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[Guest guest]

At 07:31 PM 5/26/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>Hi Heidi,

>My homemade mayo and ice cream was straight out of NT with no heating

>involved. The eggs for the mayo were supposed to come to room

>temperature, which they did. Maybe that was the problem? They sat out

>for a least an hour before I thought they were room temp.

I don't think they are a problem IN the shell -- very few eggs have

bacteria in the shell, they are considered to be sterile. Something like 1

in 10,000 DO have a bit of bacteria, but it probably wouldn't make you sick

if you eat them fresh from the shell. I think most of the cases of

contamination are from the shell itself, and virtually all the cases I've

heard of were from something made with raw eggs that sat around for awhile,

that didn't have any acid in it..

>This morning I checked out information about salmonella and it jarred

>my memory. I remembered eating some lightly cooked ground beef from a

>large local health food store, which will go un-named. It had an off

>taste, which was disgusting, and I couldn't even finsh it. I threw

>away the rest. I have gotten used to grass fed beef and now have

>learned the only way to eat grain fed, when it is all that is

>available, is well done. So perhaps the source of my illness was the

>undercooked beef and not eggs at all!

I'd vote for undercooked ground beef. Ground beef is iffy, in my book,

unless you ground it yourself. Smelly ground beef sure could be the culprit!

>I like to belive this, but

>realize I am taking a risk if I try the ice cream or mayo again.

>I do take probiotics every morning and every night. My doctor said

>they are more effective if taken without food. I have never thought

>of taking them with raw foods. Since I eat a lot of raw foods this

>might be a very good idea. Sounds sensible to me.

I stopped taking probiotic pills and now eat fermented vegies (my kimchi

addiction, in my case) with every meal. Most societies ate pickles (or wine

or beer) with every meal, " for the digestion " . People felt they would get

sick if they DIDN'T eat the pickles. I think it does a number of things: 1)

Provide digestive enzymes, 2) Provide extra vitamins, 3) Provide TONS of

live bacteria (a lot more than in the pills, and a lot more lively). The

bacteria help digest the food, but they also kill the " bad " bacteria big

time, and the lactic acid in the pickles does the same. People didn't have

refrigerators 'til recently, and I suspect they ate a lot of salmonella

back then. Getting a bit of salmonella with the lactobacilli to kill it,

they probably got immune to the strains of salmonella that were around.

They studied probiotics and " traveller's diarrhea " , and probiotic-takers

are only half as likely to succumb to any kind of food sickness. I'd guess

that the Koreans, who eat Kimchi with EVERY meal (even breakfast) have a

very low rate of food poisoning. Salmonella and camplobacter are just wimps

compared to lactobacilli, and they don't like acid.

Anyway, if you eat fermented vegies with every meal, you'll have so many

extra bacteria it won't matter if they are " more effective " or not with a

meal. I've been chowing down on half a mason jar of Kimchi a day and I feel

GREAT. Works better than the pills, and it's a lot cheaper. I've made a

couple of other kinds of vegies, I just like the kimchi the best.

>I normally have two egg yolks in a shake every morning. They are

>straight out of the shell. Wouldn't a vinegar rinse cause the egg

>shell to be more porous and then the bacteria could perhaps enter the

>egg with more ease? Does it actually kill it fast enough to prevent

>this problem?

I don't know. I usually scrub mine with a little baking soda to make myself

feel better and to get rid of the dirt (read chicken poop) that is

sometimes on them. Eating an egg fresh from a chicken nest is kind of like

eating a Zucchini that's been sitting on the ground -- it's probably just

fine, but I need to wash it!

Technically you are not supposed to wash them, they don't keep as long, but

I wash them before putting them in the fridge. Some places are now running

them under ultraviolet lights to sterilize the outside. I don't really

think it's an issue though, unless the thing you are making with them is

going to sit around for awhile (like mayo) and you don't have acid in it.

Ice cream is probably ok if you freeze it fairly soon.

>I use white vinegar for cleaning around the house all

>the time, but I normally let it sit a while on a surface. It is cheap

>and effective. A few drops of lavander oil kills some of it's strong

>odor.

Me too. It is effective. Someone did a study on it, and vinegar does kill

most of the germs. Vinegar followed by a rinse of hydrogen peroxide kills

as many as bleach (either order, vinegar or H2O2 first). I don't have

hydrogen peroxide around much, but I think baking soda kills most of them too.

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

-Dear Heidi,

Thank you for the complete reply and the great advice.

I don't always have fermented foods with every meal, but I will give

them a big try from here on out. I love kim chee too. I think I will

make the NT Latin American sauerkraut, because I made some of the

pineapple vinegar Sally recommends using in it. I will make some of

your kim chee. It sounds delicious. I find it surprising the Koreans

can eat so much kim chee and not have thyroid problems. Maybe this is

because thy have larger sources of iodine from sea weeds in their

daily diet. What do you think?

I am on a very low dose of Armour disacated thyroid and don't want to

mess that up by eating too much cabbage. Maybe iodine in some form

would work just as well? I have some kelp in a shaker, that might be

helpful? I would love to get rid of as many supplements as possible.

I like them to use them for emergencies only, like a threatening

cold.

It seems to me our whole water and food supply is in a rather

negative situation and supplements are necessary to make up for the

lack of nutrients for optimal health. Poor soil, not enough Omega 3,

too much Omega 6, pollutants everywhere, etc, etc. the list goes on

and on. We NT people are doing our best in a very poor situation.

I eggs I buy which look quite clean, but a little scrub with baking

soda is a good idea. I will do that too. I have read that salmonella

can enter an egg through the shell, but I don't know if the study

came from a reliable source.

I use white vinegar in one spray bottle, followed by hydrogen

peroxide in an other spray bottle if I am cleaning somethihg really

dirty. Works very well.

Thanks again, you have been very helpful.

Sheila

-- In @y..., Heidi Schuppenhauer <heidis@t...> wrote:

> At 07:31 PM 5/26/2002 +0000, you wrote:

> >Hi Heidi,

> >My homemade mayo and ice cream was straight out of NT with no

heating

> >involved. The eggs for the mayo were supposed to come to room

> >temperature, which they did. Maybe that was the problem? They sat

out

> >for a least an hour before I thought they were room temp.

>

> I don't think they are a problem IN the shell -- very few eggs have

> bacteria in the shell, they are considered to be sterile. Something

like 1

> in 10,000 DO have a bit of bacteria, but it probably wouldn't make

you sick

> if you eat them fresh from the shell. I think most of the cases of

> contamination are from the shell itself, and virtually all the

cases I've

> heard of were from something made with raw eggs that sat around for

awhile,

> that didn't have any acid in it..

>

>

> >This morning I checked out information about salmonella and it

jarred

> >my memory. I remembered eating some lightly cooked ground beef

from a

> >large local health food store, which will go un-named. It had an

off

> >taste, which was disgusting, and I couldn't even finsh it. I threw

> >away the rest. I have gotten used to grass fed beef and now have

> >learned the only way to eat grain fed, when it is all that is

> >available, is well done. So perhaps the source of my illness was

the

> >undercooked beef and not eggs at all!

>

> I'd vote for undercooked ground beef. Ground beef is iffy, in my

book,

> unless you ground it yourself. Smelly ground beef sure could be the

culprit!

>

> >I like to belive this, but

> >realize I am taking a risk if I try the ice cream or mayo again.

> >I do take probiotics every morning and every night. My doctor said

> >they are more effective if taken without food. I have never thought

> >of taking them with raw foods. Since I eat a lot of raw foods this

> >might be a very good idea. Sounds sensible to me.

>

> I stopped taking probiotic pills and now eat fermented vegies (my

kimchi

> addiction, in my case) with every meal. Most societies ate pickles

(or wine

> or beer) with every meal, " for the digestion " . People felt they

would get

> sick if they DIDN'T eat the pickles. I think it does a number of

things: 1)

> Provide digestive enzymes, 2) Provide extra vitamins, 3) Provide

TONS of

> live bacteria (a lot more than in the pills, and a lot more

lively). The

> bacteria help digest the food, but they also kill the " bad "

bacteria big

> time, and the lactic acid in the pickles does the same. People

didn't have

> refrigerators 'til recently, and I suspect they ate a lot of

salmonella

> back then. Getting a bit of salmonella with the lactobacilli to

kill it,

> they probably got immune to the strains of salmonella that were

around.

>

> They studied probiotics and " traveller's diarrhea " , and probiotic-

takers

> are only half as likely to succumb to any kind of food sickness.

I'd guess

> that the Koreans, who eat Kimchi with EVERY meal (even breakfast)

have a

> very low rate of food poisoning. Salmonella and camplobacter are

just wimps

> compared to lactobacilli, and they don't like acid.

>

> Anyway, if you eat fermented vegies with every meal, you'll have so

many

> extra bacteria it won't matter if they are " more effective " or not

with a

> meal. I've been chowing down on half a mason jar of Kimchi a day

and I feel

> GREAT. Works better than the pills, and it's a lot cheaper. I've

made a

> couple of other kinds of vegies, I just like the kimchi the best.

>

> >I normally have two egg yolks in a shake every morning. They are

> >straight out of the shell. Wouldn't a vinegar rinse cause the egg

> >shell to be more porous and then the bacteria could perhaps enter

the

> >egg with more ease? Does it actually kill it fast enough to prevent

> >this problem?

>

> I don't know. I usually scrub mine with a little baking soda to

make myself

> feel better and to get rid of the dirt (read chicken poop) that is

> sometimes on them. Eating an egg fresh from a chicken nest is kind

of like

> eating a Zucchini that's been sitting on the ground -- it's

probably just

> fine, but I need to wash it!

>

> Technically you are not supposed to wash them, they don't keep as

long, but

> I wash them before putting them in the fridge. Some places are now

running

> them under ultraviolet lights to sterilize the outside. I don't

really

> think it's an issue though, unless the thing you are making with

them is

> going to sit around for awhile (like mayo) and you don't have acid

in it.

> Ice cream is probably ok if you freeze it fairly soon.

>

> >I use white vinegar for cleaning around the house all

> >the time, but I normally let it sit a while on a surface. It is

cheap

> >and effective. A few drops of lavander oil kills some of it's

strong

> >odor.

>

> Me too. It is effective. Someone did a study on it, and vinegar

does kill

> most of the germs. Vinegar followed by a rinse of hydrogen peroxide

kills

> as many as bleach (either order, vinegar or H2O2 first). I don't

have

> hydrogen peroxide around much, but I think baking soda kills most

of them too.

>

> -- Heidi

[Guest guest]

h2ocolor1937 wrote:

> I find it surprising the Koreans

> can eat so much kim chee and not have thyroid problems. Maybe this is

> because thy have larger sources of iodine from sea weeds in their

> daily diet. What do you think?

I've read that fermentation (and heating, BTW) neutralizes thyroid

suppressing substances in cabbage and other cruciferous veggies.

Roman

[Guest guest]

At 06:22 PM 5/27/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>I don't always have fermented foods with every meal, but I will give

>them a big try from here on out. I love kim chee too. I think I will

>make the NT Latin American sauerkraut, because I made some of the

>pineapple vinegar Sally recommends using in it. I will make some of

>your kim chee. It sounds delicious. I find it surprising the Koreans

>can eat so much kim chee and not have thyroid problems. Maybe this is

>because thy have larger sources of iodine from sea weeds in their

>daily diet. What do you think?

??? this is a new one, I must have missed it. Why would cabbage cause thyroid

problems?

If it does, I'd bet it is fresh cabbage. People have been living off boiled

cabbage and sauerkraut for ages. *Fresh* cabbage in large quantities seems

problematic though (it gives me a stomach ache).

Heidi Schuppenhauer

Trillium Custom Software Inc.

heidis@...

[Guest guest]

> ??? this is a new one, I must have missed it. Why would cabbage

> cause thyroid problems?

> If it does, I'd bet it is fresh cabbage. People have been living

> off boiled cabbage and sauerkraut for ages. *Fresh* cabbage in

> large quantities seems problematic though (it gives me a stomach

> ache).

Cabbage-family foods are goiterogenic like soy and millet are. I

suspect that the goiterogens are largely destroyed by

fermenting/soaking, but I don't know for sure. If it's a concern (as

with hypothyroidism), I'd certainly add such foods slowly and take

great care to note any changes in the condition.

In the case of cabbages and mustards (incl radishes and rapeseed

(canola), the goiterogens are thiocyanates and glucosinolates. I did

a brief search to try to find a reference about deactivation of those

chemicals by bacterial, enzyme, or acid-base reactions, but I didn't

find anything. It was only a brief search though.

Finally, I don't think consumption of these foods is a problem for

most people (unless they're being eaten in very large amounts...as

with soy formulas or vegetarian meat replacements). However, if you

have low or marginal thyroid, I'd proceed cautiously.

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We saw Dr. Witt at KU Med and were waiting to see Dr. Singhal but gave up on that. I was most comfortable with the folks at RDA, so I had my ped write the script and I am really comfortable with that.

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Dear

I have spoken to you before and would like to offer my services. I am Larry

McQuarie, harmed in the Nassif Government in 1995. Please tell me what I

can do to help the cause in Kansas, or for that matter anywhere.

Sincerely

Larry N. McQuarie

706 Nth 29th St

Parsons, Kansas 67357

620-423-8039

>From: CarrollBower <ntmcpresident@...>

>Reply-

>

>CC: marbme12@...

>Subject: [] (unknown)

>Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:05:21 -0700 (PDT)

>

>

>Please be advised this is the Petition we have submitted to Congress for

>Funding for Victims. Please keep us in your prayers as we endeavor to help

>victims.

>

>

>

>CONGRESSIONAL PETITION REQUESTING FEDERAL FUNDING FOR VICTIM SERVICES FOR

>TOXIC MOLD VICTIMS THROUGH

>

>THE NATIONAL TOXIC MOLD COALITION AND FOUNDATION

>

>

>

>

>August 26, 2002

>

>

>

>

> Herein, The National Toxic Mold Coalition and Foundation, P.O. Box

>923, Ozark, Missouri, approach Congress with this request to allocate

>funding for victim services for Toxic Mold Victims.

>

>

>

>1. Victims are being displaced and made homeless for long and short

>periods of time. They need help with relocation funds on a temporary basis

>until they can secure a new place to live.

>

>

>

>2. Many victims have no known insurance coverage for property damage do

>to Mold and Toxic Mold exposures.

>

>

>

>3. The National Toxic Mold Coalition receives hundreds of requests for

>aid by victims monthly.

>

>

>

>4. The National Toxic Mold Coalition already houses a data bank

>containing victims and their needs.

>

>

>

>5. There is no one else uniformly helping victims, while the flooding,

>and leaks have caused major mold problems throughout the U.S.

>

>

>

>6. The insurance companies complain of not being able to pay the claims

>for Toxic Mold, often delaying payment until victims are homeless. Funding

>would help to alleviate this stress for both victims and the insurance

>carriers.

>

>

>

>7. The National Toxic Mold Coalition has set up Directors in over 14

>States to assess victim needs. They are receiving requests regularly.

>

>

>

>8. Health issues arising from Toxic Mold exposure range from moderate

>to severe. Recently our disaster staff reported having to transport by

>plane a child victim whose kidneys were in failure.

>

>

>

>9. The National Toxic Mold Coalition has secured volunteers Paramedics,

>physicians and rescue teams willing to work on a volunteer or sliding fee

>scale for victims, to help them relocate, consult with victims, and to

>address immediate health and living needs.

>

>

>

>10. In reality the National Toxic Mold Coalition realizes this is a great

>

>Undertaking but is important to the economy, by quickly addressing the

>problems, finding remedy, so that victims can return to work ethnic.

>

>

>

>

>

>For the above reasons The National Toxic Mold Coalition and Foundation

>requests Congressional or other Federal Funding to be allocated to The

>National Toxic Mold Coalition and Foundation in order that we may begin

>helping victims. The goal is to open a environmental clinic on a small

>scale for victims treatment by qualified physicians, and relocation efforts

>for victims as well as

>

>Basic necessities needed. We have already ensured disaster teams of

>qualified individuals and a medical advisory board. Please see attached

>definition of Toxic Molds. (attachment)

>

>

>

> respectfully submitted,

>

> Carroll-Bower,

>

> Pres. NTMC

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

This is for Larry N. McQuarie, I to was infected from working 18 months in a DOT building Here In Tallahassee, Florida. They have paid around $75,000 for studies on this building and every single one came back really bad. My office had 22 kinds of mold most are toxic and it clearly said that the people on our floor is seriously being contaminated with toxic mold through the air-condition handling units #1, then our carpets, walls, inside the walls etc are toxic. 114 people are still there, the guy who owns the building and has a 10 years lease with DOT will not let us out of the lease, so DOT is sitting there waiting to go to court over the lease, mind you they don't care about making those people sit there day after day in that mess! the owner of the building is pulling down some of the wall's while people are sitting at there desk. I have three Doctors that say I should never step foot back into that building, I had spinal cord surgery, now I am diagnosed with syringomyelia for the rest of my life, I have a shunt put into my thoraic area of my cord. I will have to have MRI'S every 6 months to a year for the rest of my life, this disorder can be progressed by coughing and sneezing. I feel for you and know what you are going through. I wish you luck, keep us updated. Take care and stay on it. Best of luck. Donna in Tallahassee.

----- Original Message -----

From: Larry McQuarie

Cc: jim.allen@...

Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 7:14 AM

Subject: [] (unknown)

Dear Group:I am very tired of hearing that Toxic Mold does not harm anyone. I am particularly concerned with the the Dallas station's report on this matter. I sent them the following letter:Sir/Madam:I worked in a Federal building in Washington, DC. I was in perfect health when I began workingin the DOT's, Nassif Building in 1993 and 2 and 1/2 years later left disabled from ToxicContaminants. I have many of the inspection reports. I experienced many of the symptoms, andknow that if you are saying toxic mold does not harm people, then you have not done yourhomework. You are apparently letting someone else do your homework for you. Those that aredoing your homework must be from the Government through the Department of Disinformation.I did not hear the story. However, through several people that did, I have gotten the overallpicture of your irresponsible broadcast. I personally, being a victim, challange your authorities todebate this live on your station.Larry N. McQuarie706 Nth 29th StParsons, KS 67357620-423-8039_________________________________________________________________MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspxFAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.

[Guest guest]

Dear Donna:

If you are still working in this building, get out. Your life depends on

doing that. When I left the Federal Railroad Administration I was as sick

as I could be. My contamination manifested itself in Major Depression

(Moderate to Severe) without psychotic features. I intend to let the world

know about it.

It is my intention to bring this matter to the entire world. Our

generations to come deserve to have a clean world to live in. Whatever, is

causing this contamination problem has to be stopped, even if it means that

the Building Owners have to lose a little of their amassed fortunes.

I would like to ask if you have done much reasearch on this building. I

have dealt with the Federal Government, FOIA, and the building management.

It was only after I went through a Senator did I get anything. Even though

they sent me the report on the building it was not complete. Several pages

were missing and all of the important appendices (5) were missing.

I intend to bring this to the attention of the entire Nation. For the sake

of generations to come, and especially the children, we have got to act.

I gave my phone number and address in most of the things that I have sent

and would like to request that others do the same. I know that it seems

intrusive on our lives, but in the long run we will go down as heroes. That

is by bringing the problem to the masses, will we ever to be able to put the

" kabosh " on the so-called authorities.

Sincerely

Larry N. McQuarie

706 Nth 29th St

Parsons,KS 67357

(620)423-8039

>From: Donna Custer <custer002@...>

>Reply-sick buildings

>

>Subject: Re: [] (unknown)

>Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:18:01 -0400

>

>This is for Larry N. McQuarie, I to was infected from working 18 months in

>a DOT building Here In Tallahassee, Florida. They have paid around $75,000

>for studies on this building and every single one came back really bad. My

>office had 22 kinds of mold most are toxic and it clearly said that the

>people on our floor is seriously being contaminated with toxic mold through

>the air-condition handling units #1, then our carpets, walls, inside the

>walls etc are toxic. 114 people are still there, the guy who owns the

>building and has a 10 years lease with DOT will not let us out of the

>lease, so DOT is sitting there waiting to go to court over the lease, mind

>you they don't care about making those people sit there day after day in

>that mess! the owner of the building is pulling down some of the wall's

>while people are sitting at there desk. I have three Doctors that say I

>should never step foot back into that building, I had spinal cord surgery,

>now I am diagnosed with syringomyelia for the rest of my life, I have a

>shunt put into my thoraic area of my cord. I will have to have MRI'S every

>6 months to a year for the rest of my life, this disorder can be progressed

>by coughing and sneezing. I feel for you and know what you are going

>through. I wish you luck, keep us updated. Take care and stay on it.

>Best of luck. Donna in Tallahassee.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Larry McQuarie

>

> Cc: jim.allen@...

> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 7:14 AM

> Subject: [] (unknown)

>

>

> Dear Group:

>

> I am very tired of hearing that Toxic Mold does not harm anyone. I am

> particularly concerned with the the Dallas station's report on this

>matter.

> I sent them the following letter:

>

>

> Sir/Madam:

>

> I worked in a Federal building in Washington, DC. I was in perfect

>health

> when I began working

> in the DOT's, Nassif Building in 1993 and 2 and 1/2 years later left

> disabled from Toxic

> Contaminants. I have many of the inspection reports. I experienced

>many of

> the symptoms, and

> know that if you are saying toxic mold does not harm people, then you

>have

> not done your

> homework. You are apparently letting someone else do your homework for

>you.

> Those that are

> doing your homework must be from the Government through the Department

>of

> Disinformation.

>

> I did not hear the story. However, through several people that did, I

>have

> gotten the overall

> picture of your irresponsible broadcast. I personally, being a victim,

> challange your authorities to

> debate this live on your station.

>

> Larry N. McQuarie

> 706 Nth 29th St

> Parsons, KS 67357

> 620-423-8039

>

>

>

>

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I'm really not sure what kind of helmet it's going to be. Going to be fitted and talk to Dr. next week. We noticed the flattening and have had him sleeping on his side since 3 months now, not to put him on his head. I don't think that its severe and my DR. said possibly 2 months and then just at night time, but i'll find out how bad it is next week. What kind of bands and helmets are there and what are the differences.

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Dino-Heads can round out on their own, but you can't get a guarantee that will improve significantly. We decided to band my son at 5 mo since he wasn't get as much progress from repositioning that we would have liked.What kind of helmet will your son be getting? My son had moderate plagiocephaly and wore a DOC Band from 5-8 months. You can see his before and after pictures in his photo album. Welcome to the group! Dane's mom DOC Grad> Hi fellow members,> > My son is 6 months old and was told yesterday that he needed to be fitted for a helmet. My wife and I are very nervous and wanted to hear from others who used the helmet. How long was it used for and did it work? Also, if you don't use the helmet will the flatness clear up on it's own.> > Anxiously waiting!> > Dino CoppolinoFor more plagio info

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I hope we do. The toxins have settled in my chest muscles today. This is a first. I sit here and cry in pain.Like a horrid sunburn but worse.There has to be help and we have to get somewhere. God Bless everyone and Merry Christmas, Janet s

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-----Original Message-----From: rapture00000 <rapture00000@...> [mailto:rapture00000@...] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:36 AMPlagiocephaly Subject: (unknown)When God became ManIsaiah 720 BC, Psalms 1000 BC, Micah 620 BC......Twenty Prophecies fulfilled in His First ComingHow do you know it is true??? Buried inside the Ancient Hebrew writings (Old Testament) written hundreds and some over a thousand years BC is the foretelling of what would take place when God became man. This is how you know it is true. The prophecies were very specific and told exactly when and where God would come to earth. The New Testament (written in Greek after the death of Christ) confirms these truths. He would be born in Bethlehem (Beit Lechem). (Micah 5:2; 2:4-6; 7:42) The exact time of His crucifixion was known (483 years from the decree to build the temple, which was around 444 B.C.E.). ( 9:25; Nehemiah 2:1-8; 5:14) He would be born of a virgin. (Isaiah 7:14; 1:20-23; Galatians 4:4; Genesis 3:15) His name would be Jesus (Yeshua in Hebrew), which means "Savior" or "Salvation." The word Yeshua in Hebrew means "salvation." It is derived from another Hebrew word, Yashah, which means "to save, deliver, preserve, bring salvation, get victory." ( 1:21) He would be the Son of G-d and G-d would be His Father. (Psalm 89:26-27; 2 7:8,12-14; 1 Chronicles 22:7-10; Hebrews 1:1-2,5; Mark 14:36; 20:30-31) He would go to Egypt and return to the land of Israel.(Hosea 11:1; 2:13-15)) He would be preceded by a messenger (a type of Elijah [Eliyahu] known as (Yochanan) the Immerser [baptist]) who would prepare the way of the Lord. (Malachi 3:1; Luke 1:13,76; 11:7,10 He gave up the glory in Heaven for the poverty of earth. (Luke 9:58; 2 Corinthians 8:9) He would ride into Jerusalem (Yerushalayim) on a donkey. (Zechariah 9:9; 21:5) He would be sold for 30 pieces of silver. (Zechariah 11:12; 26:14-16) He would be nailed to a tree. (Deuteronomy 21:22-23; Psalm 22:16; 19:18; 20:25) He would die for our sins. (Isaiah 53:5; 1 Corinthians 15:3; 1 2:24) He would be spit upon. (Isaiah 50:6; 26:67, 27:30) He would be given gall and vinegar to eat and drink. (Psalm 69:21; 27:34,48) Not one bone would be broken. (Psalm 34:20; 19:33,36) He would be pierced. (Zechariah 12:10; 19:34,37) He is King of the Jews (and the world). (Psalm 2:6; 18:33,37; 19:19-22) His soul would not be left in hell. (Psalm 16:10; 49:15; 56:13; Acts 2:27,31; 13:33-35) He would rise from the dead. (Psalm 16:10; Luke 24:6,31,34; Acts 2:27-31; 13:35) He would rise the third day from the grave. (Jonah 1:17; 1 Corinthians 15:4; Luke 24:45-46; 12:40) Websites for your home studies....Rapture studyhttp://www.ldolphin.org/raptpromise.htmlA series of studies on the book of....end times, prophecies, etc.http://www.pbc.org/dp/stedman/daniel/index.htmlStudies on Revelation....http://www.pbc.org/dp/stedman/revelation/index.htmlOlivet Discourse......http://www.pbc.org/dp/stedman/olivet/index.htmlIsrael....birth pangshttp://www.ldolphin.org/odino.htmlhttp://www.pbc.org/http://www.ldolphin.org/http://www.levitt.com/http://www.direct.ca/trinity/king.htmlhttp://pbc.org/dp/stedman/adventure/0241.htmlhttp://www.prophecyinthenews.com/index.aspwww.blueletterbible.orghttp://www.ldolphin.org/kingdom/index.htmlhttp://www.ldolphin.org/URLres.shtmlGod does not ask that people believe in Him without evidence....He uses many forms of knowledge to demostrate who He is. One of these is prophecy. Thousands of years ago God spoke to the prophets of Israel to tell them He was coming to earth. He told them where and when and under what conditions and that He would suffer and die so that man could be saved. The fact that Jesus was a man is a historical fact. We know He lived, just as we know Nero and the Great lived. The Bible is divided into two parts...the Old Testament and the New. The Old Testament was written in Hebrew....the last book was written approximately four hundred BC. The New Testament was written in Greek from after Christ died primarily by eye witnesses. We know the Old Testament existed long before Christ due to the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls and the historical fact that the Jews built temples and taught from the scrolls. Following are just a few of the prophecies contained in the Old Testament that Christ ( the Messiah, the Savior) was coming. The entire Bible is the revelation of God, of Christ. Prophecy is the prediction of a future event. It is given by God to prove who He is. There are literally hundreds of prophecies in the Bible, dealing with the past that has proven correct but also future events yet to happen.Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. In Zecariah (spelling)..the prophet foretold that Zion's (Israel) King would come riding an ass. I find this one of the most interesting from several aspects. First, the King, would offer salvation, eternal life. Second, notice that He will be riding the colt of an ass. No King in history rides a donkey, it just doesn't happen. They always rode stallions. Also notice that it is the colt of an ass. A colt has never been broken, an unbroken horse will buck you off. Also notice that He will ride into Jerusalem. Now we know that Christ rode into Jersusalem on Palm Sunday before His execution. He was riding a colt of an ass. When He rode in many common people (but not the religious leaders) yelled Hosanna (this means save us). Zecariah was written hundreds of years before the event.Mic 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, [though] thou be little among the thousands of Judah, [yet] out of thee shall he come forth unto me [that is] to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth [have been] from of old, from everlasting. Micah is a very small book in the Old Testament. Notice in this prophecy several things...first it tells where Christ will be born....Bethlehem was a tiny city...it says the King will come from this town...it also says something very interesting..His goings forth have been from old, from everlasting...why, becasue Christ is God, He existed before the universe was created. If you look in the New Testament ph and had to travel to Bethlehem before He was born.'Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Isaiah was written about 720 BC. This prophecy spells out that a virgin would give birth to a son. The name Immanuel in Hebrew means "God Amoung You". The name Jesus is from Greek translation. In Hebrew, Jesus's name was Yeshua which meant "Jehovah saves". There is a reason God had to come into the world thru a virgin...not just as a miracle sign. Each man is born from the "seed" of another man..the blood of that man transmits the sin of his father....what we call original sin....it is in all of us...you don't have to teach a child to lie.Behold, my servant shall prosper, he shall be exalted and lifted up, and shall be very high. As many were astonished at him -- his appearance was so marred, beyond human semblance, and his form beyond that of the sons of men -- so shall he startle many nations; kings shall shut their mouths because of him; for that which has not been told them they shall see, and that which they have not heard they shall understand. {Isa 52:13-15 RSV}Again Isaiah...notice that God's servant, the Christ, is foretold. Notice it says He will be lifted up...as Chirst was lifted up on the Cross. Notice that He is foretold to be beaten to point that people are astonished and that His face was to be beaten until you couldn't tell who He was. Notice that, not the Jews, but the rest of the world will understand who He is.Who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or comeliness that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief; and as one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not. {Isa 53:1-3 RSV}Isaiah again...notice Christ was not a man people would think was beautiful or a King. It was foretold in 720 BC that He would be rejected...that He would see grief...that He would be despised.. Psa 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. The Psalms were written in about 1000 BC. This prediction says that God will not leave Christ's soul in Hell....or see corruption..rot. His body would not rot. Notice it says thine Holy One, the Savior. Now this also foretells something else...that the Savior would have to die...as He did......if you study carefully in the New Testament you will see that Christ "gave up His spirit". He was not killed as you and I think of being killed...He chose to die...if He had wished...He could still be hanging there today.Psa 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of , and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for [his] only [son], and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for [his] firstborn. These two prediction come from Psalms and Zechariah...notice that they foretell a number of things which had to happen....first His hands and feet had to pierced..they were when nailed to the cross...notice also that the Jews will someday (when He returns) see him and mourn for the one they pierced...this refers to the fact that Christ had a spear thrust into him on the cross to make sure He was dead. Remember all these writings are hundreds of years before Christ came.Zec 11:12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give [me] my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty [pieces] of silver. Zec 11:13 And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty [pieces] of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD. Back to Zechariah...this foretells Christ being sold out for thirty pieces of silver. If you look in the New Testament you will see that Judas sold him out to the Romans for exactly thirty pieces of silver and then the money was later thrown potter. Only God could foretell such a small detail of His betrayal hundreds of years before it happened.Websites for your home studies....Rapture and Returnhttp://www.ldolphin.org/kingdom/ch14.htmlhttp://www.ldolphin.org/kingdom/ch4.htmlhttp://www.ldolphin.org/Return.htmlhttp://www.ldolphin.org/raptpromise.htmlA series of studies on the book of....end times, prophecies, etc.http://www.pbc.org/dp/stedman/daniel/index.htmlStudies on Revelation.... http://www.pbc.org/dp/stedman/revelation/index.htmlGod's Calendarhttp://pbc.org/dp/stedman/leviticus/0520.htmlThe Jewish Wedding and the Bride of Christhttp://www.ariel.org/ff00113c.htmlOlivet Discourse......http://www.pbc.org/dp/stedman/olivet/index.htmlIsrael....birth pangshttp://www.ldolphin.org/odino.htmlNew World Orderhttp://www.ldolphin.org/kingdom/ch7.htmlGenesis studyhttp://www.pbc.org/dp/stedman/genesis/index.htmlTemple studies…http://www.ldolphin.org/ezektmp.htmlhttp://www.ldolphin.org/whytemp.htmlhttp://www.ldolphin.org/kingdom/ch9.htmlNew Bodieshttp://www.ldolphin.org/newbodies.htmlMisc. study siteshttp://www.pbc.org/http://www.ldolphin.org/http://www.geocities.com/his_emissary/http://www.levitt.com/http://www.direct.ca/trinity/king.htmlhttp://www.blueletterbible.org/index.htmlhttp://pbc.org/dp/stedman/adventure/0241.htmlhttp://www.prophecyinthenews.com/index.aspSeventy Prophecies fulfilled in His First ComingAncient Hebrew writings (Old Testament) written hundreds and some over a thousand years BC. This is how you know it is true. The prophecies were very specific and told exactly when and where God would come to earth. The New Testament (written in Greek after the death of Christ) confirms these truths.He would be a descendent of Abraham (Avraham). (Genesis 12:1-3; 18:18; 22:18; 1:1-2,17; Galatians 3:8,16) He would be from the tribe of Judah (Yehudah) . (Genesis 49:8-10; Hebrews 7:14; Revelation 5:5) He would be a descendent of . (2 7:4-5,12-13; 1 Chronicles 17:11-14; Psalm 132:11; Luke 1:32-33,67-69; Acts 2:29-30; 1:17; Romans 1:3) He would be born in Bethlehem (Beit Lechem). (Micah 5:2; 2:4-6; 7:42) He would be from Nazareth and be called a Nazarene. ( 2:23; Luke 1:26-27; 1:45; Judges 13:5-7,24) The exact time of His crucifixion was known (483 years from the decree to build the temple, which was around 444 B.C.E.). ( 9:25; Nehemiah 2:1-8; 5:14) He would be born of a virgin. (Isaiah 7:14; 1:20-23; Galatians 4:4; Genesis 3:15) His name would be Immanuel. Immanuel in Hebrew means "G-d with us." (Isaiah 7:14; 1:21-23) His name would be Jesus (Yeshua in Hebrew), which means "Savior" or "Salvation." The word Yeshua in Hebrew means "salvation." It is derived from another Hebrew word, Yashah, which means "to save, deliver, preserve, bring salvation, get victory." ( 1:21) His name would be the Messiah. The word Christ in English comes from the Greek word Christos, which means "The Anointed One." Christos in Greek is the word Mashiach in Hebrew, which also means "The Anointed One." The word Mashiach means "Messiah," who is Yeshua. ( 1:41) He would be the only begotten Son of G-d. (Psalm 2:2,6-7; 1:14; Acts 13:33; Hebrews 1:1-2,5) He would be the Son of G-d and G-d would be His Father. (Psalm 89:26-27; 2 7:8,12-14; 1 Chronicles 22:7-10; Hebrews 1:1-2,5; Mark 14:36; 20:30-31) He would be circumcised the eighth day according to the law of purification. (Luke 2:21-24; Leviticus 12:1-6) He would go to Egypt and return to the land of Israel.(Hosea 11:1; 2:13-15) Young babies would die in an attempt to kill Yeshua at His birth.( 31:15; 2:16-18) He would be preceded by a messenger (a type of Elijah [Eliyahu] known as (Yochanan) the Immerser [baptist]) who would prepare the way of the Lord. (Malachi 3:1; Luke 1:13,76; 11:7,10) The messenger, (Yochanan) the Immerser (Baptist), would be preaching in the wilderness. (Isaiah 40:3-5; Luke 1:13,80,3:2-6) He would be a prophet like Moses (Moshe). (Deuteronomy 18:15; 1:45; Acts 3:20-23) He would be anointed of the Holy Spirit (Ruach HaKodesh). (Isaiah 11:1-2; 42:1; 3:16) He would preach and teach in the temple (Beit HaMikdash). (Malachi 3:1; Luke 4:16; 26:55; 7:28; 8:1-2) He came specifically to the house of Israel and not to the Gentiles. ( 15:21-26) Yeshua would be rejected by His own people Israel (corporately). [Note: It should be pointed out that many, many individual Jews were believers in Messiah during the first century. This can be seen very clearly by carefully examining , Mark, Luke, , and the Book of Acts.(Psalm 69:8; 31:11; 88:8,18; Job 19:13; 1:11; 7:3,5)] Yeshua is the stone that the builders rejected.(Psalm 118:22; Isaiah 3:10-12; Romans 9:11) Yeshua would be received by the Gentiles (corporately). [Note: It should be pointed out that many Gentiles are not believers in Yeshua and many others are believers in name only and not true followers with their hearts. The believers in Messiah are commanded to follow G-d with all of their heart (Deuteronomy 6:4-9).] (Isaiah 11:10; 42:6; 49:6,22; 54:3; 60:3,5,11,16; 61:6,9; 62:2; 66:12,19; Malachi 1:11; Luke 2:30-32; Acts 28:28) He would speak in parables. (Psalm 78:2-4; 13:34-35) The ministry of Yeshua would be in Galilee. (Isaiah 9:1-2; 4:12-16,23) His ministry would be to heal the sick, set the captives free, and preach deliverance. This is known as the basar (gospel) in Hebrew. (Isaiah 61:1-2; Luke 4:16-21; 4:23; 9:34-35; Acts 2:22; 10:38) Yeshua was to be the shepherd of Israel because Israel had no shepherd. (Ezekiel 34:5-10; 1 Kings 22:17; Zechariah 10:2; Genesis 49:22,24; Psalm 23:1; 80:1; Isaiah 40:10-11; Ezekiel 34:23-24; 37:24; 10:11,14-15) His message would not be believed. (Isaiah 53:1; 12:37-38) The meek would praise Him. (Psalm 8:1-2; 21:15-16) Illegal merchandise trading would be done in the temple. (Psalm 69:9; 2:13-17; Isaiah 56:7; 21:12-13) He would be hated. (Psalm 69:4; 35:19; 109:2-3; 119:161; 15:24-25) He would be a reproach to the people. (Psalm 69:9; 89:50-51; Romans 15:3) He would not seek publicity. (Isaiah 42:1-2; 12:15-19; 9:30; 8:4) He can be trusted and would be compassionate. (Isaiah 42:3; 12:15,20-21) No evil words would proceed from His mouth. (Isaiah 53:9; Luke 23:41; 1 2:21-22; 2 Corinthians 5:21) His disciples would forsake Him. (Zechariah 13:7; 26:31-35,56) There was nothing physically beautiful in Him to be desired. (Isaiah 53:2; Psalm 22:6; Mark 6:1-3; Philippians 2:7) He gave up the glory in Heaven for the poverty of earth. (Luke 9:58; 2 Corinthians 8:9) He would publicly enter Jerusalem (Yerushalayim) before the time of His crucifixion. (Zechariah 9:9; 21:1-5) He would ride into Jerusalem (Yerushalayim) on a donkey. (Zechariah 9:9; 21:5) He would be sold for 30 pieces of silver. (Zechariah 11:12; 26:14-16) His betrayal price would be given for a potter's field. (Zechariah 11:13; 27:3,7-10) He would be betrayed by a friend. (Psalm 41:9; 13:18-21) Both Jew and Gentile would conspire against Him. (Psalm 2:1-2; Acts 4:27-28; 26:3; 27:1-2) He would be nailed to a tree. (Deuteronomy 21:22-23; Psalm 22:16; 19:18; 20:25) He would suffer for others. (Isaiah 53:6; 20:28) He would die for our sins. (Isaiah 53:5; 1 Corinthians 15:3; 1 2:24) He would be mocked. (Psalm 22:7-8; 27:39-43) He would die with the transgressors. (Isaiah 53: 12; Mark 15:27-28) He would make intercession for His murderers. (Isaiah 53:12; Luke 23:34) He would be smitten. (Micah 5:1; Isaiah 50:6; Lamentations 3:30; 26:67; 27:30) He would be spit upon. (Isaiah 50:6; 26:67, 27:30) He would be forsaken by G-d. (Psalm 22:1; 27:46) He would be given gall and vinegar to eat and drink. (Psalm 69:21; 27:34,48) He opened not His mouth when accused. (Isaiah 53:7; 26:63-64; 27:12-14) His garments would be parted. (Psalm 22:18; 27:35) Not one bone would be broken. (Psalm 34:20; 19:33,36) He would be pierced. (Zechariah 12:10; 19:34,37) He would be like a lamb going to the slaughter. (Isaiah 53:7; Acts 8:26-35) He is King of the Jews (and the world). (Psalm 2:6; 18:33,37; 19:19-22) He would be buried with the rich. (Isaiah 53:9; 27:57-60) He would die. (Isaiah 53:12; 27:50) His soul would not be left in hell. (Psalm 16:10; 49:15; 56:13; Acts 2:27,31; 13:33-35) He would rise from the dead. (Psalm 16:10; Luke 24:6,31,34; Acts 2:27-31; 13:35) Others would rise from the dead with Him. (Psalm 68:18; Ephesians 4:8; 27:52-53) He would rise the third day from the grave. (Jonah 1:17; 1 Corinthians 15:4; Luke 24:45-46; 12:40) He would ascend into Heaven. (Psalm 68:18; Acts 1:9; Luke 24:50-51) He would sit at the right hand of G-d. (Psalm 110:1; Hebrews 1:2-3; Ephesians 1:20-21; 1 3:22) He would usher in a New Covenant (Brit Hadashah). ( 31:31; Luke 22:20) He would be a sure foundation to all who believe. (Isaiah 28: 16; Romans 10:11; 1 2:4-6)For more plagio info

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anyone know what all of this is about? Did everyone recieve it? Heidi, mom to Jeffry (unknown) When God became ManIsaiah 720 BC, Psalms 1000 BC, Micah 620 BC......Twenty Prophecies fulfilled in His First ComingHow do you know it is true??? Buried inside the Ancient Hebrew writings (Old Testament) written hundreds and some over a thousand years BC is the foretelling of what would take place when God became man. This is how you know it is true. The prophecies were very specific and told exactly when and where God would come to earth. The New Testament (written in Greek after the death of Christ) confirms these truths. He would be born in Bethlehem (Beit Lechem). (Micah 5:2; 2:4-6; 7:42) The exact time of His crucifixion was known (483 years from the decree to build the temple, which was around 444 B.C.E.). ( 9:25; Nehemiah 2:1-8; 5:14) He would be born of a virgin. (Isaiah 7:14; 1:20-23; Galatians 4:4; Genesis 3:15) His name would be Jesus (Yeshua in Hebrew), which means "Savior" or "Salvation." The word Yeshua in Hebrew means "salvation." It is derived from another Hebrew word, Yashah, which means "to save, deliver, preserve, bring salvation, get victory." ( 1:21) He would be the Son of G-d and G-d would be His Father. (Psalm 89:26-27; 2 7:8,12-14; 1 Chronicles 22:7-10; Hebrews 1:1-2,5; Mark 14:36; 20:30-31) He would go to Egypt and return to the land of Israel.(Hosea 11:1; 2:13-15)) He would be preceded by a messenger (a type of Elijah [Eliyahu] known as (Yochanan) the Immerser [baptist]) who would prepare the way of the Lord. (Malachi 3:1; Luke 1:13,76; 11:7,10 He gave up the glory in Heaven for the poverty of earth. (Luke 9:58; 2 Corinthians 8:9) He would ride into Jerusalem (Yerushalayim) on a donkey. (Zechariah 9:9; 21:5) He would be sold for 30 pieces of silver. (Zechariah 11:12; 26:14-16) He would be nailed to a tree. (Deuteronomy 21:22-23; Psalm 22:16; 19:18; 20:25) He would die for our sins. (Isaiah 53:5; 1 Corinthians 15:3; 1 2:24) He would be spit upon. (Isaiah 50:6; 26:67, 27:30) He would be given gall and vinegar to eat and drink. (Psalm 69:21; 27:34,48) Not one bone would be broken. (Psalm 34:20; 19:33,36) He would be pierced. (Zechariah 12:10; 19:34,37) He is King of the Jews (and the world). (Psalm 2:6; 18:33,37; 19:19-22) His soul would not be left in hell. (Psalm 16:10; 49:15; 56:13; Acts 2:27,31; 13:33-35) He would rise from the dead. (Psalm 16:10; Luke 24:6,31,34; Acts 2:27-31; 13:35) He would rise the third day from the grave. (Jonah 1:17; 1 Corinthians 15:4; Luke 24:45-46; 12:40) Websites for your home studies....Rapture studyhttp://www.ldolphin.org/raptpromise.htmlA series of studies on the book of....end times, prophecies, etc.http://www.pbc.org/dp/stedman/daniel/index.htmlStudies on Revelation....http://www.pbc.org/dp/stedman/revelation/index.htmlOlivet Discourse......http://www.pbc.org/dp/stedman/olivet/index.htmlIsrael....birth pangshttp://www.ldolphin.org/odino.htmlhttp://www.pbc.org/http://www.ldolphin.org/http://www.levitt.com/http://www.direct.ca/trinity/king.htmlhttp://pbc.org/dp/stedman/adventure/0241.htmlhttp://www.prophecyinthenews.com/index.aspwww.blueletterbible.orghttp://www.ldolphin.org/kingdom/index.htmlhttp://www.ldolphin.org/URLres.shtmlGod does not ask that people believe in Him without evidence....He uses many forms of knowledge to demostrate who He is. One of these is prophecy. Thousands of years ago God spoke to the prophets of Israel to tell them He was coming to earth. He told them where and when and under what conditions and that He would suffer and die so that man could be saved. The fact that Jesus was a man is a historical fact. We know He lived, just as we know Nero and the Great lived. The Bible is divided into two parts...the Old Testament and the New. The Old Testament was written in Hebrew....the last book was written approximately four hundred BC. The New Testament was written in Greek from after Christ died primarily by eye witnesses. We know the Old Testament existed long before Christ due to the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls and the historical fact that the Jews built temples and taught from the scrolls. Following are just a few of the prophecies contained in the Old Testament that Christ ( the Messiah, the Savior) was coming. The entire Bible is the revelation of God, of Christ. Prophecy is the prediction of a future event. It is given by God to prove who He is. There are literally hundreds of prophecies in the Bible, dealing with the past that has proven correct but also future events yet to happen.Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. In Zecariah (spelling)..the prophet foretold that Zion's (Israel) King would come riding an ass. I find this one of the most interesting from several aspects. First, the King, would offer salvation, eternal life. Second, notice that He will be riding the colt of an ass. No King in history rides a donkey, it just doesn't happen. They always rode stallions. Also notice that it is the colt of an ass. A colt has never been broken, an unbroken horse will buck you off. Also notice that He will ride into Jerusalem. Now we know that Christ rode into Jersusalem on Palm Sunday before His execution. He was riding a colt of an ass. When He rode in many common people (but not the religious leaders) yelled Hosanna (this means save us). Zecariah was written hundreds of years before the event.Mic 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, [though] thou be little among the thousands of Judah, [yet] out of thee shall he come forth unto me [that is] to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth [have been] from of old, from everlasting. Micah is a very small book in the Old Testament. Notice in this prophecy several things...first it tells where Christ will be born....Bethlehem was a tiny city...it says the King will come from this town...it also says something very interesting..His goings forth have been from old, from everlasting...why, becasue Christ is God, He existed before the universe was created. If you look in the New Testament ph and had to travel to Bethlehem before He was born.'Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Isaiah was written about 720 BC. This prophecy spells out that a virgin would give birth to a son. The name Immanuel in Hebrew means "God Amoung You". The name Jesus is from Greek translation. In Hebrew, Jesus's name was Yeshua which meant "Jehovah saves". There is a reason God had to come into the world thru a virgin...not just as a miracle sign. Each man is born from the "seed" of another man..the blood of that man transmits the sin of his father....what we call original sin....it is in all of us...you don't have to teach a child to lie.Behold, my servant shall prosper, he shall be exalted and lifted up, and shall be very high. As many were astonished at him -- his appearance was so marred, beyond human semblance, and his form beyond that of the sons of men -- so shall he startle many nations; kings shall shut their mouths because of him; for that which has not been told them they shall see, and that which they have not heard they shall understand. {Isa 52:13-15 RSV}Again Isaiah...notice that God's servant, the Christ, is foretold. Notice it says He will be lifted up...as Chirst was lifted up on the Cross. Notice that He is foretold to be beaten to point that people are astonished and that His face was to be beaten until you couldn't tell who He was. Notice that, not the Jews, but the rest of the world will understand who He is.Who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or comeliness that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief; and as one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not. {Isa 53:1-3 RSV}Isaiah again...notice Christ was not a man people would think was beautiful or a King. It was foretold in 720 BC that He would be rejected...that He would see grief...that He would be despised.. Psa 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. The Psalms were written in about 1000 BC. This prediction says that God will not leave Christ's soul in Hell....or see corruption..rot. His body would not rot. Notice it says thine Holy One, the Savior. Now this also foretells something else...that the Savior would have to die...as He did......if you study carefully in the New Testament you will see that Christ "gave up His spirit". He was not killed as you and I think of being killed...He chose to die...if He had wished...He could still be hanging there today.Psa 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of , and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for [his] only [son], and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for [his] firstborn. These two prediction come from Psalms and Zechariah...notice that they foretell a number of things which had to happen....first His hands and feet had to pierced..they were when nailed to the cross...notice also that the Jews will someday (when He returns) see him and mourn for the one they pierced...this refers to the fact that Christ had a spear thrust into him on the cross to make sure He was dead. Remember all these writings are hundreds of years before Christ came.Zec 11:12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give [me] my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty [pieces] of silver. Zec 11:13 And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty [pieces] of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD. Back to Zechariah...this foretells Christ being sold out for thirty pieces of silver. If you look in the New Testament you will see that Judas sold him out to the Romans for exactly thirty pieces of silver and then the money was later thrown potter. Only God could foretell such a small detail of His betrayal hundreds of years before it happened.Websites for your home studies....Rapture and Returnhttp://www.ldolphin.org/kingdom/ch14.htmlhttp://www.ldolphin.org/kingdom/ch4.htmlhttp://www.ldolphin.org/Return.htmlhttp://www.ldolphin.org/raptpromise.htmlA series of studies on the book of....end times, prophecies, etc.http://www.pbc.org/dp/stedman/daniel/index.htmlStudies on Revelation.... http://www.pbc.org/dp/stedman/revelation/index.htmlGod's Calendarhttp://pbc.org/dp/stedman/leviticus/0520.htmlThe Jewish Wedding and the Bride of Christhttp://www.ariel.org/ff00113c.htmlOlivet Discourse......http://www.pbc.org/dp/stedman/olivet/index.htmlIsrael....birth pangshttp://www.ldolphin.org/odino.htmlNew World Orderhttp://www.ldolphin.org/kingdom/ch7.htmlGenesis studyhttp://www.pbc.org/dp/stedman/genesis/index.htmlTemple studies…http://www.ldolphin.org/ezektmp.htmlhttp://www.ldolphin.org/whytemp.htmlhttp://www.ldolphin.org/kingdom/ch9.htmlNew Bodieshttp://www.ldolphin.org/newbodies.htmlMisc. study siteshttp://www.pbc.org/http://www.ldolphin.org/http://www.geocities.com/his_emissary/http://www.levitt.com/http://www.direct.ca/trinity/king.htmlhttp://www.blueletterbible.org/index.htmlhttp://pbc.org/dp/stedman/adventure/0241.htmlhttp://www.prophecyinthenews.com/index.aspSeventy Prophecies fulfilled in His First ComingAncient Hebrew writings (Old Testament) written hundreds and some over a thousand years BC. This is how you know it is true. The prophecies were very specific and told exactly when and where God would come to earth. The New Testament (written in Greek after the death of Christ) confirms these truths.He would be a descendent of Abraham (Avraham). (Genesis 12:1-3; 18:18; 22:18; 1:1-2,17; Galatians 3:8,16) He would be from the tribe of Judah (Yehudah) . (Genesis 49:8-10; Hebrews 7:14; Revelation 5:5) He would be a descendent of . (2 7:4-5,12-13; 1 Chronicles 17:11-14; Psalm 132:11; Luke 1:32-33,67-69; Acts 2:29-30; 1:17; Romans 1:3) He would be born in Bethlehem (Beit Lechem). (Micah 5:2; 2:4-6; 7:42) He would be from Nazareth and be called a Nazarene. ( 2:23; Luke 1:26-27; 1:45; Judges 13:5-7,24) The exact time of His crucifixion was known (483 years from the decree to build the temple, which was around 444 B.C.E.). ( 9:25; Nehemiah 2:1-8; 5:14) He would be born of a virgin. (Isaiah 7:14; 1:20-23; Galatians 4:4; Genesis 3:15) His name would be Immanuel. Immanuel in Hebrew means "G-d with us." (Isaiah 7:14; 1:21-23) His name would be Jesus (Yeshua in Hebrew), which means "Savior" or "Salvation." The word Yeshua in Hebrew means "salvation." It is derived from another Hebrew word, Yashah, which means "to save, deliver, preserve, bring salvation, get victory." ( 1:21) His name would be the Messiah. The word Christ in English comes from the Greek word Christos, which means "The Anointed One." Christos in Greek is the word Mashiach in Hebrew, which also means "The Anointed One." The word Mashiach means "Messiah," who is Yeshua. ( 1:41) He would be the only begotten Son of G-d. (Psalm 2:2,6-7; 1:14; Acts 13:33; Hebrews 1:1-2,5) He would be the Son of G-d and G-d would be His Father. (Psalm 89:26-27; 2 7:8,12-14; 1 Chronicles 22:7-10; Hebrews 1:1-2,5; Mark 14:36; 20:30-31) He would be circumcised the eighth day according to the law of purification. (Luke 2:21-24; Leviticus 12:1-6) He would go to Egypt and return to the land of Israel.(Hosea 11:1; 2:13-15) Young babies would die in an attempt to kill Yeshua at His birth.( 31:15; 2:16-18) He would be preceded by a messenger (a type of Elijah [Eliyahu] known as (Yochanan) the Immerser [baptist]) who would prepare the way of the Lord. (Malachi 3:1; Luke 1:13,76; 11:7,10) The messenger, (Yochanan) the Immerser (Baptist), would be preaching in the wilderness. (Isaiah 40:3-5; Luke 1:13,80,3:2-6) He would be a prophet like Moses (Moshe). (Deuteronomy 18:15; 1:45; Acts 3:20-23) He would be anointed of the Holy Spirit (Ruach HaKodesh). (Isaiah 11:1-2; 42:1; 3:16) He would preach and teach in the temple (Beit HaMikdash). (Malachi 3:1; Luke 4:16; 26:55; 7:28; 8:1-2) He came specifically to the house of Israel and not to the Gentiles. ( 15:21-26) Yeshua would be rejected by His own people Israel (corporately). [Note: It should be pointed out that many, many individual Jews were believers in Messiah during the first century. This can be seen very clearly by carefully examining , Mark, Luke, , and the Book of Acts.(Psalm 69:8; 31:11; 88:8,18; Job 19:13; 1:11; 7:3,5)] Yeshua is the stone that the builders rejected.(Psalm 118:22; Isaiah 3:10-12; Romans 9:11) Yeshua would be received by the Gentiles (corporately). [Note: It should be pointed out that many Gentiles are not believers in Yeshua and many others are believers in name only and not true followers with their hearts. The believers in Messiah are commanded to follow G-d with all of their heart (Deuteronomy 6:4-9).] (Isaiah 11:10; 42:6; 49:6,22; 54:3; 60:3,5,11,16; 61:6,9; 62:2; 66:12,19; Malachi 1:11; Luke 2:30-32; Acts 28:28) He would speak in parables. (Psalm 78:2-4; 13:34-35) The ministry of Yeshua would be in Galilee. (Isaiah 9:1-2; 4:12-16,23) His ministry would be to heal the sick, set the captives free, and preach deliverance. This is known as the basar (gospel) in Hebrew. (Isaiah 61:1-2; Luke 4:16-21; 4:23; 9:34-35; Acts 2:22; 10:38) Yeshua was to be the shepherd of Israel because Israel had no shepherd. (Ezekiel 34:5-10; 1 Kings 22:17; Zechariah 10:2; Genesis 49:22,24; Psalm 23:1; 80:1; Isaiah 40:10-11; Ezekiel 34:23-24; 37:24; 10:11,14-15) His message would not be believed. (Isaiah 53:1; 12:37-38) The meek would praise Him. (Psalm 8:1-2; 21:15-16) Illegal merchandise trading would be done in the temple. (Psalm 69:9; 2:13-17; Isaiah 56:7; 21:12-13) He would be hated. (Psalm 69:4; 35:19; 109:2-3; 119:161; 15:24-25) He would be a reproach to the people. (Psalm 69:9; 89:50-51; Romans 15:3) He would not seek publicity. (Isaiah 42:1-2; 12:15-19; 9:30; 8:4) He can be trusted and would be compassionate. (Isaiah 42:3; 12:15,20-21) No evil words would proceed from His mouth. (Isaiah 53:9; Luke 23:41; 1 2:21-22; 2 Corinthians 5:21) His disciples would forsake Him. (Zechariah 13:7; 26:31-35,56) There was nothing physically beautiful in Him to be desired. (Isaiah 53:2; Psalm 22:6; Mark 6:1-3; Philippians 2:7) He gave up the glory in Heaven for the poverty of earth. (Luke 9:58; 2 Corinthians 8:9) He would publicly enter Jerusalem (Yerushalayim) before the time of His crucifixion. (Zechariah 9:9; 21:1-5) He would ride into Jerusalem (Yerushalayim) on a donkey. (Zechariah 9:9; 21:5) He would be sold for 30 pieces of silver. (Zechariah 11:12; 26:14-16) His betrayal price would be given for a potter's field. (Zechariah 11:13; 27:3,7-10) He would be betrayed by a friend. (Psalm 41:9; 13:18-21) Both Jew and Gentile would conspire against Him. (Psalm 2:1-2; Acts 4:27-28; 26:3; 27:1-2) He would be nailed to a tree. (Deuteronomy 21:22-23; Psalm 22:16; 19:18; 20:25) He would suffer for others. (Isaiah 53:6; 20:28) He would die for our sins. (Isaiah 53:5; 1 Corinthians 15:3; 1 2:24) He would be mocked. (Psalm 22:7-8; 27:39-43) He would die with the transgressors. (Isaiah 53: 12; Mark 15:27-28) He would make intercession for His murderers. (Isaiah 53:12; Luke 23:34) He would be smitten. (Micah 5:1; Isaiah 50:6; Lamentations 3:30; 26:67; 27:30) He would be spit upon. (Isaiah 50:6; 26:67, 27:30) He would be forsaken by G-d. (Psalm 22:1; 27:46) He would be given gall and vinegar to eat and drink. (Psalm 69:21; 27:34,48) He opened not His mouth when accused. (Isaiah 53:7; 26:63-64; 27:12-14) His garments would be parted. (Psalm 22:18; 27:35) Not one bone would be broken. (Psalm 34:20; 19:33,36) He would be pierced. (Zechariah 12:10; 19:34,37) He would be like a lamb going to the slaughter. (Isaiah 53:7; Acts 8:26-35) He is King of the Jews (and the world). (Psalm 2:6; 18:33,37; 19:19-22) He would be buried with the rich. (Isaiah 53:9; 27:57-60) He would die. (Isaiah 53:12; 27:50) His soul would not be left in hell. (Psalm 16:10; 49:15; 56:13; Acts 2:27,31; 13:33-35) He would rise from the dead. (Psalm 16:10; Luke 24:6,31,34; Acts 2:27-31; 13:35) Others would rise from the dead with Him. (Psalm 68:18; Ephesians 4:8; 27:52-53) He would rise the third day from the grave. (Jonah 1:17; 1 Corinthians 15:4; Luke 24:45-46; 12:40) He would ascend into Heaven. (Psalm 68:18; Acts 1:9; Luke 24:50-51) He would sit at the right hand of G-d. (Psalm 110:1; Hebrews 1:2-3; Ephesians 1:20-21; 1 3:22) He would usher in a New Covenant (Brit Hadashah). ( 31:31; Luke 22:20) He would be a sure foundation to all who believe. (Isaiah 28: 16; Romans 10:11; 1 2:4-6)For more plagio info

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--- In Plagiocephaly , " BRETT ZIMMERMAN " <zim34@m...>

wrote:

> anyone know what all of this is about? Did everyone recieve it?

Heidi, mom to Jeffry

Someone has way too much time on her hands! Dang how long did that

take to type! Took me two minutes to highlight it to delete it!

I banned her/him!

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

I am new to this group as well. I have e-mailed Taryn from this list.(met from lady on another list) Hi Taryn!!!

I was going to say we are using the CT Atlanta office. They have been great there (very nice group of people). Our daughter is going for her casting tomorrow. We are not looking forward to this part but it gets us this much closer to a rounder head. , they are saying will take about 3.5 to 4.5 months. I just hope we can get it off before summer. As you know it is HOT here.

By the way my name is Lou and our daughter is . turned 11 months yesterday. I hope this helps and looking forward to getting to know everyone else. Lou

(unknown)

hi! im new to this group.. just wanted to know if there isanybody in this grp who has been to CT atlanta & what wastheir experiences there.. my daughter has brachycephaly & was just wondering if we do decide to band her howlong would the treatment take.. thanks!For more plagio info

[Guest guest]

Hi Lou,

Welcome to the group! Please let us know how the casting goes and

when 's band is in.

--- In Plagiocephaly , " Lou Callaway " <loucal@m...>

wrote:

> Hi there,

> I am new to this group as well. I have e-mailed Taryn from this

list.(met from lady on another list) Hi Taryn!!!

> I was going to say we are using the CT Atlanta office. They have

been great there (very nice group of people). Our daughter is

going for her casting tomorrow. We are not looking forward to this

part but it gets us this much closer to a rounder head. , they

are saying will take about 3.5 to 4.5 months. I just hope we can get

it off before summer. As you know it is HOT here.

> By the way my name is Lou and our daughter is . turned

11 months yesterday. I hope this helps and looking forward to getting

to know everyone else. Lou

> (unknown)

>

>

> hi! im new to this group.. just wanted to know if there is

> anybody in this grp who has been to CT atlanta & what was

> their experiences there.. my daughter has brachycephaly

> & was just wondering if we do decide to band her how

> long would the treatment take.. thanks!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Lou!!!! I am SO glad you decided to join the group and very happy

that Gigi asked me to contact you. Good luck with 's casting. It

will be over before you know it. Happy 11 months to !!

Taryn and

Indiana

At 10:46 PM 1/21/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi there,

>I am new to this group as well. I have e-mailed Taryn from this list.(met

>from lady on another list) Hi Taryn!!!

>I was going to say we are using the CT Atlanta office. They have been

>great there (very nice group of people). Our daughter is going for

>her casting tomorrow. We are not looking forward to this part but it gets

>us this much closer to a rounder head. , they are saying will take

>about 3.5 to 4.5 months. I just hope we can get it off before summer. As

>you know it is HOT here.

>By the way my name is Lou and our daughter is . turned 11

>months yesterday. I hope this helps and looking forward to getting to know

>everyone else. Lou

[Guest guest]

>> No, you don't need supplements if you cover your needs with the food you eat,

No offense intended, but I consider this to be dangerous advice. Walford discusses supplementation at length in his books. And the general conclusion is that the likelihood of a true practitioner of CR getting the ON without supplementation is small.

Walford gives excellent advice on supplementation. I recommend following it. And reading his lengthy treatment of the subject to understand what an inexact science it is.

[Guest guest]

No offense taken.

I am currently supplementing calcium because I was not getting enough based on a recent DWIDP review. I will not post the very long list of supplements I have stopped taking over the years because of my not being a critical consumer with supplement industry that is overly enthusiastic about the benefits available. Walford offers good advice about evaluating such claims.

I guess I'm not a true follower because I'm able to cover (most of) my nutrient needs with real food. It helps that I am very active which gives me more calories to work with (also a no-no for the true believers). Finally I take a very moderate approach to this so I am not very restricted, if at all.

By all means use supplements as needed, but don't assume that they are exactly equivalent to the natural vitamins, or that more is automatically better. Read, study, measure ... adjust.

JR

-----Original Message-----From: Hipp [mailto:@...]Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [ ] (unknown)

>> No, you don't need supplements if you cover your needs with the food you eat,

No offense intended, but I consider this to be dangerous advice. Walford discusses supplementation at length in his books. And the general conclusion is that the likelihood of a true practitioner of CR getting the ON without supplementation is small.

Walford gives excellent advice on supplementation. I recommend following it. And reading his lengthy treatment of the subject to understand what an inexact science it is.

[Guest guest]

,

Well at least you are getting closer to getting answers I know this must be very stressful, but (and I know this is easier said than done), try not to worry yourself until you really have a concrete reason too, the what if game can drive you nuts. Good luck with the neuro appt. and keep us posted on little Lorenzo!

' Mom

[Guest guest]

I think you should go to another doctor and have him evaluate you for all

the rx's you are on.

Then go to a QUALIFIED nagturopath to ask about the alt meds you are

considering, not a sales clerk at GNC etc.

Angel

On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, jujie007 <Jujie007@...> wrote:

> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 01:41:36 -0000

> From: " jujie007 <Jujie007@...> " <Jujie007@...>

> Reply-

>

> Subject: [] (unknown)

>

> Janet,

> I take Neurontin, Elavil, Zoloft, Nystatin, Clarinex and some

> other meds too. I would think it would be okay to take olive leaf

> extract, caprylic acid, flaxseed with your medications. You can

> check out books at the library on supplements and herbs if you have

> a question about contraindications. The herbs can sometimes have

> effects with prescription meds. I do not really know too much about

> the lemon helping, however, I do know that apple cider vinegar can

> help with candida(yeast). What is the charcoal stuff you were

> talking about? I am not familiar with that. I do think the ground

> flaxseed is great. I am glad you are doing that. I have been

> eating meatand chicken without antibiotics and hormones. Free-range

> meat is the best if you can afford it. Money is tight for me, but I

> try to get the best thing I can. Oh drink good water, either

> filtered or I started to drink spring water that is on the alkaline

> side( suppose to be better for health conditions). I am on several

> vulvodynia and interstitial cystitis . Two of the

> Interstitial Cystitis groups focus on diet and supplements etc.-

> healing naturally. They talk alot about diet and alkalinizing- many

> theories, however I have read alot about fungus thriving in an

> acidic environment(your body). I try to research alot and take what

> I feel comfortable with and go from there. I would also recommend a

> good probiotic to replace the good bacteria in your gut. You may

> already know about this. I do believe that if our gut isn't healthy,

> we will have health problems and definately food sensitivities. I

> don't know if the natural antifungal will hurt you, but if you take

> flaxseed with no problems, you probably could tolerate some of

> them. It's just different for each of us. I can not tolerate Vit C

> and I bought a B Complex 50mg (brand Soloray) and took one tablet

> and had horrible burning when I voided. Let me know what symptoms

> you are having. I hope I responded to everything in your email.

> Have a good night.

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Also, Val? Everytime I send you something now, your adress comes up incorrect. Can you send me it again? I dont know what happened but that is why you havent heard from me alot lately.

Thanks..Janet

[Guest guest]

This is way tooo cute. I am printing it out. Thanks, Heidi, mom to Jeffry, MN (unknown) Ode to a HelmetHelmet, helmet on my head,Making it round when it wants to be flat instead.If I ever lost you in trouble I would be,With a price tag ranging from $300-$3,000 can you blame me?Kid friendly you look with stickers and paint,Smelling like flowers is something you ain't."Why are you there?" I've heard said,To make this baby have a rounder head!A helmet I am A helmet I will beSitting on the heads of the cutest babiesYou ever did see!A.J. U of M helmetFor more plagio info

[Guest guest]

Thank you

for this…how cute! I wish I was

that creative!

& JD (DOCband since 2/26)

TX

-----Original

Message-----

From: momtoajdg

<TGrabowski@...> [mailto:TGrabowski@...]

Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003

11:15 AM

Plagiocephaly

Subject: (unknown)

Ode to a Helmet

Helmet, helmet on my head,

Making it round when it wants to be flat instead.

If I ever lost you in trouble I would be,

With a price tag ranging from $300-$3,000 can you blame me?

Kid friendly you look with stickers and paint,

Smelling like flowers is something you ain't.

" Why are you there? " I've heard said,

To make this baby have a rounder head!

A helmet I am

A helmet I will be

Sitting on the heads of the cutest babies

You ever did see!

A.J. U of M helmet

For more plagio info