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Interesting. Thank you sol.

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candidiasis@...: solbun@...: Tue, 12 Feb

2008 13:42:20 -0700Subject: Re: Re: Joint pain

That pain could be simply diet related? When I get too high in carbs/sugars I

get a lot of joint pain. Not necessarily candida related. Or at least if it is,

in me, the candida isn't activated to such an extent that I notice it

directly.solalas _va wrote:> I am curious since I get the feeling like every

time the candida flares my leg hurts...but I don't think that it is infected

there. Do you know more about this? Is it related to toxins or something? Is

this something you yourself experience. I'd appreciate any insight really.> >

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> > I am curious since I get the feeling like every time the candida

flares my leg hurts...but I don't think that it is infected there.

Do you know more about this? Is it related to toxins or something?

Is this something you yourself experience. I'd appreciate any

insight really.

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Candida can get into your Joints, your Sinuses, your Mouth, your Muscles, your

Ear Canal, your Fingernails & Toenails, your Vagina, your Skin Creases, and

etc. etc. etc.

The Candida that live in your Colon, have to eat and when they eat, they

defecate or whatever you want to call it and THAT IS THE TOXINS that can go

right through your Intestinal Wall to travel wherever they choose.

Bonnie

RE: Re: Joint painDo any of you feel like your candida is

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ok, thank you. makes me releaved somewhat I think. so wighert how did you manage

to treat this? What was the treatment that helped you.

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candidiasis@...: wighert@...: Tue, 12 Feb 2008

21:00:49 +0000Subject: Re: Joint pain

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every time the candida flares my leg hurts...but I don't think that it is

infected there. Do you know more about this? Is it related to toxins or

something? Is this something you yourself experience. I'd appreciate any insight

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is, there is a long list of disorders including arthritis listed

on my inulin page, that are aggravated by a bowel disorder in which

candida can play a role:

http://tinyurl.com/2m29z

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flares my leg hurts...but I don't think that it is infected there. Do

you know more about this? Is it related to toxins or something? Is

this something you yourself experience. I'd appreciate any insight

really.

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Hi Wighert :I do work with people who suffer severe illnesses and

frequently they describe pain in ankles and elbows, which sometimes

they are misdiagnosed with arthritis or reumatisms. They get almost

inmediately ( three, four days to a couple of weeks) well by

eliminating highcarbs.

Simon.

Languagge and Behaviour Research Center

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is I followed all the direcctions I got in various sites. I took

Sporanox, Lamisil, probiotics and tried to keep a diet sugar and

alcohol free. I felt worse but knew that the masive dying of

candidaa was saturating my system with toxins. Then, recently, I

suspended everything and waited. When the " SMOKE CLEARED " I

quantified my symptoms and they where almost gone, confirming that I

actually had candidiasis, so I started again with the protocol and

been feeling better since. I stoped the anti fungal medications now

and keep with the probiotics I can find in this country (Mexico) but

I'm ordering Three lac to keep me away from the stupid yeast I got

from three years of Cipro and Cortisone due to Osteomlytis (bone

infection).

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feeling like every time the candida flares my leg hurts...but I

don't think that it is infected there. Do you know more about this?

Is it related to toxins or something? Is this something you yourself

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Thanks. I am in the same boat. I have to take antibiotics as well long term and

have run into the yeast issue and now feel the yeast maybe the sole contributor

to all my symptoms:( and then new ones that are cropping up...joint pain adn

incredible bloating being one. I too will prob. will have to take something like

sporanox...but my doc now wants to just keep things in check with a lot of

probiotics, alcohol/sugar free and then tackle the yeast after I am done with

the antibiotics. Meantime I feel overwhelmed a bit.

Thanks for the info. I have a question though. A little confused, but maybe I am

just tired...how did you differentiate the pain from the bone infection from

that from the joint pain from the yeast? I am being sincere in my question. I

have wondered this myself...I have attributed mine to yeast since I know the

yeast issue is becoming worse and worse. Thanks again. Honestly.

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candidiasis@...: wighert@...: Wed, 13 Feb 2008

22:27:46 +0000Subject: Re: Joint pain

is I followed all the direcctions I got in various sites. I took Sporanox,

Lamisil, probiotics and tried to keep a diet sugar and alcohol free. I felt

worse but knew that the masive dying of candidaa was saturating my system with

toxins. Then, recently, I suspended everything and waited. When the " SMOKE

CLEARED " I quantified my symptoms and they where almost gone, confirming that I

actually had candidiasis, so I started again with the protocol and been feeling

better since. I stoped the anti fungal medications now and keep with the

probiotics I can find in this country (Mexico) but I'm ordering Three lac to

keep me away from the stupid yeast I got from three years of Cipro and Cortisone

due to Osteomlytis (bone infection). > > I am curious since I get the feeling like

every time the candida flares my leg hurts...but I don't think that it is

infected there. Do you know more about this? Is it related to toxins or

something? Is this something you yourself experience. I'd appreciate any insight

really.> > > > is> >> >> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message

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A few years back I had a terrible traffic accident in which, amogst

other fractures, I had an exposed fracture to the femur. The bone

got infected and necrocised (died) in the two points where it should

have healed, and did'nt. Those infections are stuborn and require a

lot of antibioticcs of ample spectrum plus cortisone for imflamation

and pain. It took three years of constant use to control it. Now I

know that these are the main factors for my candidiasis. The pain I

felt recently in my ankles an elbow was different, more like

arthritis or bursitis. This does'nt mean that the joints have the

Candida infection in it. It mainly means that they are affected by

the TOXINS emited by the Candida in my gut or troath, and absorved

to the body trough the intestines. I can still feel some symptoms

but down to 10 %. But now I do'nt want to abuse the funguisides, so

I'm going to continue with probiotics now. I hope that I can learn

more on this subject in this group and from Duncan.

Wighert

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feeling like every time the candida flares my leg hurts...but I

don't think that it is infected there. Do you know more about this?

Is it related to toxins or something? Is this something you yourself

experience. I'd appreciate any insight really.> > > > is> >> >>

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Wighert,

Ok that makes perfect sense. Thanks for being so honest and answering all my

questions.

BTW, I hope everything else from the accident has returned back to normal for

you.

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candidiasis@...: wighert@...: Fri, 15 Feb 2008

01:39:57 +0000Subject: Re: Joint pain

is:A few years back I had a terrible traffic accident in which, amogst other

fractures, I had an exposed fracture to the femur. The bone got infected and

necrocised (died) in the two points where it should have healed, and did'nt.

Those infections are stuborn and require a lot of antibioticcs of ample spectrum

plus cortisone for imflamation and pain. It took three years of constant use to

control it. Now I know that these are the main factors for my candidiasis. The

pain I felt recently in my ankles an elbow was different, more like arthritis or

bursitis. This does'nt mean that the joints have the Candida infection in it. It

mainly means that they are affected by the TOXINS emited by the Candida in my

gut or troath, and absorved to the body trough the intestines. I can still feel

some symptoms but down to 10 %. But now I do'nt want to abuse the funguisides,

so I'm going to continue with probiotics now. I hope that I can learn more on

this subject in this group and from Duncan.Wighert > > I am curious since I get the feeling like

every time the candida flares my leg hurts...but I don't think that it is

infected there. Do you know more about this? Is it related to toxins or

something? Is this something you yourself experience. I'd appreciate any insight

really.> > > > is> >> >> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message

have been removed]> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

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You're on NAE ? Don't know if you can stress-dose with those? anyone know?

Got any Valerian, Rescue Remedy etc?

Mo

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> thanks for the support. I finally got the official 'rubber-stamped' diagnoses

for my son's ADHD and autism yesterday...after nearly four years of fighting. I

should be relieved but actually I feel rubbish about it all. Not sure if that's

why I'm in such a state today. It's all more stress.

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One last bit of advice . EAT SOMETHING! You will be suffering from

hypoglaecemia now and that will be causing a lot of the symptoms you are now

suiffering.

EAT! That's an order :)

Mo

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> thanks for your reply. I don't have a husband.......... my kids are six and

eight and their dad just does not understand the hypo t thing (he's never, to my

knowledge been ill). We have always got on pretty well but between this illness

and my sons autism, it's ruined our relationship.

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