RE: New member and wondering about armour

Report post · January 21, 2008

I described a model. I did not indicate agreement or disagreement.

> 1a.

>

> Re: New member and wondering about armour

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> Posted by: " and Irwin "

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> fritzalseth <fritzalseth>

>

> Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:50 pm (PST)

>

> Well, now at least we agree on one thing, . Everything was

> made by him. Albeit, I wouldn't call it natural, I would call it

> adulterated.

>

> Blessings,

>

> <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> wrote:

> According to the religious model God created everything. Including

> all

> the parts that go into making the test tube and anything produced in

> it. And including the human talent that puts it all together. So,

> it's

> all " natural " ...

>

> >

> > Re: New member and wondering about armour

> >

>

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> > Posted by: " Crystal " sweetnwright@...

> <mailto:sweetnwright%40cox.net>

> > <mailto:sweetnwright@...

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> > sweetenloe1 <sweetenloe1

> <sweetenloe1>>

> >

> > Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:34 pm (PST)

> >

> > Chuck, are you trying to undermine me? You know what we mean by

> natural.

> > We mean it came from a source that God created:) BTW I don't

> think test

> > tubes can do it like God did. Also, can you imagine man starting

> from

> > nothing God created to make a baby in a test tube? Pretty scary!

> > cw

>

Report post · January 21, 2008

Your post is amazing. Did you ever stop to think of the difficulties

and side effects of your " solution " ???

Back to planet Earth,

>

> Re: New member and wondering about armour

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> Posted by: " Bradin " ebradi3951@...

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> ebradi3951 <ebradi3951>

>

> Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:26 am (PST)

>

> Wouldn't it be amazing if we found everyone in the

> U.S. cheap sources for their meds from other countries

> and just sucked the current pharm. companies dry? Then

> new companies would be created and everyone would get

> really involved so they wouldn't charge way too much

> and get really corrupt.

>

> Okay, back to reality,

>

Report post · January 21, 2008

It wouldn't realy work since the more reputable off-shore and overseas

pharmacies get their meds from US pharmaceutical companies, so

basically they'd still be making booty off us.

Sam :-o

>

> Wouldn't it be amazing if we found everyone in the

> U.S. cheap sources for their meds from other countries

> and just sucked the current pharm. companies dry? Then

> new companies would be created and everyone would get

> really involved so they wouldn't charge way too much

> and get really corrupt.

>

> Okay, back to reality,

>

Report post · January 21, 2008

Thank you, that is if you aren't being sarcastic (hard

to tell via internet) ... I believe someone else

posted something along these lines a while ago too.

" Did I ever stop to think of " ...

1.) :The difficulties? " - Of course!?

and 2.) " The side effects of this solution? " - There

are side effects to everything, were you thinking of

specific things?

Happy to chat about it!

Peace,

--- <res075oh@...> wrote:

> Your post is amazing. Did you ever stop to think of

> the difficulties

> and side effects of your " solution " ???

>

> Back to planet Earth,

>

> >

> > Re: New member and wondering about armour

> >

>

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> >

> > Posted by: " Bradin "

> ebradi3951@...

> >

>

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> > ebradi3951

> <ebradi3951>

> >

> > Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:26 am (PST)

> >

> > Wouldn't it be amazing if we found everyone in the

> > U.S. cheap sources for their meds from other

> countries

> > and just sucked the current pharm. companies dry?

> Then

> > new companies would be created and everyone would

> get

> > really involved so they wouldn't charge way too

> much

> > and get really corrupt.

> >

> > Okay, back to reality,

> >

>

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Report post · January 21, 2008

There has to be somewhere though??? lol.

Peace,

--- Sam <k9gang@...> wrote:

> It wouldn't realy work since the more reputable

> off-shore and overseas

> pharmacies get their meds from US pharmaceutical

> companies, so

> basically they'd still be making booty off us.

>

> Sam :-o

>

> >

> > Wouldn't it be amazing if we found everyone in the

> > U.S. cheap sources for their meds from other

> countries

> > and just sucked the current pharm. companies dry?

> Then

> > new companies would be created and everyone would

> get

> > really involved so they wouldn't charge way too

> much

> > and get really corrupt.

> >

> > Okay, back to reality,

> >

>

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Report post · January 21, 2008

I'm still betting on Valhalla or the next vibrational realm.

Roni

Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote:

There has to be somewhere though??? lol.

Peace,

--- Sam <k9gang@...> wrote:

> It wouldn't realy work since the more reputable

> off-shore and overseas

> pharmacies get their meds from US pharmaceutical

> companies, so

> basically they'd still be making booty off us.

>

> Sam :-o

>

> >

> > Wouldn't it be amazing if we found everyone in the

> > U.S. cheap sources for their meds from other

> countries

> > and just sucked the current pharm. companies dry?

> Then

> > new companies would be created and everyone would

> get

> > really involved so they wouldn't charge way too

> much

> > and get really corrupt.

> >

> > Okay, back to reality,

> >

>

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Report post · January 21, 2008

We could all invest in, and run, our own med company and cut drug

prices by 95%. Like Wal-Mart, but without child labor. hahaha

???

Sam :-D

> > >

> > > Wouldn't it be amazing if we found everyone in the

> > > U.S. cheap sources for their meds from other

> > countries

> > > and just sucked the current pharm. companies dry?

> > Then

> > > new companies would be created and everyone would

> > get

> > > really involved so they wouldn't charge way too

> > much

> > > and get really corrupt.

> > >

> > > Okay, back to reality,

> > >

> >

>

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Report post · January 21, 2008

Don't knock child labor, it keeps them busy and out of trouble. LOL

Roni

Sam <k9gang@...> wrote:

We could all invest in, and run, our own med company and cut drug

prices by 95%. Like Wal-Mart, but without child labor. hahaha

???

Sam :-D

> > >

> > > Wouldn't it be amazing if we found everyone in the

> > > U.S. cheap sources for their meds from other

> > countries

> > > and just sucked the current pharm. companies dry?

> > Then

> > > new companies would be created and everyone would

> > get

> > > really involved so they wouldn't charge way too

> > much

> > > and get really corrupt.

> > >

> > > Okay, back to reality,

> > >

> >

>

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Report post · January 21, 2008

Okay, so I'm doing some research and I'm looking at a

site that says " many of the medications that

American's use are produced by german or swiss

companies " perhaps we could skip the middle men,

anybody in? ;-) (((joking tone)))

Peace,

--- Sam <k9gang@...> wrote:

> We could all invest in, and run, our own med company

> and cut drug

> prices by 95%. Like Wal-Mart, but without child

> labor. hahaha

>

> ???

>

> Sam :-D

>

> > > >

> > > > Wouldn't it be amazing if we found everyone in

> the

> > > > U.S. cheap sources for their meds from other

> > > countries

> > > > and just sucked the current pharm. companies

> dry?

> > > Then

> > > > new companies would be created and everyone

> would

> > > get

> > > > really involved so they wouldn't charge way

> too

> > > much

> > > > and get really corrupt.

> > > >

> > > > Okay, back to reality,

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Report post · January 21, 2008

Hahahahaha and then we can put German children to work, too.

Sam :-D

> > > > >

> > > > > Wouldn't it be amazing if we found everyone in

> > the

> > > > > U.S. cheap sources for their meds from other

> > > > countries

> > > > > and just sucked the current pharm. companies

> > dry?

> > > > Then

> > > > > new companies would be created and everyone

> > would

> > > > get

> > > > > really involved so they wouldn't charge way

> > too

> > > > much

> > > > > and get really corrupt.

> > > > >

> > > > > Okay, back to reality,

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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As long as they're off the streets and out of trouble. LOL

Roni

Sam <k9gang@...> wrote:

Hahahahaha and then we can put German children to work, too.

Sam :-D

> > > > >

> > > > > Wouldn't it be amazing if we found everyone in

> > the

> > > > > U.S. cheap sources for their meds from other

> > > > countries

> > > > > and just sucked the current pharm. companies

> > dry?

> > > > Then

> > > > > new companies would be created and everyone

> > would

> > > > get

> > > > > really involved so they wouldn't charge way

> > too

> > > > much

> > > > > and get really corrupt.

> > > > >

> > > > > Okay, back to reality,

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Report post · January 21, 2008

Roni-

Illegal, ay? Hhmmm, I'm not surprised. This really

sucks ... I'm going to research it more.

Peace,

--- Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote:

> I think I read that it was illegal to import drugs

> from another country. That way they

> can rape the American patients to their hearts

> content.

> We pay more for drugs than any other country in

> the world, because that is the way

> it is set up.

>

> Roni

>

> Bradin <ebradi3951@...> wrote:

> Wouldn't it be amazing if we found

> everyone in the

> U.S. cheap sources for their meds from other

> countries

> and just sucked the current pharm. companies dry?

> Then

> new companies would be created and everyone would

> get

> really involved so they wouldn't charge way too much

> and get really corrupt.

>

> Okay, back to reality,

>

> --- Nancie Barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote:

>

> > LOL that is for sure- sad but true....

> > nancie

> > Re: New member and

> > wondering about armour

> >

> > Crystal,

> >

> > You wrote:

> > > ...I know pig is not good for you, but their

> > thyroid produces

> > > the same hormones ours does....

> >

> > So do cows, sheep, and test tubes. T4 and T3 are

> > the exact same

> > bioidentical molecules, regardless of the source.

> > The big issue is the

> > proportion, which, to meet FDA standards, must be

> > carefully controlled

> > and stabilized to insure that you get the same

> > dosage in every grain you

> > take. They do that with chemicals and fast freeze

> > drying after starting

> > with pork thyroids only. Thus, Armour has the same

> > relation to pig

> > thyroid tissue as reconstituted fast frozen orange

> > juice does to fresh.

> > You may like that taste better than orange

> > " drink, " but it is still not

> > exactly " natural. "

> >

> > OTOH, there is nothing " natural " about obtaining

> > these hormones through

> > your stomach, regardless of the animal or

> > laboratory source, where you

> > have interactions with digestive juices, serum

> > binding albumin and

> > globulin, and whatever you may eat too close to

> > taking your meds. Plus,

> > the proportion of T4 to T3 in Armour is NOT the

> > same as what your own

> > gland produces and was somewhat arbitrarily chosen

> > because it is

> > relatively inexpensive to maintain.

> >

> > To be truly " natural, " you need regularly

> > recurring injections near or

> > in the blood flow of your thyroid gland of exactly

> > the same mix of

> > thyroxines, including T2, RT3, T1, etc. combined

> > with other human

> > molecules, that your gland produces, in exactly

> > the same amount that the

> > pituitary signals for at exactly the right time.

> >

> > Armour may work better for you, but that is not

> > because it is " natural. "

> >

> > Chuck

> >

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Report post · January 21, 2008

I was being sarcastic, MOL. It amazes me the objections I can almost

instantly see to your proposal that you don't seem to see at all.

For example, start with the fact that a lot of medications in other

countries and produced in the USA [as Sam said, I think]. What happens

to that supply when you put the producer out of business? And many

medications that are produced in other countries are licensed from those

same companies, who originally created them. And of those not licensed,

many were created by those same companies and basically stolen.

Take a look at the expense to bring JUST ONE new medicine to market [the

whole development procedure]. It can run in the hundreds of millions

PER DRUG. Who is going to put into risk that quantity of capital for

the cures we hope to someday have for cancer, heart disease, and better

cures for a host of other ills if you kill the only entities that are

capable?

So if you put the producers of our current medicines and the producers

of any new medicines coming down the pike out of business don't you

think that might cause a wee problem??? Who do you think is most likely

to step in to supply the world with medications if you put the US

producers out of business; maybe China???

As for this statement, " ...Then new companies would be created and

everyone would get really involved so they wouldn't charge way too much

and get really corrupt... " let me ask you if you have any experience

with human nature at all that suggests that might happen??? Who would

invest the many billions of dollars?

Basically I find your suggestion somewhat less than well thought out.

The only thing I can think if is that you must be from the government! [ggg]

>

> Re: New member and wondering about armour

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> Posted by: " Bradin " ebradi3951@...

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> ebradi3951 <ebradi3951>

>

> Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:05 pm (PST)

>

> Thank you, that is if you aren't being sarcastic (hard

> to tell via internet) ... I believe someone else

> posted something along these lines a while ago too.

> " Did I ever stop to think of " ...

> 1.) :The difficulties?

> " - Of course!?

> and 2.) " The side effects of this solution? " - There

> are side effects to everything, were you thinking of

> specific things?

>

> Happy to chat about it!

> Peace,

>

> --- <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> wrote:

>

> > Your post is amazing. Did you ever stop to think of

> > the difficulties

> > and side effects of your " solution " ???

> >

> > Back to planet Earth,

> >

> > >

> > > Re: New member and wondering about armour

> > >

> >

>

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> > >

> > > Posted by: " Bradin "

> > ebradi3951@... <mailto:ebradi3951%40>

> > >

> >

> <mailto:ebradi3951@...

>

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> > > ebradi3951

> > <ebradi3951

> <ebradi3951>>

> > >

> > > Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:26 am (PST)

> > >

> > > Wouldn't it be amazing if we found everyone in the

> > > U.S. cheap sources for their meds from other

> > countries

> > > and just sucked the current pharm. companies dry?

> > Then

> > > new companies would be created and everyone would

> > get

> > > really involved so they wouldn't charge way too

> > much

> > > and get really corrupt.

> > >

> > > Okay, back to reality,

> > >

Report post · January 21, 2008

By that estimate pharmaceutical companies make an utterly insane profit;

apparently many hundreds of percent. If I believed that then I would

have to be crazy to not beg, borrow, and steal all the money I could get

just to be able to invest in said companies. Since I don't buy it, I

haven't made any such investment. How about _your_ investments in

pharmaceuticals; are they paying 500% or so per year?

Oh, wait; I see the " ha-ha " . Funny joke, eh hahaha?

Seriously, though; when you hear someone b*tching about the grotesque

profits Enron or anyone else is making the real test of that belief is

spelled out by exactly how much that individual has himself invested in

said enterprise. Usually it's zero percent. As the used car salesman

said, " Money talks; bs walks... " [ggg]

>

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> Posted by: " Sam " k9gang@...

>

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> stealthwind <stealthwind>

>

> Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:14 pm (PST)

>

> We could all invest in, and run, our own med company and cut drug

> prices by 95%. Like Wal-Mart, but without child labor. hahaha

>

> ???

>

> Sam :-D

>

> > > >

> > > > Wouldn't it be amazing if we found everyone in the

> > > > U.S. cheap sources for their meds from other

> > > countries

> > > > and just sucked the current pharm. companies dry?

> > > Then

> > > > new companies would be created and everyone would

> > > get

> > > > really involved so they wouldn't charge way too

> > > much

> > > > and get really corrupt.

> > > >

> > > > Okay, back to reality,

> > > >

Report post · January 21, 2008

Silly boy...Apple...and other stuff...

>

> By that estimate pharmaceutical companies make an utterly insane

profit;

> apparently many hundreds of percent. If I believed that then I

would

> have to be crazy to not beg, borrow, and steal all the money I

could get

> just to be able to invest in said companies. Since I don't buy it,

I

> haven't made any such investment. How about _your_ investments in

> pharmaceuticals; are they paying 500% or so per year?

>

> Oh, wait; I see the " ha-ha " . Funny joke, eh hahaha?

>

> Seriously, though; when you hear someone b*tching about the

grotesque

> profits Enron or anyone else is making the real test of that belief

is

> spelled out by exactly how much that individual has himself

invested in

> said enterprise. Usually it's zero percent. As the used car

salesman

> said, " Money talks; bs walks... " [ggg]

>

> >

> > Re: New member and wondering about armour> >

> > Posted by: " Sam " k9gang@...

> > <mailto:k9gang@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20New%20member%20and%

20wondering%20about%20armour>

> > stealthwind <stealthwind>

> >

> > Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:14 pm (PST)

> >

> > We could all invest in, and run, our own med company and cut drug

> > prices by 95%. Like Wal-Mart, but without child labor. hahaha

> >

> > ???

> >

> > Sam :-D

Report post · January 21, 2008

, you wrote:

Take a look at the expense to bring JUST ONE new medicine to market [the

whole development procedure]. It can run in the hundreds of millions

PER DRUG. Who is going to put into risk that quantity of capital for

the cures we hope to someday have for cancer, heart disease, and better

cures for a host of other ills if you kill the only entities that are

capable?

What in the world leads you to believe that these companies (diverse and

spendthrifts that they are) have the slightest interest in curing ANYTHING?

That would not be in their financial interests. I would think a guy as savvy

as you in the ways of the world would understand that.

Roni

P.S. I would appreciate it if you would make up a dictionary of the

apbbreviations

that you use.

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