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The only advice I could add( I was also on Levoxyl 50 and 75) is just

hang in there. I had to work HARD( diet and workout diligently) for

about 1 solid month before seeing any results but once my body got

the clue, it started coming off.

P

> I don't know if anyone ever comes in here. But, I wanted some

advise

> from people going through the same thing! I am struggling very

badly

> w/ my weight. I am only 5'2 & weight 150. I was diagnosed w/

> hypothyroidism last week. I am happy that I know why my weight is

not

> coming off...but, very concerned that now it never will. I started

> Levoxyl @ 50 mg a day. Does the medictaion help or hinder dieting

and

> exersize efforts?? So far I feel like I am sinking deeper and

deeper

> in depression because of the weight issue> I watch what I eat and

> work out at least 3 x a week. Does it help to increase this? Does

it

> even make a difference. Please contact me at kmsg8r@h... I

> would love some advice!!!!!!!

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Oh man would I be one ticked off redneck if I had to deal with that. Will

give you some info on how to deal with this. You have gotten some good

advice so far.

Type up a Letter to this Doctor. Then go registar it and ONLY the Dr is

to sign for it. This way you can see he did get it.

Now except the offer to be at the Meeting. Go around talking be out

there but do not talk with anyone about this situation unless it is the Doctor

his self. Try and get a chance to talk one on one with him. If you get to stand

up and speak please do this. Right now start getting your questions ready.

Ask him What type of insurance does he take's. If it is anything other than

Your Insurance please stand and speak out on the WHY don't you take that

insurance. If he does then say then why is it I was told you do not.take it. Be

firm and a Parent. Do not let this ruffle your feathers as your best manners

will depend on the answers and you taking it with a grain of salt. I will tell

you in a minute your other options ok.

Get his side of it first as Office help does not make a difference if the

Doctor says something. I do think in this case the Doctor does not know the

office is doing this. He took a oath to help children. Meaning they do not

turn down a child. Even if it one visit. Just to evaluate them. You will get

more results by being calm.

Now if he doesn't take the Insurance then speak out the WHY. How many

kid's do you think have that insurance and can not get treatment? Ask is he the

choosey one? And not trying to help all kids?

See this will make other parent's THINK about the reason he came there. Is

it to make MORE money or is it to help a child no matter the cost? I do not

know the system or Hospitals out there but around here is a Totally different

way of doing things.

Now you have written him the letter and hopefully he will know you by

name by the meeting. lololol. If you do not get anywhere with him then call the

AMA and the State Insurance Commissioners office and let them know what a

hard time you are having. This will be Complaint 1 on him. Now where is this

Doctor from? I would go to the Better Business Bureau and check him out. Then

go to the AMA site and check him out. Go to the State he is from and do the

same as well as AZ state board of Medical. As your covering your behind now.

You want to be a Parent. You also want treatment for your child. Your

concerned that if you can be treated in this way. Just how many other Parent's

are getting the same treatment. Let me know if you need more info.

Robbin

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Sonya

You have GOT TO BE KIDDING! They've been leading you on this long? Did

you confront her about this? Its one thing if they won't see you because

of insurance (which is ridiculous), but quite another that they have been

giving you the WRONG INFORMATION all this time.

I think I would be writing a letter to this doctor. Better yet, I would

sure be attending this event, and make sure I got a few sentences in to

tell this rheumy about his office staff and what they did to you and

Aundrea. Then ask him if he would please see your daughter. What do you

have to lose? GRRRRR I would have had a very hard time being even close

to civil to that woman. Did she even apologize?

and Rob 17 Spondy

On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:30:09 -0000 " sonia1md " <sonia1md@...>

writes:

Here is the good news. Our weather has warmed up considerably and

Aundrea is doing much, much better.

I got a call today from the arthritis foundation wanting to know if I

could attend the event this sat to welcome the one and only ped

rheumy to the state of az. I asked if he was seeing patients..yep

been seeing them since Sept. I told her I hadn't been able to get

drea in and that I was told they weren't scheduling yet and to call

back in 4 weeks. She gives me the numbers to his clinic.

I call there and they put the office manager on the line and said

that he doesn't accept our insurance. (its thru the state plan due

to our heavy medical expenses and our income for the year was a major

negative due to opening the practice)...anyway, I said well if we

were to pay you privately so that she could be seen how much would

your office visits be and she said we wont accept you because of your

type of insurance. I told her what if I told you that she doesn't

have insurance and that I pay privately for her care...she replies

well she does have insurance and we don't accept it here! I asked

her where all the kids go for proper medical care that receive state

assistance. She said she has no idea but they don't come to their

clinic.

How lovely that we finally have a pediatric rheumy in the state of

az. If you have the right insurance then perhaps your child will be

fortunate to be seen. Meanwhile we have so called insurance which

thankfully has paid for labs...but we continue to pay out of pocket

for every dr. visit as well as meds because of the lovely

loophole " prior authorization " !

(drea 11 systemic jra/gerd)

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No she didn't apologize...by the end of the conversation she was just

rude.

From what I gather he works out of a clinic for the arizona arthritis

rheumatology clinic. I don't know if it has any affiliation with the

phoenix children's hospital which is where I have been calling. The

hospital clinic is the one that tells me he is awating authorization

from the insurace company to provide services. They also tell me

they are working to get enough staff to run the hosp clinic. They

did tell me he is seeing patients at these other clinics but that

those clinics dont accept our insurace...So, there is a chance that I

have been told the truth by the hospital clinic and that things just

arent' ready there.

I am blown out of the water that that woman would tell me that I

can't bring my daughter in to be seen and pray privately for care. I

think that must be illegal. Since when is cash not accepted as a

form of payment. At out practice we give patients the insurance form

and they pay us up from by credit card, check or cash. When we see

drea's current rheumy I have always had to pay by cash because he

doesn't accept our insurance.

I will tell you what the whole thing has made me very disenchanted.

The saddest part of all is that there are children with jra that have

no insurance other than thru the state...they obviously are in need

of care and for many there are no funds for them to pay privately for

care. What happens to these children???? I think we will just stay

put. I will continue to pay cash for her visits and the reason for a

change was never due to being disatisfied with where we are at. I

thought a 2nd opinion would be good, especially from a pedi rheumy.

Perhaps, if they ever do get opened at the hospital then I will see

about getting her scheduled. For now, I am over the whole thing!

(Aundrea 11 systemic jra/gerd)

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-- In , snooksmama@... wrote:

>

> Sonya

> You have GOT TO BE KIDDING! They've been leading you on this long?

Did

> you confront her about this? Its one thing if they won't see you

because

> of insurance (which is ridiculous), but quite another that they

have been

> giving you the WRONG INFORMATION all this time.

> I think I would be writing a letter to this doctor. Better yet, I

would

> sure be attending this event, and make sure I got a few sentences

in to

> tell this rheumy about his office staff and what they did to you and

> Aundrea. Then ask him if he would please see your daughter. What do

you

> have to lose? GRRRRR I would have had a very hard time being even

close

> to civil to that woman. Did she even apologize?

> and Rob 17 Spondy

>

> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:30:09 -0000 " sonia1md " <sonia1md@...>

> writes:

> Here is the good news. Our weather has warmed up considerably and

> Aundrea is doing much, much better.

>

> I got a call today from the arthritis foundation wanting to know if

I

> could attend the event this sat to welcome the one and only ped

> rheumy to the state of az. I asked if he was seeing patients..yep

> been seeing them since Sept. I told her I hadn't been able to get

> drea in and that I was told they weren't scheduling yet and to call

> back in 4 weeks. She gives me the numbers to his clinic.

>

> I call there and they put the office manager on the line and said

> that he doesn't accept our insurance. (its thru the state plan due

> to our heavy medical expenses and our income for the year was a

major

> negative due to opening the practice)...anyway, I said well if we

> were to pay you privately so that she could be seen how much would

> your office visits be and she said we wont accept you because of

your

> type of insurance. I told her what if I told you that she doesn't

> have insurance and that I pay privately for her care...she replies

> well she does have insurance and we don't accept it here! I asked

> her where all the kids go for proper medical care that receive

state

> assistance. She said she has no idea but they don't come to their

> clinic.

>

> How lovely that we finally have a pediatric rheumy in the state of

> az. If you have the right insurance then perhaps your child will be

> fortunate to be seen. Meanwhile we have so called insurance which

> thankfully has paid for labs...but we continue to pay out of pocket

> for every dr. visit as well as meds because of the lovely

> loophole " prior authorization " !

>

> (drea 11 systemic jra/gerd)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Beth,

read my reply to ...I wont bore the group with repeating my rant.

I doubt the doctor is the problem. As is often the case these issues

are mostly dealt with by management and the dr. is clueless unless he

owns his own practice. Which isn't the case with this doc.

Hmmm 13 Yuck..Its 82 and I am sitting in shorts and a t-shirt. I am

going to release myself of this frustration and enjoy a beautiful

day! :-)

sonia (drea 11 systemic jra/gerd)

-- In , Beth Yohnk <yohnkmom@...> wrote:

>

> :

>

> I can't imagine how frustrating this is for you (not to mention how

ticked off you must have been with that office manager). I can not

understand how they can deny seeing you if you are paying out of

pocket. In fact I wonder if they can do that at all! I remember

reading about other satellite offices for this new doctor are any of

them anywhere close to you that you could call one of them and try &

get her in??? I'm really mad for you. He must be really, really good

that he can already be turning people away (did that sound sarcastic

or what???) LOL.

>

> Thinking of you as usual. Hang in there. At least you have warm

weather...we made it all the way to 13 today!!!

>

>

> Sending prayers & happy thoughts,

> Beth :-)

>

>

>

> I am so frustrated!

>

> Here is the good news. Our weather has warmed up considerably and

> Aundrea is doing much, much better.

>

> I got a call today from the arthritis foundation wanting to know if

I

> could attend the event this sat to welcome the one and only ped

> rheumy to the state of az. I asked if he was seeing patients..yep

> been seeing them since Sept. I told her I hadn't been able to get

> drea in and that I was told they weren't scheduling yet and to call

> back in 4 weeks. She gives me the numbers to his clinic.

>

> I call there and they put the office manager on the line and said

> that he doesn't accept our insurance. (its thru the state plan due

> to our heavy medical expenses and our income for the year was a

major

> negative due to opening the practice)... anyway, I said well if we

> were to pay you privately so that she could be seen how much would

> your office visits be and she said we wont accept you because of

your

> type of insurance. I told her what if I told you that she doesn't

> have insurance and that I pay privately for her care...she replies

> well she does have insurance and we don't accept it here! I asked

> her where all the kids go for proper medical care that receive

state

> assistance. She said she has no idea but they don't come to their

> clinic.

>

> How lovely that we finally have a pediatric rheumy in the state of

> az. If you have the right insurance then perhaps your child will be

> fortunate to be seen. Meanwhile we have so called insurance which

> thankfully has paid for labs...but we continue to pay out of pocket

> for every dr. visit as well as meds because of the lovely

> loophole " prior authorization " !

>

> (drea 11 systemic jra/gerd)

>

>

>

>

>

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Krisitine,

You are right about the low reimbursement rates that doctors get with

HMO's, Medicaid, Medicare. We have experience with this in our

chiropractic office.

To be honest the part that frustrated me most was when I said tell me

the fees for office visits and I will pay privately and she told me

that wasn't an option. That, pissed me off.

Aundrea has really continued to improve each day with the warmer

weather. No sorethroats for the last few days and joint pain has

decreased significantly.

I believe this doc will get insurance approval eventually thru the

hospital clinic. In the meantime we will stay put. I am a person

that will vent, get if off my chest and just move on. Of course

since Aundrea's feeling better it probably makes that a little easier

to do! :-)

I would be more inclined to address the lack of care for jra kids

that are under-insured if I didn't have to worry about it

jeporadizing our own coverage. We admittedly are a unique case.

Most chiropractors don't get state assist for their kids. We only

have temporairy coverage now and its due to the excessive debt of

opening the practice this year and taking a loss....I would be

nervous at this point to rock the boat to much. As frustrating as

this was it would be worse if we had no health coverage at all!

(Aundrea systemic jra/gerd)-

-- In , bound for london <boundforlondon@...>

wrote:

>

> ,

>

> I am so sorry to hear this. I know how excited you have been to

have a doctor in your area. The sad part is that most people with

medical assistance get their care out of the ER because no one will

take the medical coupons because of low reimbursement. The government

pays probably 25-50% or less of what the doctor charges. They just

had a report on the news the other day about a doctor who takes only

Medicaid (government) insurnace. He has been charged with multiple

counts of abuse but he still works, made over a million dollars last

year, pulls teeth he shouldn't etc but when accused he just says that

they are low income, just suiing to get money etc etc and so he goes

on treating. Sad!

>

> There is not good coverage for patients who don't meet certain

insurance requirements etc. Is there a Shriners near you? I think

they have hospitals in Utah and California. It might be worth

calling. I have heard they help with transportation too. This is so

sad that you have a child who is needlessly suffering. If it is state

insurance and you are not getting anywhere with referrals etc how

about contacting your local congressman to see if they can help. It

may help. Or even your local newspapers. They may be able to help you

push some buttons.

>

> Hope she gets relief soon. Enjoy the sun. Glad she is feeling

better with the sun out.

>

> e, mom to joe 20 poly + lupus

>

>

> sonia1md <sonia1md@...> wrote:

> Here is the good news. Our weather has warmed up

considerably and

> Aundrea is doing much, much better.

>

> I got a call today from the arthritis foundation wanting to know if

I

> could attend the event this sat to welcome the one and only ped

> rheumy to the state of az. I asked if he was seeing patients..yep

> been seeing them since Sept. I told her I hadn't been able to get

> drea in and that I was told they weren't scheduling yet and to call

> back in 4 weeks. She gives me the numbers to his clinic.

>

> I call there and they put the office manager on the line and said

> that he doesn't accept our insurance. (its thru the state plan due

> to our heavy medical expenses and our income for the year was a

major

> negative due to opening the practice)...anyway, I said well if we

> were to pay you privately so that she could be seen how much would

> your office visits be and she said we wont accept you because of

your

> type of insurance. I told her what if I told you that she doesn't

> have insurance and that I pay privately for her care...she replies

> well she does have insurance and we don't accept it here! I asked

> her where all the kids go for proper medical care that receive

state

> assistance. She said she has no idea but they don't come to their

> clinic.

>

> How lovely that we finally have a pediatric rheumy in the state of

> az. If you have the right insurance then perhaps your child will be

> fortunate to be seen. Meanwhile we have so called insurance which

> thankfully has paid for labs...but we continue to pay out of pocket

> for every dr. visit as well as meds because of the lovely

> loophole " prior authorization " !

>

> (drea 11 systemic jra/gerd)

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hello my sweet little ticked off redneck friend! You always crack me

up! :-)

I hear everything your saying. I am willing to give the hospital the

benefit of the doubt. As a business owner I know there are lots of

challenges faced when setting up shop.

His clinic on the other hand needs to improve in public relations.

See my note to e....I will be more willing to dig deeper into

this once we get to the point of having private coverage. Call me a

coward but if I rock the boat to much I believe at this point I would

only be sinking my own ship!

(Aundrea 11 systemic jra/gerd)-

-- In , Robbin40@... wrote:

>

> ,

> Oh man would I be one ticked off redneck if I had to deal with

that. Will

> give you some info on how to deal with this. You have gotten some

good

> advice so far.

> Type up a Letter to this Doctor. Then go registar it and ONLY

the Dr is

> to sign for it. This way you can see he did get it.

> Now except the offer to be at the Meeting. Go around talking

be out

> there but do not talk with anyone about this situation unless it

is the Doctor

> his self. Try and get a chance to talk one on one with him. If you

get to stand

> up and speak please do this. Right now start getting your

questions ready.

> Ask him What type of insurance does he take's. If it is anything

other than

> Your Insurance please stand and speak out on the WHY don't you take

that

> insurance. If he does then say then why is it I was told you do

not.take it. Be

> firm and a Parent. Do not let this ruffle your feathers as your

best manners

> will depend on the answers and you taking it with a grain of salt.

I will tell

> you in a minute your other options ok.

> Get his side of it first as Office help does not make a

difference if the

> Doctor says something. I do think in this case the Doctor does not

know the

> office is doing this. He took a oath to help children. Meaning

they do not

> turn down a child. Even if it one visit. Just to evaluate them. You

will get

> more results by being calm.

> Now if he doesn't take the Insurance then speak out the WHY.

How many

> kid's do you think have that insurance and can not get treatment?

Ask is he the

> choosey one? And not trying to help all kids?

> See this will make other parent's THINK about the reason he came

there. Is

> it to make MORE money or is it to help a child no matter the

cost? I do not

> know the system or Hospitals out there but around here is a

Totally different

> way of doing things.

> Now you have written him the letter and hopefully he will know

you by

> name by the meeting. lololol. If you do not get anywhere with him

then call the

> AMA and the State Insurance Commissioners office and let them know

what a

> hard time you are having. This will be Complaint 1 on him. Now

where is this

> Doctor from? I would go to the Better Business Bureau and check

him out. Then

> go to the AMA site and check him out. Go to the State he is from

and do the

> same as well as AZ state board of Medical. As your covering your

behind now.

> You want to be a Parent. You also want treatment for your

child. Your

> concerned that if you can be treated in this way. Just how many

other Parent's

> are getting the same treatment. Let me know if you need more info.

> Robbin

>

>

>

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How frustrating! I cannot believe that they would not take private

payment. That does not even sound right. What does she care where she

gets the money - whether from you or an insurance company. They would

probably charge you more as you would not have the " group discount rate "

so many insurances can get. I would really try to talk to that dr or

write a letter. When I had a problem with my dr's office, I did not say

anything for quite awhile. When I did finally tell the dr that his

receptionist told me he had no time to see sick people (her exact words

to me!) he was very upset and dealt with the problem right away.

I hope you can get this all straightened out, and that you are enjoying

that beautiful weather. We were at -3 this morning in Chicago! Michele

(19, spondy)

________________________________

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of sonia1md

Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:30 PM

Subject: I am so frustrated!

Here is the good news. Our weather has warmed up considerably and

Aundrea is doing much, much better.

I got a call today from the arthritis foundation wanting to know if I

could attend the event this sat to welcome the one and only ped

rheumy to the state of az. I asked if he was seeing patients..yep

been seeing them since Sept. I told her I hadn't been able to get

drea in and that I was told they weren't scheduling yet and to call

back in 4 weeks. She gives me the numbers to his clinic.

I call there and they put the office manager on the line and said

that he doesn't accept our insurance. (its thru the state plan due

to our heavy medical expenses and our income for the year was a major

negative due to opening the practice)...anyway, I said well if we

were to pay you privately so that she could be seen how much would

your office visits be and she said we wont accept you because of your

type of insurance. I told her what if I told you that she doesn't

have insurance and that I pay privately for her care...she replies

well she does have insurance and we don't accept it here! I asked

her where all the kids go for proper medical care that receive state

assistance. She said she has no idea but they don't come to their

clinic.

How lovely that we finally have a pediatric rheumy in the state of

az. If you have the right insurance then perhaps your child will be

fortunate to be seen. Meanwhile we have so called insurance which

thankfully has paid for labs...but we continue to pay out of pocket

for every dr. visit as well as meds because of the lovely

loophole " prior authorization " !

(drea 11 systemic jra/gerd)

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WOW, what an incredibly rude and uncaring woman (putting it nicely!). Why

would she care if you are paying cash or not, they are still getting paid and

probably more if they are billing you directly! What does she think you are

printing off twenties in your garage! Clearly she has no compassion for

fellow human beings. I hope karma is lurking quickly around the corner for

her!

I hope Aundrea is feeling some relief from pain.

Are you going this Saturday to welcome him?

Take care.

Patty

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Hey girlfriend,

No I am not going this Sat to welcome him. Although, I have no

grudge against him and I am happy that he is here and obviously there

will be many kids that do benefit from his care.

The reason were not going is because my son has a ball game and

Aundrea and I have a girl day planned for awhile now. we are getting

hair cuts and color for me (gotta get rid of the grey) and then off

dress shopping for a masquerade ball that she has next week.

I am going to see about hitting a couple of the second hand clothing

stores and see if we can find any fancy gowns that are cheap and can

be modified. She doesn't want to wear a mask but instead wants one

painted on with makeup and jewels applied. Where do you buy that

face jewlery and how do you get it to stick??? Ask one of your teen

girls and maybe they can help me! :-)

Thats cool that the load of black laundry is done! You handled it

well. Glad to hear that all of the girls are doing ok and that hubby

has a job that he can at least tolerate. I know you must be very

happy to not feel so burdened about health insurance.

It was great to hear from you...Stay warm.

(aundrea 11 systemic jra/gerd) -

-- In , ThreeMayEmeralds@... wrote:

>

> WOW, what an incredibly rude and uncaring woman (putting it

nicely!). Why

> would she care if you are paying cash or not, they are still

getting paid and

> probably more if they are billing you directly! What does she

think you are

> printing off twenties in your garage! Clearly she has no

compassion for

> fellow human beings. I hope karma is lurking quickly around the

corner for her!

>

> I hope Aundrea is feeling some relief from pain.

>

> Are you going this Saturday to welcome him?

>

> Take care.

> Patty

>

>

>

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I'm glad to hear that your daughter is feeling so much better. That always

makes everything in the household better to me. I don't understand the " won't

take cash " thing. They should give you a discount because they are getting their

money up front and don't have to worry about the delay etc. My son's neurologist

doesn't take state insurance either, but will take cash (no discount though) so

each visit is about $1000. Yikes! Luckily we only go in once or twice a year and

he works with us over the phone in between. I asked him if he could bill the

state and I would pick up the difference but he said no. Some doctors

will-don't know if it is legal or not but it helps us. We have private insurance

too but because of my son's medical needs we have state too but it doesn't cover

much. Usually the docs will just write off their portion. If the doctor is part

of a children's hospital you would think he would be in the state's system

already. So frustrating for you and all the

other patients.

Hope today is a great day. I am off for a 3 hour drive north to pick joe up

from university and then 2 hours south to hospital chemo unit for infusion. I'm

bringing her home afterwards though since it will be around 8 p.m. when she is

finished, then I can watch her and push fluids and let her have a good nights

sleep and take her back up to university tomorrow. A long couple days for me and

her. But I'm grateful we have modern medicine so I'll say a prayer of gratitude

for that.

e, mom to joe 20 poly + lupus

sonia1md <sonia1md@...> wrote:

Krisitine,

You are right about the low reimbursement rates that doctors get with

HMO's, Medicaid, Medicare. We have experience with this in our

chiropractic office.

To be honest the part that frustrated me most was when I said tell me

the fees for office visits and I will pay privately and she told me

that wasn't an option. That, pissed me off.

Aundrea has really continued to improve each day with the warmer

weather. No sorethroats for the last few days and joint pain has

decreased significantly.

I believe this doc will get insurance approval eventually thru the

hospital clinic. In the meantime we will stay put. I am a person

that will vent, get if off my chest and just move on. Of course

since Aundrea's feeling better it probably makes that a little easier

to do! :-)

I would be more inclined to address the lack of care for jra kids

that are under-insured if I didn't have to worry about it

jeporadizing our own coverage. We admittedly are a unique case.

Most chiropractors don't get state assist for their kids. We only

have temporairy coverage now and its due to the excessive debt of

opening the practice this year and taking a loss....I would be

nervous at this point to rock the boat to much. As frustrating as

this was it would be worse if we had no health coverage at all!

(Aundrea systemic jra/gerd)-

-- In , bound for london <boundforlondon@...>

wrote:

>

> ,

>

> I am so sorry to hear this. I know how excited you have been to

have a doctor in your area. The sad part is that most people with

medical assistance get their care out of the ER because no one will

take the medical coupons because of low reimbursement. The government

pays probably 25-50% or less of what the doctor charges. They just

had a report on the news the other day about a doctor who takes only

Medicaid (government) insurnace. He has been charged with multiple

counts of abuse but he still works, made over a million dollars last

year, pulls teeth he shouldn't etc but when accused he just says that

they are low income, just suiing to get money etc etc and so he goes

on treating. Sad!

>

> There is not good coverage for patients who don't meet certain

insurance requirements etc. Is there a Shriners near you? I think

they have hospitals in Utah and California. It might be worth

calling. I have heard they help with transportation too. This is so

sad that you have a child who is needlessly suffering. If it is state

insurance and you are not getting anywhere with referrals etc how

about contacting your local congressman to see if they can help. It

may help. Or even your local newspapers. They may be able to help you

push some buttons.

>

> Hope she gets relief soon. Enjoy the sun. Glad she is feeling

better with the sun out.

>

> e, mom to joe 20 poly + lupus

>

>

> sonia1md <sonia1md@...> wrote:

> Here is the good news. Our weather has warmed up

considerably and

> Aundrea is doing much, much better.

>

> I got a call today from the arthritis foundation wanting to know if

I

> could attend the event this sat to welcome the one and only ped

> rheumy to the state of az. I asked if he was seeing patients..yep

> been seeing them since Sept. I told her I hadn't been able to get

> drea in and that I was told they weren't scheduling yet and to call

> back in 4 weeks. She gives me the numbers to his clinic.

>

> I call there and they put the office manager on the line and said

> that he doesn't accept our insurance. (its thru the state plan due

> to our heavy medical expenses and our income for the year was a

major

> negative due to opening the practice)...anyway, I said well if we

> were to pay you privately so that she could be seen how much would

> your office visits be and she said we wont accept you because of

your

> type of insurance. I told her what if I told you that she doesn't

> have insurance and that I pay privately for her care...she replies

> well she does have insurance and we don't accept it here! I asked

> her where all the kids go for proper medical care that receive

state

> assistance. She said she has no idea but they don't come to their

> clinic.

>

> How lovely that we finally have a pediatric rheumy in the state of

> az. If you have the right insurance then perhaps your child will be

> fortunate to be seen. Meanwhile we have so called insurance which

> thankfully has paid for labs...but we continue to pay out of pocket

> for every dr. visit as well as meds because of the lovely

> loophole " prior authorization " !

>

> (drea 11 systemic jra/gerd)

>

>

>

>

>

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e,

Yeah, I have to agree with you about the cash thing..I think the

woman was an idiot. Any patient has the right to pay cash and how

can you deny them that just because they also have an insurance which

you don't have. That is clearly discrimnatory. My guess is they

thing that they wont be paid.

This doc is new to the hospital which is why he isn't yet on with the

insurance programs.

Drea had sore ankles this morning but she did better within a couple

hours and did well the rest of the day. :-)

Sounds like you have a busy couple of days with Miss Joe. Sure hope

that she does well and isn't hit to hard with the fatigue.

(Aundrea 11 systemic jra/gerd)

> > Here is the good news. Our weather has warmed up

> considerably and

> > Aundrea is doing much, much better.

> >

> > I got a call today from the arthritis foundation wanting to know

if

> I

> > could attend the event this sat to welcome the one and only ped

> > rheumy to the state of az. I asked if he was seeing patients..yep

> > been seeing them since Sept. I told her I hadn't been able to get

> > drea in and that I was told they weren't scheduling yet and to

call

> > back in 4 weeks. She gives me the numbers to his clinic.

> >

> > I call there and they put the office manager on the line and said

> > that he doesn't accept our insurance. (its thru the state plan

due

> > to our heavy medical expenses and our income for the year was a

> major

> > negative due to opening the practice)...anyway, I said well if we

> > were to pay you privately so that she could be seen how much

would

> > your office visits be and she said we wont accept you because of

> your

> > type of insurance. I told her what if I told you that she doesn't

> > have insurance and that I pay privately for her care...she

replies

> > well she does have insurance and we don't accept it here! I asked

> > her where all the kids go for proper medical care that receive

> state

> > assistance. She said she has no idea but they don't come to their

> > clinic.

> >

> > How lovely that we finally have a pediatric rheumy in the state

of

> > az. If you have the right insurance then perhaps your child will

be

> > fortunate to be seen. Meanwhile we have so called insurance which

> > thankfully has paid for labs...but we continue to pay out of

pocket

> > for every dr. visit as well as meds because of the lovely

> > loophole " prior authorization " !

> >

> > (drea 11 systemic jra/gerd)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Looking for earth-friendly autos?

> > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center.

> >

> >

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You are right about speaking with the dr. verses the office staff. I

will eventually get in at the hospital clinic and I will be

discussing the matter with him.

Negative 3 in Chicago. This has been one cold winter for you

midwesterners...I miss a good cold Illinois day but I think thats all

I would need .... one day. Haha.

sonia (aundrea 11 systemic jra/gerd)

>

>

How frustrating! I cannot believe that they would not take private

> payment. That does not even sound right. What does she care where

she

> gets the money - whether from you or an insurance company. They

would

> probably charge you more as you would not have the " group discount

rate "

> so many insurances can get. I would really try to talk to that dr or

> write a letter. When I had a problem with my dr's office, I did not

say

> anything for quite awhile. When I did finally tell the dr that his

> receptionist told me he had no time to see sick people (her exact

words

> to me!) he was very upset and dealt with the problem right away.

>

> I hope you can get this all straightened out, and that you are

enjoying

> that beautiful weather. We were at -3 this morning in Chicago!

Michele

> (19, spondy)

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: [mailto: ] On

> Behalf Of sonia1md

> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:30 PM

>

> Subject: I am so frustrated!

>

>

>

> Here is the good news. Our weather has warmed up considerably and

> Aundrea is doing much, much better.

>

> I got a call today from the arthritis foundation wanting to know if

I

> could attend the event this sat to welcome the one and only ped

> rheumy to the state of az. I asked if he was seeing patients..yep

> been seeing them since Sept. I told her I hadn't been able to get

> drea in and that I was told they weren't scheduling yet and to call

> back in 4 weeks. She gives me the numbers to his clinic.

>

> I call there and they put the office manager on the line and said

> that he doesn't accept our insurance. (its thru the state plan due

> to our heavy medical expenses and our income for the year was a

major

> negative due to opening the practice)...anyway, I said well if we

> were to pay you privately so that she could be seen how much would

> your office visits be and she said we wont accept you because of

your

> type of insurance. I told her what if I told you that she doesn't

> have insurance and that I pay privately for her care...she replies

> well she does have insurance and we don't accept it here! I asked

> her where all the kids go for proper medical care that receive

state

> assistance. She said she has no idea but they don't come to their

> clinic.

>

> How lovely that we finally have a pediatric rheumy in the state of

> az. If you have the right insurance then perhaps your child will be

> fortunate to be seen. Meanwhile we have so called insurance which

> thankfully has paid for labs...but we continue to pay out of pocket

> for every dr. visit as well as meds because of the lovely

> loophole " prior authorization " !

>

> (drea 11 systemic jra/gerd)

>

>

>

>

>

>

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