RE: So confused - which came first - hypothyroid or candidiasis!

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Dear ,

We all know it's hard. Believe me.  Very

often I whish it would have been gone overnight....just to wake up the morning

after and...like magic...... no longer suffering. I'm

hypothyroid too. I've learned from s books that when you suffer

from a toxicity crisis every single gland of you body is affected and can't

any longer work properly. Maybe this is the reason of your and mine thyroid

malfunction. I strongly suggest you to read these books.

Simona

So confused

- which came first - hypothyroid or candidiasis!

I was diagnosed by my GP as being hypothyroid and i

have anti-thyroid anitbodies. I also have a chronic candida infection. Have

done a lot of reading about it but there are 2 main contradictory

opinions. The first says that hypothyroid can lead to candidiasis and the

second says that candidiasis can lead to hypothyroidism. I have no reason to

have candidiasis other than the underactive thyroid. I have never taken

antibiotics etc etc. I really don't know which to get treated first. Will the

candidiasis go when i start getting proper thyroid treatment or vice versa,

will the thyroid go when i get rid of the candidiasis? I have been on an

anti-candida diet for the last 2 months! I have lost loads of weight, have had

severe diarrhoe with the acidophilus and the candida is still there as strong

as ever. I really don't know what to do next! I'm getting increasingly more and

more fed up with this and i have to say that i've never been as unhappy as i am

right now.

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So are you taking thyroid hormones? did the hypothyroid come first or the candida?

I have done one liver flush already and plan to do more - i have both of s's books! Simona.LIGI@... wrote:

Dear ,

We all know it's hard. Believe me. Very often I whish it would have been gone overnight....just to wake up the morning after and...like magic...... no longer suffering. I'm hypothyroid too. I've learned from s books that when you suffer from a toxicity crisis every single gland of you body is affected and can't any longer work properly. Maybe this is the reason of your and mine thyroid malfunction. I strongly suggest you to read these books.

Simona

-----Original Message-----From: B B [mailto:sweetiebaby20012003@...] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 12:03 PMcandidiasis Subject: So confused - which came first - hypothyroid or candidiasis!

I was diagnosed by my GP as being hypothyroid and i have anti-thyroid anitbodies. I also have a chronic candida infection. Have done a lot of reading about it but there are 2 main contradictory opinions. The first says that hypothyroid can lead to candidiasis and the second says that candidiasis can lead to hypothyroidism. I have no reason to have candidiasis other than the underactive thyroid. I have never taken antibiotics etc etc. I really don't know which to get treated first. Will the candidiasis go when i start getting proper thyroid treatment or vice versa, will the thyroid go when i get rid of the candidiasis? I have been on an anti-candida diet for the last 2 months! I have lost loads of weight, have had severe diarrhoe with the acidophilus and the candida is still there as strong as ever. I really don't know what to do next! I'm getting increasingly more and

more fed up with this and i have to say that i've never been as unhappy as i am right now.

Any opinions welcome,

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No. I'm not taking any. The hypothyroid

came first. How many stones did you get?

So confused

- which came first - hypothyroid or candidiasis!

I was diagnosed by my GP as being hypothyroid and i

have anti-thyroid anitbodies. I also have a chronic candida infection. Have

done a lot of reading about it but there are 2 main contradictory

opinions. The first says that hypothyroid can lead to candidiasis and the second

says that candidiasis can lead to hypothyroidism. I have no reason to have

candidiasis other than the underactive thyroid. I have never taken antibiotics

etc etc. I really don't know which to get treated first. Will the candidiasis

go when i start getting proper thyroid treatment or vice versa, will the

thyroid go when i get rid of the candidiasis? I have been on an anti-candida

diet for the last 2 months! I have lost loads of weight, have had severe

diarrhoe with the acidophilus and the candida is still there as strong as ever.

I really don't know what to do next! I'm getting increasingly ! more and more

fed up with this and i have to say that i've never been as unhappy as i am

right now.

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I got about 300 stones on my flush. I was well pleased with myself. i didn't even have apple juice beforehand as i was worried it would set off the candida. So you are not taking anything for the hypothyroid? Hasn't your doctor given you the hormones? are you hoping to cure it with diet and cleansing now?

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No. I'm not taking any. The hypothyroid came first. How many stones did you get?

-----Original Message-----From: B B [mailto:sweetiebaby20012003@...] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 12:43 PMcandidiasis Subject: RE: So confused - which came first - hypothyroid or candidiasis!

So are you taking thyroid hormones? did the hypothyroid come first or the candida?

I have done one liver flush already and plan to do more - i have both of s's books! Simona.LIGI@... wrote:

Dear ,

We all know it's hard. Believe me. Very often I whish it would have been gone overnight....just to wake up the morning after and...like magic...... no longer suffering. I'm hypothyroid too. I've learned from s books that when you suffer from a toxicity crisis every single gland of you body is affected and can't any longer work properly. Maybe this is the reason of your and mine thyroid malfunction. I strongly suggest you to read these books.

Simona

-----Original Message-----From: B B [mailto:sweetiebaby20012003@...] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 12:03 PMcandidiasis Subject: So confused - which came first - hypothyroid or candidiasis!

I was diagnosed by my GP as being hypothyroid and i have anti-thyroid anitbodies. I also have a chronic candida infection. Have done a lot of reading about it but there are 2 main contradictory opinions. The first says that hypothyroid can lead to candidiasis and the second says that candidiasis can lead to hypothyroidism. I have no reason to have candidiasis other than the underactive thyroid. I have never taken antibiotics etc etc. I really don't know which to get treated first. Will the candidiasis go when i start getting proper thyroid treatment or vice versa, will the thyroid go when i get rid of the candidiasis? I have been on an anti-candida diet for the last 2 months! I have lost loads of weight, have had severe diarrhoe with the acidophilus and the candida is still there as strong as ever. I really don't know what to do next! I'm getting increasingly ! more and

more fed up with this and i have to say that i've never been as unhappy as i am right now.

Any opinions welcome,

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Yes ,

I'm on the path of cleansing. I've

been for 4 years on bird control pills.

Simona

So confused

- which came first - hypothyroid or candidiasis!

I was diagnosed by my GP as being hypothyroid and i

have anti-thyroid anitbodies. I also have a chronic candida infection. Have

done a lot of reading about it but there are 2 main contradictory opinions.

The first says that hypothyroid can lead to candidiasis and the second says

that candidiasis can lead to hypothyroidism. I have no reason to have

candidiasis other than the underactive thyroid. I have never taken antibiotics

etc etc. I really don't know which to get treated first. Will the candidiasis

go when i start getting proper thyroid treatment or vice versa, will the

thyroid go when i get rid of the candidiasis? I have been on an anti-candida

diet for the last 2 months! I have lost loads of weight, have had severe

diarrhoe with the acidophilus and the candida is still there as strong as ever.

I really don't know what to do next! I'm getting increasingly ! ! more and more

fed up with this and i have to say that i've never been as unhappy as i am right

now.

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have you seen an improvement in your thyroid and candida symptoms yet? Are you being treated by a naturopath or doing this alone?

Simona.LIGI@... wrote:

Yes ,

I'm on the path of cleansing. I've been for 4 years on bird control pills.

Simona

-----Original Message-----From: B B [mailto:sweetiebaby20012003@...] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 3:11 PMcandidiasis Subject: RE: So confused - which came first - hypothyroid or candidiasis!

I got about 300 stones on my flush. I was well pleased with myself. i didn't even have apple juice beforehand as i was worried it would set off the candida. So you are not taking anything for the hypothyroid? Hasn't your doctor given you the hormones? are you hoping to cure it with diet and cleansing now?

Simona.LIGI@... wrote:

No. I'm not taking any. The hypothyroid came first. How many stones did you get?

-----Original Message-----From: B B [mailto:sweetiebaby20012003@...] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 12:43 PMcandidiasis Subject: RE: So confused - which came first - hypothyroid or candidiasis!

So are you taking thyroid hormones? did the hypothyroid come first or the candida?

I have done one liver flush already and plan to do more - i have both of s's books! Simona.LIGI@... wrote:

Dear ,

We all know it's hard. Believe me. Very often I whish it would have been gone overnight....just to wake up the morning after and...like magic...... no longer suffering. I'm hypothyroid too. I've learned from s books that when you suffer from a toxicity crisis every single gland of you body is affected and can't any longer work properly. Maybe this is the reason of your and mine thyroid malfunction. I strongly suggest you to read these books.

Simona

-----Original Message-----From: B B [mailto:sweetiebaby20012003@...] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 12:03 PMcandidiasis Subject: So confused - which came first - hypothyroid or candidiasis!

I was diagnosed by my GP as being hypothyroid and i have anti-thyroid anitbodies. I also have a chronic candida infection. Have done a lot of reading about it but there are 2 main contradictory opinions. The first says that hypothyroid can lead to candidiasis and the second says that candidiasis can lead to hypothyroidism. I have no reason to have candidiasis other than the underactive thyroid. I have never taken antibiotics etc etc. I really don't know which to get treated first. Will the candidiasis go when i start getting proper thyroid treatment or vice versa, will the thyroid go when i get rid of the candidiasis? I have been on an anti-candida diet for the last 2 months! I have lost loads of weight, have had severe diarrhoe with the acidophilus and the candida is still there as strong as ever. I really don't know what to do next! I'm getting increasingly ! ! more

and more fed up with this and i have to say that i've never been as unhappy as i am right now.

Any opinions welcome,

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Dear ,

Definitely download s Moritz, The Key to Health and

Rejuvenation ASAP from 1stbooks.com (under Health and Fitness). You

will get an immediate boost from sheer hope and enthusiasm from

starting to read it. I am also hypothyroid and have systemic

candidiasis. To restate Simona's idea, maybe neither theory you

mentioned is fully correct. Maybe both hypothyroidism and candida

are caused by a third thing: stress on the symptom from physical

(e.g. diet), emotional, and spiritual imbalance/toxicity.

I am just starting out on s' path, though I've tried many

other things for my health. My worst problem is chronic fatigue

syndrome and widespread food allergies, and by the way, I got some

interesting information recently from a CBC test: My MCV is too

high, which indicates B12 anemia. I was taking plenty of B12 in a

pill, but apparently my system isn't able to use it that way, and

now I am taking it sublingually and will ask a new naturopath I'm

seeing next week about the possibility of shots. I mention this

because the symptoms of B12 anemia are similar to those of

hypothyroidism. But you have Hashi's, and I don't. There's a

wonderful support group for that called thyroiditis, though it's

more medically oriented than curezone. If interested, tell them I

sent you.

As for working with a naturopath or not, it's a personal choice as

to whether you're the self-help type or not. Personally, I feel

that my health is so complicated at this point and my morale often

low that it would be supportive to me to have a doc on my side.

(Also, I need her help in finding stuff on the local market, since I

don't speak/read Hebrew.) It sounds like in your case you would

also benefit from working with somebody.

My advice re which will get better when and how is to leave that to

the wisdom of your body. It will take care of what needs to be done

most urgently first if you set up the conditions for healing.

And don't forget to be happy! You sound like me, trying to figure

this thing out in your head. But you need to not focus on it too

much and be as happy as you can because that will help your body to

heal.

A warm welcome to you.

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> Dear ,

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> We all know it's hard. Believe me. Very often I whish it would

have been gone overnight....just to wake up the morning after

and...like magic...... no longer suffering. I'm hypothyroid too.

I've learned from s books that when you suffer from a toxicity

crisis every single gland of you body is affected and can't any

longer work properly. Maybe this is the reason of your and mine

thyroid malfunction. I strongly suggest you to read these books.

>

> Simona

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> So confused - which came first -

hypothyroid or candidiasis!

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> I was diagnosed by my GP as being hypothyroid and i have anti-

thyroid anitbodies. I also have a chronic candida infection. Have

done a lot of reading about it but there are 2 main contradictory

opinions. The first says that hypothyroid can lead to candidiasis

and the second says that candidiasis can lead to hypothyroidism. I

have no reason to have candidiasis other than the underactive

thyroid. I have never taken antibiotics etc etc. I really don't know

which to get treated first. Will the candidiasis go when i start

getting proper thyroid treatment or vice versa, will the thyroid go

when i get rid of the candidiasis? I have been on an anti-candida

diet for the last 2 months! I have lost loads of weight, have had

severe diarrhoe with the acidophilus and the candida is still there

as strong as ever. I really don't know what to do next! I'm getting

increasingly ! ! more and more fed up with this and i have to say

that i've never been as unhappy as i am right now.

>

>

>

>

>

> Any opinions welcome,

>

>

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>

>

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I was diagnosed by my GP as being hypothyroid and i have anti-thyroid anitbodies. I also have a chronic candida infection. Have done a lot of reading about it but there are 2 main contradictory opinions. The first says that hypothyroid can lead to candidiasis and the second says that candidiasis can lead to hypothyroidism. I have no reason to have candidiasis other than the underactive thyroid. I have never taken antibiotics etc etc. I really don't know which to get treated first. Will the candidiasis go when i start getting proper thyroid treatment or vice versa, will the thyroid go when i get rid of the candidiasis? I have been on an anti-candida diet for the last 2 months! I have lost loads of weight, have had severe diarrhoe with the acidophilus and the candida is still there as strong as ever. I really don't know what to do next! I'm getting increasingly more and more fed up with this and i have to say that i've never been as unhappy as i am right now.Any opinions welcome,

Hi

Perhpas if you read the article by Dr. Vickery about the causes and treatment, you would get some insights:

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/amino/vickery_demons.htm

The demons he is referring to, all of nutritional origin, are the causes of this complex health challenge.

Quote:

Chiropractic and Osteopathy have had special treatments that were intimately connected with the body. They also had the heaviest burdens because to contribute to the patient’s lasting health and maintain it they had to explain more than any other profession why these events ( distortions, subluxations, and the physiology and pathology) were occurring. The cry is always for more research. The research is already accomplished.

Medicine did not always bother with finding the true cause but is very adept at remedies that cover up symptoms. In the treatment of fibromyalgia it is largely NSAIDS. The medical profession does as much or even more harm than the chiropractor because they are contributing to the already present cartilage degeneration and presenting more poisons for an already overwhelmed liver.

I for one have chosen the route of bringing this knowledge to those that are ready (in all of the professions) and directly to the suffering people. This route is growing steadily and is a source of great satisfaction. My entire life has more than adequately prepared me for it. While I would readily accept help in submitting these facts and findings to scientific channels, as yet no research director seems interested but perhaps when the doctors that we have taught have seasoned a champion will appear.

There is a great gulf between doctors like myself and the orthodox practitioner with whom I cannot really converse. I illustrate it thusly: The gulf is thirty feet wide and the chiropractor is a ten foot jumper. Who among you is ready to become a forty foot jumper?

[Guest guest]

My ND was not aware of the cleansing

procedure. He asked me if I can borrow him s' books. My

conventional doctor gave me BC pills. I no longer wanted to take chemical

drugs. I'm preparing to my first liver flush. I'm trying to set a

colonic first. I got some improvements from stopping the intake of natural

supplements.

Simona

So confused

- which came first - hypothyroid or candidiasis!

I was diagnosed by my GP as being hypothyroid and i

have anti-thyroid anitbodies. I also have a chronic candida infection. Have

done a lot of reading about it but there are 2 main contradictory

opinions. The first says that hypothyroid can lead to candidiasis and the

second says that candidiasis can lead to hypothyroidism. I have no reason to

have candidiasis other than the underactive thyroid. I have never taken

antibiotics etc etc. I really don't know which to get treated first. Will the

candidiasis go when i start getting proper thyroid treatment or vice versa,

will the thyroid go when i get rid of the candidiasis? I have been on an

anti-candida diet for the last 2 months! I have lost loads of weight, have had

severe diarrhoe with the acidophilus and the candida is still there as strong

as ever. I really don't know what to do next! I'm getting increasingly ! ! !

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unhappy as i am right now.

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