Guest guest Posted January 28, 1999 Report Share Posted January 28, 1999 I have tried to e-mail (atnomea-@...) this individual to no avail. For some reason I can't open her web site. Would someone elaborate a little more about her diet? Sounds interesting. Thanks. Dorris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 That's kinda why I asked if anyone was doing Gerson Therapy to help repair their thyroid disorders. Last December, DH and I went totally vegan - for the purpose of dealing with his type-2 diabetes, and for him, the results have been amazing. He can almost be considered free of type-2. His doctor's last letter, littered with lots of exclamation points said, " whatever you're doing, keep doing it. " Well, I've been eating the same stuff, but I gained 5 pounds. Then someone suggested I was sabotaging my efforts with all of the soy that we were eating to replace the dairy and egg that we had eliminated. So, for the past two weeks I've been eating a modified Gerson Maintenance diet. . . and I've lost 3 pounds! It entails LOTS of juice, oatmeal every morning, (sweetened only with a little dried fruit or honey,) and fresh fruits and vegetables, fresh soups without dairy, salt, or a lot of other restricted food items. It's tough, but before the diet, the Levo and cytomel felt totally ineffectual, but now, I'm starting to stay up past 8:00 PM, and get up with some energy. I've started re-painting the whole house. Maybe it's all just in my head, but I don't think so. The vegan thing is going to have to remain in our house, simply because DH is having such wonderful results with it, but now he's making the shift from so much soy to a little bit of soy, more fresh foods and NO processed foods. Lots of cookin' going on here. Annette. www.sofiecouch.com _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of trying2bnatural Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 8:02 PM hypothyroidism Subject: THyroid diet Have any of you found the right foods/diet for your hypothyroid? I feel like I get digestion problems that may be related to having hypothyroid, but who knows?! I also have on/off tinnutis and for the past 3 weeks straight I have had dry sinus - not drainage or a sinus cold or anything like that. I just have congested sinus which wakes me up at 5am every morning b/c I can't breathe. I don't think that is from hypothyroid - in fact I was reading about a syndrome from the neck that I think could be causing it but who knows. BUt, it has never happened like this before. I also take levo and feel it isn't working. I have gained 10 pounds in the past couple of months without doing anything different and I have been feeling tired again. I just feel bloated and I have a huge neck - I know I have seen pictures of people that have helped their thyroid and even their necks get smaller. ANyway, I just want to feel better. I know exercise would help too and I plan to integrate that - but feeling so tired all the time doesn't give you much motivation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Funny thing is I don't have heartburn/acid reflux, although I have a physical condition [schatcki Ring] that tends toward greater levels of reflux. .. .. > > Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@... > <mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20THyroid%20diet> > matchermaam <matchermaam> > > > Sat May 30, 2009 6:08 pm (PDT) > > > > For digestion problems, I have found that natural vegetarian multi > enzyme capsules work like a charm. No more drugs and no more heartburn > (as long as I remember to take one before I eat). > > Roni > <>Just because something > isn't seen doesn't mean it's > not there<> > > > > From: <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> > Subject: Re:THyroid diet > hypothyroidism > <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> > Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 4:01 PM > > My diet is the nightmare of every person who know about " healthy " > eating. Yet I take 75 mcg Synthroid [equivalent] daily and have no > problems. There are no " natural food " or " supplement " cures. The > " natural " thing to do when you get hypothyroidism is to become ill and > die after very long and unpleasant time. That's not what most of us want. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Digestion decreases as one gets older, some sooner some later. If you have any digestion problems at all that can lead to other things. I use mult vegetarina enzymes which digest all the different types of food we ingest; protein, fat, carbs, fiber and milk stuffs. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: trying2bnatural <cynfulpleasure@...> Subject: Re: THyroid diet hypothyroidism Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 8:20 PM I don't have any reflux problems or indegestion. It is more cravings and sometimes just feeling like food sits in my stomach too long and doesn't move through. I also heard a homepathic MD talk locally and he said that he feels some of our diets, vaccines, etc. are causing new problems like allergies, digestion issues, and sensitivities that didn't exist before. I agree with that as I see it firsthand, and often. So many kids have allergies to all kinds of things - when i was a kid I never knew anyone with allergies. I also disagree about food not making a difference to health and well-being. There is tons of research out there to support that. Plus, , you have pointed to several of your health issues, so no disrespect but, it is possible that your terrible diet isn't so great for your health. I am not a huge Shomon fan, but there are also others out there that say diet makes a difference and I was wondering about member's personal experience or research on this subject. From what I have gathered so far - caffeine and fiber can lessen the effect of thyroid medication. Otherwise, gluten free, vegan, etc. - I have not found much solid research about those types of restrictions. > > > > From: <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> > > Subject: Re:THyroid diet > > hypothyroidism > > <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> > > Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 4:01 PM > > > > My diet is the nightmare of every person who know about " healthy " > > eating. Yet I take 75 mcg Synthroid [equivalent] daily and have no > > problems. There are no " natural food " or " supplement " cures. The > > " natural " thing to do when you get hypothyroidism is to become ill and > > die after very long and unpleasant time. That's not what most of us want. > > > > > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I didn't say food has nothing to do with well being; without it we wouldn't last very long. I'm not saying my diet is good for my health; I'm sure it's not. I AM saying that for some people apparently the concern about a " healthy diet " may be somewhat overblown OR we don't really know what makes a " healthy diet " for everybody. According to some self styled experts on healthy eating I would have been dead long ago; and I suspect that would in fact be true for some people. And I could keel over at any time and 68 isn't all that old. Strangely, even those who are " certified " nutritionists [or whatever] often disagree as to what we should eat, especially if you look back over a period of even a few years. Luck, .. .. > > Posted by: " trying2bnatural " cynfulpleasure@... > <mailto:cynfulpleasure@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20THyroid%20diet> > trying2bnatural <trying2bnatural> > > > Mon Jun 1, 2009 8:21 pm (PDT) > > > > I also disagree about food not making a difference to health and > well-being. There is tons of research out there to support that. Plus, > , you have pointed to several of your health issues, so no > disrespect but, it is possible that your terrible diet isn't so great > for your health. > > I am not a huge Shomon fan, but there are also others out there > that say diet makes a difference and I was wondering about member's > personal experience or research on this subject. From what I have > gathered so far - caffeine and fiber can lessen the effect of thyroid > medication. Otherwise, gluten free, vegan, etc. - I have not found > much solid research about those types of restrictions. > > > > > > Funny thing is I don't have heartburn/acid reflux, although I have a > > physical condition [schatcki Ring] that tends toward greater levels of > > reflux. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 If you want to heal from Hypothyroidism join the " NaturalThyroidHormones " group & the " Iodine " group. Don't listen to those who take Synthroid. They believe it will make you better, when all it will do is mask your symptoms, and you're health will deteriorate. -A On Jun 1, 2009, at 8:40 PM, Roni Molin wrote: > > > Digestion decreases as one gets older, some sooner some later. If > you have any digestion problems at all that can lead to other > things. I use mult vegetarina enzymes which digest all the different > types of food we ingest; protein, fat, carbs, fiber and milk stuffs. > > Roni > <>Just because something > isn't seen doesn't mean it's > not there<> > > > > From: trying2bnatural <cynfulpleasure@...> > Subject: Re: THyroid diet > hypothyroidism > Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 8:20 PM > > I don't have any reflux problems or indegestion. It is more > cravings and sometimes just feeling like food sits in my stomach too > long and doesn't move through. I also heard a homepathic MD talk > locally and he said that he feels some of our diets, vaccines, etc. > are causing new problems like allergies, digestion issues, and > sensitivities that didn't exist before. I agree with that as I see > it firsthand, and often. So many kids have allergies to all kinds > of things - when i was a kid I never knew anyone with allergies. > > I also disagree about food not making a difference to health and > well-being. There is tons of research out there to support that. > Plus, , you have pointed to several of your health issues, so > no disrespect but, it is possible that your terrible diet isn't so > great for your health. > > I am not a huge Shomon fan, but there are also others out there > that say diet makes a difference and I was wondering about member's > personal experience or research on this subject. From what I have > gathered so far - caffeine and fiber can lessen the effect of > thyroid medication. Otherwise, gluten free, vegan, etc. - I have > not found much solid research about those types of restrictions. > > > > > > > > From: <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> > > > Subject: Re:THyroid diet > > > hypothyroidism > > > <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> > > > Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 4:01 PM > > > > > > My diet is the nightmare of every person who know about " healthy " > > > eating. Yet I take 75 mcg Synthroid [equivalent] daily and have > no > > > problems. There are no " natural food " or " supplement " cures. The > > > " natural " thing to do when you get hypothyroidism is to become > ill and > > > die after very long and unpleasant time. That's not what most > of us want. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 YES!!! Diet does have a huge impact on health - disease prevention, disease control and disease remedy! DH has ELIMINATED his type 2 diabetes through a strictly vegan diet. It was tough, coming from a meat and potatoes family and me being a meat, dairy, egg and sugar sort of cook, but we made the transition. (6 months and counting.) My uncle cured his " terminal " cancer through diet. My neighbor across the road was told last year to go home and smell the roses, because he had 3 months - tops. I see him through the window on his tractor. He's not smelling roses. He's enjoying an alternative diet. (BTW, his PSAs are normal again and he has no sign of prostate cancer.) The notion, as someone else suggested in an earlier post, that this is some get-rich-quick scheme is ludicrous. Who makes money off of your diet? Pick up a copy of THE CHINA STUDY: Startling Implications for Diet, Weight Loss and Long-term Health, by T. Colin , PhD and M. . There are striking similarities between people of certain diet tendencies and auto-immune diseases, including Thyroid disease. Hashimotos is mentioned in particular. Then pick up a copy of GERSON THERAPY. Yeah, some book publisher out there is capitalizing off of the thirty bucks you've just plunked down, but trust me, the author(s) are only getting, at most, 10% of that, but when I compare that to the $30/month I'm shelling out for medication, (after insurance,) that is all but ineffectual, I think it's money I can risk. Sorry, I know I sound like the poster child for " Hypothyroidism: Find the Cure " , but that's my goal. I don't want to be on pharmaceuticals indefinitely. unless I've picked them off of a tree, shrub or root. Is that a pipe dream? Possibly, but I joined the loop, because, (and it's evident,) that here is a collective of very bright, mostly well informed people who are just looking for a way to make themselves feel better. You folks know more about T-levels than the handful of doctors I've seen and more than I will probably ever know. But I do know that two weeks into my new, adaptive, vegan diet, (cutting out the soy now,) I've got energy and I've lost 5 pounds - something I hadn't been able to accomplish in the past ten years, the last two of which have included pharmaceutical popping. Okay, now you can go ahead and flame me. I'm a big girl. (Ha ha! What an understatement!) I can take it. Annette. www.sofiecouch.com _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of trying2bnatural Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 11:20 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: THyroid diet I don't have any reflux problems or indegestion. It is more cravings and sometimes just feeling like food sits in my stomach too long and doesn't move through. I also heard a homepathic MD talk locally and he said that he feels some of our diets, vaccines, etc. are causing new problems like allergies, digestion issues, and sensitivities that didn't exist before. I agree with that as I see it firsthand, and often. So many kids have allergies to all kinds of things - when i was a kid I never knew anyone with allergies. I also disagree about food not making a difference to health and well-being. There is tons of research out there to support that. Plus, , you have pointed to several of your health issues, so no disrespect but, it is possible that your terrible diet isn't so great for your health. I am not a huge Shomon fan, but there are also others out there that say diet makes a difference and I was wondering about member's personal experience or research on this subject. From what I have gathered so far - caffeine and fiber can lessen the effect of thyroid medication. Otherwise, gluten free, vegan, etc. - I have not found much solid research about those types of restrictions. > > > > From: <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> > > Subject: Re:THyroid diet > > hypothyroidism@ <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> > > <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> > > Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 4:01 PM > > > > My diet is the nightmare of every person who know about " healthy " > > eating. Yet I take 75 mcg Synthroid [equivalent] daily and have no > > problems. There are no " natural food " or " supplement " cures. The > > " natural " thing to do when you get hypothyroidism is to become ill and > > die after very long and unpleasant time. That's not what most of us want. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Yes, . Nutrition, unfortunately follows the latest fad, instead of the best evidence. It always amazes me that doctors prescribe this or that medication to " treat " conditons that can be eradicated with the proper food. Nutrition is as bad as the exercise industry. Everyone tries to carve out their own little niche of income, whether the advice actually helps or hurts. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: <res075oh@...> Subject: Re: THyroid diet hypothyroidism Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 9:25 PM I didn't say food has nothing to do with well being; without it we wouldn't last very long. I'm not saying my diet is good for my health; I'm sure it's not. I AM saying that for some people apparently the concern about a " healthy diet " may be somewhat overblown OR we don't really know what makes a " healthy diet " for everybody. According to some self styled experts on healthy eating I would have been dead long ago; and I suspect that would in fact be true for some people. And I could keel over at any time and 68 isn't all that old. Strangely, even those who are " certified " nutritionists [or whatever] often disagree as to what we should eat, especially if you look back over a period of even a few years. Luck, .. .. > > Posted by: " trying2bnatural " cynfulpleasure@... > <mailto:cynfulpleasure@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20THyroid%20diet> > trying2bnatural <trying2bnatural> > > > Mon Jun 1, 2009 8:21 pm (PDT) > > > > I also disagree about food not making a difference to health and > well-being. There is tons of research out there to support that. Plus, > , you have pointed to several of your health issues, so no > disrespect but, it is possible that your terrible diet isn't so great > for your health. > > I am not a huge Shomon fan, but there are also others out there > that say diet makes a difference and I was wondering about member's > personal experience or research on this subject. From what I have > gathered so far - caffeine and fiber can lessen the effect of thyroid > medication. Otherwise, gluten free, vegan, etc. - I have not found > much solid research about those types of restrictions. > > > > > > Funny thing is I don't have heartburn/acid reflux, although I have a > > physical condition [schatcki Ring] that tends toward greater levels of > > reflux. > > > > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 I know for me, I cannot take iron or iodine. I'm not going to get into a back and forth debate about this, just making a statement for me about me. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> > > From: trying2bnatural <cynfulpleasure@...> > Subject: Re: THyroid diet > hypothyroidism > Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 8:20 PM > > I don't have any reflux problems or indegestion. It is more > cravings and sometimes just feeling like food sits in my stomach too > long and doesn't move through. I also heard a homepathic MD talk > locally and he said that he feels some of our diets, vaccines, etc. > are causing new problems like allergies, digestion issues, and > sensitivities that didn't exist before. I agree with that as I see > it firsthand, and often. So many kids have allergies to all kinds > of things - when i was a kid I never knew anyone with allergies. > > I also disagree about food not making a difference to health and > well-being. There is tons of research out there to support that. > Plus, , you have pointed to several of your health issues, so > no disrespect but, it is possible that your terrible diet isn't so > great for your health. > > I am not a huge Shomon fan, but there are also others out there > that say diet makes a difference and I was wondering about member's > personal experience or research on this subject. From what I have > gathered so far - caffeine and fiber can lessen the effect of > thyroid medication. Otherwise, gluten free, vegan, etc. - I have > not found much solid research about those types of restrictions. > > > > > > > > From: <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> > > > Subject: Re:THyroid diet > > > hypothyroidism > > > <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> > > > Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 4:01 PM > > > > > > My diet is the nightmare of every person who know about " healthy " > > > eating. Yet I take 75 mcg Synthroid [equivalent] daily and have > no > > > problems. There are no " natural food " or " supplement " cures. The > > > " natural " thing to do when you get hypothyroidism is to become > ill and > > > die after very long and unpleasant time. That's not what most > of us want. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Annette, I am not a flame thrower so don't worry. Losing weight always seems to help any medical condition simply because your body has less to contend with. Eating a vegan diet almost by definition decreases fat, sugar, and increases fiber. There are even problems with that too, and long term studies have found certain deficiencies in long term vegans. There are books on this that I'm sure would be of interest to you. Basically, humans are picky omnivores and are made to be able to eat plants, meat, eggs, fish, fruit, and a whole lot more. There are nutrients of value in each of these, and as long as we know what food does what to our bodies, we can maintain health pretty well. Then, da,da,da, da! we come to genes. We can live a healthy lifestyle by eating healthful foods, moderately exercising, getting plenty of fresh air and sunshine, maintainining our peace of mind along with our families and friends, and all of a sudden BOOM! our genes raise their damaged heads. At that point, we have to find good, smart people like on this forum, along with doctors, books, the internet and our own powers of observation, and hope we come up with something that works. Nothing is cut and dried. We all do the best we can. EXAMPLE; Most people are given penicillin for certain kinds of infections for which it is a lifesaving drug. Me, I die because I'm violently allergic to it. We're all on a quest for health. I respect your efforts, and I would hope you respect mine. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: Annette <annette@...> Subject: RE: Re: THyroid diet hypothyroidism Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 5:41 AM YES!!! Diet does have a huge impact on health - disease prevention, disease control and disease remedy! DH has ELIMINATED his type 2 diabetes through a strictly vegan diet. It was tough, coming from a meat and potatoes family and me being a meat, dairy, egg and sugar sort of cook, but we made the transition. (6 months and counting.) My uncle cured his " terminal " cancer through diet. My neighbor across the road was told last year to go home and smell the roses, because he had 3 months - tops. I see him through the window on his tractor. He's not smelling roses. He's enjoying an alternative diet. (BTW, his PSAs are normal again and he has no sign of prostate cancer.) The notion, as someone else suggested in an earlier post, that this is some get-rich-quick scheme is ludicrous. Who makes money off of your diet? Pick up a copy of THE CHINA STUDY: Startling Implications for Diet, Weight Loss and Long-term Health, by T. Colin , PhD and M. . There are striking similarities between people of certain diet tendencies and auto-immune diseases, including Thyroid disease. Hashimotos is mentioned in particular. Then pick up a copy of GERSON THERAPY. Yeah, some book publisher out there is capitalizing off of the thirty bucks you've just plunked down, but trust me, the author(s) are only getting, at most, 10% of that, but when I compare that to the $30/month I'm shelling out for medication, (after insurance,) that is all but ineffectual, I think it's money I can risk. Sorry, I know I sound like the poster child for " Hypothyroidism: Find the Cure " , but that's my goal. I don't want to be on pharmaceuticals indefinitely. unless I've picked them off of a tree, shrub or root. Is that a pipe dream? Possibly, but I joined the loop, because, (and it's evident,) that here is a collective of very bright, mostly well informed people who are just looking for a way to make themselves feel better. You folks know more about T-levels than the handful of doctors I've seen and more than I will probably ever know. But I do know that two weeks into my new, adaptive, vegan diet, (cutting out the soy now,) I've got energy and I've lost 5 pounds - something I hadn't been able to accomplish in the past ten years, the last two of which have included pharmaceutical popping. Okay, now you can go ahead and flame me. I'm a big girl. (Ha ha! What an understatement!) I can take it. Annette. www.sofiecouch.com _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of trying2bnatural Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 11:20 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: THyroid diet I don't have any reflux problems or indegestion. It is more cravings and sometimes just feeling like food sits in my stomach too long and doesn't move through. I also heard a homepathic MD talk locally and he said that he feels some of our diets, vaccines, etc. are causing new problems like allergies, digestion issues, and sensitivities that didn't exist before. I agree with that as I see it firsthand, and often. So many kids have allergies to all kinds of things - when i was a kid I never knew anyone with allergies. I also disagree about food not making a difference to health and well-being. There is tons of research out there to support that. Plus, , you have pointed to several of your health issues, so no disrespect but, it is possible that your terrible diet isn't so great for your health. I am not a huge Shomon fan, but there are also others out there that say diet makes a difference and I was wondering about member's personal experience or research on this subject. From what I have gathered so far - caffeine and fiber can lessen the effect of thyroid medication. Otherwise, gluten free, vegan, etc. - I have not found much solid research about those types of restrictions. > > > > From: <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> > > Subject: Re:THyroid diet > > hypothyroidism@ <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> > > <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> > > Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 4:01 PM > > > > My diet is the nightmare of every person who know about " healthy " > > eating. Yet I take 75 mcg Synthroid [equivalent] daily and have no > > problems. There are no " natural food " or " supplement " cures. The > > " natural " thing to do when you get hypothyroidism is to become ill and > > die after very long and unpleasant time. That's not what most of us want. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 You cannot heal hypothyroid... I have been to those websites/groups and didn't feel they were helpful. Armour isn't for everyone, please check out what this M.D. says: http://thyroid.blogspot.com/ He has critics so I am not saying his reasoning is perfect either, but I like seeing both sides of the debate. I also found this interesting article from the ATA on iodine: http://www.thyroid.org/professionals/publications/clinthy/volume21/issue2/clinth\ y_v212_17_18.pdf > > If you want to heal from Hypothyroidism join the > " NaturalThyroidHormones " group > & the " Iodine " group. > Don't listen to those who take Synthroid. They believe it will make > you better, > when all it will do is mask your symptoms, and you're health will > deteriorate. > -A > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Funny that there's no credible research to support your position. As a matter of fact I'm under the very strong impression that whenever credible double blind studies are done that the vast majority of people do as well with T4 only as any of the other concoctions. In most cases even those who think Armour or some other medicine is superior cannot tell whether they're taking the " superior " medicine or plain Jane T4. After all, T4 is what your body makes and uses to make T3; and all of the medicines AFAIK have bioidentical T4. Yet we _do_ have one heck of a lot of anecdotal evidence; so who really knows? In any event one of the main complaints of those who prefer to NOT take Synthroid [or similar] is that it DOES NOT do anything [or enough] for the symptoms. Your position is contrary to that group as well as the experience of the 95% of patients who take T4 only and have no complaints. Further: There is no " healing " from hypothyroidism; as in there is no cure. There are sometimes remissions or periods where the disease doesn't progress [i think] very much but there is no way to cure it. Fortunately most people can take a simple pill once per day and live a perfectly normal life. Take whatever you want; but don't try to make a religion out of it. Different strokes and all that... .. .. > > Posted by: " Alison Trotta-Marshall " rubyrain11@... > <mailto:rubyrain11@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20THyroid%20diet> > gypsy1jig <gypsy1jig> > > > Mon Jun 1, 2009 9:42 pm (PDT) > > > > If you want to heal from Hypothyroidism join the > " NaturalThyroidHorm > ones " group > & the " Iodine " group. > Don't listen to those who take Synthroid. They believe it will make > you better, > when all it will do is mask your symptoms, and you're health will > deteriorate. > -A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 I was placed on synthroid for about 9 months. Everything went downhill and I got more hypo. I definitely felt the difference. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: <res075oh@...> Subject: Re: THyroid diet hypothyroidism Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 4:13 PM Funny that there's no credible research to support your position. As a matter of fact I'm under the very strong impression that whenever credible double blind studies are done that the vast majority of people do as well with T4 only as any of the other concoctions. In most cases even those who think Armour or some other medicine is superior cannot tell whether they're taking the " superior " medicine or plain Jane T4. After all, T4 is what your body makes and uses to make T3; and all of the medicines AFAIK have bioidentical T4. Yet we _do_ have one heck of a lot of anecdotal evidence; so who really knows? In any event one of the main complaints of those who prefer to NOT take Synthroid [or similar] is that it DOES NOT do anything [or enough] for the symptoms. Your position is contrary to that group as well as the experience of the 95% of patients who take T4 only and have no complaints. Further: There is no " healing " from hypothyroidism; as in there is no cure. There are sometimes remissions or periods where the disease doesn't progress [i think] very much but there is no way to cure it. Fortunately most people can take a simple pill once per day and live a perfectly normal life. Take whatever you want; but don't try to make a religion out of it. Different strokes and all that... .. .. > > Posted by: " Alison Trotta-Marshall " rubyrain11@... > <mailto:rubyrain11@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20THyroid%20diet> > gypsy1jig <gypsy1jig> > > > Mon Jun 1, 2009 9:42 pm (PDT) > > > > If you want to heal from Hypothyroidism join the > " NaturalThyroidHorm > ones " group > & the " Iodine " group. > Don't listen to those who take Synthroid. They believe it will make > you better, > when all it will do is mask your symptoms, and you're health will > deteriorate. > -A ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 In only 3 months on levothyroxine, I landed back in a wheelchair and on even more pain medications, as well as increased dosages of the ones I was already on. The doctor told my husband that if the 2 of them together took less than half of what I was on, they'd both be totally wasted...and all those pain meds just barely took the edge off the pain I was in. > > I was placed on synthroid for about 9 months. Everything went downhill and I got > more hypo. I definitely felt the difference. > > > Roni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 We are a diverse group with many different approaches and viewpoints here. I don't think you have to worry about being flamed. Don't take it as a flame if your viewpoint comes under attack by someone with a different view. Regards, .. .. > > Posted by: " Annette " annette@... > <mailto:annette@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20THyroid%20diet> > couchjareb <couchjareb> > > > Tue Jun 2, 2009 5:42 am (PDT) > > > > YES!!! Diet does have a huge impact on health - disease prevention, > disease > control and disease remedy! DH has ELIMINATED his type 2 diabetes > through a > strictly vegan diet. It was tough, coming from a meat and potatoes family > and me being a meat, dairy, egg and sugar sort of cook, but we made the > transition. (6 months and counting.) My uncle cured his " terminal " cancer > through diet. My neighbor across the road was told last year to go > home and > smell the roses, because he had 3 months - tops. I see him through the > window on his tractor. He's not smelling roses. He's enjoying an > alternative > diet. (BTW, his PSAs are normal again and he has no sign of prostate > cancer.) > > The notion, as someone else suggested in an earlier post, that this is > some > get-rich-quick scheme is ludicrous. Who makes money off of your diet? > > Pick up a copy of THE CHINA STUDY: Startling Implications for Diet, Weight > Loss and Long-term Health, by T. Colin , PhD and M. > . > There are striking similarities between people of certain diet tendencies > and auto-immune diseases, including Thyroid disease. Hashimotos is > mentioned > in particular. > > Then pick up a copy of GERSON THERAPY. Yeah, some book publisher out there > is capitalizing off of the thirty bucks you've just plunked down, but > trust > me, the author(s) are only getting, at most, 10% of that, but when I > compare > that to the $30/month I'm shelling out for medication, (after insurance,) > that is all but ineffectual, I think it's money I can risk. > > Sorry, I know I sound like the poster child for " Hypothyroidism: Find the > Cure " , but that's my goal. I don't want to be on pharmaceuticals > indefinitely. unless I've picked them off of a tree, shrub or root. Is > that > a pipe dream? Possibly, but I joined the loop, because, (and it's > evident,) > that here is a collective of very bright, mostly well informed people who > are just looking for a way to make themselves feel better. You folks know > more about T-levels than the handful of doctors I've seen and more than I > will probably ever know. But I do know that two weeks into my new, > adaptive, > vegan diet, (cutting out the soy now,) I've got energy and I've lost 5 > pounds - something I hadn't been able to accomplish in the past ten years, > the last two of which have included pharmaceutical popping. > > Okay, now you can go ahead and flame me. I'm a big girl. (Ha ha! What an > understatement! > ) I can take it. > > Annette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Type !! diabetes is something that can pretty much be eliminated. Thyroid disease, to my knowledge not yet. If they find something or some way to eliminate it, I am sure it will be tried by millions of people. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: <res075oh@...> Subject: Re: THyroid diet hypothyroidism Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 11:25 AM We are a diverse group with many different approaches and viewpoints here. I don't think you have to worry about being flamed. Don't take it as a flame if your viewpoint comes under attack by someone with a different view. Regards, .. .. > > Posted by: " Annette " annette@... > <mailto:annette@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20THyroid%20diet> > couchjareb <couchjareb> > > > Tue Jun 2, 2009 5:42 am (PDT) > > > > YES!!! Diet does have a huge impact on health - disease prevention, > disease > control and disease remedy! DH has ELIMINATED his type 2 diabetes > through a > strictly vegan diet. It was tough, coming from a meat and potatoes family > and me being a meat, dairy, egg and sugar sort of cook, but we made the > transition. (6 months and counting.) My uncle cured his " terminal " cancer > through diet. My neighbor across the road was told last year to go > home and > smell the roses, because he had 3 months - tops. I see him through the > window on his tractor. He's not smelling roses. He's enjoying an > alternative > diet. (BTW, his PSAs are normal again and he has no sign of prostate > cancer.) > > The notion, as someone else suggested in an earlier post, that this is > some > get-rich-quick scheme is ludicrous. Who makes money off of your diet? > > Pick up a copy of THE CHINA STUDY: Startling Implications for Diet, Weight > Loss and Long-term Health, by T. Colin , PhD and M. > . > There are striking similarities between people of certain diet tendencies > and auto-immune diseases, including Thyroid disease. Hashimotos is > mentioned > in particular. > > Then pick up a copy of GERSON THERAPY. Yeah, some book publisher out there > is capitalizing off of the thirty bucks you've just plunked down, but > trust > me, the author(s) are only getting, at most, 10% of that, but when I > compare > that to the $30/month I'm shelling out for medication, (after insurance,) > that is all but ineffectual, I think it's money I can risk. > > Sorry, I know I sound like the poster child for " Hypothyroidism: Find the > Cure " , but that's my goal. I don't want to be on pharmaceuticals > indefinitely. unless I've picked them off of a tree, shrub or root. Is > that > a pipe dream? Possibly, but I joined the loop, because, (and it's > evident,) > that here is a collective of very bright, mostly well informed people who > are just looking for a way to make themselves feel better. You folks know > more about T-levels than the handful of doctors I've seen and more than I > will probably ever know. But I do know that two weeks into my new, > adaptive, > vegan diet, (cutting out the soy now,) I've got energy and I've lost 5 > pounds - something I hadn't been able to accomplish in the past ten years, > the last two of which have included pharmaceutical popping. > > Okay, now you can go ahead and flame me. I'm a big girl. (Ha ha! What an > understatement! > ) I can take it. > > Annette. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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