Re: Acute toothache - help please

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi there Bee,

>

> If no anti-biotic is as strong as garlic, clove and oregano, please

> tell me how to use them effectively! Because i have taken them all

> in large doses and my infection is just progessing by the hour.

> I didn't sleep all night, the pain is excrutiating, and i have a

> temperature, tingling and nausea.

>

> I don't want to mess my body up with Metronidazole if I can acheive

> the same thing with natural products, but right now it's not

working.

==>There are no quick fixes my dear, it does take time to heal

something like that. You shouldn't take too large of doses because

that is counterproductive to healing because then you are just

overwhelming your body. Just be consistent, see the dentist tomorrow

to double-check what is happening, and take aspirin if it helps the

pain, for now, or go to emergency.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> I just read your message that you had 9 abcesses at one time! That

> must have been agonizing. I have just one and it's the worst pain

> i've ever felt.

==>Is it worse than having a baby?

>

> Can I ask, what you did when you had these 9 abcesses? Did you

end up having the teeth pulled or root canalled, or left? What did

you do to get rid of the infection?

==>Eventually I got dentures because my gums were so shot. I had

lots of vitamin C, garlic tea and clove oil to get rid of the

infection.

Bee

>

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

I don't know if it's worse than having a baby, never having had one.

I've heard people say that having abcess/root canal is worse than

having a baby.

thanks

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi there,

>

> I don't know if it's worse than having a baby, never having had one.

> I've heard people say that having abcess/root canal is worse than

> having a baby.

==>I've had two babies, two miscarriages, many abcessed teeth, a dry

cell root canal (after my wisdom teeth were pulled), and the dry cell

root canal was highest on the list of those. The worst pain I had was

when an ovarian cyst broke - the pain was so bad it knocked me out cold.

==>Is the abcess in a previously drilled root canal?

Bee

[Guest guest]

, I've been following your posts and really feel for you -

especially having to get through a week-end. My 23 year old son

recently went through what you are and I've never seen him in such

agony. He wasn't able to work/sleep or put his mind to anything. Pain

killers barely touched it. After seeing him go through that I would

say that going through labor would be preferred - at least it's

producing a precious life at the end! My son ended up getting treated

for the infection and having a root canal - I'm not making any

judgement on his choices (I don't know what I would have done) - just

saying that was the outcome.

Hope you have relief soon,

Anita T.

> I don't know if it's worse than having a baby, never having had one.

> I've heard people say that having abcess/root canal is worse than

> having a baby.

[Guest guest]

Hello,

That makes me feel like less of a baby - usually i'm good with pain,

but this HURTS! I'm now taking paracetamaol/codeine, and I never take

drugs usually, not even caffeine. But I just can't stand the pain, I

tried hanging on but it just got worse and worse.

The tooth is one where a year ago i had a large mercury replaced with

composite. At the time the dentist said it was really deep, and we'd

just have to see if it settled down or not. The nerve did settle down

after a few months, but now this has come out of the blue.

Thanks for everything Bee, fingers crossed I can get an appointment

tomorrow!

[Guest guest]

Hi Anita,

Thanks for your support, it really means a lot to me. Tooth aches

like this are very annoying - because it's not like a flu that will

burn itself out. Abcesses are a sign of an underlying problem and

need treatment, meaning a dentist visit!

I'd love to save the tooth with a root canal, but I don't think I

want to risk any continued health problems that can arise from root

canals. I wonder if healthy people can handle it, but i have

CFS/Fibro so I think it might hinder my recovery.

I'm going towards the idea of just having it out, once and for all,

and just living with the gap (its 2nd from the back so isn't really

visible). I don't know if my other teeth will start shifting

though...

Anyway, I'm feeling pretty nervous about tomorrow! I've never had

an adult tooth pulled before. I'll try and be brave

Thanks again for your support

>

> , I've been following your posts and really feel for you -

> especially having to get through a week-end. My 23 year old son

> recently went through what you are and I've never seen him in such

> agony. He wasn't able to work/sleep or put his mind to anything.

Pain

> killers barely touched it. After seeing him go through that I

would

> say that going through labor would be preferred - at least it's

> producing a precious life at the end! My son ended up getting

treated

> for the infection and having a root canal - I'm not making any

> judgement on his choices (I don't know what I would have done) -

just

> saying that was the outcome.

> Hope you have relief soon,

> Anita T.

>

> > I don't know if it's worse than having a baby, never having had

one.

> > I've heard people say that having abcess/root canal is worse

than

> > having a baby.

>

[Guest guest]

I have had 4 abscessed teeth and each one developed after the mercury

amalgam filling fell out. It is the most unbearable pain I have ever

experienced. A suspected broken leg, a few bladder, stomach, and

intestinal cramps, and migraines have rated less painful. Two abscessed

teeth were treated with prescription antibiotics and then they were

pulled. Treating the infection is the most effective pain killer, and

that's what one dentist told me. The other 2 abscessed teeth were saved

by me primarily with raw garlic. I decided to try garlic because I had

read the ancient Egyptians did not pull teeth and I knew part of their

pyramid building salary was paid in raw garlic. I asked one dentist why

ancient Egyptians did not pull teeth and how they treated toothache

pain and they said they did not know. The Egyptians would not work

without the garlic pay. I had also read they were paid with a daily

ration of beer and that in a modern chemical analysis of the ancient

beer vats large quanities of ereythromyecin(enough to have a medicinal

effect-intestinal dysbiosis(?)) were found. These research findings are

why I tried garlic for abscess pain. *Notes: I have also read that

coffee makes abscess toothache pain worse and I found that to be true.

Two other frequently used methods to control toothache pain are to hold

colloidal silver or 3% hydrogen peroxide in the side of the mouth the

ache is on. Do not swallow the cs or h2o2. Abscessed tooth infections

can be emergencies. If you do not get quick relief you should seek

professional treatment. Autrey

>

> Hi there,

>

> I don't know if it's worse than having a baby, never having had one.

> I've heard people say that having abcess/root canal is worse than

> having a baby.

>

> thanks

>

>

[Guest guest]

Even with natural antibiotic treatment the results you get are dose

and frequency related even if what you are using covers(spectrum) the

type of infection you have. If I had of used 3 cloves of raw garlic

per day I doubt it would of been effective for the abscessed teeth. I

used 9-16 cloves of raw garlic per day divided into 3-4 doses. Same

thing for the oregeno oil, I used 3-4 oil capsules 3-4 times per day.

Autrey

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- In , " mary27389475 "

<mary27389475@...> wrote:

>

> Hi there Bee,

>

> If no anti-biotic is as strong as garlic, clove and oregano, please

> tell me how to use them effectively! Because i have taken them all

> in large doses and my infection is just progessing by the hour.

>

> I didn't sleep all night, the pain is excrutiating, and i have a

> temperature, tingling and nausea.

>

> I don't want to mess my body up with Metronidazole if I can acheive

> the same thing with natural products, but right now it's not

working.

>

> Any advice much appreciated

>

>

> > ==>Flagyl is an antifungal antibiotic, and it causes candida.

> When

> > you took it previously it suppressed your symptoms and now your

> body

> > is having to deal with it again. No antibiotic drugs are as

> strong

> > and helpful as the ones we've recommended, garlic, clove and

> oregano.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Wow how did you get that much down you?! I am in real trouble, the

pain is beyond words, and I can't take any more pain medication for

another 2 1/2 hours. I just swallowed down 2 large raw cloves of

garlic, chopped up in water, and 4 Oreganols. Follwed it up with some

soup. Feeling very queasy now! Very sick of garlic, concentrating on

not throwing up.

It's easy getting the Oreganol down me, but the garlic is another

story.

I have Kyolic liquid garlic extract, but I guess that's not so good.

Thanks for your help, much appreciated

[Guest guest]

Hi again,

, I forgot to ask - for the abscesses you treated with

garlic/natural stuff only, how many days did it take for them to go

away?

Thanks loads

[Guest guest]

I have found that putting a wet green tea bag in your mouth by the painful

area will be very helpful.

June

>From: " rpautrey2 " <rpautrey2@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: [ ] Re: Acute toothache - help please

>Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:56:38 -0000

>

>I have had 4 abscessed teeth and each one developed after the mercury

>amalgam filling fell out. It is the most unbearable pain I have ever

>experienced. A suspected broken leg, a few bladder, stomach, and

>intestinal cramps, and migraines have rated less painful. Two abscessed

>teeth were treated with prescription antibiotics and then they were

>pulled. Treating the infection is the most effective pain killer, and

>that's what one dentist told me. The other 2 abscessed teeth were saved

>by me primarily with raw garlic. I decided to try garlic because I had

>read the ancient Egyptians did not pull teeth and I knew part of their

>pyramid building salary was paid in raw garlic. I asked one dentist why

>ancient Egyptians did not pull teeth and how they treated toothache

>pain and they said they did not know. The Egyptians would not work

>without the garlic pay. I had also read they were paid with a daily

>ration of beer and that in a modern chemical analysis of the ancient

>beer vats large quanities of ereythromyecin(enough to have a medicinal

>effect-intestinal dysbiosis(?)) were found. These research findings are

>why I tried garlic for abscess pain. *Notes: I have also read that

>coffee makes abscess toothache pain worse and I found that to be true.

>Two other frequently used methods to control toothache pain are to hold

>colloidal silver or 3% hydrogen peroxide in the side of the mouth the

>ache is on. Do not swallow the cs or h2o2. Abscessed tooth infections

>can be emergencies. If you do not get quick relief you should seek

>professional treatment. Autrey

> >

> > Hi there,

> >

> > I don't know if it's worse than having a baby, never having had one.

> > I've heard people say that having abcess/root canal is worse than

> > having a baby.

> >

> > thanks

> >

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Thanks for the information about garlic. Your contributions are

always very good. It's also good to know how it was used in the

past, i.e. Egyptians. Very interesting. I like to rely more on what

was done before industrialization, except for blood letting of

course. lol! BTY I do not agree with using collodial silver - see

the File on it.

The best to you, Bee

> I have had 4 abscessed teeth and each one developed after the

mercury amalgam filling fell out. It is the most unbearable pain I

have ever experienced. A suspected broken leg, a few bladder,

stomach, and intestinal cramps, and migraines have rated less

painful. Two abscessed teeth were treated with prescription

antibiotics and then they were pulled. Treating the infection is the

most effective pain killer, and that's what one dentist told me. The

other 2 abscessed teeth were saved by me primarily with raw garlic. I

decided to try garlic because I had read the ancient Egyptians did

not pull teeth and I knew part of their pyramid building salary was

paid in raw garlic. I asked one dentist why ancient Egyptians did not

pull teeth and how they treated toothache pain and they said they did

not know. The Egyptians would not work without the garlic pay. I had

also read they were paid with a daily ration of beer and that in a

modern chemical analysis of the ancient beer vats large quanities of

ereythromyecin(enough to have a medicinal effect-intestinal dysbiosis

(?)) were found. <snip>

[Guest guest]

I got results/relief within a day. I was already prepared for an

abscess/toothache with my limited alternative medicene chest and I had

already decided I was never going to take another prescription

antibiotic again. I did not have to buy anything in addition to what I

already had. I was using research and theory when I effectively treated

my abscessed teeth with alternative remedies.

Autrey

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-- In , " mary27389475 " <mary27389475@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi again,

>

> , I forgot to ask - for the abscesses you treated with

> garlic/natural stuff only, how many days did it take for them to go

> away?

>

> Thanks loads

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing all of this . I went through

some really bad tooth pain several months ago and

caved and took antibiotics and pain killers.

I was very frustrated with the situation and wondered

how I'd deal with the next time that happened to me,

and the information you described makes sense.. I feel

less anxious about what I'll do if I get into that

situation again.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- rpautrey2 <rpautrey2@...> wrote:

> I got results/relief within a day. I was already

> prepared for an

> abscess/toothache with my limited alternative

> medicene chest and I had

> already decided I was never going to take another

> prescription

> antibiotic again. I did not have to buy anything in

> addition to what I

> already had. I was using research and theory when I

> effectively treated

> my abscessed teeth with alternative remedies.

> Autrey

It is a lot easier to act ourselves into new thinking than to think ourselves

into a new action.

My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

You are right Bee, I would never drink colloidal silver for an

infection unless it was an absolute emergency, there was a good

chance it would work, and nothing else was available. For an

abscessed tooth I would resort to a different alternative oral

antibiotic before I would even consider cs. I did post a warning

about not drinking it. *Also, I was mistaken about one of my

abscessed teeth. One actually happened after a large piece of a crown

and tooth broke off. A dentist told me the tooth had been decaying

inside the cap for years. Autrey

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-- In , " Bee Wilder "

<beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

>

> Dear ,

> Thanks for the information about garlic. Your contributions are

> always very good. It's also good to know how it was used in the

> past, i.e. Egyptians. Very interesting. I like to rely more on

what

> was done before industrialization, except for blood letting of

> course. lol! BTY I do not agree with using collodial silver - see

> the File on it.

>

> The best to you, Bee

>

>

> > I have had 4 abscessed teeth and each one developed after the

> mercury amalgam filling fell out. It is the most unbearable pain I

> have ever experienced.

[Guest guest]

,

I am so impressed with your natural healing story. I too am on the no more

antibiotics bandwagon! Especially after all the information I have gleaned

from Bee and others on natural alternatives. Let's start a movement!!!

Shirley

>From: " rpautrey2 " <rpautrey2@...>

>I got results/relief within a day. I was already prepared for an

>abscess/toothache with my limited alternative medicene chest and I had

>already decided I was never going to take another prescription

>antibiotic again. I did not have to buy anything in addition to what I

>already had. I was using research and theory when I effectively treated

>my abscessed teeth with alternative remedies.

> Autrey

[Guest guest]

>

> You are right Bee, I would never drink colloidal silver for an

> infection unless it was an absolute emergency, there was a good

> chance it would work, and nothing else was available. For an

> abscessed tooth I would resort to a different alternative oral

> antibiotic before I would even consider cs. I did post a warning

> about not drinking it. *Also, I was mistaken about one of my

> abscessed teeth. One actually happened after a large piece of a crown

and tooth broke off. A dentist told me the tooth had been decaying

inside the cap for years.

==>Thanks . I'm glad you clarified the collodial silver issue. I

sometimes read posts too quickly when I'm rushed.

Cheers, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks! Autrey

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>

> ,

>

> I am so impressed with your natural healing story. I too am on the

no more

> antibiotics bandwagon! Especially after all the information I have

gleaned

> from Bee and others on natural alternatives. Let's start a

movement!!!

>

> Shirley

>

>

> >From: " rpautrey2 " <rpautrey2@...>

>

> >I got results/relief within a day. I was already prepared for an

> >abscess/toothache with my limited alternative medicene chest and I

had

> >already decided I was never going to take another prescription

> >antibiotic again. I did not have to buy anything in addition to

what I

> >already had. I was using research and theory when I effectively

treated

> >my abscessed teeth with alternative remedies.

> > Autrey

>