Re: Hello from Michigan ( fungi's link to cancer)

[Guest guest]

Or worse, developed cancer as a result of things she was taking for

candida, like antifungals.

g

> Thanks for the tips. I've thought for over a year about what

lead me to

> this condition. At first I thought I may have had CGD, a disease

that

> prevents your immune system from fighting certain organisms

(including

> fungi). After more and more research I believe that either I've

had this

> since birth (in some degree) and/or my lifestyle led me here. I

am

> absolutely certain my Grandmother who died of urinary cancer had

candida

> problems most of her life.

>

> At this point I'm not sure what else to ponder. Any

suggestions? I imagine

> as my healing process goes along I may get hints at an underlying

condition.

>

>

> > Re: Hello from Michigan

> >

> > While you are on difulcan, you might want to think some about

what

> > caused your candida overgrowth in the first place, difulcan

will not

> > help with those issues. diet of course plays a role, but so

does the

> > overall condidtion of your body. many people on this list are

> > restoring their health by cleansing all the organs of

eliminatin,

> > liver, colon and kidneys- you can read about this at

> > www.curezone.com. keep an open mind, and don't rule anything

out.

> > when I first figured out I had a yeast problem, I wouldn't let

myself

> > see what the underlying causes were... it made things take

longer

> > than they could have.

> >

> > g

[Guest guest]

I do believe antifungals can seriously harm the body. I did not

always have this opinion, was on sporonox for six months, and had

took other courses of antifungals in my youth. I would not ever do

it again.

I don't know anything about her particular story, its just something

that popped into mind. scientists look for correlations, but just

finding a correlation doesn't mean anything when you think about it.

it could be that " unhealthy " people get candida for the same reason

they get cancer, a weak, toxic unhealthy body (a pretty obvious

correlation when you think about it). its not that one causes the

other.

> > Thanks for the tips. I've thought for over a year about what

> lead me to

> > this condition. At first I thought I may have had CGD, a

disease

> that

> > prevents your immune system from fighting certain organisms

> (including

> > fungi). After more and more research I believe that either

I've

> had this

> > since birth (in some degree) and/or my lifestyle led me

here. I

> am

> > absolutely certain my Grandmother who died of urinary cancer

had

> candida

> > problems most of her life.

> >

> > At this point I'm not sure what else to ponder. Any

> suggestions? I imagine

> > as my healing process goes along I may get hints at an

underlying

> condition.

> >

> >

> > > Re: Hello from Michigan

> > >

> > > While you are on difulcan, you might want to think some

about

> what

> > > caused your candida overgrowth in the first place, difulcan

> will not

> > > help with those issues. diet of course plays a role, but

so

> does the

> > > overall condidtion of your body. many people on this list

are

> > > restoring their health by cleansing all the organs of

> eliminatin,

> > > liver, colon and kidneys- you can read about this at

> > > www.curezone.com. keep an open mind, and don't rule

anything

> out.

> > > when I first figured out I had a yeast problem, I wouldn't

let

> myself

> > > see what the underlying causes were... it made things take

> longer

> > > than they could have.

> > >

> > > g

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

now that is some deep irony. the cancer effect I'm referring too is

slightly different too. It may not so much be the drug itself as the

body's reaction to the death of the fungus. if you believe like i

believe that the body is using the fungus to help the body survive in

less than ideal circumstances, then killing the fungus is actually

fighting against the body, which could result in the body (or certain

parts of the body) taking more drastic measures, such as cancer.

I admit this is not something you read about much, and certainly there

are no studies about it. Its just something that s Moritz has

mentioned in his forum on more than one occaison. Since I have a

great deal of respect for his opinion, I do give it credence.

g

> In doing some research for my company's product line, I stumbled across

> California's Proposition 65 which lists Carcinogens that must be

labeld as such on

> products. Some of the anti-fungal drugs were on that list.

[Guest guest]

I would probably include some of the natural antifungals in that

catagory as well... for me, it would depend on whether the substance

assists the body with detoxification as opposed to just killing

organisms in the body like candida. there is a difference. things

like pau d'arco tea have the former effect.

> > > Thanks for the tips. I've thought for over a year about

what

> > lead me to

> > > this condition. At first I thought I may have had CGD, a

> disease

> > that

> > > prevents your immune system from fighting certain

organisms

> > (including

> > > fungi). After more and more research I believe that

either

> I've

> > had this

> > > since birth (in some degree) and/or my lifestyle led me

> here. I

> > am

> > > absolutely certain my Grandmother who died of urinary

cancer

> had

> > candida

> > > problems most of her life.

> > >

> > > At this point I'm not sure what else to ponder. Any

> > suggestions? I imagine

> > > as my healing process goes along I may get hints at an

> underlying

> > condition.

> > >

> > >

> > > > Re: Hello from Michigan

> > > >

> > > > While you are on difulcan, you might want to think some

> about

> > what

> > > > caused your candida overgrowth in the first place,

difulcan

> > will not

> > > > help with those issues. diet of course plays a role,

but

> so

> > does the

> > > > overall condidtion of your body. many people on this

list

> are

> > > > restoring their health by cleansing all the organs of

> > eliminatin,

> > > > liver, colon and kidneys- you can read about this at

> > > > www.curezone.com. keep an open mind, and don't rule

> anything

> > out.

> > > > when I first figured out I had a yeast problem, I

wouldn't

> let

> > myself

> > > > see what the underlying causes were... it made things

take

> > longer

> > > > than they could have.

> > > >

> > > > g

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

This is an old thread but I believe in the theory that fungi could

cause cancer. If you get infected with fungi, which you have to be

immune compromise to get infected in the first place unless it is

stachy. A significant fungal infection produces toxins in your body,

mycotoxins, and they could produce cancer just like any of the other

environmental or ingested toxins that are believed to cause cancer

like pesticides, etc.

> Hi! I don't know if anyone else has heard of it, but Doug Kauffman

wrote a book called The Fungus Link. He also wrote a book (the name

escapes me right now) linking Candida and other fungi to cancer. He

believes fungi are the cause of cancer

>