Iodine test

January 4, 2008

Wow, am I feeling stupid!! How did you read my first post? Am I

missing something here? Thanks

Here is my post from about a hour ago:

Hi,

I have been on iodine supplementation for about 8 months now for

thyroid non-toxic nodules. They have been shrinking (and

disappearing) since I started supplementation.

My first question is in regards to the reason the nodules first

appeared. With my symptoms I believe my thyroid had been sluggish

for years with TSH levels being around 2.5, not high enough for my

MD to take notice. In September of last I cut my finger on a

granular chlorine bucket. It healed pretty quickly but I did not

realize until about 1 month later (maybe a little longer)there was

something still in there. What I cut out of my finger appeared to be

either a granule of chlorine or a small bead shaped piece of the

bucket. In November I noticed a choking sensation whenever wearing

a t-shirt and found a lump on my neck in the area of the thyroid.

Tests revealed multi-nodules on both lobes consisting of both solid

and liquid composition. Biopsies show no malignancy. Could the

particle found in my finger have been the culprit in the formation

of the nodules or is it simply coincidental?

My second question is in regards to the iodine supplementation, to

which I have many questions but will limit it here for now. Since I

have been on the iodine supplementation I have felt great with many

hypo and hyper symptoms subsiding (it seems I have been fluctuating

between the two extremes). I have stopped on several occasions due

to controversial research I have been doing on iodine

supplementation. In doing so, within just a very short period of

time I feel terrible again (no tolerance to cold being the first

thing to return). I have had to have two mercury fillings removed

within the last six months (since my last blood work for TSH

levels). After having the last filling removed (which was a very

large one) and feeling so bad afterward I did research finding that

I all the symptoms of mercury toxicity. My blood work done up at

the beginning of December showed my TSH levels were up to 4.5 and

now my endocrinologist wants to test for autoimmune-thyroiditis. My

question is, would not the iodine supplementation have protected me

from the mercury? And why would the TSH levels be rising if the

iodine is working?

Another question: I am currently doing a heavy metal cleanse by

Renew. Is this a good one?

> >>

> >> I don't know. That test isn't an exact science for the way you

> > are trying

> >> to interpret it. It's not designed to do that.

> >>

> >> I don't have your other post. Sorry.

> >>

January 4, 2008

> Wow, am I feeling stupid!! How did you read my first post? Am I > missing something here? Thanks

I have issues with getting all the messages. Some go to a spam folder which is a pain to sign into so I never know if I get all messages or not. I have the settings for my id to go directly to my e-mail address instead of having to read from the web.

> > Here is my post from about a hour ago:> > Hi,> I have been on iodine supplementation for about 8 months now for > thyroid non-toxic nodules. They have been shrinking (and > disappearing) since I started supplementation. > > My first question is in regards to the reason the nodules first > appeared. With my symptoms I believe my thyroid had been sluggish > for years with TSH levels being around 2.5, not high enough for my > MD to take notice. In September of last I cut my finger on a > granular chlorine bucket. It healed pretty quickly but I did not > realize until about 1 month later (maybe a little longer)there was > something still in there. What I cut out of my finger appeared to be > either a granule of chlorine or a small bead shaped piece of the > bucket. In November I noticed a choking sensation whenever wearing > a t-shirt and found a lump on my neck in the area of the thyroid. > Tests revealed multi-nodules on both lobes consisting of both solid > and liquid composition. Biopsies show no malignancy. Could the > particle found in my finger have been the culprit in the formation > of the nodules or is it simply coincidental?

Well, chloride is a thyroid hormone inhibitor which is why you should avoid cooking with city water or even drinking it. Also bathing in it is toxic as well. It may be related. I don't know. You were probably just headed toward thyroid nodules anyway and it just happened at the same time.

> > My second question is in regards to the iodine supplementation, to > which I have many questions but will limit it here for now. Since I > have been on the iodine supplementation I have felt great with many > hypo and hyper symptoms subsiding (it seems I have been fluctuating > between the two extremes). I have stopped on several occasions due > to controversial research I have been doing on iodine > supplementation. In doing so, within just a very short period of > time I feel terrible again (no tolerance to cold being the first > thing to return). I have had to have two mercury fillings removed > within the last six months (since my last blood work for TSH > levels). After having the last filling removed (which was a very > large one) and feeling so bad afterward I did research finding that > I all the symptoms of mercury toxicity.

Who removed them - was it a dentist trained in removal or just a regular dentist. If they were not removed safely you were probably exposed to mercury vapor in the drilling removal and if a dental dam was not used you swallowed particles. Both will expose you. Mercury is a thyroid hormone inhibitor. It piggybacks on many hormones rendering them useless because they don't "look" like what the body is looking for. You should take lots of selenium to help with this. Glutathione and sulfer help as well. Iodine also detoxes mercury so all of this may be a factor. Also make sure you are getting enough Vit C.

My blood work done up at > the beginning of December showed my TSH levels were up to 4.5 and > now my endocrinologist wants to test for autoimmune-thyroiditis. My > question is, would not the iodine supplementation have protected me > from the mercury? And why would the TSH levels be rising if the > iodine is working?

How much iodine are you taking? Are you taking all the supporting nutrients. Iodine will not protect you unless you are A) taking enough and getting all the required nutrients and C) avoiding goitrogens / toxins that compete. It is a good idea to get your TPO Ab and Tg Ab tested.

> > Another question: I am currently doing a heavy metal cleanse by > Renew. Is this a good one?

I am not familiar with it. Do you still have amalgams in your mouth? I use DMSA, MSM and Selenium to detox. I had 11 amalgams removed.

> > > >> >>>> >> I don't know. That test isn't an exact science for the way you >> > are trying >> >> to interpret it. It's not designed to do that.>> >> >> >> I don't have your other post. Sorry.>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >

January 4, 2008

I just looked at the Renew HM Cleanse. Looks like a glorified B complex

with a few HM detox herbs - which I don't like seeing no specific amounts

because that tells you nothing about the level of dose. I would be

surprised if it is very effective if you are severely toxic.

Re: Iodine test

> Wow, am I feeling stupid!! How did you read my first post? Am I

> missing something here? Thanks

>

> Here is my post from about a hour ago:

>

> Hi,

> I have been on iodine supplementation for about 8 months now for

> thyroid non-toxic nodules. They have been shrinking (and

> disappearing) since I started supplementation.

>

> My first question is in regards to the reason the nodules first

> appeared. With my symptoms I believe my thyroid had been sluggish

> for years with TSH levels being around 2.5, not high enough for my

> MD to take notice. In September of last I cut my finger on a

> granular chlorine bucket. It healed pretty quickly but I did not

> realize until about 1 month later (maybe a little longer)there was

> something still in there. What I cut out of my finger appeared to be

> either a granule of chlorine or a small bead shaped piece of the

> bucket. In November I noticed a choking sensation whenever wearing

> a t-shirt and found a lump on my neck in the area of the thyroid.

> Tests revealed multi-nodules on both lobes consisting of both solid

> and liquid composition. Biopsies show no malignancy. Could the

> particle found in my finger have been the culprit in the formation

> of the nodules or is it simply coincidental?

>

> My second question is in regards to the iodine supplementation, to

> which I have many questions but will limit it here for now. Since I

> have been on the iodine supplementation I have felt great with many

> hypo and hyper symptoms subsiding (it seems I have been fluctuating

> between the two extremes). I have stopped on several occasions due

> to controversial research I have been doing on iodine

> supplementation. In doing so, within just a very short period of

> time I feel terrible again (no tolerance to cold being the first

> thing to return). I have had to have two mercury fillings removed

> within the last six months (since my last blood work for TSH

> levels). After having the last filling removed (which was a very

> large one) and feeling so bad afterward I did research finding that

> I all the symptoms of mercury toxicity. My blood work done up at

> the beginning of December showed my TSH levels were up to 4.5 and

> now my endocrinologist wants to test for autoimmune-thyroiditis. My

> question is, would not the iodine supplementation have protected me

> from the mercury? And why would the TSH levels be rising if the

> iodine is working?

>

> Another question: I am currently doing a heavy metal cleanse by

> Renew. Is this a good one?

>

>> >>

>> >> I don't know. That test isn't an exact science for the way you

>> > are trying

>> >> to interpret it. It's not designed to do that.

>> >>

>> >> I don't have your other post. Sorry.

>> >>

>

January 4, 2008

Thanks for looking at the Renew Cleanse for me! It sounds like I

need suggestions for something else to detox.

Fortunately, we are on well water and therefore do not have the

concerns of chlorine or fluoride in our water.

My general dentist removed the fillings. There was nothing special

done in regards to vapor or a dental dam. Wish I had known then

what I know now! I do still have a mouth full of mercury and am

quite reluctant to have anymore removed at this time with what I

just went through. I do, however, plan on seeing someone that

specializes in the procedure to lesson further mercury exposure in

the future. Can you tell me what quantities of selenium,

glutathione, sulfer and C I should take for effective detox? Is

there anything else I can do? How much of the DMSA, MSM, would you

recommend?

I am currently back up to 24mg a day of Prolamine Iodine. I never

went up to the recommended (by a nutritionist/friend) amount of 50mg

a day out of fear of everything that I had been reading regarding

too much iodine. I worked up to 36mg a day, stayed there for three

months, and starting cutting back hoping that that had my levels

sufficient. I had been down to about 9mg a day when I had the last

filling removed. Nothing was really said about other nutrients as

I had told my friend I was on a multivitamin—SuperMom by Beeyouthful—

have you heard of them and what do you think? I have, however, taken

these on an on-again, off-again basis. He also knew that I try to

eat as nutritious as possible, organic vegetables, been making my

own bread for about five years now, try to eat mostly raw, do a lot

of sprouts, etc.

I have only slightly limited goitrogens because so many of them are

so very nutritious. Also, I reasoned that I am taking the extra

iodine to help offset it.

What is the TPO Ab and Tg Ab test you mentioned? Does it have to be

ordered by a doctor? My friend/nutritionist can not order any tests

and my endo is very difficult to get in to see, let alone cooperate

with me.

Thanks again so much for the information.

Kathy

> >> >>

> >> >> I don't know. That test isn't an exact science for the way

you

> >> > are trying

> >> >> to interpret it. It's not designed to do that.

> >> >>

> >> >> I don't have your other post. Sorry.

> >> >>

> >

January 4, 2008

I agree, for a system that is supposed to Learn, this is the dumbest thing around. Roniladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote: I keep telling my mail system that it "isn't spam" so it can "learn" but it doesn't. It's a pain. So I am not ignoring you but just don't get all the messages. Even in my spam folder there aren't always all of them. Steph Re: Re: Iodine test I am having issues with sending some of my messages to the bulk folder instead of my inbox. I put filters in, which helped a bit but not all. Sigh! Roniladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbeessbcglobal (DOT) net>

wrote: > Wow, am I feeling stupid!! How did you read my first post? Am I > missing something here? Thanks I have issues with getting all the messages. Some go to a spam folder which is a pain to sign into so I never know if I get all messages or not. I have the settings for my id to go directly to my e-mail address instead of having to read from the web. > > Here is my post from about a hour ago:> > Hi,> I have been on iodine supplementation for about 8 months now for

> thyroid non-toxic nodules. They have been shrinking (and > disappearing) since I started supplementation. > > My first question is in regards to the reason the nodules first > appeared. With my symptoms I believe my thyroid had been sluggish > for years with TSH levels being around 2.5, not high enough for my > MD to take notice. In September of last I cut my finger on a > granular chlorine bucket. It healed pretty quickly but I did not > realize until about 1 month later (maybe a little longer)there was > something still in there. What I cut out of my finger appeared to be > either a granule of chlorine or a small bead shaped piece of the > bucket. In November I noticed a choking sensation whenever wearing > a t-shirt and found a lump on my neck in the area of the thyroid. > Tests revealed multi-nodules on both lobes consisting of both solid >

and liquid composition. Biopsies show no malignancy. Could the > particle found in my finger have been the culprit in the formation > of the nodules or is it simply coincidental? Well, chloride is a thyroid hormone inhibitor which is why you should avoid cooking with city water or even drinking it. Also bathing in it is toxic as well. It may be related. I don't know. You were probably just headed toward thyroid nodules anyway and it just happened at the same time. > > My second question is in regards to the iodine supplementation, to > which I have many questions but will limit it here for now. Since I > have been on the iodine supplementation I have felt great with many > hypo and hyper symptoms subsiding (it seems I have been

fluctuating > between the two extremes). I have stopped on several occasions due > to controversial research I have been doing on iodine > supplementation. In doing so, within just a very short period of > time I feel terrible again (no tolerance to cold being the first > thing to return). I have had to have two mercury fillings removed > within the last six months (since my last blood work for TSH > levels). After having the last filling removed (which was a very > large one) and feeling so bad afterward I did research finding that > I all the symptoms of mercury toxicity. Who removed them - was it a dentist trained in removal or just a regular dentist. If they were not removed safely you were probably exposed to mercury vapor in the drilling removal and if a dental dam was not used you swallowed particles. Both will

expose you. Mercury is a thyroid hormone inhibitor. It piggybacks on many hormones rendering them useless because they don't "look" like what the body is looking for. You should take lots of selenium to help with this. Glutathione and sulfer help as well. Iodine also detoxes mercury so all of this may be a factor. Also make sure you are getting enough Vit C. My blood work done up at > the beginning of December showed my TSH levels were up to 4.5 and > now my endocrinologist wants to test for autoimmune-thyroiditis. My > question is, would not the iodine supplementation have protected me > from the mercury? And why would the TSH levels be rising if the > iodine is working? How much iodine are you taking? Are you taking all the supporting nutrients. Iodine will not

protect you unless you are A) taking enough and getting all the required nutrients and C) avoiding goitrogens / toxins that compete. It is a good idea to get your TPO Ab and Tg Ab tested. > > Another question: I am currently doing a heavy metal cleanse by > Renew. Is this a good one? I am not familiar with it. Do you still have amalgams in your mouth? I use DMSA, MSM and Selenium to detox. I had 11 amalgams removed. > > > >> >>>> >> I don't know. That test isn't an exact science for the way you >> > are trying >> >> to interpret it. It's not designed to do that.>> >> >> >> I don't

have your other post. Sorry.>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >

January 4, 2008

Thanks for looking at the Renew Cleanse for me! It sounds like I need suggestions for something else to detox.Fortunately, we are on well water and therefore do not have the concerns of chlorine or fluoride in our water.

That's good.My general dentist removed the fillings. There was nothing special done in regards to vapor or a dental dam. Wish I had known then what I know now! I do still have a mouth full of mercury and am quite reluctant to have anymore removed at this time with what I just went through. I do, however, plan on seeing someone that specializes in the procedure to lesson further mercury exposure in the future.

You want someone who removes the highest charged tooth first, uses a oxygen mask for you, filter in the room, dental dam, low speed drill and administers high doses of Vit C when complete. My dentist did my mouth in quadrants (which is also a good idea). He did one a week for 4 weeks until done. We went on the 7 day immune cycle. First removal was Monday then Tuesday the following week and Wed the following and Thursday the following. I also had a root canal tooth pulled as this is a source of constant bacteria and a hit on your immune system. We did not do work on the 7th day or earlier becuase that lessens the hit to the immune system since it runs in 7 day cycles. I also did lymphatic drainage massages ever other week with Chiropractic adjustments weekly. I also took liver detox shakes (Metagenics Ultra Clear Plus) daily. It was quite an ordeal but 7 days into it I had my foggy brain clear. I lost 8 lbs of fat and gained 7 lbs of muscle in 4 weeks time with no workout. It was the mercury draining my system. My dentist was trained by Dr. Hal Huggins in the proper protocol. I was a lot better when it was over but now am extremely sensitive to mercury so when I go to his office i must take selenium, chlorella and Vit C to combat my tongue that swells.

Can you tell me what quantities of selenium, glutathione, sulfer and C I should take for effective detox? Is there anything else I can do? How much of the DMSA, MSM, would you recommend?

There is a lot of controversy about doing a chelation protocol when you stil have amalgams in your mouth. Selenium can be taken in 200-400 mcg / day. Glutathione is best in lipid form. I can't think of the brand I took. It was not good. Blah! I took 4,000 - 5,000 mgs Vit C. I take 6,00 mgs of MSM. DMSA is not recommended by the top chelation docs until you have removed the source of the toxin. the only thing you can do to stop the exposure is to remove them. They will continue to leak for the rest of your life building up in the tissues of your body. Heat causes them to release vapor as does friction. Have you seen the movie on the IAOMT website? http://www.iaomt.org/

I am currently back up to 24mg a day of Prolamine Iodine. I never went up to the recommended (by a nutritionist/friend) amount of 50mg a day out of fear of everything that I had been reading regarding too much iodine. I worked up to 36mg a day, stayed there for three months, and starting cutting back hoping that that had my levels sufficient.

If I were you with a mouth full of mercury I would keep the level of iodine high. I have no idea what Prolamine Iodine is???

I have only slightly limited goitrogens because so many of them are so very nutritious. Also, I reasoned that I am taking the extra iodine to help offset it.

I am never concerned with food it is the halides I worry about.What is the TPO Ab and Tg Ab test you mentioned? Does it have to be ordered by a doctor? My friend/nutritionist can not order any tests and my endo is very difficult to get in to see, let alone cooperate with me.TPO Ab is thyroid peroxidase antiboides and Tg Ab is thyroglobulin antibodies. They are antibody testing against the thyroid hormone creation process. This is how they diagnose hashimotos (autoimmune thyroiditis). Very common in iodine deficint people but can cause goiter, swings in levels, etc. It must be ordered by a doctor unless you get it done through www.healthcheckusa.com

January 4, 2008

Yes you would think they could get it right.

Re: Re: Iodine test

I am having issues with sending some of my messages to the bulk folder

instead of my inbox. I put filters in, which helped a bit but not all. Sigh!

Roniladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbeessbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote: