Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 > > Hi, I woke up this morning with an acute, terrible toothache - it might be the beginning of an abcess. ==>If you have ever had toothaches in the past it could be re-tracing symptoms per Hering's Law of Cures - see my article for a complete understanding. > > I am now fasting and have taken: tri-salts to alkalise (calcium, > sodium, potassium), trace minerals, green food (powdered green > leaves), oreganol capsules, vitamin C/bioflav., and clove oil on the > tooth/gum. ==>Fasting is not a good idea - see my article " Supplements, Treatments, etc. Not Recommended " (in the files after all of the folders). Looks like you are trying to take too much at one time. I do not recommend green foods. Tri-salts are okay, but the whole Acidity/Alkalinity Theory is false - see the Folder on it in our files. ==>You've started the diet so recently so I believe you could be pushing your body too hard by already taking oreganol capsules too. > > It's really hurting and I want to bring down the infection and pain - > does anyone have any other suggestions on what I can do? ==>There is a reason your body has created this; the body creates inflammation to bring more blood to an area to heal, and the swelling is due to immune system defenses, like pus (which heals), which increase swelling, and it is also to immobolize the area so it can heal better. For bad pain get white willow bark at the health store and take according to instructions. Oil of oregano also cuts pain and heals - mix 3 drops in a tsp of coconut oil, soak a small piece of cotton with it and hold it in the area. Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Hello, Yes, i had a pain just like this, 2 years ago, in a different tooth. It was an abcess and I had to take antibiotics and have a deep filling on the tooth. This tooth with the pain now is another tooth. But - the pain has gone! It suddenly went a couple of hours after i wrote my original message. I don't think it's Hering's Law of Cure though - not yet, because I am still transitioning to the full diet (off junk food, caffeine, etc but coming off carbs). So I had a bowl of oatmeal with honey and butter, and some dried apricots last night, as my supper (the rest of the day was the candida diet). Woke up with the toothache - I wonder if I was just unlucky and the sugars fed the beginnings of an abcess. I reckon it went mainly because of the Oreganol. I'm not feeling much worse than usual from taking the Oreganol, so it doesn't seem to be causing much die-off yet. Just a bit of a headache. The tooth is obviously still hurting a bit, but the severe abcess-type pain that stopped me sleeping has gone. Just wanted to say thanks so much Bee, for helping me out like this and always responding to my messages. It means a lot to have your support, in fact I don't think I could do it without you! all the best xx > > > > Hi, I woke up this morning with an acute, terrible toothache - it > might be the beginning of an abcess. > > ==>If you have ever had toothaches in the past it could be re- tracing > symptoms per Hering's Law of Cures - see my article for a complete > understanding. > > > > I am now fasting and have taken: tri-salts to alkalise (calcium, > > sodium, potassium), trace minerals, green food (powdered green > > leaves), oreganol capsules, vitamin C/bioflav., and clove oil on the > > tooth/gum. > > ==>Fasting is not a good idea - see my article " Supplements, > Treatments, etc. Not Recommended " (in the files after all of the > folders). Looks like you are trying to take too much at one time. I do > not recommend green foods. Tri-salts are okay, but the whole > Acidity/Alkalinity Theory is false - see the Folder on it in our files. > > ==>You've started the diet so recently so I believe you could be > pushing your body too hard by already taking oreganol capsules too. > > > > It's really hurting and I want to bring down the infection and pain - > > does anyone have any other suggestions on what I can do? > > ==>There is a reason your body has created this; the body creates > inflammation to bring more blood to an area to heal, and the swelling > is due to immune system defenses, like pus (which heals), which > increase swelling, and it is also to immobolize the area so it can heal > better. For bad pain get white willow bark at the health store and > take according to instructions. Oil of oregano also cuts pain and > heals - mix 3 drops in a tsp of coconut oil, soak a small piece of > cotton with it and hold it in the area. > > Bee > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 > Just wanted to say thanks so much Bee, for helping me out like this and always responding to my messages. It means a lot to have your support, in fact I don't think I could do it without you! Dearest , you are so very welcome for the help and support. Hugs, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 This is what I have done for toothache(abscesses):1)Clove oil on tooth/gum;2)White Willow bark for pain/inflammation;3)Lots of raw garlic(9 & more cloves per day) for pain/abscess/infection;4)BHI Ear/Chamomilla homeopathic combination for tooth ache pain;5)Oregeno oil(large doses) w/ probiotics for infection/pain;6) North pole of a magnet on face over tooth pain area;7)Etc. All of these work and combinations often work even better. Autrey ------------------------------------- --------------------------------- > > Hi, > > I woke up this morning with an acute, terrible toothache - it might be > the beginning of an abcess. > > I am now fasting and have taken: tri-salts to alkalise (calcium, > sodium, potassium), trace minerals, green food (powdered green > leaves), oreganol capsules, vitamin C/bioflav., and clove oil on the > tooth/gum. > > It's really hurting and I want to bring down the infection and pain - > does anyone have any other suggestions on what I can do? > > Thanks a lot, > x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Hi there , Thanks for your advice. Unfortunately the abcess pain has now come back again - I am controlling it with oregano oil and clove oil. I'm going to try and find the White Willow or the homeopathic preparations in my local shop tomorrow. I'll take some probiotics too. Completely gone off food, but I had some chicken earlier. I really hope I can get through this and get the infection cleared. We don't appreciate having good teeth until one of them starts hurting! I'm finding it hard to sleep, & have an almighty headache to boot now. Aaargh! Monday I will try and see the dentist. , I wanted to ask - with your tooth abcess, did it go away in the end, or did you require dental treatment to sort the problem out? Because people are telling me if the dentist doesn't remove the tooth/do a root canal/remove the infection in some way, then I will have this underlying infection that will affect my health, even if the pain goes away. Thanks for listening! x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 > > Hi there , > > Thanks for your advice. Unfortunately the abcess pain has now come back again - I am controlling it with oregano oil and clove oil. > > I'm going to try and find the White Willow or the homeopathic > preparations in my local shop tomorrow. I'll take some probiotics > too. > > Completely gone off food, but I had some chicken earlier. ==>Hi . I'm not but I wanted to encourage you to have broths, soup, pureed foods and my egg drink while your tooth is hurting. Nutrients are so important for healing. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 > > Hi there , > > Thanks for your advice. Unfortunately the abcess pain has now come back again - I am controlling it with oregano oil and clove oil. > > I'm going to try and find the White Willow or the homeopathic > preparations in my local shop tomorrow. I'll take some probiotics > too. ==>, I thought of something else you can try. Try taking megadoses of vitamin C; start with 4,000 mg and take 1,000 mg every hour. It helps your body heal by boosting the immune system and it is a great antioxidant, just like the oils you are using. ==>Coconut oil and butter are also powerful antioxidants. ==>If you need something to numb the area buy Alum powder at the drug store and apply it with your wet finger, dabbing it on the area. Hang in there. Bee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Hello again, Quick update on my toothache - still there! This is not fun at all. The weird thing is, I now have a lot of pain in the upper right quadrant (the original problem was, and still is, pain in the lower right quadrant). This could be referred nerve pain. Still unable to eat, the pain is making me feel sick. I had to take some aspirin yesterday for the pain, and that was when I could eat the chicken. I also managed to sleep last night (think the aspirin helped). I have some chicken broth/chicken/veg soup in the fridge so I might eat that later ... Numbed all my gums with clove oil, still on the oreganol, taking cal/mag and lots vitamin C. Not well enough to go out today, so tomorrow I'll look for the homeopathy and willow supplements. I really hope this is some kind of healing reaction, and I can get through it better the other end. Bee, could an actual abcess form as a healing reaction (with pus and bacteria etc), or would a healing reaction be the " feeling " of an abcess without one actually being there? Thanks to all who are listening, it's helping me a lot having this support. Very best, x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 The abscessed tooth went away and I did not have the tooth pulled or need any other treatments. I believe my long-term relief was the raw garlic that I still eat. I am not using any other treatment for it. I have gone without the garlic for several days at a time and the pain has not returned. I do not know what would happen if I totally quit the garlic. Autrey >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Hi there , > > Thanks for your advice. Unfortunately the abcess pain has now come > back again - I am controlling it with oregano oil and clove oil. > > I'm going to try and find the White Willow or the homeopathic > preparations in my local shop tomorrow. I'll take some probiotics > too. > > Completely gone off food, but I had some chicken earlier. > > I really hope I can get through this and get the infection cleared. > We don't appreciate having good teeth until one of them starts > hurting! I'm finding it hard to sleep, & have an almighty headache > to boot now. Aaargh! > > Monday I will try and see the dentist. > > , I wanted to ask - with your tooth abcess, did it go away in > the end, or did you require dental treatment to sort the problem out? > Because people are telling me if the dentist doesn't remove the > tooth/do a root canal/remove the infection in some way, then I will > have this underlying infection that will affect my health, even if > the pain goes away. > > Thanks for listening! > > x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Hi, How did you eat the raw garlic - when I tried it in the past I found it really burned. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 > > Hello again, Quick update on my toothache - still there! This is not fun at all. The weird thing is, I now have a lot of pain in the upper right quadrant (the original problem was, and still is, pain in the lower right quadrant). This could be referred nerve pain. ==>Yes, it could be referred pain. > > Still unable to eat, the pain is making me feel sick. I had to take some aspirin yesterday for the pain, and that was when I could eat the chicken. I also managed to sleep last night (think the aspirin helped). ==>I'm glad you were able to sleep. > > I have some chicken broth/chicken/veg soup in the fridge so I might > eat that later ... Numbed all my gums with clove oil, still on the oreganol, taking cal/mag and lots vitamin C. Not well enough to go out today, so tomorrow I'll look for the homeopathy and willow supplements. > > I really hope this is some kind of healing reaction, and I can get > through it better the other end. Bee, could an actual abcess form as a healing reaction (with pus and bacteria etc), or would a healing > reaction be the " feeling " of an abcess without one actually being > there? ==>An abcess is a healing reaction which brings pus to the area which are immune system fighters, and bacteria is created within the body to clean up toxins. The swelling is because of more blood being brought to the area long with pus, and it also immoblizes the area so healing is more effective. Inflammation is caused by more healing blood being brought to the area. ==>You can get retracing symptoms of previous symptoms, illnesses, disease, injuries, that would be the " feeling " of an abcess without one actually being there. Retracing symptoms are a " copy of " or " re- experiencing " of original symptoms, which the body does in order to affect healing, but they wouldn't be the " actual " disease, etc. > > Thanks to all who are listening, it's helping me a lot having this > support. ==>Hang in there . Keep doing everything right and you will get through this. In the meantime do not brush nor floss, and do not irritate your gums in any way. Do rinse with 50/50 H202 and good filtered water several times a day. Allow time to heal and trust the body. ==>My daughter got a large nail through her foot several years ago. It went all the way through the foot between bones. After 1 day her foot swelled up and was angry and very red. My neighbor came over and boiled water for 30 minutes, cooled it, and then mixed it 50/50 with H202. She had us soak her foot in it twice a day, and she also wrapped her foot with wet cloths soaked in the solution and then on top of that wrapped it dry. Within 24 hours the swelling went down, it wasn't red anymore and it healed marvelously. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 > > The abscessed tooth went away and I did not have the tooth pulled or need any other treatments. I believe my long-term relief was the raw garlic that I still eat. I am not using any other treatment for it. I have gone without the garlic for several days at a time and the pain has not returned. I do not know what would happen if I totally quit the garlic. ==>, I agree with you totally about garlic. It is trully a miraculous food! I cured pneumonia in the 1970s by drinking garlic tea (with lemon), 4-5 cups per day for 3 days. That was after two different antibiotics didn't help. I like to sprinkle raw crushed garlic on my meats and veggies. Cheers, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Hi there, Thanks so much for your reply Bee. Pain back to the original tooth now, with no signs of letting up. I'll just keep doing what I'm doing. I will try and find somewhere that sells hydrogen peroxide tomorrow, hope I can, because I've never seen it for sale before here in the UK. In the meantime, I'll be swishing with sea salt-ed water. At this point, I'm willing to try anything! Today I tried oil pulling and zapping as well. Thanks all, x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 > > Hi, > > How did you eat the raw garlic - when I tried it in the past I found > it really burned. ==>, you could make the garlic tea recipe in my article, or in the Recipe Folder, which also has lemon juice in it - adding raw ginger to it would be even better. If you hold the tea in your mouth and swish it around the area that hurts, holding it there for up to 2 minutes it will help alot. You can do the same with H202 5/50 with water - hold it 2 minutes and then spit it out. ==>You can also chew on cilantro in between rinsing and apply clove oil, etc. It's very healing too. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Hello, Thanks Bee! I will try that garlic tea and the cilantro. Does anyone know the upper limit on dosage of Oregano oil, for use as a natural antibiotic? I'm taking " Oreganol " capsules with are mixed with olive oil - I don't know how much pure oregano oil is in each. Anyway, currently I'm taking 2 capsules x4 per day for this abcess. Maybe I should increase it. Thanks all, x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Hi , Have you tried opening one of those capsules and applying it directly to the absessed tooth/gum area? just an idea, jackie >I'm taking " Oreganol " capsules with are mixed > with olive oil - I don't know how much pure oregano oil is in each. > Anyway, currently I'm taking 2 capsules x4 per day for this abcess. > Maybe I should increase it. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Hi there Jackie, Thanks for the suggestion - yes, I've been thinking of that - I'm not sure if it will burn my gums though... x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Take a small amount of water, milk, yogurt, etc. while you are chewing and the garlic will not burn. Autrey >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Hi, > > How did you eat the raw garlic - when I tried it in the past I found > it really burned. > > Thanks! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Thanks , So I can just pop a clove of garlic in my mouth and chew on it, with a bit of water in there too? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Hi, Now I've just chopped up a clove of garlic really finely, and swallowed it down with 1/2 glass warm water. Also i'm doing a garlic/salt water swish. It's hurting so much now, I'm just waiting for Monday when I can get to the Dentist, and probably have the tooth taken out. Apologies for hogging the board with my tooth problem - thanks to everyone for listening and help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 > > Hi there, Thanks so much for your reply Bee. > > Pain back to the original tooth now, with no signs of letting up. ==>I feel for you . At one time during my candida cure I had 9 abcesses at one time. > > I'll just keep doing what I'm doing. I will try and find somewhere > that sells hydrogen peroxide tomorrow, hope I can, because I've never seen it for sale before here in the UK. In the meantime, I'll be swishing with sea salt-ed water. ==>Regular 3% drug-store type H202 is fine to use, just do not swallow it. > > At this point, I'm willing to try anything! Today I tried oil pulling and zapping as well. ==>You are doing everything you can. Hopefully it turns around soon! I'll send you some healing vibes. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Hello again, This is turning into a complete nightmare. The painkillers aren't working, and my biological dentist is not answering her emergency phone no. I've tried all I could naturally, and it's not working. So it looks like i might have to take some nasty antibiotics. I had this on a different tooth 2 1/2 years ago and i had to take Metronidazole (also known as Flaygl) 200mg 3 times a day, for 7 days. These drug is toxic & nasty, but it kills anaerobic bacteria. I'm so disappointed i have to mess up my system with these drugs, but it looks like there'll be no choice. Bee, do you have any thoughts on how I can minimise the damage? thanks a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 > > Hello again, > > This is turning into a complete nightmare. The painkillers aren't > working, and my biological dentist is not answering her emergency > phone no. > > I've tried all I could naturally, and it's not working. So it looks like i might have to take some nasty antibiotics. I had this on a different tooth 2 1/2 years ago and i had to take Metronidazole (also known as Flaygl) 200mg 3 times a day, for 7 days. ==>Flagyl is an antifungal antibiotic, and it causes candida. When you took it previously it suppressed your symptoms and now your body is having to deal with it again. No antibiotic drugs are as strong and helpful as the ones we've recommended, garlic, clove and oregano. There are articles on them in the Antifungal Folder with research that reports how they were more effective than antibiotics. > > These drug is toxic & nasty, but it kills anaerobic bacteria. I'm so disappointed i have to mess up my system with these drugs, but it > looks like there'll be no choice. Bee, do you have any thoughts on how I can minimise the damage? ==>If you decide you must take them take probiotics as well; but take them at different times than you take the antibiotic. Take 2-3 billion units 4 times a day 2 hours after or before you take the antibiotics. However, taking probiotics will also make your die-off symptoms worse, so be prepared. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Hi there Bee, If no anti-biotic is as strong as garlic, clove and oregano, please tell me how to use them effectively! Because i have taken them all in large doses and my infection is just progessing by the hour. I didn't sleep all night, the pain is excrutiating, and i have a temperature, tingling and nausea. I don't want to mess my body up with Metronidazole if I can acheive the same thing with natural products, but right now it's not working. Any advice much appreciated > ==>Flagyl is an antifungal antibiotic, and it causes candida. When > you took it previously it suppressed your symptoms and now your body > is having to deal with it again. No antibiotic drugs are as strong > and helpful as the ones we've recommended, garlic, clove and oregano. > There are articles on them in the Antifungal Folder with research > that reports how they were more effective than antibiotics. > > > > These drug is toxic & nasty, but it kills anaerobic bacteria. I'm > so disappointed i have to mess up my system with these drugs, but it > > looks like there'll be no choice. Bee, do you have any thoughts on > how I can minimise the damage? > > ==>If you decide you must take them take probiotics as well; but take > them at different times than you take the antibiotic. Take 2-3 > billion units 4 times a day 2 hours after or before you take the > antibiotics. However, taking probiotics will also make your die- off > symptoms worse, so be prepared. > > Luv, Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Hi Bee, I just read your message that you had 9 abcesses at one time! That must have been agonizing. I have just one and it's the worst pain i've ever felt. Can I ask, what you did when you had these 9 abcesses? Did you end up having the teeth pulled or root canalled, or left? What did you do to get rid of the infection? Thank you for the vibes! x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.