it - but I never did have much luck

with Psych Drugs - and maybe I was the exception to the rule. I was

told to not ever take it again.

Hope this makes some sense. Also - my sugar levels seemed to get very

high all of a sudden - not sure that was related - but that also went

away.

Megwin

On Jun 24, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Barbara wrote:

> Hi Megwin,

> May I ask what your experience was and if you noticed it right away?

> Thanks, Barbara

>

> Megwin wrote:

> I myself had a very bad experience with Cymbalta - I am not sure why

> all the Doctors love it so much and subscribe it for pain - it

> consists

> of two medications - an anti-psychotic and an anti-depressant.

>

> I think we have several people in this Group that had a much more

> positive outlook and it really helped them - I myself could not take

> it. I have heard good and bad about it - and only you will know how it

> affects you and your pain.

>

> Good Luck - I hope it DOES work for you.

>

> Megwin

> On Jun 23, 2007, at 10:51 AM, barbarac102 wrote:

>

> > My NP just prescribed Cymbalta for me, starting on a low dose of

> 20mg.

> > Has anyone here had experience with it good or bad?

> > I've heard both extremes.

> > Would love to hear from anyone here.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Marsha,

I the Cymbalts is stopping your pain, may I ask why you are on other pain

meds. This has pretty much been the responses from all the people I know

are on pain meds and antidepressents. I went to many symposiums and

support groups as well as a 6 month class given by Arthritis Foundation

on Fibromyalgi, when I was first diagnosed.

I asked everyone. Are you aon medication? If they said yes, I asked what are

you on? When they told me, most of them were on at least two things. When

I asked if their pain is gone, not one of them could say yes. Most of them

were

looking forward to the next medication their doctor was going to give them.

If these things are not going to take my pain away, I don't feel I should

take

them. One doctor had the nerve to tell me, You.ll still have the pain, but

you

won't care.

Roni

On 6/24/07, Megwin <Ravenfeather@...> wrote:

>

> It can - since it has an SSRI in it - which Prozac, and Celexa and all

> the other SSRIs have in it (Cymbalta is classified under Mental Health

> Drugs - it is widely used for other problems).

>

> I am glad for everyone that it helps - but there are already some

> lawsuits in progress against this drug -

>

> If it helps - take it - no matter what it is - there is not one drug

> that will not have side effects, good, bad and in between. Many that

> suffer from pain have said it helps them tremendously - and I am not

> one to say that is not true - it does not help every one - or even hurt

> every one - only YOU can make your own decision. Do some research on it

> yourself - do not just take the words of others - we are all different

> - and it is good that you are weighing the options - I would never say

> DO NOT take it - and I would never say DO - only you can tell how you

> feel - and I believe that after only a week or so you will be able to

> tell how you feel. It affected my badly mentally more than physically.

>

> I wish you the best of luck - whatever you decide.

>

> Megwin (who distrusts all newer medications and don't always agree with

> Doctors).

> On Jun 23, 2007, at 7:56 PM, Barbara wrote:

>

> > Thanks Marsha, I was hearing how it was the worst med ever and people

> > were violently ill and really hard to get off of. Does it have sexual

> > side effects? Hope not too bad, that would be depressing right there,

> >

> >

> > BLEECKERST10012@... <BLEECKERST10012%40AOL.COM> wrote: Barbara, i

> have never had any side

> > affects from cymbalta. I started with 30 mg. I am now holding at 60.

> > Makes a big difference in the pain level.

> > I am on other pain meds, too.

> > Marsha

> > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

> >

> > Cymbalta and pain

> >

> > My NP just prescribed Cymbalta for me, starting on a low dose of 20mg.

> > Has anyone here had experience with it good or bad?

> > I've heard both extremes.

> > Would love to hear from anyone here.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Marsha,

I the Cymbalts is stopping your pain, may I ask why you are on other pain

meds. This has pretty much been the responses from all the people I know

are on pain meds and antidepressents. I went to many symposiums and

support groups as well as a 6 month class given by Arthritis Foundation

on Fibromyalgi, when I was first diagnosed.

I asked everyone. Are you aon medication? If they said yes, I asked what are

you on? When they told me, most of them were on at least two things. When

I asked if their pain is gone, not one of them could say yes. Most of them

were

looking forward to the next medication their doctor was going to give them.

If these things are not going to take my pain away, I don't feel I should

take

them. One doctor had the nerve to tell me, You.ll still have the pain, but

you

won't care.

Roni

On 6/24/07, Megwin <Ravenfeather@...> wrote:

>

> It can - since it has an SSRI in it - which Prozac, and Celexa and all

> the other SSRIs have in it (Cymbalta is classified under Mental Health

> Drugs - it is widely used for other problems).

>

> I am glad for everyone that it helps - but there are already some

> lawsuits in progress against this drug -

>

> If it helps - take it - no matter what it is - there is not one drug

> that will not have side effects, good, bad and in between. Many that

> suffer from pain have said it helps them tremendously - and I am not

> one to say that is not true - it does not help every one - or even hurt

> every one - only YOU can make your own decision. Do some research on it

> yourself - do not just take the words of others - we are all different

> - and it is good that you are weighing the options - I would never say

> DO NOT take it - and I would never say DO - only you can tell how you

> feel - and I believe that after only a week or so you will be able to

> tell how you feel. It affected my badly mentally more than physically.

>

> I wish you the best of luck - whatever you decide.

>

> Megwin (who distrusts all newer medications and don't always agree with

> Doctors).

> On Jun 23, 2007, at 7:56 PM, Barbara wrote:

>

> > Thanks Marsha, I was hearing how it was the worst med ever and people

> > were violently ill and really hard to get off of. Does it have sexual

> > side effects? Hope not too bad, that would be depressing right there,

> >

> >

> > BLEECKERST10012@... <BLEECKERST10012%40AOL.COM> wrote: Barbara, i

> have never had any side

> > affects from cymbalta. I started with 30 mg. I am now holding at 60.

> > Makes a big difference in the pain level.

> > I am on other pain meds, too.

> > Marsha

> > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

> >

> > Cymbalta and pain

> >

> > My NP just prescribed Cymbalta for me, starting on a low dose of 20mg.

> > Has anyone here had experience with it good or bad?

> > I've heard both extremes.

> > Would love to hear from anyone here.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

roni, there are a lot of stupid doctors out there. but there are also a

llot of good doctors and we need to find those. i have several issues. the

terrible fibro, as you know. i also have a synoivlal cyst at L4/L5 sitting on

a

nerve, tons of arthritis in my spine and knees and avascular necrosis in my

knees which are always pretty aggravated. i had a cage put in at L3-L4 a

year ago, May.

the other meds are to control all the pain from all these issues which tend

to exacerbate each other. i have a duragesic patch and i take oxyir for b

reak through pain. i also try to help myself as much as possible through diet.

tons of exercise and getting out of bed in the morning and going into my

life. the cymbalta is primarily for the pain from the fibro as i understand

it.

marsha

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[Guest guest]

roni, there are a lot of stupid doctors out there. but there are also a

llot of good doctors and we need to find those. i have several issues. the

terrible fibro, as you know. i also have a synoivlal cyst at L4/L5 sitting on

a

nerve, tons of arthritis in my spine and knees and avascular necrosis in my

knees which are always pretty aggravated. i had a cage put in at L3-L4 a

year ago, May.

the other meds are to control all the pain from all these issues which tend

to exacerbate each other. i have a duragesic patch and i take oxyir for b

reak through pain. i also try to help myself as much as possible through diet.

tons of exercise and getting out of bed in the morning and going into my

life. the cymbalta is primarily for the pain from the fibro as i understand

it.

marsha

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[Guest guest]

Marsha I'm so sorry to hear of all your problems. I wish that the medical

profession

would start to find cures for our problems instead of just pills that don't

really do

much more than line the pockets of the Pharma companies, and the spill down

from there

to the doctors and hospitals. It's a travesty that they are so much more

interested

in lining their pockets than in helping patients to actually get well.

Roni

On 6/24/07, BLEECKERST10012@... <BLEECKERST10012@...> wrote:

>

> roni, there are a lot of stupid doctors out there. but there are also a

> llot of good doctors and we need to find those. i have several issues. the

>

> terrible fibro, as you know. i also have a synoivlal cyst at L4/L5 sitting

> on a

> nerve, tons of arthritis in my spine and knees and avascular necrosis in

> my

> knees which are always pretty aggravated. i had a cage put in at L3-L4 a

> year ago, May.

> the other meds are to control all the pain from all these issues which

> tend

> to exacerbate each other. i have a duragesic patch and i take oxyir for b

> reak through pain. i also try to help myself as much as possible through

> diet.

> tons of exercise and getting out of bed in the morning and going into my

> life. the cymbalta is primarily for the pain from the fibro as i

> understand it.

> marsha

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

> http://www.aol.com.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Marsha I'm so sorry to hear of all your problems. I wish that the medical

profession

would start to find cures for our problems instead of just pills that don't

really do

much more than line the pockets of the Pharma companies, and the spill down

from there

to the doctors and hospitals. It's a travesty that they are so much more

interested

in lining their pockets than in helping patients to actually get well.

Roni

On 6/24/07, BLEECKERST10012@... <BLEECKERST10012@...> wrote:

>

> roni, there are a lot of stupid doctors out there. but there are also a

> llot of good doctors and we need to find those. i have several issues. the

>

> terrible fibro, as you know. i also have a synoivlal cyst at L4/L5 sitting

> on a

> nerve, tons of arthritis in my spine and knees and avascular necrosis in

> my

> knees which are always pretty aggravated. i had a cage put in at L3-L4 a

> year ago, May.

> the other meds are to control all the pain from all these issues which

> tend

> to exacerbate each other. i have a duragesic patch and i take oxyir for b

> reak through pain. i also try to help myself as much as possible through

> diet.

> tons of exercise and getting out of bed in the morning and going into my

> life. the cymbalta is primarily for the pain from the fibro as i

> understand it.

> marsha

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

> http://www.aol.com.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I never heard of losing Seratonin and/or Norepinephrine from exercising

in all my years of working in the medical field - you can lose

Potassium of you do not take enough liquids - and the actual Athletes

do not produce all the hormones they should - they stop menstruating

because they train and train and train -

Exercise is supposed to increase your endorphins which help pain - and

I doubt that your leg pain are caused from exercising - never heard of

that either. It is not good if you go from strenous exercise to nothing

all of a sudden - but it would not cause the symptoms you describe. I

guess you have been checked for other causes (I hope). Arteries can get

clogged sometimes and cause pain - there are many, many causes for leg

pain. If he suggested Cymbalta for leg pain - I don't know - you would

be better of with Neurontin or even Lyrica. My Insurance still does not

carry Lyrica - they tell me that this medication has not been tested

long enough. I wouldn't know.

I suffer from Depression - have my whole life - and now with the pain

it's worse at times - and I took Cymbalta and it did not help my

depression or my pain.

But you saw the " good " posts - and it won't hurt you to try it - I

think you would notice the funny side effects within days - I was ready

to be committed to the Sanitarium - lol -within 5 days or so.

I honestly believe since Cymbalta and Lyrica are fairly new on the

Market they are pushed by the Companies - and considered a cure-all -

sort of like when Prozac came along. I have no doubt that they do help

some people - I wasn't one of them.

Megwin

On Jun 24, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Barbara wrote:

> Totally scary stuff I'm reading, with a few good reports in between.

> I really don't want another pill in me and I really don't want

> something messing with my brain.

> I have pain and legitimate reasons to feel down at times.

> This NP was saying something about me not exercising(I was into it

> for almost 30 yrs and that's what probably has caused me my leg pains

> now) she said I was lacking the Serotonin & Norepinephrine I got from

> exercising. It sort of made sense but besides real reasons to get down

> and my hormones, I don't feel really depressed. I get upset that I

> can't do what I used to and want my old life back and want my son far

> away from Iraq and want my husband to stop having daily panic attacks

> and would like to see one of us working and money coming in BUT

> believe it or not I'm not real depressed about it.

>

> I thought it sounded good if it helped with my pain and lifted my

> spirits, but now, I'm not so sure.

>

> Barbara

>

>

[Guest guest]

I never heard of losing Seratonin and/or Norepinephrine from exercising

in all my years of working in the medical field - you can lose

Potassium of you do not take enough liquids - and the actual Athletes

do not produce all the hormones they should - they stop menstruating

because they train and train and train -

Exercise is supposed to increase your endorphins which help pain - and

I doubt that your leg pain are caused from exercising - never heard of

that either. It is not good if you go from strenous exercise to nothing

all of a sudden - but it would not cause the symptoms you describe. I

guess you have been checked for other causes (I hope). Arteries can get

clogged sometimes and cause pain - there are many, many causes for leg

pain. If he suggested Cymbalta for leg pain - I don't know - you would

be better of with Neurontin or even Lyrica. My Insurance still does not

carry Lyrica - they tell me that this medication has not been tested

long enough. I wouldn't know.

I suffer from Depression - have my whole life - and now with the pain

it's worse at times - and I took Cymbalta and it did not help my

depression or my pain.

But you saw the " good " posts - and it won't hurt you to try it - I

think you would notice the funny side effects within days - I was ready

to be committed to the Sanitarium - lol -within 5 days or so.

I honestly believe since Cymbalta and Lyrica are fairly new on the

Market they are pushed by the Companies - and considered a cure-all -

sort of like when Prozac came along. I have no doubt that they do help

some people - I wasn't one of them.

Megwin

On Jun 24, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Barbara wrote:

> Totally scary stuff I'm reading, with a few good reports in between.

> I really don't want another pill in me and I really don't want

> something messing with my brain.

> I have pain and legitimate reasons to feel down at times.

> This NP was saying something about me not exercising(I was into it

> for almost 30 yrs and that's what probably has caused me my leg pains

> now) she said I was lacking the Serotonin & Norepinephrine I got from

> exercising. It sort of made sense but besides real reasons to get down

> and my hormones, I don't feel really depressed. I get upset that I

> can't do what I used to and want my old life back and want my son far

> away from Iraq and want my husband to stop having daily panic attacks

> and would like to see one of us working and money coming in BUT

> believe it or not I'm not real depressed about it.

>

> I thought it sounded good if it helped with my pain and lifted my

> spirits, but now, I'm not so sure.

>

> Barbara

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree, I think it's sickening.

Many doctors don't even know what they are prescribing, and I do wonder if

they get anything out of oushing certain drugs.

It is amazing that in this year of 2007 that there still isn't a pain pill

that really treats pain, without bad side effects and dependency.

It is amazing that after years some of us aren't even diagnose, but treated

like crap from some doctors. If they think they can't cut, then you are wasting

their time.

It's always amazing to find a kind doctor. I'd settle for House, not being

kind, that could help.

Roni Molin <moonangel99@...> wrote:

Marsha I'm so sorry to hear of all your problems. I wish that the medical

profession

would start to find cures for our problems instead of just pills that don't

really do

much more than line the pockets of the Pharma companies, and the spill down

from there

to the doctors and hospitals. It's a travesty that they are so much more

interested

in lining their pockets than in helping patients to actually get well.

Roni

On 6/24/07, BLEECKERST10012@... wrote:

>

> roni, there are a lot of stupid doctors out there. but there are also a

> llot of good doctors and we need to find those. i have several issues. the

>

> terrible fibro, as you know. i also have a synoivlal cyst at L4/L5 sitting

> on a

> nerve, tons of arthritis in my spine and knees and avascular necrosis in

> my

> knees which are always pretty aggravated. i had a cage put in at L3-L4 a

> year ago, May.

> the other meds are to control all the pain from all these issues which

> tend

> to exacerbate each other. i have a duragesic patch and i take oxyir for b

> reak through pain. i also try to help myself as much as possible through

> diet.

> tons of exercise and getting out of bed in the morning and going into my

> life. the cymbalta is primarily for the pain from the fibro as i

> understand it.

> marsha

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

> http://www.aol.com.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree, I think it's sickening.

Many doctors don't even know what they are prescribing, and I do wonder if

they get anything out of oushing certain drugs.

It is amazing that in this year of 2007 that there still isn't a pain pill

that really treats pain, without bad side effects and dependency.

It is amazing that after years some of us aren't even diagnose, but treated

like crap from some doctors. If they think they can't cut, then you are wasting

their time.

It's always amazing to find a kind doctor. I'd settle for House, not being

kind, that could help.

Roni Molin <moonangel99@...> wrote:

Marsha I'm so sorry to hear of all your problems. I wish that the medical

profession

would start to find cures for our problems instead of just pills that don't

really do

much more than line the pockets of the Pharma companies, and the spill down

from there

to the doctors and hospitals. It's a travesty that they are so much more

interested

in lining their pockets than in helping patients to actually get well.

Roni

On 6/24/07, BLEECKERST10012@... wrote:

>

> roni, there are a lot of stupid doctors out there. but there are also a

> llot of good doctors and we need to find those. i have several issues. the

>

> terrible fibro, as you know. i also have a synoivlal cyst at L4/L5 sitting

> on a

> nerve, tons of arthritis in my spine and knees and avascular necrosis in

> my

> knees which are always pretty aggravated. i had a cage put in at L3-L4 a

> year ago, May.

> the other meds are to control all the pain from all these issues which

> tend

> to exacerbate each other. i have a duragesic patch and i take oxyir for b

> reak through pain. i also try to help myself as much as possible through

> diet.

> tons of exercise and getting out of bed in the morning and going into my

> life. the cymbalta is primarily for the pain from the fibro as i

> understand it.

> marsha

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

> http://www.aol.com.

>

>

[Guest guest]

The internet is never the best place to express yourself, at least it hasn't

proven so to me.

I was trying to say after years of exercising, it is very possible that I hurt

my back, which in turn caused the leg pain.

I've had mris on my back, I have ddd, some spinal stenosis, multi-level

bulging disks, arthritis...I was saying the exercising could be part of the

reason for the pain. All I know is that in July 2005, I woke up with a bad lower

back pain, I had been I think exercising on my stationary bike the day before,

but I had a routine of exercise every day of the week plus moved cross country,

so this, and aging sounds like it could be the cause of pain in both of my legs.

I tried Lyrica, I would never take that again, I wrote about that, I thought

on here. It made me feel like I was drunk the next day and walking on a slant,

very scary.

The cymbalta sounds scary too.

I am not a depressed person. It was prescribed more for pain but like I

believe I said, I do get down over real life issues, which are many at the

moment.

Well, good luck to you and I hope I made myself more understandable and if

not, I guess that's ok too, I tried.

Megwin <Ravenfeather@...> wrote:

I never heard of losing Seratonin and/or Norepinephrine from exercising

in all my years of working in the medical field - you can lose

Potassium of you do not take enough liquids - and the actual Athletes

do not produce all the hormones they should - they stop menstruating

because they train and train and train -

Exercise is supposed to increase your endorphins which help pain - and

I doubt that your leg pain are caused from exercising - never heard of

that either. It is not good if you go from strenous exercise to nothing

all of a sudden - but it would not cause the symptoms you describe. I

guess you have been checked for other causes (I hope). Arteries can get

clogged sometimes and cause pain - there are many, many causes for leg

pain. If he suggested Cymbalta for leg pain - I don't know - you would

be better of with Neurontin or even Lyrica. My Insurance still does not

carry Lyrica - they tell me that this medication has not been tested

long enough. I wouldn't know.

I suffer from Depression - have my whole life - and now with the pain

it's worse at times - and I took Cymbalta and it did not help my

depression or my pain.

But you saw the " good " posts - and it won't hurt you to try it - I

think you would notice the funny side effects within days - I was ready

to be committed to the Sanitarium - lol -within 5 days or so.

I honestly believe since Cymbalta and Lyrica are fairly new on the

Market they are pushed by the Companies - and considered a cure-all -

sort of like when Prozac came along. I have no doubt that they do help

some people - I wasn't one of them.

Megwin

On Jun 24, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Barbara wrote:

> Totally scary stuff I'm reading, with a few good reports in between.

> I really don't want another pill in me and I really don't want

> something messing with my brain.

> I have pain and legitimate reasons to feel down at times.

> This NP was saying something about me not exercising(I was into it

> for almost 30 yrs and that's what probably has caused me my leg pains

> now) she said I was lacking the Serotonin & Norepinephrine I got from

> exercising. It sort of made sense but besides real reasons to get down

> and my hormones, I don't feel really depressed. I get upset that I

> can't do what I used to and want my old life back and want my son far

> away from Iraq and want my husband to stop having daily panic attacks

> and would like to see one of us working and money coming in BUT

> believe it or not I'm not real depressed about it.

>

> I thought it sounded good if it helped with my pain and lifted my

> spirits, but now, I'm not so sure.

>

> Barbara

>

>

[Guest guest]

The internet is never the best place to express yourself, at least it hasn't

proven so to me.

I was trying to say after years of exercising, it is very possible that I hurt

my back, which in turn caused the leg pain.

I've had mris on my back, I have ddd, some spinal stenosis, multi-level

bulging disks, arthritis...I was saying the exercising could be part of the

reason for the pain. All I know is that in July 2005, I woke up with a bad lower

back pain, I had been I think exercising on my stationary bike the day before,

but I had a routine of exercise every day of the week plus moved cross country,

so this, and aging sounds like it could be the cause of pain in both of my legs.

I tried Lyrica, I would never take that again, I wrote about that, I thought

on here. It made me feel like I was drunk the next day and walking on a slant,

very scary.

The cymbalta sounds scary too.

I am not a depressed person. It was prescribed more for pain but like I

believe I said, I do get down over real life issues, which are many at the

moment.

Well, good luck to you and I hope I made myself more understandable and if

not, I guess that's ok too, I tried.

Megwin <Ravenfeather@...> wrote:

I never heard of losing Seratonin and/or Norepinephrine from exercising

in all my years of working in the medical field - you can lose

Potassium of you do not take enough liquids - and the actual Athletes

do not produce all the hormones they should - they stop menstruating

because they train and train and train -

Exercise is supposed to increase your endorphins which help pain - and

I doubt that your leg pain are caused from exercising - never heard of

that either. It is not good if you go from strenous exercise to nothing

all of a sudden - but it would not cause the symptoms you describe. I

guess you have been checked for other causes (I hope). Arteries can get

clogged sometimes and cause pain - there are many, many causes for leg

pain. If he suggested Cymbalta for leg pain - I don't know - you would

be better of with Neurontin or even Lyrica. My Insurance still does not

carry Lyrica - they tell me that this medication has not been tested

long enough. I wouldn't know.

I suffer from Depression - have my whole life - and now with the pain

it's worse at times - and I took Cymbalta and it did not help my

depression or my pain.

But you saw the " good " posts - and it won't hurt you to try it - I

think you would notice the funny side effects within days - I was ready

to be committed to the Sanitarium - lol -within 5 days or so.

I honestly believe since Cymbalta and Lyrica are fairly new on the

Market they are pushed by the Companies - and considered a cure-all -

sort of like when Prozac came along. I have no doubt that they do help

some people - I wasn't one of them.

Megwin

On Jun 24, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Barbara wrote:

> Totally scary stuff I'm reading, with a few good reports in between.

> I really don't want another pill in me and I really don't want

> something messing with my brain.

> I have pain and legitimate reasons to feel down at times.

> This NP was saying something about me not exercising(I was into it

> for almost 30 yrs and that's what probably has caused me my leg pains

> now) she said I was lacking the Serotonin & Norepinephrine I got from

> exercising. It sort of made sense but besides real reasons to get down

> and my hormones, I don't feel really depressed. I get upset that I

> can't do what I used to and want my old life back and want my son far

> away from Iraq and want my husband to stop having daily panic attacks

> and would like to see one of us working and money coming in BUT

> believe it or not I'm not real depressed about it.

>

> I thought it sounded good if it helped with my pain and lifted my

> spirits, but now, I'm not so sure.

>

> Barbara

>

>

[Guest guest]

They say the same thing about Neurontin and Lyrica - and they say it

about Cymbalta. None of these were PAIN Medications - and they still

aren't. They are meant for seizures (except for Cymbalta - which is

classified under Psychotic Drugs as an Anti-Depressant).

Neurontin and Lyrica are for Neuropathy -(originally developed for

seizures) which is that awful tingling and dead feeling you get from

nerve pain. If you had a bad tooth ache or head ache - you would find

out that none of those three would take away the pain -

What they hope to accomplish with using these meds - is to not

necessarily help YOU - but help the pain meds work better. Neurontin is

also used in Bi-Polar People - it can give you a lift in your Spirits

which will pass with time.

I look up ALL meds the Doctor gives me - and I really do not care what

they actually were meant for - but I DO KNOW the classifications - and

I will not take something that I think might cause me harm. I was

offered the Fentanyl Patch by my new PC - I looked it up - after I read

almost 4 pages of what could happen to me (along with the meds I

already take and the Illnesses I am fighting) I would not EVER take

this medication - I do not care WHAT the Doctor says. It is not meant

for People with Breathing Problems (I have Asthma) that's the first

warning. Heart Problems are the 2nd warning - and I have early (or

irregular) heartbeat which does not need to be treated yet - but most

likely will be in the future. There was much more - especially where

elderly people are concerned.

I respectfully declined the patch - and I would much rather be on

Oxycontin - or Oxycodone - whichever -

I don't think these Doctors always know about the Interaction of

medications - usually the Pharmacist knows more than the Doctors about

that.

No pill is good for you - and you have to weigh your options - does the

benefit outweigh the risk.......

Just my own opinion.

Megwin

On Jun 24, 2007, at 6:42 PM, BLEECKERST10012@... wrote:

> roni, there are a lot of stupid doctors out there. but there are also a

> llot of good doctors and we need to find those. i have several

> issues. the

> terrible fibro, as you know. i also have a synoivlal cyst at L4/L5

> sitting on a

> nerve, tons of arthritis in my spine and knees and avascular necrosis

> in my

> knees which are always pretty aggravated. i had a cage put in at

> L3-L4 a

> year ago, May.

> the other meds are to control all the pain from all these issues

> which tend

> to exacerbate each other. i have a duragesic patch and i take oxyir

> for b

> reak through pain. i also try to help myself as much as possible

> through diet.

> tons of exercise and getting out of bed in the morning and going into

> my

> life. the cymbalta is primarily for the pain from the fibro as i

> understand it.

> marsha

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

> http://www.aol.com.

>

>

[Guest guest]

They say the same thing about Neurontin and Lyrica - and they say it

about Cymbalta. None of these were PAIN Medications - and they still

aren't. They are meant for seizures (except for Cymbalta - which is

classified under Psychotic Drugs as an Anti-Depressant).

Neurontin and Lyrica are for Neuropathy -(originally developed for

seizures) which is that awful tingling and dead feeling you get from

nerve pain. If you had a bad tooth ache or head ache - you would find

out that none of those three would take away the pain -

What they hope to accomplish with using these meds - is to not

necessarily help YOU - but help the pain meds work better. Neurontin is

also used in Bi-Polar People - it can give you a lift in your Spirits

which will pass with time.

I look up ALL meds the Doctor gives me - and I really do not care what

they actually were meant for - but I DO KNOW the classifications - and

I will not take something that I think might cause me harm. I was

offered the Fentanyl Patch by my new PC - I looked it up - after I read

almost 4 pages of what could happen to me (along with the meds I

already take and the Illnesses I am fighting) I would not EVER take

this medication - I do not care WHAT the Doctor says. It is not meant

for People with Breathing Problems (I have Asthma) that's the first

warning. Heart Problems are the 2nd warning - and I have early (or

irregular) heartbeat which does not need to be treated yet - but most

likely will be in the future. There was much more - especially where

elderly people are concerned.

I respectfully declined the patch - and I would much rather be on

Oxycontin - or Oxycodone - whichever -

I don't think these Doctors always know about the Interaction of

medications - usually the Pharmacist knows more than the Doctors about

that.

No pill is good for you - and you have to weigh your options - does the

benefit outweigh the risk.......

Just my own opinion.

Megwin

On Jun 24, 2007, at 6:42 PM, BLEECKERST10012@... wrote:

> roni, there are a lot of stupid doctors out there. but there are also a

> llot of good doctors and we need to find those. i have several

> issues. the

> terrible fibro, as you know. i also have a synoivlal cyst at L4/L5

> sitting on a

> nerve, tons of arthritis in my spine and knees and avascular necrosis

> in my

> knees which are always pretty aggravated. i had a cage put in at

> L3-L4 a

> year ago, May.

> the other meds are to control all the pain from all these issues

> which tend

> to exacerbate each other. i have a duragesic patch and i take oxyir

> for b

> reak through pain. i also try to help myself as much as possible

> through diet.

> tons of exercise and getting out of bed in the morning and going into

> my

> life. the cymbalta is primarily for the pain from the fibro as i

> understand it.

> marsha

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

> http://www.aol.com.

>

>