Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 > I'd think the study is actually saying this: in times relatively long > ago ( " during the period from 1959 to 1985 " ), patients with pituitary > gland disorders who couldn't make enough of their own hGH were treated > with hGH. The followup showed they *did* have more cancer long-term > (from 1995-2000), in those cancers which were followed. The researchers in the study however said of their results, " We have no evidence as to whether growth hormone in modern dosage regimens is associated with an increased risk of colorectal cancer " . Anyway, we've now been using the approach for more than 20 years, and anti-aging doctors aren't finding problems. They do state that the manner of dosing is important. I'm not sure about the study you quoted, but customarily, HGH injections were given once a week, sometimes every two weeks. However, HGH is normally released in minute amounts about four to six times daily, so the weekly dose then was actually 28 doses given all at once. People doing injections are getting away from that. Also, although many anti-aging doctors still do use HGH injections, most now use amino acids secretagogues. They indicate that a lot of people do not respond to injected HGH well but do respond to inducing their own levels to improve. regards, Duncan Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Duncan, Do you have studies showing that the hgh precursors actually raised igf-1 levels? I have pituitary tumor and my doctor says they are all hype??? Frannie Re: philisophical > I'd think the study is actually saying this: in times relatively long > ago ( " during the period from 1959 to 1985 " ), patients with pituitary > gland disorders who couldn't make enough of their own hGH were treated > with hGH. The followup showed they *did* have more cancer long-term > (from 1995-2000), in those cancers which were followed. The researchers in the study however said of their results, " We have no evidence as to whether growth hormone in modern dosage regimens is associated with an increased risk of colorectal cancer " . Anyway, we've now been using the approach for more than 20 years, and anti-aging doctors aren't finding problems. They do state that the manner of dosing is important. I'm not sure about the study you quoted, but customarily, HGH injections were given once a week, sometimes every two weeks. However, HGH is normally released in minute amounts about four to six times daily, so the weekly dose then was actually 28 doses given all at once. People doing injections are getting away from that. Also, although many anti-aging doctors still do use HGH injections, most now use amino acids secretagogues. They indicate that a lot of people do not respond to injected HGH well but do respond to inducing their own levels to improve. regards, Duncan Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 > Duncan, > Do you have studies showing that the hgh precursors actually raised > igf-1 levels? I have pituitary tumor and my doctor says they are all > hype??? Frannie Hi Frannie, Your doctor is uninformed, that's all. Most doctors in the anti-aging arena are aware of and now employ SomaLife gHP as a reliable alternative to HGH injections. The endocrinologists and general practitioners would do well to catch up to the science rather than simply pronounce on a whole class of supplements from a position of no data. Even the first study, from 1981 (the groundbreaking Isidori Study) meticulously lays out the actual IGF-1 increase derived from just two amino acids. Since then, the formula and methods have been refined. http://members.shaw.ca/patriciagilbert/ISIDORI_study.html That being said, I'm not confident we can increase pituitary function in people who have a pituitary tumour. You might need HGH shots instead of amino acids. You can try and see; if your pituitary fiunctions at all, over time it will probably heal and increase its output as do the rest of the glands and organs. And THAT being said, have you heard of cesium chloride? Cancer cells soak it up, then primarily die, although some revert to normal function. Several of my clients have tried it; all are still alive. The stuff's cheap and worth a try. regards, Duncan Crow (copyright waived) duncancrow/ --- live and help live... --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Duncan, Thank you for this information. Frannie O Re: Re: philisophical > Duncan, > Do you have studies showing that the hgh precursors actually raised > igf-1 levels? I have pituitary tumor and my doctor says they are all > hype??? Frannie Hi Frannie, Your doctor is uninformed, that's all. Most doctors in the anti-aging arena are aware of and now employ SomaLife gHP as a reliable alternative to HGH injections. The endocrinologists and general practitioners would do well to catch up to the science rather than simply pronounce on a whole class of supplements from a position of no data. Even the first study, from 1981 (the groundbreaking Isidori Study) meticulously lays out the actual IGF-1 increase derived from just two amino acids. Since then, the formula and methods have been refined. http://members.shaw.ca/patriciagilbert/ISIDORI_study.html<http://members.shaw.ca\ /patriciagilbert/ISIDORI_study.html> That being said, I'm not confident we can increase pituitary function in people who have a pituitary tumour. You might need HGH shots instead of amino acids. You can try and see; if your pituitary fiunctions at all, over time it will probably heal and increase its output as do the rest of the glands and organs. And THAT being said, have you heard of cesium chloride? Cancer cells soak it up, then primarily die, although some revert to normal function. Several of my clients have tried it; all are still alive. The stuff's cheap and worth a try. regards, Duncan Crow (copyright waived) duncancrow/<duncancrow/> --- live and help live... --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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