Re: Methadone and personal pain management

[Guest guest]

Pain knows no age. Do not judge the 60's as you will soon be there and see that

nothing hurts less at 49 than it does at 60. Why classify pain by age and give

the bad shit to us OLD folks as we are past being useful to society?!

Thanks for that info, now that I am duly informed about pain and age, I can

hardly wait to be 60 so us olddies can be drugged and sit slobbering in a chair

back in the corner. Please be kinder in your thoughts. Old age doesn't begin

at the magic number of 60, but I bet when you were 39 it began at 50. For a

well informed group that was a really bad statement.

Shirley

marypdombrowski <marypdombrowski@...> wrote:

Hi

You know, I've heard that methadone works for some people when every

last other thing has been tried and hasn't done the job. I suppose

that in that situation, you have already ruled out surgery and plan

on taking the methadone for the rest of your life . . . seems mighty

rough for a young person, I agree. Not to mention that new

treatments are always coming along, why make a young person

dependent on methadone and then have them go through withdrawal? I

think they should restrict methadone Rx's to old folks, maybe 60+?

(Sorry if any of you out there take offense at being called " old " !

I'm 49 myself and not getting any younger!)

One of the things I hate the *most* about having a back problem is

the decisions you have to make, every single day, about whether you

should take your pain meds at the same level as yesterday, take more

of them, or take less of them. Day after day after day. Some days

I'm willing to tough it out and skip some. Other days, the least

little extra twinge--boom, I take a pill b/c I can't stand dealing

with it.

Just my personal pet peeve, I guess . . . I don't think anyone

should take a med that makes them feel sick, by the way.

in town, PA

[Guest guest]

Wow...I don't think you meant for your post to be taken so badly, but reading

between the lines, it does make it sound like we should take the senior citizens

out back and shoot them...put them out of their misery. Some days I wish you

could so I wouldn't have to deal with this anymore...and I am only 44!!

And I do have one med that makes me very sick...percocet, but I learned to

take phenegren with it to ease the adverse reactions. I still get nauseated, but

the pain relief is worth it.

marypdombrowski <marypdombrowski@...> wrote:

. . . seems mighty rough for a young person, I agree. Not to mention that

new treatments are always coming along, why make a young person

dependent on methadone and then have them go through withdrawal? I

think they should restrict methadone Rx's to old folks, maybe 60+?

. . . I don't think anyone should take a med that makes them feel sick, by the

way.

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[Guest guest]

Age and pain certainly do not go hand in hand thats for sure. I am only 35,

gonna be 36 in November and I have a body racked with pain and feel like I have

a body of an 80 year old person. Making comments like that about old people was

very unnecessary and could be hurtful to some people who are in their 60's or

older. Please think before you hit send and remember that behind each screen

name is a person with feelings.

I don't remember who made the comment about old people, but you know who you

are and I hope you will be more careful about what you type before you send it.

We are all here for support not to slam anyone for any reason.

who is in Utah and is a real person with feelings just like everyone else

on this group.

Shirley Moma <shirleymoma@...> wrote:

Pain knows no age. Do not judge the 60's as you will soon be there and see

that nothing hurts less at 49 than it does at 60. Why classify pain by age and

give the bad shit to us OLD folks as we are past being useful to society?!

Thanks for that info, now that I am duly informed about pain and age, I can

hardly wait to be 60 so us olddies can be drugged and sit slobbering in a chair

back in the corner. Please be kinder in your thoughts. Old age doesn't begin

at the magic number of 60, but I bet when you were 39 it began at 50. For a

well informed group that was a really bad statement.

Shirley

marypdombrowski <marypdombrowski@...> wrote:

Hi

You know, I've heard that methadone works for some people when every

last other thing has been tried and hasn't done the job. I suppose

that in that situation, you have already ruled out surgery and plan

on taking the methadone for the rest of your life . . . seems mighty

rough for a young person, I agree. Not to mention that new

treatments are always coming along, why make a young person

dependent on methadone and then have them go through withdrawal? I

think they should restrict methadone Rx's to old folks, maybe 60+?

(Sorry if any of you out there take offense at being called " old " !

I'm 49 myself and not getting any younger!)

One of the things I hate the *most* about having a back problem is

the decisions you have to make, every single day, about whether you

should take your pain meds at the same level as yesterday, take more

of them, or take less of them. Day after day after day. Some days

I'm willing to tough it out and skip some. Other days, the least

little extra twinge--boom, I take a pill b/c I can't stand dealing

with it.

Just my personal pet peeve, I guess . . . I don't think anyone

should take a med that makes them feel sick, by the way.

in town, PA

[Guest guest]

WILL YOU ALL STOP AND LISTEN TO YOURSELVES YOU SOUND AND ARE ACTING LIKE A

BUNCH OF OLD LADIES!!!!! IF YOU CAN'T MAKE A COMMENT IN THIS GROUP THEN DON'T

STAY IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOMEONE ELSE'S ADVICE BUT DON'T RIP THEM APART

#1 YOUR NOT DOCTORS,NOBODY HERE IS QUALIFIED TO GIVE ADVICE ON MEDICATIONS.

#2 AND IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON MEDS YOU TAKE YOU SHOULD SAVE THEM FOR THE

PHARMACIST.

#3 IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A SPINE DISORDER YOU SHOULD NOT BE HERE. MAYBE A GROUP

FOR DEPRESSION WOULD BE MORE IN ORDER!!!

MARK FROM BOSTON

WHY AM I HERE BECAUSE I DEAL WITH SPINAL STENOSIS!

HAVING AN OUTLET OF PEOPLE TO TALK WITH THAT HAVE HAD OR ARE GOING TO HAVE

SURGERIES WILL KEEP YOU SANE AND CAN HELP. AFTER SIX SURGERIES THE LAST BEING

5 WEEKS AGO FOR CRANIOCERVICAL FUSION C0,C1,C2,C3 AND C4. PLEASE STOP

BICKERING AND HELP EACH OTHER THAT'S SUPPORT.

THANKS MARK FROM BOSTON. 46 YEARS OLD. THIS IS ME

_http://journals.aol.com/immort1/PAININTHENECK/_

(http://journals.aol.com/immort1/PAININTHENECK/)

[Guest guest]

Suffer from depression, NOW that's where we differ,I not only have had

multiple surgeries and live in daily pain but do not wallow in self pity. I am

sorry for your feelings of depression and despair but stop and do something

about it. I'm not saying I'm perfect but find someone to balance your meds.

Oh I cant have an opinion but you can rip someone for their post, what

exactly is your spinal disorder?

Mark from Boston

[Guest guest]

Mark, first off stop shouting at everyone. Using all caps on the internet means

you are yelling and that is not acceptable. Second, who the heck do you think

you are to tell people what they can and cannot do? And who gives you the right

to call everyone names?

Nobody in this group has claimed to be doctors. Nobody gives medical advice as

a doctor. What people give is personal experiences that may help others. And for

your information, I am here in this group for spinal issues and an upcoming

surgery on my back. Just cuz you are fortunate enough to not have to suffer from

depression does not mean others don't.

I am beginning to really not appreciate your emails cuz you never seem to have

anything nice to say and you are always yelling at everyone.

You are not in charge of this group so you do not have the right to say what

people can or cannot talk about in this group.

In my personal opinion you need to learn some respect and tactfulness.

in Utah who shows everyone respect!!!!!!

WILL YOU ALL STOP AND LISTEN TO YOURSELVES YOU SOUND AND ARE ACTING LIKE A

BUNCH OF OLD LADIES!!!!! IF YOU CAN'T MAKE A COMMENT IN THIS GROUP THEN DON'T

STAY IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOMEONE ELSE'S ADVICE BUT DON'T RIP THEM APART

#1 YOUR NOT DOCTORS,NOBODY HERE IS QUALIFIED TO GIVE ADVICE ON MEDICATIONS.

#2 AND IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON MEDS YOU TAKE YOU SHOULD SAVE THEM FOR THE

PHARMACIST.

#3 IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A SPINE DISORDER YOU SHOULD NOT BE HERE. MAYBE A GROUP

FOR DEPRESSION WOULD BE MORE IN ORDER!!!

MARK FROM BOSTON

WHY AM I HERE BECAUSE I DEAL WITH SPINAL STENOSIS!

HAVING AN OUTLET OF PEOPLE TO TALK WITH THAT HAVE HAD OR ARE GOING TO HAVE

SURGERIES WILL KEEP YOU SANE AND CAN HELP. AFTER SIX SURGERIES THE LAST BEING

5 WEEKS AGO FOR CRANIOCERVICAL FUSION C0,C1,C2,C3 AND C4. PLEASE STOP

BICKERING AND HELP EACH OTHER THAT'S SUPPORT.

THANKS MARK FROM BOSTON. 46 YEARS OLD. THIS IS ME

_http://journals.aol.com/immort1/PAININTHENECK/_

(http://journals.aol.com/immort1/PAININTHENECK/)

[Guest guest]

I am not ripping into you. I am simply asking you where you get off being so

rude to people and telling people what they can and cannot talk about on this

group. For your information depression is a huge part of dealing with pain,

disorders and other health issues that people have. And for your information I

am not wallowing in self pity. I was having a rough day and I am allowed to come

here and share it with people who believe in giving others support. Instead of

criticizing people and what they say, why don't you try to be supportive? People

might be a bit more receptive to your posts.

As for my spinal disorder, I suffer from rapidly aggressive degenerative disc

disease from the top to the bottom that with each test that is done it is worse

than the one before it. I also suffer from arthritis in my spine along with the

rest of my body and I have 3 herniated discs in my lumbar. I will be having a 2

level lumbar fusion sometime over the next month or two. And with the kind of

support I have witness here so far by you, I hope by the time I have my surgey

you will have learned to be more respectful and polite to other and that you

will learn to be supprtive in a support group. Yes this is a SUPPORT GROUP. And

so far I have not seen you be very supportive.

in Utah, happily respecting and supporting those around her!!!

Immort1@... wrote:

Suffer from depression, NOW that's where we differ,I not only have had

multiple surgeries and live in daily pain but do not wallow in self pity. I am

sorry for your feelings of depression and despair but stop and do something

about it. I'm not saying I'm perfect but find someone to balance your meds.

Oh I cant have an opinion but you can rip someone for their post, what

exactly is your spinal disorder?

Mark from Boston

[Guest guest]

Regarding methadone, it does work great for some and not so good for others.

One word of caution is the generic version called Methadose is known to make

people very sick. I had a bad reaction to this drug and was admitted to the

hospital for observation because of elevate blood chemistry and a abnormal

t-wave in my EKG.

After Methadose, I was placed on the Duragesic patches and now wear 2-100

microgram/hr patches. The best advice I can provide for anyone living in

chronic pain on a daily basis and all the baggage that comes with it is to

seek a good certified pain management doctor. Many general doctors don’t

have the experience or expertise for prescribing and monitoring the drug

regime for someone in chronic pain. Once under the care of a good pain

doctor, you will be able to start getting pain levels under control.

I have several inoperable thoracic ruptured discs compressing my spinal cord

6 mm. I suffer mostly from pain and due get occasional numbness. Once I

loose the use of my extremities, I will have surgery. Until then I have to

rely on the Lord to help get me through because I can't do it alone. My

family is very important and supportive. Fortunately, I haven't had much

depression to speak of mostly because of my faith in the lord.

I do wish everyone the best of luck. It's not easy for anyone to deal with

and may be harder for the younger one who suffer from pain. I am unable to

work, collecting LTD, and awaiting a date with SSD for my appeal hearing.

The younger you are the harder it is to win your case.

Anyway,

God Bless,

Methadone and personal pain management

Hi

You know, I've heard that methadone works for some people when every

last other thing has been tried and hasn't done the job. I suppose

that in that situation, you have already ruled out surgery and plan

on taking the methadone for the rest of your life . . . seems mighty

rough for a young person, I agree. Not to mention that new

treatments are always coming along, why make a young person

dependent on methadone and then have them go through withdrawal? I

think they should restrict methadone Rx's to old folks, maybe 60+?

(Sorry if any of you out there take offense at being called " old " !

I'm 49 myself and not getting any younger!)

One of the things I hate the *most* about having a back problem is

the decisions you have to make, every single day, about whether you

should take your pain meds at the same level as yesterday, take more

of them, or take less of them. Day after day after day. Some days

I'm willing to tough it out and skip some. Other days, the least

little extra twinge--boom, I take a pill b/c I can't stand dealing

with it.

Just my personal pet peeve, I guess . . . I don't think anyone

should take a med that makes them feel sick, by the way.

in town, PA

[Guest guest]

hello, everyone. the purpose of this group is to support one another. not

attack.

well, mark, at least you got rid of the capitals. but i would like to say

that i have joined this group bec. i hav e issues that need support. spine

issues. but it is my decision whether i am a member of this group. not anyone

else's. jeez,

where is the love????

In a message dated 6/5/2006 12:47:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Immort1@... writes:

Suffer from depression, NOW that's where we differ,I not only have had

multiple surgeries and live in daily pain but do not wallow in self pity. I

am

sorry for your feelings of depression and despair but stop and do something

about it. I'm not saying I'm perfect but find someone to balance your meds.

Oh I cant have an opinion but you can rip someone for their post, what

exactly is your spinal disorder?

Mark from Boston

[Guest guest]

I'm not attacking any one individual ! I deal with daily depression,pain

from fibro,pain from the spinal stenosis and the number of surgeries in the last

19 months. So if my approach was thought to attack any one person I

apologize.

Mark from Boston

_http://journals.aol.com/immort1/PAININTHENECK/_

(http://journals.aol.com/immort1/PAININTHENECK/)

[Guest guest]

way to go mark, an apology always works.

marsha

[Guest guest]

Thanks!!

Mark from Boston

[Guest guest]

sorry Mark but saying things like " BUNCH OF OLD LADIES " is offensive.

i think for the most part this has been a very helpful, open group, willing to

listen to others problems, share our own health issues and try to remember that

when we do share our own issues it is not meant to say that is how everyone else

should do it. and when there is a glitch, we quickly deal with it. i have not

heard anyone RIP THEM APART. sometimes a difference of opinion may sound like

anger but email is a horrible way to communicate because there are no facial

expressions or voices although i must say that when you type in all caps Mark,

it " sounds " like you are yelling.

respectfully,

Carlene in MT

Re: Methadone and personal pain management

WILL YOU ALL STOP AND LISTEN TO YOURSELVES YOU SOUND AND ARE ACTING LIKE A

BUNCH OF OLD LADIES!!!!! IF YOU CAN'T MAKE A COMMENT IN THIS GROUP THEN DON'T

STAY IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOMEONE ELSE'S ADVICE BUT DON'T RIP THEM APART

#1 YOUR NOT DOCTORS,NOBODY HERE IS QUALIFIED TO GIVE ADVICE ON MEDICATIONS.

#2 AND IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON MEDS YOU TAKE YOU SHOULD SAVE THEM FOR THE

PHARMACIST.

#3 IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A SPINE DISORDER YOU SHOULD NOT BE HERE. MAYBE A GROUP

FOR DEPRESSION WOULD BE MORE IN ORDER!!!

MARK FROM BOSTON

WHY AM I HERE BECAUSE I DEAL WITH SPINAL STENOSIS!

HAVING AN OUTLET OF PEOPLE TO TALK WITH THAT HAVE HAD OR ARE GOING TO HAVE

SURGERIES WILL KEEP YOU SANE AND CAN HELP. AFTER SIX SURGERIES THE LAST BEING

5 WEEKS AGO FOR CRANIOCERVICAL FUSION C0,C1,C2,C3 AND C4. PLEASE STOP

BICKERING AND HELP EACH OTHER THAT'S SUPPORT.

THANKS MARK FROM BOSTON. 46 YEARS OLD.

[Guest guest]

i second that .

Carlene in MT

Re: Methadone and personal pain management

Mark, first off stop shouting at everyone. Using all caps on the internet means

you are yelling and that is not acceptable. Second, who the heck do you think

you are to tell people what they can and cannot do? And who gives you the right

to call everyone names?

Nobody in this group has claimed to be doctors. Nobody gives medical advice as

a doctor. What people give is personal experiences that may help others. And for

your information, I am here in this group for spinal issues and an upcoming

surgery on my back. Just cuz you are fortunate enough to not have to suffer from

depression does not mean others don't.

I am beginning to really not appreciate your emails cuz you never seem to have

anything nice to say and you are always yelling at everyone.

You are not in charge of this group so you do not have the right to say what

people can or cannot talk about in this group.

In my personal opinion you need to learn some respect and tactfulness.

in Utah who shows everyone respect!!!!!!

[Guest guest]

i don't think anyone in this group has been wallowing in self pity. one of the

most important aspects about dealing with chronic, debilitating pain is to talk

about it to someone else who understands how i am feeling. that is what a

support group does and that is why i am here; to share my experiences, listen to

others w/o judgement.

Carlene in MT

Re: Methadone and personal pain management

Suffer from depression, NOW that's where we differ,I not only have had

multiple surgeries and live in daily pain but do not wallow in self pity. I am

sorry for your feelings of depression and despair but stop and do something

about it. I'm not saying I'm perfect but find someone to balance your meds.

Oh I cant have an opinion but you can rip someone for their post, what

exactly is your spinal disorder?

Mark from Boston