Re: MESSAGE TO IRA FINE, YOUR GROUP MODERATOR TRY TO GET ALONG

[Guest guest]

Hi Ira,

Thank you for your post.

I am very sorry you are suffering from debilitating depression and I do

understand.

I know also what it¹s like to have no family nearby ‹

and to have such trouble with doctors treating you properly.

That said, I also agree with you on the manner in which this

group is moderated and the new information you present that if a flame war

develops you will indeed step in to ban those making the offensive posts.

That is much appreciated.

I am 50 and tell my two children all the time the same thing:

Life is Short.

Fight Nice.

Work it Out.

Be True to Yourself.

And love each other.

Other then me, they have only each other in this world.

And we all know what state this world is in.

Please do take proper care of yourself, if you can.

Sending very healing vibes and prayers your way,

Sue

On 10/25/08 7:36 AM, " Ira " <iramfine@...> wrote:

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>

> HELLO TO ALL OF THE GROUP MEMBERS:

>

> I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION WITH YOU ALL, AND MAKE SOME

> SUGGESTIONS, AS WELL.

>

> I AM HYPOTHYROID MYSELF, AND HAVE BEEN FOR SO MOST OF MY LIFE. I AM

> NOW 63 YEARS OLD. I ALSO SUFFER FROM SEVERE DEBILITATING DEPRESSION,

> ESPECIALLY BAD SINCE MY WIFE OF OVER 21 YEARS DIED FROM LUNG CANCER IN

> 2001. SO MY MOTIVATION TO TAKE CARE OF MYSELF PROPERLY IS JUST NOT

> THERE. ANTI-DEPRESSION DRUGS HAVE LIMITED BENEFIT FOR ME. THE HOLIDAYS

> ARE NOT FAR OFF, AND THEY ARE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR ME. ADDING

> S.A.D, (SEASONAL AFFECTIVE DISORDER) TO THIS ALREADY BAD SITUATION

> MAKES IT WORSE. I LIVE ALONE, AND I HAVE NO FAMILY NEARBY. I AM NOT

> LOOKING FOR SYMPATHY, BUT UNDERSTANDING. I CANNOT FIND A DOCTOR TO

> GIVE ME ARMOUR THYROID, SO I HAVE GIVEN UP TREATING MYSELF. AND I

> REFUSE TO TAKE SYNTHROID, WHICH IS ALL I SEEM TO BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO

> GET.

>

> I BELIEVE IN ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE AND PATIENTS EDUCATING THEMSELVES

> AND BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN HEALTH. ALLOPATHIC MEDICINE HAS

> ITS LEGITIMATE PLACE, BUT HAS MANY SERIOUS SHORTCOMINGS. I USED TO THE

> MODERATOR FOR THE HULDA CLARK GROUP. I USED TO BE A VERY ACTIVE

> POSTER IN MANY GROUPS LIKE THIS ONE WHICH IS WHY I HAD VOLUNTEERED TO

> BE THE MODERATOR OF SEVERAL GROUPS,INCLUDING THIS ONE. I BELIEVE IN

> ITS PURPOSE. THE GROUP OWNER IS DUSAN OF NORWAY, AND HE IS SO INVOLVED

> IN HIS OWN LIFE THERE, THAT HE IS REALLY NOT AVAILABLE FOR ANY HELP OR

> CHANGES.

>

> HAVING SAID THOSE THINGS, I WANT TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF SOME OF

> THE MEMBERS ABOUT RUDE POSTINGS AND BICKERING, FIGHTING, ETC.

>

> I AM AGAINST CENSORING POSTS, UNLESS THEY ARE OBVIOUS SPAM. I DO NOT

> WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO DO MY THINKING FOR ME, AND I WILL NOT KNOWINGLY

> DO OTHER PEOPLE'S THINKING FOR THEM. HOWEVER WITH OVER 2600 GROUP

> MEMBERS, STARTING A NEW GROUP TO REPLACE THIS ONE WOULD NOT BE AT ALL

> PRACTICAL.

>

> PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE TO BE EASILY INSULTED OR OFFENDED, OR THEY CAN

> CHOOSE TO HAVE A THICKER-SKINNED ATTITUDE. ALTHOUGH I HAVE NOT READ

> EVERY POST, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ANY OF THE POSTINGS I HAVE READ ARE

> INTENDED TO BE MEAN-SPIRITED OR OFFENSIVE. WHEN THINGS ARE WRITTEN,

> THEY CAN BE MISINTERPRETED. I AM SUGGESTING THAT THE MEMBERS OF THIS

> GROUP CHOOSE TO BE MORE TOLERANT AND LESS EASILY OFFENDED OR SENSITIVE

> BY WHAT OTHERS MIGHT POST. AND THOSE WHO DO POST, PLEASE DO NOT DO SO

> IN ANGER. TRY TO CHOOSE YOUR WORDS WISELY AND POST IN A POLITE MANNER.

> WE ARE LIVING IN A VERY STRESSFUL TIME AND OUR NATIONS ECONOMY IS VERY

> BAD. MANY OF US HAVE DAILY LIVES ARE ALSO STRESSFUL. LET'S TRY TO MAKE

> THIS GROUP A PEACEFUL HAVEN OF DISCUSSION.

>

> IF POSTS DEVELOP INTO OR BECOME A FLAME WAR, THEN I WILL STEP IN TO

> TAKE CONTROL, AND BAN THOSE PERSONS MAKING THE OFFENSIVE POSTS. I

> THINK RESPECTFULLY EXPRESSED DISAGREEMENTS ARE HEALTHY AND CAN BE

> PRODUCTIVE. OUTRIGHT INSULTS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. THERE WILL ALWAYS

> BE PERSONALITY CONFLICTS IN ANY GROUP THIS SIZE.

>

> LIFE IS SHORT; FIGHT NICE.

>

> WISHING EVERYONE A HEALTHY, HAPPY, AND PROSPEROUS HOLIDAY SEASON

>

> IRA M FINE,

> GROUP MODERATOR.

>