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[Guest guest]

I would be leery of a doctor that doesn't take insurance. What this usually

means

is that they have lost their insurance due to medical errors/ and or law

suits.

Roni

AthleticItaliano@... wrote:

Wondering if anyone on here has seen Dr. Blanchard? Found him

on the

Top Doc list and read some of his stuff in his books. He is local to me. I

know people from all over the country travel here to Boston to see him.

Before I spend the cash (as he does not take insurance) I wanted to see if any

one can give me info on him.

Thanks.

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actually the best docs, usually holistic, do not take insurance. they keep

their administrative costs low by doing this.

Gracia

I would be leery of a doctor that doesn't take insurance. What this usually

means

is that they have lost their insurance due to medical errors/ and or law

suits.

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it because of the very low insurance reimbursements that are going to providers.

we have seen our payments drop as much as 60% in some cases. it is all because

of the HMO's. even Medicare and Medicaid has significantly dropped their

reimbursement rates while at the same time expect us to do the same work for

peanuts. It is not cost effective for some providers to take insurance because

it takes an act of congress to get them to pay us and all the time spent trying

to get paid is wasting money.

so that is why many providers both holistic and allopathic do not take

insurance.

nancie

Re: Endo, Dr. Blanchard. Any info on him?

I would be leery of a doctor that doesn't take insurance. What this usually

means

is that they have lost their insurance due to medical errors/ and or law

suits.

Roni

AthleticItaliano@...<mailto:AthleticItaliano@...> wrote:

Wondering if anyone on here has seen Dr. Blanchard? Found him on the

Top Doc list and read some of his stuff in his books. He is local to me. I

know people from all over the country travel here to Boston to see him.

Before I spend the cash (as he does not take insurance) I wanted to see if any

one can give me info on him.

Thanks.

AJ

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[Guest guest]

You mean that they won't reimburse docs for the whole 10 seconds they spend

with us? Wow. How tragic. All that quality care......

Cw

-- Re: Endo, Dr. Blanchard. Any info on him?

it because of the very low insurance reimbursements that are going to

providers. we have seen our payments drop as much as 60% in some cases. it

is all because of the HMO's. even Medicare and Medicaid has significantly

dropped their reimbursement rates while at the same time expect us to do the

same work for peanuts. It is not cost effective for some providers to take

insurance because it takes an act of congress to get them to pay us and all

the time spent trying to get paid is wasting money.

so that is why many providers both holistic and allopathic do not take

insurance.

nancie

Re: Endo, Dr. Blanchard. Any info on him?

I would be leery of a doctor that doesn't take insurance. What this usually

means

is that they have lost their insurance due to medical errors/ and or law

suits.

Roni

AthleticItaliano@...<mailto:AthleticItaliano@...> wrote:

Wondering if anyone on here has seen Dr. Blanchard? Found him on the

Top Doc list and read some of his stuff in his books. He is local to me. I

know people from all over the country travel here to Boston to see him.

Before I spend the cash (as he does not take insurance) I wanted to see if

any

one can give me info on him.

Thanks.

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it is tragic for all the employees that get Laid off because of the drop in

reimbursements. think about it.

Re: Endo, Dr. Blanchard. Any info on him?

I would be leery of a doctor that doesn't take insurance. What this usually

means

is that they have lost their insurance due to medical errors/ and or law

suits.

Roni

AthleticItaliano@...<mailto:AthleticItaliano%40aol.com><mailto:AthleticItali\

ano@...<mailto:AthleticItaliano%40aol.com>> wrote:

Wondering if anyone on here has seen Dr. Blanchard? Found him on the

Top Doc list and read some of his stuff in his books. He is local to me. I

know people from all over the country travel here to Boston to see him.

Before I spend the cash (as he does not take insurance) I wanted to see if

any

one can give me info on him.

Thanks.

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I understand what you are saying . I recently received an

explanation of benefits from United Healthcare. The service I

received was for $182.36. United paid $11.68. Now either the

insurance companies know that these test to not cost the amount

providers are asking for or the providers are getting screwed. I

suspect the latter. I am not happy with what they charge but for the

insurance co. to only pay a small amount as this, doesn't seem right.

Oh yah, my portion was $1.30. I am grateful to have this insurance

but something is wrong somewhere.

Venizia

-- In hypothyroidism , " Nancie Barnett "

<deifspirit@...> wrote:

>

> it because of the very low insurance reimbursements that are going

to providers. we have seen our payments drop as much as 60% in some

cases. it is all because of the HMO's. even Medicare and Medicaid has

significantly dropped their reimbursement rates while at the same time

expect us to do the same work for peanuts. It is not cost effective

for some providers to take insurance because it takes an act of

congress to get them to pay us and all the time spent trying to get

paid is wasting money.

> so that is why many providers both holistic and allopathic do not

take insurance.

> nancie

> Re: Endo, Dr. Blanchard. Any

info on him?

>

>

> I would be leery of a doctor that doesn't take insurance. What

this usually means

> is that they have lost their insurance due to medical errors/ and

or law suits.

>

> Roni

>

> AthleticItaliano@...<mailto:AthleticItaliano@...> wrote:

> Wondering if anyone on here has seen Dr. Blanchard? Found

him on the

> Top Doc list and read some of his stuff in his books. He is local

to me. I

> know people from all over the country travel here to Boston to see

him.

> Before I spend the cash (as he does not take insurance) I wanted

to see if any

> one can give me info on him.

>

> Thanks.

>

> AJ

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[Guest guest]

I've had a similar thing happen too. I had a car wreck in June with my two

girls in the car and the medicaid has paid nothing to the hospital yet.

cw

-- Re: Endo, Dr. Blanchard. Any info on him?

I understand what you are saying . I recently received an

explanation of benefits from United Healthcare. The service I

received was for $182.36. United paid $11.68. Now either the

insurance companies know that these test to not cost the amount

providers are asking for or the providers are getting screwed. I

suspect the latter. I am not happy with what they charge but for the

insurance co. to only pay a small amount as this, doesn't seem right.

Oh yah, my portion was $1.30. I am grateful to have this insurance

but something is wrong somewhere.

Venizia

-- In hypothyroidism , " Nancie Barnett "

<deifspirit@...> wrote:

>

> it because of the very low insurance reimbursements that are going

to providers. we have seen our payments drop as much as 60% in some

cases. it is all because of the HMO's. even Medicare and Medicaid has

significantly dropped their reimbursement rates while at the same time

expect us to do the same work for peanuts. It is not cost effective

for some providers to take insurance because it takes an act of

congress to get them to pay us and all the time spent trying to get

paid is wasting money.

> so that is why many providers both holistic and allopathic do not

take insurance.

> nancie

> Re: Endo, Dr. Blanchard. Any

info on him?

>

>

> I would be leery of a doctor that doesn't take insurance. What

this usually means

> is that they have lost their insurance due to medical errors/ and

or law suits.

>

> Roni

>

> AthleticItaliano@...<mailto:AthleticItaliano@...> wrote:

> Wondering if anyone on here has seen Dr. Blanchard? Found

him on the

> Top Doc list and read some of his stuff in his books. He is local

to me. I

> know people from all over the country travel here to Boston to see

him.

> Before I spend the cash (as he does not take insurance) I wanted

to see if any

> one can give me info on him.

>

> Thanks.

>

> AJ

>

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I have friends who had to close their practices because they could no longer

afford to work and pay their employees, rent; utilities; practice related costs;

malpractice insurance [ which has increased for all specialties] etc because of

decreased insurance reimbursements.

Re: Endo, Dr. Blanchard. Any

info on him?

>

>

> I would be leery of a doctor that doesn't take insurance. What

this usually means

> is that they have lost their insurance due to medical errors/ and

or law suits.

>

> Roni

>

> AthleticItaliano@...<mailto:AthleticItaliano@...> wrote:

> Wondering if anyone on here has seen Dr. Blanchard? Found

him on the

> Top Doc list and read some of his stuff in his books. He is local

to me. I

> know people from all over the country travel here to Boston to see

him.

> Before I spend the cash (as he does not take insurance) I wanted

to see if any

> one can give me info on him.

>

> Thanks.

>

> AJ

>

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[Guest guest]

Nancie...I want to thank you for all the posts you make. I thought of

posting myself, regarding these issues, a few weeks ago. I didn't

because it seemed to me that trashing docs is a primary focus here

....at least with some of the most outspoken members of the group. I'm

not trying to defend incompetant physicians, or minimize the damage

patients suffer from medical error.

In the town I live in, one of the largest clinics is no longer accepting

patients with Medicare. One of my docs stopped accepting

Medicare years ago. He does a lot of work at the local free clinic

....it's not about money for him, but the time-consuming red tape.

Most of my docs are with a church run group. Because it's a non-profit,

it is still accepting Medicare and Oregon Health Plan...but one can't

help but wonder how much longer this can go on. The whole entire

health care system here is stressed to the breaking point.

Nancie Barnett wrote:

>I have friends who had to close their practices because they could no longer

afford to work and pay their employees, rent; utilities; practice related costs;

malpractice insurance [ which has increased for all specialties] etc because of

decreased insurance reimbursements.

> Re: Re: Endo, Dr. Blanchard. Any info on

him?

>

>

> I've had a similar thing happen too. I had a car wreck in June with my two

> girls in the car and the medicaid has paid nothing to the hospital yet.

> cw

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Thanks for your email. I would like to defend my position on Doctors. I

don't think they are evil, I think they are stuck in a system that really cares

about the bottom line. There is no question in this country we have a health

care crisis. I don't even call it health care any more, it is disease care.

Many doctors are tied to the insurance companies and drug companies. The

doctors in medical school do not spend very much time in the areas of nutrition,

preventatives, etc. Take cancer for example. What are the statistics? I in 2

for men, and 1 in 3 for women? Come on! Obviously, our doctors can't save us.

We have to save ourselves. Big Pharma runs the shows guys!! And insurance

isn't too far behind. We all need to wake up and smell the coffee. We need to

educate, and many on this board are very informed. Do I hate the establishment?

No, I hate that it is about the bottom line, when you are dealing with lives.

So, I have a great respect for doctors

in their ability to diagnose, but as far as truly helping people and curing

them? Their hands are tied.

Blessings,

seashell@... wrote:

Nancie...I want to thank you for all the posts you make. I thought of

posting myself, regarding these issues, a few weeks ago. I didn't

because it seemed to me that trashing docs is a primary focus here

....at least with some of the most outspoken members of the group. I'm

not trying to defend incompetant physicians, or minimize the damage

patients suffer from medical error.

In the town I live in, one of the largest clinics is no longer accepting

patients with Medicare. One of my docs stopped accepting

Medicare years ago. He does a lot of work at the local free clinic

....it's not about money for him, but the time-consuming red tape.

Most of my docs are with a church run group. Because it's a non-profit,

it is still accepting Medicare and Oregon Health Plan...but one can't

help but wonder how much longer this can go on. The whole entire

health care system here is stressed to the breaking point.

Nancie Barnett wrote:

>I have friends who had to close their practices because they could no longer

afford to work and pay their employees, rent; utilities; practice related costs;

malpractice insurance [ which has increased for all specialties] etc because of

decreased insurance reimbursements.

> Re: Re: Endo, Dr. Blanchard. Any info on

him?

>

>

> I've had a similar thing happen too. I had a car wreck in June with my two

> girls in the car and the medicaid has paid nothing to the hospital yet.

> cw

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi Seashell-

thanks!

as a nurse practitioner { and a patient] I have seen the crisis first hand. we

have go to make some changes in the country otherwise the entire system is going

collapse. then we will be really screwed.....

nancie

Re: Re: Endo, Dr. Blanchard. Any info on

him?

>

>

> I've had a similar thing happen too. I had a car wreck in June with my two

> girls in the car and the medicaid has paid nothing to the hospital yet.

> cw

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree that the insurance companies are doing a disservice not only to

patients, but to doctors as well. A good doctor is worth his/her weight in

gold, but a bad doctor can and does immesurable harm. I do not think

the people here, including me are against good doctors at all. I'm sure

most of us would want to find some of these good doctors.

On the other hand, many of the people on this list have be undertreated,

mistreated and untreated. We have suffered the results of these actions,

and I don't think it is very understanding of anyone to think our hobby is

doctor bashing.

Big Pharma bashing now, is another thing. I believe we have ALL been

harmed in one way or the other by the drug companies, who have shown

themselves to be interested in the almighty buck above all else.

Roni

seashell@... wrote:

Nancie...I want to thank you for all the posts you make. I thought of

posting myself, regarding these issues, a few weeks ago. I didn't

because it seemed to me that trashing docs is a primary focus here

....at least with some of the most outspoken members of the group. I'm

not trying to defend incompetant physicians, or minimize the damage

patients suffer from medical error.

In the town I live in, one of the largest clinics is no longer accepting

patients with Medicare. One of my docs stopped accepting

Medicare years ago. He does a lot of work at the local free clinic

....it's not about money for him, but the time-consuming red tape.

Most of my docs are with a church run group. Because it's a non-profit,

it is still accepting Medicare and Oregon Health Plan...but one can't

help but wonder how much longer this can go on. The whole entire

health care system here is stressed to the breaking point.

Nancie Barnett wrote:

>I have friends who had to close their practices because they could no longer

afford to work and pay their employees, rent; utilities; practice related costs;

malpractice insurance [ which has increased for all specialties] etc because of

decreased insurance reimbursements.

> Re: Re: Endo, Dr. Blanchard. Any info on

him?

>

>

> I've had a similar thing happen too. I had a car wreck in June with my two

> girls in the car and the medicaid has paid nothing to the hospital yet.

> cw

>

>

>

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I think we can all agree that our healthcare system isn't that good, but

what we talk about here is ill-informed docs who think they are informed. I

have been hypo my entire life, but wasn't dx'd until I was in my early 20's.

Our primary focus here is helping each other deal with being hypo, not doc

bashing. I really like my doc, it just took me many years to find him

because all the other doc were blaming all my symptoms on separate issues

rather than investigating further. All's they had to do was run simple

blood tests, but they didn't until I was literally falling apart. I blame

medical school for the way docs treat us. They have to learn somewhere.

The insurance they carry wouldn't be so high if they'd stop rx'ing making so

many mistakes. I'm not saying they should be perfect, but I think the drug

companies convince docs of the next wonder drug, so people use it and

something bad goes wrong. It's a vicious cycle. I think surgeons are

getting better than they use to, but people still go in for 1 procedure and

end up with another. Ok I'll stop.

crystal

-- Re: Re: Endo, Dr. Blanchard. Any info on

him?

Nancie...I want to thank you for all the posts you make. I thought of

posting myself, regarding these issues, a few weeks ago. I didn't

because it seemed to me that trashing docs is a primary focus here

.....at least with some of the most outspoken members of the group. I'm

not trying to defend incompetant physicians, or minimize the damage

patients suffer from medical error.

In the town I live in, one of the largest clinics is no longer accepting

patients with Medicare. One of my docs stopped accepting

Medicare years ago. He does a lot of work at the local free clinic

.....it's not about money for him, but the time-consuming red tape.

Most of my docs are with a church run group. Because it's a non-profit,

it is still accepting Medicare and Oregon Health Plan...but one can't

help but wonder how much longer this can go on. The whole entire

health care system here is stressed to the breaking point.

Nancie Barnett wrote:

>I have friends who had to close their practices because they could no

longer afford to work and pay their employees, rent; utilities; practice

related costs; malpractice insurance [ which has increased for all

specialties] etc because of decreased insurance reimbursements.

> Re: Re: Endo, Dr. Blanchard. Any info on

him?

>

>

> I've had a similar thing happen too. I had a car wreck in June with my two

> girls in the car and the medicaid has paid nothing to the hospital yet.

> cw

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with . I had to do my own research on nutrition,herbals,

preventative care. Doctors only talk about surgery and drugs. Drugs have side

effects. A lot of drugs are taken from herbs in the first place. For example, do

you know aspirin is taken from Willow Bark herb. There are so many other drugs

that are taken from herbs because pharmas cannot patent herbs so they take out

the main ingredient from herbs and create their own drug and add addional

chemicals to it which causes the side effects. Doctors also avoid the issue of

infections. A lot of diseases are caused by parasites,worms yeast,bacteria but

they always avoid this issue. Doctors do not deal with root causes of problems.

Read Hulda 's books. She has healed a lot of people with cancer. But the

medical community does not look into what she has to say.They have to think

about their bottom line.

and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote:

Hi, Thanks for your email. I would like to defend my position on

Doctors. I don't think they are evil, I think they are stuck in a system that

really cares about the bottom line. There is no question in this country we have

a health care crisis. I don't even call it health care any more, it is disease

care. Many doctors are tied to the insurance companies and drug companies. The

doctors in medical school do not spend very much time in the areas of nutrition,

preventatives, etc. Take cancer for example. What are the statistics? I in 2 for

men, and 1 in 3 for women? Come on! Obviously, our doctors can't save us. We

have to save ourselves. Big Pharma runs the shows guys!! And insurance isn't too

far behind. We all need to wake up and smell the coffee. We need to educate, and

many on this board are very informed. Do I hate the establishment? No, I hate

that it is about the bottom line, when you are dealing with lives. So, I have a

great respect for doctors

in their ability to diagnose, but as far as truly helping people and curing

them? Their hands are tied.

Blessings,

seashell@... wrote:

Nancie...I want to thank you for all the posts you make. I thought of

posting myself, regarding these issues, a few weeks ago. I didn't

because it seemed to me that trashing docs is a primary focus here

.....at least with some of the most outspoken members of the group. I'm

not trying to defend incompetant physicians, or minimize the damage

patients suffer from medical error.

In the town I live in, one of the largest clinics is no longer accepting

patients with Medicare. One of my docs stopped accepting

Medicare years ago. He does a lot of work at the local free clinic

.....it's not about money for him, but the time-consuming red tape.

Most of my docs are with a church run group. Because it's a non-profit,

it is still accepting Medicare and Oregon Health Plan...but one can't

help but wonder how much longer this can go on. The whole entire

health care system here is stressed to the breaking point.

Nancie Barnett wrote:

>I have friends who had to close their practices because they could no longer

afford to work and pay their employees, rent; utilities; practice related costs;

malpractice insurance [ which has increased for all specialties] etc because of

decreased insurance reimbursements.

> Re: Re: Endo, Dr. Blanchard. Any info on

him?

>

>

> I've had a similar thing happen too. I had a car wreck in June with my two

> girls in the car and the medicaid has paid nothing to the hospital yet.

> cw

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I hope the entire system does collapse. it's really rotten to the core.

I work at a group home where no one is getting proper medical care, but tax

payers are paying lots of $$$ for it. Shameful. the poorest " healthcare " lots

of money can buy.

Gracia

hi Seashell-

thanks!

as a nurse practitioner { and a patient] I have seen the crisis first hand. we

have go to make some changes in the country otherwise the entire system is going

collapse. then we will be really screwed.....

nancie

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Hi Nancie,

What are your thoughts on what it would take to make those changes?

What can we do to help bring about thowe changes?

Thank you again for the comments you make here.

Best thoughts,

Nancie Barnett wrote:

>hi Seashell-

>thanks!

>as a nurse practitioner { and a patient] I have seen the crisis first hand. we

have go to make some changes in the country otherwise the entire system is going

collapse. then we will be really screwed.....

>nancie

>

>

[Guest guest]

Roni,

What do you think is the reason that Big Pharma has this power?

Best thoughts,

Roni Molin wrote:

>I agree that the insurance companies are doing a disservice not only to

> patients, but to doctors as well. A good doctor is worth his/her weight in

> gold, but a bad doctor can and does immesurable harm. I do not think

> the people here, including me are against good doctors at all. I'm sure

> most of us would want to find some of these good doctors.

>

> On the other hand, many of the people on this list have be undertreated,

> mistreated and untreated. We have suffered the results of these actions,

> and I don't think it is very understanding of anyone to think our hobby is

> doctor bashing.

>

> Big Pharma bashing now, is another thing. I believe we have ALL been

> harmed in one way or the other by the drug companies, who have shown

> themselves to be interested in the almighty buck above all else.

>

> Roni

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Please understand, I'm not disagreeing with the points you've made.

My question would be...why does Big Pharma have so much power?

What can we do to change things? I understand the frustration and the

need to vent...I'm looking for constructive ways to deal with these

issues. It seems to me that just sitting around complaining about

the kind of health care we have doesn't really do anything to change

that system. What can we do to make it better?

Best thoughts,

and Irwin wrote:

>Hi, Thanks for your email. I would like to defend my position on Doctors. I

don't think they are evil, I think they are stuck in a system that really cares

about the bottom line. There is no question in this country we have a health

care crisis. I don't even call it health care any more, it is disease care.

Many doctors are tied to the insurance companies and drug companies. The

doctors in medical school do not spend very much time in the areas of nutrition,

preventatives, etc. Take cancer for example. What are the statistics? I in 2

for men, and 1 in 3 for women? Come on! Obviously, our doctors can't save us.

We have to save ourselves. Big Pharma runs the shows guys!! And insurance

isn't too far behind. We all need to wake up and smell the coffee. We need to

educate, and many on this board are very informed. Do I hate the establishment?

No, I hate that it is about the bottom line, when you are dealing with lives.

So, I have a great respect for doctors

> in their ability to diagnose, but as far as truly helping people and curing

them? Their hands are tied.

> Blessings,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Crystal,

How can we effect change in the way that medical schools educate docs

....what can we doi to change it?

Best thoughts,

Crystal wrote:

>I think we can all agree that our healthcare system isn't that good, but

>what we talk about here is ill-informed docs who think they are informed. I

>have been hypo my entire life, but wasn't dx'd until I was in my early 20's.

> Our primary focus here is helping each other deal with being hypo, not doc

>bashing. I really like my doc, it just took me many years to find him

>because all the other doc were blaming all my symptoms on separate issues

>rather than investigating further. All's they had to do was run simple

>blood tests, but they didn't until I was literally falling apart. I blame

>medical school for the way docs treat us. They have to learn somewhere.

>The insurance they carry wouldn't be so high if they'd stop rx'ing making so

>many mistakes. I'm not saying they should be perfect, but I think the drug

>companies convince docs of the next wonder drug, so people use it and

>something bad goes wrong. It's a vicious cycle. I think surgeons are

>getting better than they use to, but people still go in for 1 procedure and

>end up with another. Ok I'll stop.

>crystal

>

>

>

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This entire system was engineered by one of the Rockefellers, and the entire

motive

was to make more money. The whole system of insurance companies,

pharmaceutical

companies, the FDA, pharmacies, doctors and hospitals is a system over which

patients

have no control, except to hang onto their rights to refuse any particular

treatment or drug.

The fact that now, the doctors have been getting screwed too is good, because

there is a

chance that they will be able to break up this medical cartel that is going

on.

Roni

seashell@... wrote:

Roni,

What do you think is the reason that Big Pharma has this power?

Best thoughts,

Roni Molin wrote:

>I agree that the insurance companies are doing a disservice not only to

> patients, but to doctors as well. A good doctor is worth his/her weight in

> gold, but a bad doctor can and does immesurable harm. I do not think

> the people here, including me are against good doctors at all. I'm sure

> most of us would want to find some of these good doctors.

>

> On the other hand, many of the people on this list have be undertreated,

> mistreated and untreated. We have suffered the results of these actions,

> and I don't think it is very understanding of anyone to think our hobby is

> doctor bashing.

>

> Big Pharma bashing now, is another thing. I believe we have ALL been

> harmed in one way or the other by the drug companies, who have shown

> themselves to be interested in the almighty buck above all else.

>

> Roni

>

>

>

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In my opinion, very little. If all the patients in the US decided not toake ANY

medications

at all, THAT would have an effect. However, that cannot be done. There are

medications

that are essential for life in emergency situations and also ongoing

situtations, and we

could never stop that entirely. The attacks on the alternative meds, and even

the vitamin

companies is evidence of where Big Pharma is vulnerable. The problem is that

it all

can't be stopped suddenly. Another huge reason is that the insurance companies

have

been allowed to have full reign in pretty much whatever they want to sell

and/or say.

The wedge that seems to have developed is that the doctors are now getting

screwed.

Roni

seashell@... wrote:

Hi ,

Please understand, I'm not disagreeing with the points you've made.

My question would be...why does Big Pharma have so much power?

What can we do to change things? I understand the frustration and the

need to vent...I'm looking for constructive ways to deal with these

issues. It seems to me that just sitting around complaining about

the kind of health care we have doesn't really do anything to change

that system. What can we do to make it better?

Best thoughts,

and Irwin wrote:

>Hi, Thanks for your email. I would like to defend my position on Doctors. I

don't think they are evil, I think they are stuck in a system that really cares

about the bottom line. There is no question in this country we have a health

care crisis. I don't even call it health care any more, it is disease care. Many

doctors are tied to the insurance companies and drug companies. The doctors in

medical school do not spend very much time in the areas of nutrition,

preventatives, etc. Take cancer for example. What are the statistics? I in 2 for

men, and 1 in 3 for women? Come on! Obviously, our doctors can't save us. We

have to save ourselves. Big Pharma runs the shows guys!! And insurance isn't too

far behind. We all need to wake up and smell the coffee. We need to educate, and

many on this board are very informed. Do I hate the establishment? No, I hate

that it is about the bottom line, when you are dealing with lives. So, I have a

great respect for doctors

> in their ability to diagnose, but as far as truly helping people and curing

them? Their hands are tied.

> Blessings,

>

>

>

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The powers that create the medical school curriculums would have to be lobbied

in

congress to change what they are teaching. This, of course, would be a very

long and

tedious process, with no assurance of change.

The things we as individuals can do is keep using as many of the alternative

therapies

as possible, i.e.: policosanol insteat of statins; go to the complementary

doctors whenever

possible, i.e.: one of the doctors in my cardio group also uses alternative

methods like

hawthorn instead of warfarin. If more and more patients start rebelling

against the Big

Pharma products, maybe they'll start making them safer.

Roni

seashell@... wrote:

Hi Crystal,

How can we effect change in the way that medical schools educate docs

....what can we doi to change it?

Best thoughts,

Crystal wrote:

>I think we can all agree that our healthcare system isn't that good, but

>what we talk about here is ill-informed docs who think they are informed. I

>have been hypo my entire life, but wasn't dx'd until I was in my early 20's.

> Our primary focus here is helping each other deal with being hypo, not doc

>bashing. I really like my doc, it just took me many years to find him

>because all the other doc were blaming all my symptoms on separate issues

>rather than investigating further. All's they had to do was run simple

>blood tests, but they didn't until I was literally falling apart. I blame

>medical school for the way docs treat us. They have to learn somewhere.

>The insurance they carry wouldn't be so high if they'd stop rx'ing making so

>many mistakes. I'm not saying they should be perfect, but I think the drug

>companies convince docs of the next wonder drug, so people use it and

>something bad goes wrong. It's a vicious cycle. I think surgeons are

>getting better than they use to, but people still go in for 1 procedure and

>end up with another. Ok I'll stop.

>crystal

>

>

>

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congress doesn't control any medical school curriculums. the individual medical

schools are the ONES who set up their medical school coursework to meet the

standards of a nationalized curriculum standards that was independently set up.

the government has Nothing to do with it. change is happening. there are many

medical schools that have incorporated alternative medicine course work and

clinical training into their programs. for example: UCLA; UC San Francisco; UC

San Diego; Harvard; Columbia: Yale; Stanford: Colorado University of Health

Sciences; Arizona; new Mexico; Oregon; Virginia; Vermont; USC; Loma ;

Dartmouth; to name a few.

nancie

Re: Re: Endo, Dr. Blanchard. Any info on

him?

The powers that create the medical school curriculums would have to be lobbied

in

congress to change what they are teaching. This, of course, would be a very

long and

tedious process, with no assurance of change.

The things we as individuals can do is keep using as many of the alternative

therapies

as possible, i.e.: policosanol insteat of statins; go to the complementary

doctors whenever

possible, i.e.: one of the doctors in my cardio group also uses alternative

methods like

hawthorn instead of warfarin. If more and more patients start rebelling

against the Big

Pharma products, maybe they'll start making them safer.

Roni

seashell@...<mailto:seashell%40peak.org> wrote:

Hi Crystal,

How can we effect change in the way that medical schools educate docs

...what can we doi to change it?

Best thoughts,

Crystal wrote:

>I think we can all agree that our healthcare system isn't that good, but

>what we talk about here is ill-informed docs who think they are informed. I

>have been hypo my entire life, but wasn't dx'd until I was in my early 20's.

> Our primary focus here is helping each other deal with being hypo, not doc

>bashing. I really like my doc, it just took me many years to find him

>because all the other doc were blaming all my symptoms on separate issues

>rather than investigating further. All's they had to do was run simple

>blood tests, but they didn't until I was literally falling apart. I blame

>medical school for the way docs treat us. They have to learn somewhere.

>The insurance they carry wouldn't be so high if they'd stop rx'ing making so

>many mistakes. I'm not saying they should be perfect, but I think the drug

>companies convince docs of the next wonder drug, so people use it and

>something bad goes wrong. It's a vicious cycle. I think surgeons are

>getting better than they use to, but people still go in for 1 procedure and

>end up with another. Ok I'll stop.

>crystal

>

>

>

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The so called medical practice of Hulda is a perfect example of

total quackery. If you have been taken in by her bs you are poorly

informed indeed. She has never healed anyone of anything, but she has

slimed down a number of wallets. For the life of me I cannot understand

how any reasonably intelligent and even average educated person could

fall for such obvious crap.

>

> Re: Endo, Dr. Blanchard. Any info on him?

>

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> Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:27 pm (PST)

>

> I agree with . I had to do my own research on

> nutrition,herbals, preventative care. Doctors only talk about surgery

> and drugs. Drugs have side effects. A lot of drugs are taken from

> herbs in the first place. For example, do you know aspirin is taken

> from Willow Bark herb. There are so many other drugs that are taken

> from herbs because pharmas cannot patent herbs so they take out the

> main ingredient from herbs and create their own drug and add addional

> chemicals to it which causes the side effects. Doctors also avoid the

> issue of infections. A lot of diseases are caused by parasites,worms

> yeast,bacteria but they always avoid this issue. Doctors do not deal

> with root causes of problems. Read Hulda 's books. She has healed

> a lot of people with cancer. But the medical community does not look

> into what she has to say.They have to think about their bottom line.