Udo's Fats That Kill book, and oil, head's up

[Guest guest]

,

Have you heard of Enig PhD? One of the top oils researchers in

the world, if not THE top. The article " The Oiling Of America " adnher

coconut oil series comes to mind...

>

> I have the HUGE

> book " fats that heal and fats that kill " by Udo

> Eramus. I actually have never heard of Johanna Budwig.

> But I heal a lot about Udo.

According to Enig PhD, Udo's book and his ideas concerning fats

are NOT great at all !!!

And I quote ...........

<snip>

Fats That Kill, Fats That Heal is one of the few books for the lay

public on the subject of fats and oils. It has sold well and is

quoted everywhere. While there is some good information in the book,

the facts about fats are so intertwined with error as to present a

tangled skein, likely to do more harm than good.

The author has worked as a salesman for several companies

specializing in cold-pressed vegetable oils, which explains his bias

towards polyunsaturated oils and against saturated animal fats and

tropical oils, bias that is highly tinged with error. For example,

Erasmus states that 16-carbon saturated palmitic acid is the major

fatty acid in coconut oil, leaving the impression that coconut oil

has no particular health benefits; whereas coconut oil contains very

little palmitic acid but is especially rich in beneficial lauric

acid. His stand on butter is particularly egregious. He declares that

butter is a neutral fat, useful for frying but not necessary, and

dangerous in excess-wrong on every count. Butter is not neutral, but

a highly beneficial source of fat soluble vitamins, anti-carcinogenic

substances and antimicrobial fatty acids, hence a very necessary

component of the American diet.

All saturated fats are not equal. One needs to use the adjective

short(C12) chain saturated fats. Even respected journal articles fail

to make this important distinction.www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/

</snip>

Just a head's up....

Also, the reason I don't recommend Udo's Oil is precisely because

it's balanced. Most of us are omega-6 toxic and omega-3 deficient. A

balanced oil doesn't alleviate the problem as well as flax oil or

fish oil does alone and I wouldn't recommend any supplement product

that deliberately adds more omega-6 to our diet.

regards,

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

Thanks Duncan.. I had to read his book for my Alive

Applied Nutrition course. I did question a few of the

things in there. For example, he writes that hemp

seeds and hemp seed oil are one of the most balanced

of the omega sources, downside: you may fail drug

testing. How does this work when the seeds do not

contain THC? He also says certain oils should be used

for cooking: olive oil... where every other place I

have read says not to use olive oil, but to use

tropical oils and saffflower oil or butter *sigh* I am

sure not everyone is right about everything. There are

still a lot of things we don't know. I don't actually

know Enig, but I will definatly look her up. I

also don't use Udo's oil for the same reason you

mentioned. I drink cod liver oil *yuck*

*8-)

--- Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Have you heard of Enig PhD? One of the top oils

> researchers in

> the world, if not THE top. The article " The Oiling

> Of America " adnher

> coconut oil series comes to mind...

> >

> > I have the HUGE

> > book " fats that heal and fats that kill " by Udo

> > Eramus. I actually have never heard of Johanna

> Budwig.

> > But I heal a lot about Udo.

>

> According to Enig PhD, Udo's book and his ideas

> concerning fats

> are NOT great at all !!!

> And I quote ...........

>

> <snip>

> Fats That Kill, Fats That Heal is one of the few

> books for the lay

> public on the subject of fats and oils. It has sold

> well and is

> quoted everywhere. While there is some good

> information in the book,

> the facts about fats are so intertwined with error

> as to present a

> tangled skein, likely to do more harm than good.

>

> The author has worked as a salesman for several

> companies

> specializing in cold-pressed vegetable oils, which

> explains his bias

> towards polyunsaturated oils and against saturated

> animal fats and

> tropical oils, bias that is highly tinged with

> error. For example,

> Erasmus states that 16-carbon saturated palmitic

> acid is the major

> fatty acid in coconut oil, leaving the impression

> that coconut oil

> has no particular health benefits; whereas coconut

> oil contains very

> little palmitic acid but is especially rich in

> beneficial lauric

> acid. His stand on butter is particularly egregious.

> He declares that

> butter is a neutral fat, useful for frying but not

> necessary, and

> dangerous in excess-wrong on every count. Butter is

> not neutral, but

> a highly beneficial source of fat soluble vitamins,

> anti-carcinogenic

> substances and antimicrobial fatty acids, hence a

> very necessary

> component of the American diet.

>

> All saturated fats are not equal. One needs to use

> the adjective

> short(C12) chain saturated fats. Even respected

> journal articles fail

> to make this important

> distinction.www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/

>

> </snip>

>

> Just a head's up....

>

> Also, the reason I don't recommend Udo's Oil is

> precisely because

> it's balanced. Most of us are omega-6 toxic and

> omega-3 deficient. A

> balanced oil doesn't alleviate the problem as well

> as flax oil or

> fish oil does alone and I wouldn't recommend any

> supplement product

> that deliberately adds more omega-6 to our diet.

>

> regards,

>

> Duncan Crow

>

[Guest guest]

> Thanks Duncan.. I had to read his book for my Alive

> Applied Nutrition course. I did question a few of the

> things in there. For example, he writes that hemp

> seeds and hemp seed oil are one of the most balanced

> of the omega sources...

Ouch, the fact they use Udo's book in nutrition courses brings Enig's

" more harm than good " quote to mind. Oh, well, no book is perfect I

suppose. At least you know now.

When hemp oil was the new kid on the block as the " best food oil " , I

looked into it. It's 95% polyunsaturated, which means that it is one

of the strongest contributors to lipid peroxidation of all the food

oils so far. 1073 by calculation on the lipid peroxidation

spreadsheet, while flax oil is 1035 and fish oil, the highest, is

2173. That makes it just a supplement as opposed to being a food oil

that people can tolerate in high amounts without inducing oxidative

stress, a precursor to degenerative disease.

Conversely, coconut oil has a lipid peroxidation index of 32, butter

of 142. These are better tolerated in large amounts because they

don't oxidize and spread free radicals to a significant degree. Olive

oil is 363.

> (hemp oil) downside: you may fail drug

> testing. How does this work when the seeds do not

> contain THC?

Perhaps it's just a guess.

> He also says certain oils should be used

> for cooking: olive oil... where every other place I

> have read says not to use olive oil, but to use

> tropical oils and saffflower oil or butter *sigh* I am

> sure not everyone is right about everything. There are

> still a lot of things we don't know. I don't actually

> know Enig, but I will definatly look her up. I

> also don't use Udo's oil for the same reason you

> mentioned. I drink cod liver oil *yuck*

>

Olive oil is the safest pourable oil at 363. Udo's balanced oil is

934, a full third more damaging than soy oil. You can do the

calculation on safflower oil using the spreadsheet. All you need to

plug in is the exact fatty acids in the oil to get the exact result

in black and white. A high number means more free radical damage

results from the oil. The spreadsheet is on my coconut oil page in

the references section.

> *8-)

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

Duncan wrote:

" Also, the reason I don't recommend Udo's Oil is precisely because

it's balanced. Most of us are omega-6 toxic and omega-3 deficient. A

balanced oil doesn't alleviate the problem as well as flax oil or

fish oil does alone and I wouldn't recommend any supplement product

that deliberately adds more omega-6 to our diet. " "

Hi Duncan,

Can you pls. explain the differences in Omega 6 & Omega 3.

Thanks