Re: Re: diet opinions - ketones

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> Posted by: " Masterjohn " chrismasterjohn@...

> Date: Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:04 pm (PDT)

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> Duncan,

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> > Well, we know the high-insulin thing is beyond dispute.

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> I agree that too much carb is bad for insulin and clearly the best way

> to increase insulin sensitivity with respect to macronutrient

> composition, all things being equal, is to eat a low-carb high-fat

> diet and the best way to destroy it is to eat a low-fat high-carb

> diet, but there are other factors like meal spacing and exercise and

> so on. I think that if people spaces their meals properly and didn't

> eat carbs at every meal, but only ate one meal a day, or maybe less,

> high-carb, and got sufficient exercise, that a moderate intake of

> starches would not be a problem. Your thoughts?

I agree on meal spacing and moderate starch intake, generally

following Brad King's books on it.

I've had four fat wars articles online from 2001 until the fellas

blog went down; they're still available today in a google search

on ( " fat wars " " duncan crow " )

While many people drive HGH growth hormone low and hold it there,

causing metabolic syndrome if chronic, we can also keep HGH at a

higher level, with diet and meal spacing.

HGH is still elevated a bit in the morning, so you don't want to

suppress it with a carb breakfast, you want protein so the HGH

levels can remain high until about noon.

You can take carbs in the afternoon, but if you work out its best

to be carb-light at and after the workout.

For a bedtime snack you wouldn't choose carbs because again

they'd suppress the growth hormone release that would normally

occur soon after you fall asleep.

People taking SomaLife gHP before bed to max out HGH release to

youthful levels wouldn't take a bedtime snack at all because it

would interfere with the ratio and dose of the amino acids.

> > Technically true; the body will make carbs out of protein for the

> > brain cells if it needs to, and protein contains more trace elements

> > and amino acids carbs as a bonus. This makes it a good energy

> > storage vehicle generally.

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> During fasting and during carb-restriction, the brain uses ketones,

> its most efficient fuel. It was long-ago thought that our primary

> fuel during fasting was protein or taking glycogenic amino acids from

> protein, and thus the expectation that we would only last a couple

> weeks fasting. The observation that we lived much longer than this

> while fasting poked a whole in this theory, and it was discovered that

> fasting induces ketosis, and that ketones, despite their reputation of

> " incomplete " burning of fuel, greatly increase the energy efficiency

> of the brain and heart. See Ketones: Metabolism's Ugly Duckling in

> Nutriton Reviews, I think 2003.

>

> Chris

Efficiency improvement by burning ketones is a good concept to

know, thanks.

But it applies to fasting and carb restriction; when we're

talking about systemic ketosis, I found out from the body

builders that it takes a bit of work to get there. They

manipulate the ratio of fat to carb intake for a few days, then

coast on that diet for a few days while burning lots of fat, then

they change the diet again to stop the ketosis and plump up

skin/faschia tone quickly to look " cut " yet not dehydrated before

an event.

Ketosis is a useful and harmless natural function that induces

weight loss very quickly, but many people confuse ketosis with

the harmful one, ketoacidosis, which does sound similar. I think

about 1/2 the population should know how to do it on demand.

They'd be not only healthier but smarter for it too, apparently

Duncan